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Quote from: Daniel91 on June 24, 2020, 01:10:26 AM

Quote from: verita1 on June 24, 2020, 12:06:13 AM

It is unfortunate that these great tennis figures have tested positive at Covid19. The Adria Tour tournament was born with the idea of raising money for those most affected by the coronavirus. The Coronavirus is not a joke, it is a sad reality, they did not follow the protocols, beginning with social distancing.

The coronavirus is treacherous, sometimes people are positive and have no symptoms and we trust that everything is fine and we make the mistakes we are seeing.

I agree that Djokovic, Ivanisevic, Cilic and others had great idea behind the Adria tour, they wanted to help others but they didn’t understand how serious is situation with coronavirus and didn't protect players and fans enough.
Now, after everything what happened in the Adria tournament who knows what will happen with other tennis tournaments and tennis season this year.

Right, specially coming from Djokovic himself, no doubt that it was a really great idea on coming up with this Adria tour as tennis fans are really looking for some action amidst the pandemic. But they didn't go according to the protocols of the new normal, they still played as if there's no Covid-19 pandemic that killed thousands of people. And it seems that they didn't take it seriously, and now the aftermath of the said tournaments that will have a ripple effect on the next tennis tournaments.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on June 24, 2020, 01:10:26 AM

Quote from: verita1 on June 24, 2020, 12:06:13 AM

It is unfortunate that these great tennis figures have tested positive at Covid19. The Adria Tour tournament was born with the idea of raising money for those most affected by the coronavirus. The Coronavirus is not a joke, it is a sad reality, they did not follow the protocols, beginning with social distancing.

The coronavirus is treacherous, sometimes people are positive and have no symptoms and we trust that everything is fine and we make the mistakes we are seeing.

I agree that Djokovic, Ivanisevic, Cilic and others had great idea behind the Adria tour, they wanted to help others but they didn’t understand how serious is situation with coronavirus and didn't protect players and fans enough.
Now, after everything what happened in the Adria tournament who knows what will happen with other tennis tournaments and tennis season this year.

idea was good, but they missed with their behaviour around the tour
if you are a tennis star (or a whatever star you may be), you have to be aware that people are following your behaviour, and they are influenced by you, so you have to be responsible, and they were not responsible on the tour

so basically, good idea, but implementation was bad enough to have a bunch of consequences, hopefully everyone will be fine, but we do not know how many people beside tennis stars got infected

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Quote from: verita1 on June 24, 2020, 12:06:13 AM

It is unfortunate that these great tennis figures have tested positive at Covid19. The Adria Tour tournament was born with the idea of raising money for those most affected by the coronavirus. The Coronavirus is not a joke, it is a sad reality, they did not follow the protocols, beginning with social distancing.

The coronavirus is treacherous, sometimes people are positive and have no symptoms and we trust that everything is fine and we make the mistakes we are seeing.

I agree that Djokovic, Ivanisevic, Cilic and others had great idea behind the Adria tour, they wanted to help others but they didn’t understand how serious is situation with coronavirus and didn't protect players and fans enough.
Now, after everything what happened in the Adria tournament who knows what will happen with other tennis tournaments and tennis season this year.

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It is unfortunate that these great tennis figures have tested positive at Covid19. The Adria Tour tournament was born with the idea of raising money for those most affected by the coronavirus. The Coronavirus is not a joke, it is a sad reality, they did not follow the protocols, beginning with social distancing.

The coronavirus is treacherous, sometimes people are positive and have no symptoms and we trust that everything is fine and we make the mistakes we are seeing.

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Yes I also believe that Djokovic had good intentions in mind when organising this tournament but it seems that the right precautions were taken when playing. Anyway people just need to take a look at what has happened in other sports where players have tested positive, I really think that there is no way at stopping this virus even if players do the right thing. Now I'm not saying what Djokovic was a good thing but its happening everywhere around the world no matter what we all do.

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Quote from: Trofo on June 23, 2020, 03:10:54 PM

Quote from: babygun on June 23, 2020, 12:07:57 PM

Quote from: Daniel91 on June 23, 2020, 07:17:55 AM

Djokovic 's first statement : I'm terribly sorry, I had the best intentions.

After Dimitrov tested positive, chances were high that also Djokovic would test positive.
He may have had the best intentions, but how stupid can you be? He acted as corona didn't existed and this is the sad result.
I wasn't a fan of Djokovic and after this, I will never become it. But also the other players who participated have acted like a fool (Dimitrov, Troicki, Zverev,...)

I really believe Djokovic had the best intentions in mind when he started this project, after all he has put a lot of his own money to start it. There was a lot of mistakes in organization but that is not all his fault. Same fault lies with venues and local tennis associations. They are the ones that organized all the details locally.

If we are pointing fingers to tennis players, then Dimitrov is the one with biggest share of guilt in this situation. He came from USA, one of the countries with biggest corona problem, and never got tested. He was even asked to take a test few times and he declined, 2 times in Zadar and probably even in Serbia. He was feeling out of breath for few days while he continued to play and party, WTF. Of course, that could all be lies or headlines to make more money but I believe at least some of the mentioned stuff is true.

I do believe that Djokovic had the best intentions, but than organise everything in a safe way. Don't organise basketgames or parties without any social distancing.
Dimitrov is indeed the main person to blame, he didn't want to take the test and continued playing and participating at activities when feeling sick...

What I don't get is that none of the players really cared about social distancing and stuff. What were they thinking?

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Quote from: Trofo on June 23, 2020, 03:10:54 PM

Quote from: babygun on June 23, 2020, 12:07:57 PM

Quote from: Daniel91 on June 23, 2020, 07:17:55 AM

Djokovic 's first statement : I'm terribly sorry, I had the best intentions.

After Dimitrov tested positive, chances were high that also Djokovic would test positive.
He may have had the best intentions, but how stupid can you be? He acted as corona didn't existed and this is the sad result.
I wasn't a fan of Djokovic and after this, I will never become it. But also the other players who participated have acted like a fool (Dimitrov, Troicki, Zverev,...)

I really believe Djokovic had the best intentions in mind when he started this project, after he has put a lot of his own money to start it. There was a lot of mistakes in organization but that is not all his fault. Same fault lies with venues and local tennis associations. They are the ones that organized all the details locally.

If we are pointing fingers to tennis players, then Dimitrov is the one with biggest share of guilt in this situation. He came from USA, one of the countries with biggest corona problem, and never got tested. He was even asked to take a test few times and he declined, 2 times in Zadar and probably even in Serbia. He was feeling out of breath for few days while he continued to play and party, WTF. Of course, that could all be lies or headlines to make more money but I believe at least some of the mentioned stuff is true.

I guess most of the people have same opinion as you. Djokovic in the last two months had few very questionable ^{I don't want to say "stupid" although it sounds that way} attitudes how to protect yourself from virus, he gave very brave and weird statement about COVID vaccine ... he simply irritated the public with some of his stupid actions
Now even if he has the best intention with this tour in Zadar, his previous outbursts complicate everything.

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Quote from: Naida_BR on June 23, 2020, 11:46:05 AM

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Quote from: Trofo on June 23, 2020, 09:24:54 AM

I really don't understand the problem with organizing tennis matches. Yes, some concessions have to be made but it is sport without contact and you already have a great start there. There is only two players on the field (or 4 in doubles) as opposed to the football where there is 22 players. Then you have tennis crowds which are very well behaved as opposed to the football, you could sell the tickets for every 3rd seat in every other row without any problem. That still a lot of people in biggest arenas.

Absolutely I agree. Tennis matches are the ones with the lowest audience factor. It is also one of the sports competitions where the distance between individuals is the highest among sports branches. The distance between employees in the field is always available for protection.

In this case, it is difficult to understand the cancellation of tennis tournaments while playing football matches.

In this process, the cancellation of "team sports" played only in closed environments can be considered reasonable. Indoor sports such as basketball and volleyball can pose a risk for the virus.

It is just a way to show that they try to keep the health measures at their max.
Even if the distances are kept in tennis matches they governments need to show that when an infection happens and it is dangerous for the public health then the tournaments needs to shut down.

I understand that every federation and organization takes precautions. However, life continues and will continue to do so. Let's assume that this pandemic will come in waves 2 or 3 in the coming period. What, in a few years, will not there be a tennis competition? We have to get used to the "new normal" concept. And I think we will have to live a little longer in these new normal conditions.

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Quote from: babygun on June 23, 2020, 12:07:57 PM

Quote from: Daniel91 on June 23, 2020, 07:17:55 AM

Djokovic 's first statement : I'm terribly sorry, I had the best intentions.

After Dimitrov tested positive, chances were high that also Djokovic would test positive.
He may have had the best intentions, but how stupid can you be? He acted as corona didn't existed and this is the sad result.
I wasn't a fan of Djokovic and after this, I will never become it. But also the other players who participated have acted like a fool (Dimitrov, Troicki, Zverev,...)

I really believe Djokovic had the best intentions in mind when he started this project, after all he has put a lot of his own money to start it. There was a lot of mistakes in organization but that is not all his fault. Same fault lies with venues and local tennis associations. They are the ones that organized all the details locally.

If we are pointing fingers to tennis players, then Dimitrov is the one with biggest share of guilt in this situation. He came from USA, one of the countries with biggest corona problem, and never got tested. He was even asked to take a test few times and he declined, 2 times in Zadar and probably even in Serbia. He was feeling out of breath for few days while he continued to play and party, WTF. Of course, that could all be lies or headlines to make more money but I believe at least some of the mentioned stuff is true.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on June 23, 2020, 07:17:55 AM

Breaking news!
Djokovic and his wife have coronavirus but they don't have symptoms at the moment.
Their children don't have coronavirus.
More news to follow.
Source : https://www.index.hr/mobile/clanak.aspx?category=vijesti&id=2192272

Djokovic 's first statement : I'm terribly sorry, I had the best intentions.

After Dimitrov tested positive, chances were high that also Djokovic would test positive.
He may have had the best intentions, but how stupid can you be? He acted as corona didn't existed and this is the sad result.
I wasn't a fan of Djokovic and after this, I will never become it. But also the other players who participated have acted like a fool (Dimitrov, Troicki, Zverev,...)

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Quote from: vycl87 on June 23, 2020, 09:52:26 AM

Quote from: Trofo on June 23, 2020, 09:24:54 AM

I really don't understand the problem with organizing tennis matches. Yes, some concessions have to be made but it is sport without contact and you already have a great start there. There is only two players on the field (or 4 in doubles) as opposed to the football where there is 22 players. Then you have tennis crowds which are very well behaved as opposed to the football, you could sell the tickets for every 3rd seat in every other row without any problem. That still a lot of people in biggest arenas.

Absolutely I agree. Tennis matches are the ones with the lowest audience factor. It is also one of the sports competitions where the distance between individuals is the highest among sports branches. The distance between employees in the field is always available for protection.

In this case, it is difficult to understand the cancellation of tennis tournaments while playing football matches.

In this process, the cancellation of "team sports" played only in closed environments can be considered reasonable. Indoor sports such as basketball and volleyball can pose a risk for the virus.

It is just a way to show that they try to keep the health measures at their max.
Even if the distances are kept in tennis matches they governments need to show that when an infection happens and it is dangerous for the public health then the tournaments needs to shut down.

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Quote from: Trofo on June 23, 2020, 09:24:54 AM

I really don't understand the problem with organizing tennis matches. Yes, some concessions have to be made but it is sport without contact and you already have a great start there. There is only two players on the field (or 4 in doubles) as opposed to the football where there is 22 players. Then you have tennis crowds which are very well behaved as opposed to the football, you could sell the tickets for every 3rd seat in every other row without any problem. That still a lot of people in biggest arenas.

Absolutely I agree. Tennis matches are the ones with the lowest audience factor. It is also one of the sports competitions where the distance between individuals is the highest among sports branches. The distance between employees in the field is always available for protection.

In this case, it is difficult to understand the cancellation of tennis tournaments while playing football matches.

In this process, the cancellation of "team sports" played only in closed environments can be considered reasonable. Indoor sports such as basketball and volleyball can pose a risk for the virus.

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Quote from: tyKiwanuka on June 23, 2020, 07:12:22 AM

Yep, the Adria Cup was just poorly managed Corona-wise. All those spectators (wonder how many of them tested positive afterwards) and then the footage from the party, dear lord. US Open should have better hygiene concept, few player staff and there will be no spectators. I mean, if the soccer leagues can get it done with quite some travelling, I see no reason, why the ITF would fail with all players/staff being in one place and basically not allowed to go anywhere else than hotel/venue.

I really don't understand the problem with organizing tennis matches. Yes, some concessions have to be made but it is sport without contact and you already have a great start there. There is only two players on the field (or 4 in doubles) as opposed to the football where there is 22 players. Then you have tennis crowds which are very well behaved as opposed to the football, you could sell the tickets for every 3rd seat in every other row without any problem. That still a lot of people in biggest arenas.

Only actual problem is traveling between tournaments but that could be handled with tours consisting of several tournaments in big tennis countries like USA, Australia, England, France and then 2 week break before next tour. Another problem is probably money, all that tournaments get money mainly from tickets and parties in these times there should be bigger cut for them from television rights and commercials (both on air and around the court).

If ATP/WTA doesn't manage to get this sport sorted in Corona time it is just their fault. This Adria tour was a perfect example that it is better to sort it out at higher instances than leave players to be players and do what they like.

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Breaking news!
Djokovic and his wife have coronavirus but they don't have symptoms at the moment.
Their children don't have coronavirus.
More news to follow.
Source : https://www.index.hr/mobile/clanak.aspx?category=vijesti&id=2192272

Djokovic 's first statement : I'm terribly sorry, I had the best intentions.

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Quote from: Kemarit on June 22, 2020, 09:17:50 PM

I think the ITF really did a good job initially. But as we have seen in this tournament wherein Djokovic organized, it seems that they literally not take any precautions, pre, intra and post tournament. They party they didn't follow the protocol of social distancing and stuff t hat's why Djokovic is taking the flank now.

Yep, the Adria Cup was just poorly managed Corona-wise. All those spectators (wonder how many of them tested positive afterwards) and then the footage from the party, dear lord. US Open should have better hygiene concept, few player staff and there will be no spectators. I mean, if the soccer leagues can get it done with quite some travelling, I see no reason, why the ITF would fail with all players/staff being in one place and basically not allowed to go anywhere else than hotel/venue.

Funnily Djokovic was among the players, who raised their concern about US Open and then he organized this Adria Cup so poorly Roll Eyes

And he tested postive now as well.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on June 23, 2020, 01:09:35 AM

Latest news
Serbian tennis player Troicki also have coronavirus.
https://www.index.hr/mobile/clanak.aspx?category=sport&id=2192362

I heard that Dimitrov didn't feel well already a few days before event, felt tired etc. but didn't want to pass corona test.
I simple can't believe this.

I can't understand that people just can ignore their responsibilty. It was not only about him but other people present there. And the consequences will not only be for that tournament in Croatia but also other upcoming tennis tournaments around the world. This just shows that everything is up to us, some people obviously don't have enough selfdiscipline and responsibilty and that might lead again to fact that matches will be cancelled or held without audience.

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Quote from: Trofo on June 22, 2020, 02:09:01 AM

Quote from: Jating on June 21, 2020, 06:02:03 PM

I can't blame Dimitrov though, maybe he as asymptomatic that's why he did play in the tournament (not sure though if they have pre-testing). But definitely, this is not the news that we wanted to hear.

I am not sure he was totally asymptomatic, after all he cancelled his match on the first day of tournament in Croatia. The problem is that he was in contact with a lot of people. There was even some events organized for kids to spend time with him and some other players. Our press has smelled a good selling story and now they will be putting more news every few hours. Latest news is that 3 more players are positive including Borna Coric and that Djokovic skipped testing and went back to Beograd.

Maybe he already felt something already, but his body didn't react, and as @Daniel91 has said, he doesn't want to skip this tournament, but very bad decision on his side.

Quote from: Trofo on June 22, 2020, 02:09:01 AM

This will be another hit for the tennis going into the future. I am curious when will somebody realize that tennis matches aren't problematic to spreading the virus. The problems is in the crowds and all the parties done around tournaments as well as a lot of travelling.

Prior to this, tennis has started slowly, with new formats and players involving themselves to help financially in this pandemic. But with the news, it is really a set back for the sports, they really need to tighten up specially playing the games with fans and of course, more testing.

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Latest news
Serbian tennis player Troicki also have coronavirus.
https://www.index.hr/mobile/clanak.aspx?category=sport&id=2192362

I heard that Dimitrov didn't feel well already a few days before event, felt tired etc. but didn't want to pass corona test.
I simple can't believe this.

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Quote from: vella85 on June 22, 2020, 06:55:15 PM

This news is no good for tennis and tournaments moving forward. I do think that ITF has done a great job at holding off playing the game but maybe they started too soon like we have seen with other sports. The problem is that the sports leagues around the world couldn't hold off any longer but now with have an out break in covid-19 cases which now might put the US Open on hold and maybe pushed back. Lets just hope that the players have a speedy recovery and that no more players test positive.

I think the ITF really did a good job initially. But as we have seen in this tournament wherein Djokovic organized, it seems that they literally not take any precautions, pre, intra and post tournament. They party they didn't follow the protocol of social distancing and stuff t hat's why Djokovic is taking the flank now.

And then he suddenly disappear, went as farther as he can to stay away. I don't want to sound negative but he really blow everything out of proportion and didn't handle this tournament as it should be, specially with him being the top tennis player. For all we know, he could be very well positive already.

And then the US Open this July, probably it will be reschedule as most tennis players from this tournament have been tested positive already.

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This news is no good for tennis and tournaments moving forward. I do think that ITF has done a great job at holding off playing the game but maybe they started too soon like we have seen with other sports. The problem is that the sports leagues around the world couldn't hold off any longer but now with have an out break in covid-19 cases which now might put the US Open on hold and maybe pushed back. Lets just hope that the players have a speedy recovery and that no more players test positive.

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