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Quote from: absy on March 04, 2020, 10:33:25 PM

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Next in the calendar is the 2020 BNP Paribas Open, March 12 – 22, another Masters 1000 tournament.

Thiem is the defending champion, defeating Federer last year. So in the absence of Roger, he is rank 3, behind Djokovic and Nadal. Most of the top rank players entered this tournament so it will be interesting who will win tournament. I haven't check the odds though, but it looks like Djokovic, with the strength of his recent performance will be the favorite.

For sure, Novak Djokovic, Rafael Nadal and the defending champion will be the favourite for this year.

And then Daniil Medvedev, Stefanos Tsitsipas and Alexander Zverev. Hard to predict this early though, we might need to see their 1st and 2nd round performances before making any bets.

I think Thiem is more dangerous for Nadal than Djokovic at the moment , no offence to Djoker . I still would like to see Nadal take the trophy home .
Also you have mentioned March 12th as the starting date of the tournament but I think its March 9 .

@absy Thiem has lots of potential in him but he needs to perform consistently, and with Djokovic and Nadal also participating in this tournament it’ll be very difficult for him to win it without producing a tough fight which we all know he’s capable of producing. While I like Nadal a lot I don’t feel he’ll win it easily as his injuries have taken a toll on his body, but nevertheless i would like to see Nadal vs Thiem in the finals as both will not give up till the very end and it’ll make the match very interesting to watch.

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Quote from: absy on March 04, 2020, 10:33:25 PM

Also you have mentioned March 12th as the starting date of the tournament but I think its March 9 .

Main draws for Indian Wells and Miami always only start middle of the week for both tournaments. They are little Grand Slams and are the only tournaments that run for two weeks apart from the Grand Slams, but there is not enough matches to play for two full weeks. Both have a field of 96, so not as many as GS. and the top/seeded players have byes. Qualifying does start at March 9th and is also televised iirc.

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Quote from: Kemarit on March 04, 2020, 06:34:11 AM

Next in the calendar is the 2020 BNP Paribas Open, March 12 – 22, another Masters 1000 tournament.

Thiem is the defending champion, defeating Federer last year. So in the absence of Roger, he is rank 3, behind Djokovic and Nadal. Most of the top rank players entered this tournament so it will be interesting who will win tournament. I haven't check the odds though, but it looks like Djokovic, with the strength of his recent performance will be the favorite.

For sure, Novak Djokovic, Rafael Nadal and the defending champion will be the favourite for this year.

And then Daniil Medvedev, Stefanos Tsitsipas and Alexander Zverev. Hard to predict this early though, we might need to see their 1st and 2nd round performances before making any bets.

I think Thiem is more dangerous for Nadal than Djokovic at the moment , no offence to Djoker . I still would like to see Nadal take the trophy home .
Also you have mentioned March 12th as the starting date of the tournament but I think its March 9 .

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Quote from: Kemarit on March 04, 2020, 06:34:11 AM

Next in the calendar is the 2020 BNP Paribas Open, March 12 – 22, another Masters 1000 tournament.

Thiem is the defending champion, defeating Federer last year. So in the absence of Roger, he is rank 3, behind Djokovic and Nadal. Most of the top rank players entered this tournament so it will be interesting who will win tournament. I haven't check the odds though, but it looks like Djokovic, with the strength of his recent performance will be the favorite.

For sure, Novak Djokovic, Rafael Nadal and the defending champion will be the favourite for this year.

And then Daniil Medvedev, Stefanos Tsitsipas and Alexander Zverev. Hard to predict this early though, we might need to see their 1st and 2nd round performances before making any bets.

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Next in the calendar is the 2020 BNP Paribas Open, March 12 – 22, another Masters 1000 tournament.

Thiem is the defending champion, defeating Federer last year. So in the absence of Roger, he is rank 3, behind Djokovic and Nadal. Most of the top rank players entered this tournament so it will be interesting who will win tournament. I haven't check the odds though, but it looks like Djokovic, with the strength of his recent performance will be the favorite.

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^^ The closest in Medvedev at #4. He just need to be consistent but recently he suffered some unusual defeat so that's a big question mark again. Even his coach is not impressed specially last tournament.

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Daniil Medvedev's coach wasn't impressed with the Russian's attitude against Jannik Sinner at the Open 13. Though the Russian beat the next gen star, he lost the first set before making a comeback. When I see Daniil with that kind of attitude, that energy during the first set, crying over all the lost points, it annoys me,” Cervara told L'Equipe.

https://www.tennisworldusa.org/tennis/news/Tennis_Interviews/84418/gilles-cervara-unimpressed-with-daniil-medvedevs-on-court-behaviour/

So it will take some time before we can see someone becoming #3 even if Roger Federer is sideline by injuries.

Yeah its strange how Medvedev has dropped off after a very good last half of last year where he was winning tournaments and even challenging for grand slams. But he has started the year off in poor form but hopefully he can turn it around soon. This could be the year for Thiem as he has started the year off well and like the last two years I think he can once again challenge for the French Open.

Yeah, Daniil Medvedev case is really odd, I mean he was on top and celebrated to be the next big star in tennis and lead the young generations to challenge the big 3, but for strange reason he is performing way below, his form is very poor, what gives?

I still remember Osaka in 2018, damn she was literally hot, takes the womens top seed, and then the start of 2019 after she change coach, everything went on a downward spiral.

Osaka's case is different though, it was a change in coach as you have said that may have affected her performance in 2019 and was never the same after that.

As for Medvedev, it's really more of mental thingy for him, his coach is still with him, but seems to be the problem is his mindset and that he can't overpowered it resulting in early exit and not even reaching quarter finals compare to last year wherein his name was always into the discussions. Maybe he got burn out or something, and to overcome it, he needs more focus and a win even on a minor tournament to boost his confidence again.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on February 27, 2020, 07:53:45 PM

^^ The closest in Medvedev at #4. He just need to be consistent but recently he suffered some unusual defeat so that's a big question mark again. Even his coach is not impressed specially last tournament.

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Daniil Medvedev's coach wasn't impressed with the Russian's attitude against Jannik Sinner at the Open 13. Though the Russian beat the next gen star, he lost the first set before making a comeback. When I see Daniil with that kind of attitude, that energy during the first set, crying over all the lost points, it annoys me,” Cervara told L'Equipe.

https://www.tennisworldusa.org/tennis/news/Tennis_Interviews/84418/gilles-cervara-unimpressed-with-daniil-medvedevs-on-court-behaviour/

So it will take some time before we can see someone becoming #3 even if Roger Federer is sideline by injuries.

Yeah its strange how Medvedev has dropped off after a very good last half of last year where he was winning tournaments and even challenging for grand slams. But he has started the year off in poor form but hopefully he can turn it around soon. This could be the year for Thiem as he has started the year off well and like the last two years I think he can once again challenge for the French Open.

Yeah, Daniil Medvedev case is really odd, I mean he was on top and celebrated to be the next big star in tennis and lead the young generations to challenge the big 3, but for strange reason he is performing way below, his form is very poor, what gives?

I still remember Osaka in 2018, damn she was literally hot, takes the womens top seed, and then the start of 2019 after she change coach, everything went on a downward spiral.

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Quote from: Strongkored on March 02, 2020, 07:16:02 PM

For 3 decades they have mastered almost all tennis tournaments, maybe after this it will be difficult to find players like those who have high efforts in their tennis careers.
Unlike the women's section, Serena has started to decline and has now been replaced by young players and there are not yet young players to dominate. The last 2-3 years the grand slam title was won by young players whose ages are between 18-25 years old, so they are very young.

As some tennis posters said before, women's tennis is very unpredictable.

As for the mens, it looks like 10 years is not enough for them to reign, lol, although Federer is injured we haven't seen anyone yet, and even if we have names, they're no match for the tenacity of the 3. So it's really hard to find any replacements as of yet.

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For 3 decades they have mastered almost all tennis tournaments, maybe after this it will be difficult to find players like those who have high efforts in their tennis careers.
Unlike the women's section, Serena has started to decline and has now been replaced by young players and there are not yet young players to dominate. The last 2-3 years the grand slam title was won by young players whose ages are between 18-25 years old, so they are very young.

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Today I have serious shock becasue as I was watching semi final between Djokovic and Monfils its going straight farward for Monfils as he won first set by 6 - 2 and in second he was leading by 3 - 2 but as I return home match was already ends but score was very different as in favour of Djokovic 2 - 6, 7 - 6 and 6 -1 its really shocking Monfils is good player but in last few matches he cannot handle easily.

@Indymoney I’m not at all surprised that Djokovic won, because he had beaten Monfils 16 times prior to this match and has not lost a single game against Monfils till date. Also if you knew Djokovic well then you would have known that he doesn’t give up till the end, and I’ll give some credit to Monfils too as he really gave it all but in the end he was unable to stop Djokovic from winning the match.

https://www.tennis.com/pro-game/2020/02/novak-djokovic-vs-gael-monfils-dubai-free-tennis-atp-2020-17th-match/87749/

It just goes to show how we can never count out the top players, even though Monfils is a great player however he is not in the class as Djokovic and Nadal. We see it all the time with Nadal and Djokovic come back from 1 set, two sets down and win the match. They just have the will to keep fighting and never give up which we don't see from a lot of the other players.

Exactly, that's why we call them "elite level' tennis players, who would think that after losing the first set and down on second, he would still win the match. That's Djokovic, Nadal and Federer's mentality, and it's not the first time that we have seen them digging out in the brink of elimination then suddenly out of nowhere gets their second win physically and mentality to overcome their opponents and as tennis fans, you will just wonder and awe with this player.

Djokovic eventually won the Dubai Open against my boy Tsitsipas.

Nadal win the Madrid Open vs Taylor Fritz.

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Quote from: Indymoney on February 28, 2020, 07:37:36 PM

Today I have serious shock becasue as I was watching semi final between Djokovic and Monfils its going straight farward for Monfils as he won first set by 6 - 2 and in second he was leading by 3 - 2 but as I return home match was already ends but score was very different as in favour of Djokovic 2 - 6, 7 - 6 and 6 -1 its really shocking Monfils is good player but in last few matches he cannot handle easily.

@Indymoney I’m not at all surprised that Djokovic won, because he had beaten Monfils 16 times prior to this match and has not lost a single game against Monfils till date. Also if you knew Djokovic well then you would have known that he doesn’t give up till the end, and I’ll give some credit to Monfils too as he really gave it all but in the end he was unable to stop Djokovic from winning the match.

https://www.tennis.com/pro-game/2020/02/novak-djokovic-vs-gael-monfils-dubai-free-tennis-atp-2020-17th-match/87749/

It just goes to show how we can never count out the top players, even though Monfils is a great player however he is not in the class as Djokovic and Nadal. We see it all the time with Nadal and Djokovic come back from 1 set, two sets down and win the match. They just have the will to keep fighting and never give up which we don't see from a lot of the other players.

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Quote from: Indymoney on February 28, 2020, 07:37:36 PM

Today I have serious shock becasue as I was watching semi final between Djokovic and Monfils its going straight farward for Monfils as he won first set by 6 - 2 and in second he was leading by 3 - 2 but as I return home match was already ends but score was very different as in favour of Djokovic 2 - 6, 7 - 6 and 6 -1 its really shocking Monfils is good player but in last few matches he cannot handle easily.

@Indymoney I’m not at all surprised that Djokovic won, because he had beaten Monfils 16 times prior to this match and has not lost a single game against Monfils till date. Also if you knew Djokovic well then you would have known that he doesn’t give up till the end, and I’ll give some credit to Monfils too as he really gave it all but in the end he was unable to stop Djokovic from winning the match.

https://www.tennis.com/pro-game/2020/02/novak-djokovic-vs-gael-monfils-dubai-free-tennis-atp-2020-17th-match/87749/

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Today I have serious shock becasue as I was watching semi final between Djokovic and Monfils its going straight farward for Monfils as he won first set by 6 - 2 and in second he was leading by 3 - 2 but as I return home match was already ends but score was very different as in favour of Djokovic 2 - 6, 7 - 6 and 6 -1 its really shocking Monfils is good player but in last few matches he cannot handle easily.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on February 27, 2020, 07:53:45 PM

^^ The closest in Medvedev at #4. He just need to be consistent but recently he suffered some unusual defeat so that's a big question mark again. Even his coach is not impressed specially last tournament.

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Daniil Medvedev's coach wasn't impressed with the Russian's attitude against Jannik Sinner at the Open 13. Though the Russian beat the next gen star, he lost the first set before making a comeback. When I see Daniil with that kind of attitude, that energy during the first set, crying over all the lost points, it annoys me,” Cervara told L'Equipe.

https://www.tennisworldusa.org/tennis/news/Tennis_Interviews/84418/gilles-cervara-unimpressed-with-daniil-medvedevs-on-court-behaviour/

So it will take some time before we can see someone becoming #3 even if Roger Federer is sideline by injuries.

Yeah its strange how Medvedev has dropped off after a very good last half of last year where he was winning tournaments and even challenging for grand slams. But he has started the year off in poor form but hopefully he can turn it around soon. This could be the year for Thiem as he has started the year off well and like the last two years I think he can once again challenge for the French Open.

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^^ The closest in Medvedev at #4. He just need to be consistent but recently he suffered some unusual defeat so that's a big question mark again. Even his coach is not impressed specially last tournament.

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Daniil Medvedev's coach wasn't impressed with the Russian's attitude against Jannik Sinner at the Open 13. Though the Russian beat the next gen star, he lost the first set before making a comeback. When I see Daniil with that kind of attitude, that energy during the first set, crying over all the lost points, it annoys me,” Cervara told L'Equipe.

https://www.tennisworldusa.org/tennis/news/Tennis_Interviews/84418/gilles-cervara-unimpressed-with-daniil-medvedevs-on-court-behaviour/

So it will take some time before we can see someone becoming #3 even if Roger Federer is sideline by injuries.

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Sad news for federer fans because he is injured and runs an operation because of that.
Will not play at the French Open don't know for other Grand Slams such as Wimbledon and US Open where he still wants to add more tittle Grand Slam.
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https://edition.cnn.com/2020/02/20/tennis/roger-federer-knee-injury-french-open-spt-intl/index.html

I don't want to say that he's finished because Federer is one of those players who has a good determination with his career.

He had a run of injuries in the past and was able to defy the odds by winning more grand slams. So this is not new to him, so mentally he can return and resume and chase more tennis accolades. Although age could be a limiting factor for his recovery this time, but I have no doubts that his career is not yet finished.

So it will be a battle for Djokovic and Nadal for the top one this year. Djokovic looks fresher and strong between the two, so for me, Djokovic will continue to end the year as the number one tennis player. Wish Federer for a swift recovery.

Now its all about when he able to come back in court because if he takes long time then surely its going to hurt his cause as body is also not as its need now from big 3 we have 2 these can rule tennis for some long time as both able to hold nerve and can fight as much a win need new generation is good but not as we expect from them.

Remember that Djokovic also come back from injury and regain his form and became the number one player again. But it did take some time and even himself admitted that it is really a tough road. Andy Murray was once in a comeback trail, but his body was not the same anymore.

We do hope that Roger body can still hold on after the operation and can comeback like Djokovic did. Now that we only have him and Nadal, we would like to see the young generations to take over and at least filled the 3rd spot.

Yes Djokovic was able to come back from injury and in my opinion come back as a better player however I'm just not sure about Federer as he is a lot older then Djokovic when he came back from injury and as we know, it takes a lot longer to recover from injury when the player is older. I think he will make a come back and I suspect that he will target Wimbledon to make his come back but lets just hope that he makes a full recovery. This now opens up the door for one of the young talent to take the number 3 rank, lets see which young talent is able to achieve this.

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Quote from: Trofo on February 27, 2020, 11:03:26 AM

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Mexican Open already on it's way.

Nadal lead the seeded players, but number #2 Zverev lost to Paul. It was a good win for Tommy, his first against a top 10 opponent. Zverev is really playing poor in this tournament, dropping his first service game and double faulting. Dangerous next match for him, it's going to be against big server John Isner.

Alexander Zverev is really overrated in my opinion. He's struggeling mentally a lot and doesn't have the right mindset. He is a strong player of course and has so much talent, but he still needs to learn a lot if he really wants to stay in the top10 or even higher for a good amount of time. But yea, he is only 22 years-old, so I guess we will see if he can make it.

I rather to say that he is inconsistent sometimes playing very well but when play againts players whos rank below him lose, and all more due to his own fault.

I don't really understand what has happened with Zverev. He was the first of the next gen players who showed real consistency and ability to take the fight to the big three. He had strong game from both forehand and backhand, solid serve, good hand. Basically he had all the shots at the high level and solid mental strength. Then out of the nowhere he lost that mental strength and started under performing. Hopefully he will find that lost spark and continue to develop in right direction.

Zverev is not alone in this case we have many youngsters in past with same things but Zverev is still very young and able to fight back if he wants to stay with top ranked players in current year he is not good as total matches 11 and result is 6 - 5 which is very disappointed as yesterday he lost very cheaply now involve in double match but still not good as he need to be hopefully he will do some good in near future.

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Quote from: Trofo on February 27, 2020, 11:03:26 AM

Quote from: Strongkored on February 27, 2020, 10:10:33 AM

Quote from: Jeremy Franklin on February 27, 2020, 06:48:28 AM

Quote from: Kemarit on February 27, 2020, 05:49:27 AM

Mexican Open already on it's way.

Nadal lead the seeded players, but number #2 Zverev lost to Paul. It was a good win for Tommy, his first against a top 10 opponent. Zverev is really playing poor in this tournament, dropping his first service game and double faulting. Dangerous next match for him, it's going to be against big server John Isner.

Alexander Zverev is really overrated in my opinion. He's struggeling mentally a lot and doesn't have the right mindset. He is a strong player of course and has so much talent, but he still needs to learn a lot if he really wants to stay in the top10 or even higher for a good amount of time. But yea, he is only 22 years-old, so I guess we will see if he can make it.

I rather to say that he is inconsistent sometimes playing very well but when play againts players whos rank below him lose, and all more due to his own fault.

I don't really understand what has happened with Zverev. He was the first of the next gen players who showed real consistency and ability to take the fight to the big three. He had strong game from both forehand and backhand, solid serve, good hand. Basically he had all the shots at the high level and solid mental strength. Then out of the nowhere he lost that mental strength and started under performing. Hopefully he will find that lost spark and continue to develop in right direction.

I agree, I don't really think he is overrated, he might be going on some mental issues during the match. Focus is off, lots of mental lapses throughout the game. That's why his opponent was able to take advantage and by the time he wokes up, its too late as he has to cover a lot and most of the time he is not successful.

We have seen this pattern from the next generation of players, Medvedev is another example. He has a break out 2019, but this year is is quite struggling.

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Quote from: Strongkored on February 27, 2020, 10:10:33 AM

Quote from: Jeremy Franklin on February 27, 2020, 06:48:28 AM

Quote from: Kemarit on February 27, 2020, 05:49:27 AM

Mexican Open already on it's way.

Nadal lead the seeded players, but number #2 Zverev lost to Paul. It was a good win for Tommy, his first against a top 10 opponent. Zverev is really playing poor in this tournament, dropping his first service game and double faulting. Dangerous next match for him, it's going to be against big server John Isner.

Alexander Zverev is really overrated in my opinion. He's struggeling mentally a lot and doesn't have the right mindset. He is a strong player of course and has so much talent, but he still needs to learn a lot if he really wants to stay in the top10 or even higher for a good amount of time. But yea, he is only 22 years-old, so I guess we will see if he can make it.

I rather to say that he is inconsistent sometimes playing very well but when play againts players whos rank below him lose, and all more due to his own fault.

I don't really understand what has happened with Zverev. He was the first of the next gen players who showed real consistency and ability to take the fight to the big three. He had strong game from both forehand and backhand, solid serve, good hand. Basically he had all the shots at the high level and solid mental strength. Then out of the nowhere he lost that mental strength and started under performing. Hopefully he will find that lost spark and continue to develop in right direction.

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Quote from: Jeremy Franklin on February 27, 2020, 06:48:28 AM

Quote from: Kemarit on February 27, 2020, 05:49:27 AM

Mexican Open already on it's way.

Nadal lead the seeded players, but number #2 Zverev lost to Paul. It was a good win for Tommy, his first against a top 10 opponent. Zverev is really playing poor in this tournament, dropping his first service game and double faulting. Dangerous next match for him, it's going to be against big server John Isner.

Alexander Zverev is really overrated in my opinion. He's struggeling mentally a lot and doesn't have the right mindset. He is a strong player of course and has so much talent, but he still needs to learn a lot if he really wants to stay in the top10 or even higher for a good amount of time. But yea, he is only 22 years-old, so I guess we will see if he can make it.

I rather to say that he is inconsistent sometimes playing very well but when play againts players whos rank below him lose, and all more due to his own fault.

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