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That is true mate, players will adapt to the situation that they are given however I still think that match fitness might effect some players once tennis is back up and running again. We now know that Wimbledon will be cancelled and the French Open but there is still hope for the US Open which is played in September and maybe they could even push it back a month if things haven't got better by then. Like I have said, the main concern I have is the money side as the economy will most likely be in bad shape once we come out of this and maybe there won't be much funding to host sporting events. I hope it doesn't come to this but it could happen.

Sad to hear this news.

Every sporting event has been cancelled or postponed. The fate of earth now lies in the hand of this virus. The world has been brought to a complete halt. Without a single sporting event life in lockdown is simply miserable.

Yes, but this is a bit expected. After such a monster year, it's hard to keep the focus and younger athletes often lack consistency. Federer, Nadal and Djokovic are just a league of their own. Not only in terms of achievements, but in being able to stay at the top for ages and always being ultra-competitive. They have that little extra, what I don't see in any of the young guns tbh. Once the big3 retire, I see a wide open field in ATP, with lots of different winners for the Masters/GS. Comparable to what we can already see in WTA.

Medvedevs stats for 2020:

W/L: 8-4 (66.66%)
Net win with 100,- flat stake: -256.40
Yield: -21.4%

That W/L ratio looks still fine, but he is priced so low all the times (due to 2019 results), that the profits from wins are too smallish to make up for the losses.

https://www.rte.ie/sport/tennis/2020/0401/1127890-wimbledon-cancelled-for-first-time-in-75-years/

Wimbledon is definitively called off this season, will not be postponed, it is first time since WWII

Here you go: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvmIy2T8meU. You can simply search it in Google.

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@vella85 - As I have said, athletes have learn to adapt at the current situation. As you can see in the video, specially in the last seconds, you can clearly see him somewhat wanted to smash a winner, LOL. I think he is very eager to get in the game now, because even in snow he can still pull that trick shot.

@tyKiwanuka - Medvedev had good break out year in 2019, but sadly though, in the first half of the year, or least prior to the suspension because of the Covid-19, he has somewhat playing flat at up that point.

You should have post the link here mate.

So that's it, Federer is really looking for his comeback after that injury. Obviously, he has age, but I think he really wanted to stay sharp that's why he is slowly practicing even in snow. Yes, it is a good sign but for now everything is still on hold. Everyone is making the best of themselves to just stay fit coz God knows when we are going to see the next grand slam.

I did some stats for the current ATP's Top10 and how they have done betting-wise in 2019 on the tour. All data and odds was taken from OnCourt; they have Pinnacle odds, which are pretty accurate on average. The standard w/o rules of 1st set completed for bets to stand apply.

ATP's Top10 betting results in 2019

Player	Won	Lost	W/L ratio	Net win*	Yield
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Novak Djokovic	54	11	83.08%	-413.30	-6.4%
Rafael Nadal	52	7	88.14%	+75.60	+1.3%
Dominic Thiem	46	17	73.02%	+1651.50	+26.2%
Roger Federer	51	10	83.61%	+91.10	+1.5%
Daniil Medwedew	58	21	73.42%	+1054.10	+13.3%
Stefanos Tsitsipas	53	25	67.95%	+1487.90	+19.1%
Alexander Zverev	41	24	63.08%	-528.60	-8.1%
Matteo Berrettini	42	23	64.62%	+1253.40	+19.3%
Gael Monfils	37	18	67.27%	+170.40	+3.1%
David Goffin	35	26	57.38%	-840.00	-13.8%

*with flat stake 100,- Euro per bet

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With betting on the Top10 every match throughout 2019 and using flat stakes of 100,- Euro per bet, you would have won 4002.10 Euro, equalling a yield of 6.1%, which is pretty good. But it's not that easy. You have four players that basically make you all your money: Thiem, Medwedew, Berrettini and Tsitsipas. And this is no surprise, since these are rising players, that played a very good season, so the markets took some time to adjust the odds. With the old top players like Djokovic, Nadal, Federer, there is not a lot of money to be made, you are more likely to lose here. I am not surprised about Goffin doing so poor, he was never a reliable favourite to bet on imo.

This way of looking at things is of course flawed, since it's only done in retroperspective - the Top10 looked different at the start of 2019. The Medwedews, Thiems, Berretinis, Tsitsipas' played better than one would have expected and thats why they finished Top10 eoy. So you could make money with them. Analyzing the betting results from the Top10 at the start of 2019 throughout the year, will lead to horrible results I guess.

These patterns happen every season. The difficulty lies in finding the players that will shine and those that will fade. But if you are able to spot these players, you can make money, by just blindly betting/opposing them.

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If you are interested in the stats of particular players, just shoot and I will post his results.

Did anyone see the news about Federer practising in the snow hitting the ball against the wall. At least he is back practising which is a good sign but like we have been saying its not the same as match fitness but that goes for all the players right now.

There is not any secure place in the earth right now where Grand Slams should take place.
The positive thing is that many tennis players are donating money in order to tackle this coronavirus outbreak. As tennis is one of the richest sports in the earth it is a very optimistic thing to do.

Now payments are really matter of worry for many sports associations because today I was ready  England Cricket Board is going to face some serious problems in coming days same happening in Australian Cricket Board and many other big Associations are in trouble just because of we have no events going to happen in near future so same problem are going to happen in Tennis Associations and players as many are not rich like big ones so they can face serious troubles in near future.

I agree, the rest of the Grand Slams are going to be held in US/EU the most affected by the COVID-19 pandemic, outside of China so I'm not expecting any tournaments this year unless it is really safe for everyone involved in the games. I guess every players should reinvented themselves, just to keep the busy and stay fit. The only problem I see, just like the rest of sporting events that is being cancelled is the rest of the support system. I mean where are those people going to get their paycheck when there are no games?

Yeah you are right because it is impossible for the Grand Slam tournamnet to be held without spectators, because the audience is also an income for the organizing committee.

The conditions that occur are truly beyond the expectations of the tennis players, but that's what they can do now while maintaining their body stay fit compared to many people out there who become stressed out because of difficulty in getting food and also losing their jobs.

The bad thing with this virus is that we will most likely not see any tennis this year. Most virus cases are in the countries where the grand slams are played so I can't see it happening this year. Like we have been discussing here, its going to be tough for the players mentally because playing is a big difference then just training and keeping fit. I'm sure that most will stay fit ready but being lock in your home for long periods of time will have an effect on some players. We are seeing this with every day people right now as people are going crazy being locked up. Lets just hope we see tennis return in 2021.

But I guess top caliber tennis athletes knows how to pace themselves to really get out of the boredom right now and push themselves as if there is no lockdown at all. I would agree, but I think some players can play with each others as some of them are close to each other. Or they can even hire someone to play against and just to keep them busy. Not going into full swing, but at least the mental game is still there and it will be just needed to turn on the switch again if the game resumes in June or whatever timeframe it is.

Possible, there could be players really yearning to have their body to extend and play instead of just training in about an hour . Playing is very different, your are pump with all the adrenaline plus the fans screaming your name. So there's a possibility that some players may have what we call 'ring rust' and can't perform similar or above because of the long lay-off they had because of the COVID-19 situations. So we will see which players, I suspect some mid-tier players will have lost some kind of sharpness.

Yes he might have the best trainers to help him keep fit and most likely all players have trainers right now helping them stay fit but its a big difference from keeping fit to playing matches. I do think it will be for all players once tennis returns, it shouldn't affect most players but I do suspect it will some players.   

This is really easy for player like him as he is already in elite class of tennis rich players and not going to retire in near future even this injury is now not effecting him with ranking no tennis nothing happening for any one hopefully he will came and have some good time in near future and can stay in top ranked players for some time.

That's what I'm trying to say, they have made so much money in the circuit, so they can hire the best trainers, best therapist or even the best dieticians, and he even have a personal chef to keep them in tip top form even at this lock down period.

https://fitnessclone.com/roger-federer/

But, retiring this year? Nah, it he continues to win after his comeback, retirement will be delayed, that's for sure.

It was reported that Roger Federer is doing good in his recovery, according to Ivan Ljubicic,

https://www.tennisworldusa.org/tennis/news/Roger_Federer/84883/ivan-ljubicic-provides-positive-updates-on-roger-federer-s-recovery/

So we really don't know when the games are going to resume, if he is completely heal by the time everything has calm down and the Covid-19 virus has somewhat contained, then probably Roger will retain (timeline for his return is June of this year). So it's really up to his body and performance and he come back and see how able his body. But I doubt that he will retire this year though. I feel that he will stretch it out until he doesn't have it anymore.

@vella85 I beg to differ as these are high paid athletes who can afford the best dieticians, and hire professional personal trainers to help them remain fit during this lockdown. As far as Federer is concerned it’s probably his last year, and it’ll be a miracle if he can continue next year too as he’s aged, and has suffered many injuries too hence I feel it’s the perfect time for him to retire from the sports at the end of the year.

https://www.express.co.uk/sport/tennis/1219140/Roger-Federer-planning-to-retire-in-a-different-way