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February 19, 2020, 04:46:30 PM
Unfortunately Clijsters lost to Muguruza in she first match come back, but she still have quality as Grand Slam Champions.
How long will she last? it would be very interesting if he could compete with Serena at the French Open.

Well this is her first match in eight years, and Muguruza is a runner-up in this years AO so it's a difficult match for Clijsters in her comeback trail.

Five double faults, but she level the game 4-4 in the second set and then saved two break points to push the second set to a tie-break. But it was not enough as Muguruza won 8-6.
Muguruza is 26 years old and Clijsters is 36 and when she left tennis 8 years back Muguruza enters in and reached no 1 rank now 16 which is still not bad and Clijsters is playing first match after 8 years big difference but as she played in second set we can expect some good from her as she can give shock to any top ranked player.

She used to be an elite athlete, you can see it in the second set. She still has that mentality but coming back after 8 long years and facing a young player who just came short of the championship in Australia, it will be really difficult for Kim Clijsters. She needs more time and she needs to win at least to get her confidence back.

Winning a match will surely give her confidence moving forward and like I said she does have the talent to win at least a smaller tournament but not sure about her competing for grand slams, I think them days are beyond her now but it is good to see a veteran come back and play. Time will tell if it was worth it for her or not.
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February 18, 2020, 04:32:55 PM
Unfortunately Clijsters lost to Muguruza in she first match come back, but she still have quality as Grand Slam Champions.
How long will she last? it would be very interesting if he could compete with Serena at the French Open.

Well this is her first match in eight years, and Muguruza is a runner-up in this years AO so it's a difficult match for Clijsters in her comeback trail.

Five double faults, but she level the game 4-4 in the second set and then saved two break points to push the second set to a tie-break. But it was not enough as Muguruza won 8-6.
Muguruza is 26 years old and Clijsters is 36 and when she left tennis 8 years back Muguruza enters in and reached no 1 rank now 16 which is still not bad and Clijsters is playing first match after 8 years big difference but as she played in second set we can expect some good from her as she can give shock to any top ranked player.

She used to be an elite athlete, you can see it in the second set. She still has that mentality but coming back after 8 long years and facing a young player who just came short of the championship in Australia, it will be really difficult for Kim Clijsters. She needs more time and she needs to win at least to get her confidence back.
I am also saying this thing she is capable to do any upset but need some time as 8 years difference is not going to fill in one or two matches if she feel good then surely she will play some more good matches and can tough some ranking.
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February 18, 2020, 04:29:19 PM
Unfortunately Clijsters lost to Muguruza in she first match come back, but she still have quality as Grand Slam Champions.
How long will she last? it would be very interesting if he could compete with Serena at the French Open.

Well this is her first match in eight years, and Muguruza is a runner-up in this years AO so it's a difficult match for Clijsters in her comeback trail.

Five double faults, but she level the game 4-4 in the second set and then saved two break points to push the second set to a tie-break. But it was not enough as Muguruza won 8-6.
Muguruza is 26 years old and Clijsters is 36 and when she left tennis 8 years back Muguruza enters in and reached no 1 rank now 16 which is still not bad and Clijsters is playing first match after 8 years big difference but as she played in second set we can expect some good from her as she can give shock to any top ranked player.

She used to be an elite athlete, you can see it in the second set. She still has that mentality but coming back after 8 long years and facing a young player who just came short of the championship in Australia, it will be really difficult for Kim Clijsters. She needs more time and she needs to win at least to get her confidence back.
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February 18, 2020, 04:10:07 PM
Unfortunately Clijsters lost to Muguruza in she first match come back, but she still have quality as Grand Slam Champions.
How long will she last? it would be very interesting if he could compete with Serena at the French Open.

Well this is her first match in eight years, and Muguruza is a runner-up in this years AO so it's a difficult match for Clijsters in her comeback trail.

Five double faults, but she level the game 4-4 in the second set and then saved two break points to push the second set to a tie-break. But it was not enough as Muguruza won 8-6.
Muguruza is 26 years old and Clijsters is 36 and when she left tennis 8 years back Muguruza enters in and reached no 1 rank now 16 which is still not bad and Clijsters is playing first match after 8 years big difference but as she played in second set we can expect some good from her as she can give shock to any top ranked player.
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February 18, 2020, 04:08:16 PM
Unfortunately Clijsters lost to Muguruza in she first match come back, but she still have quality as Grand Slam Champions.
How long will she last? it would be very interesting if he could compete with Serena at the French Open.

Well this is her first match in eight years, and Muguruza is a runner-up in this years AO so it's a difficult match for Clijsters in her comeback trail.

Five double faults, but she level the game 4-4 in the second set and then saved two break points to push the second set to a tie-break. But it was not enough as Muguruza won 8-6.

Its always going to be hard for anyone coming back after a long time out of the game and to come up against like you said the runner-up of the AO makes its even more difficult. Like I mention she does have the talent and can break into the top 100 but its going to take time as in the Women's draw there is a lot of great players and all very competitive so for me I can't see her winning any grand slams but she can win a small tournament or two.
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February 18, 2020, 04:02:30 PM
Unfortunately Clijsters lost to Muguruza in she first match come back, but she still have quality as Grand Slam Champions.
How long will she last? it would be very interesting if he could compete with Serena at the French Open.

Well this is her first match in eight years, and Muguruza is a runner-up in this years AO so it's a difficult match for Clijsters in her comeback trail.

Five double faults, but she level the game 4-4 in the second set and then saved two break points to push the second set to a tie-break. But it was not enough as Muguruza won 8-6.
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February 18, 2020, 12:10:37 AM
Unfortunately Clijsters lost to Muguruza in she first match come back, but she still have quality as Grand Slam Champions.
How long will she last? it would be very interesting if he could compete with Serena at the French Open.
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February 17, 2020, 06:57:58 PM
Former world #1 and multiple Grand Slam winner Kim Clijsters is just giving her comeback at WTA tournament in Dubai. It's her first pro match since  losing to Laura Robson in the US Open in 2012 (!). She is a mother of three by now, but after watching the first few games I have to admit that she looks to still have it Shocked She is not in top shape, but she is just so talented and still has good zip. Will be intresting to see, if it's just some comeback for a few months or maybe 2-3 seasons - she is 36 now.

Wow, I still remember those days, with the women version of the big 3 or big 5. Her, Henin, Williams sisters, Hingis. So it's good to see her back, but I think she still needs more time though. Of course those elite players still have it, they just need to find the groove again.

Maybe we need to understand why she is on a comeback, any speculations as to why?

This is what she says:

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“While there is a lot of work ahead of me in the next four months, my biggest motivation is the personal challenge involved – both physically and mentally, I want to test myself again.”

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2019/sep/12/kim-clijsters-comes-out-of-tennis-retirement-for-a-second-time

So she is very competitive and wanted to prove that she can do it at her age. This is not her first time to make a comeback, she did in 2012 and won so she have wait it takes and begin another quest for tennis glory.
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February 17, 2020, 06:19:41 PM
Former world #1 and multiple Grand Slam winner Kim Clijsters is just giving her comeback at WTA tournament in Dubai. It's her first pro match since  losing to Laura Robson in the US Open in 2012 (!). She is a mother of three by now, but after watching the first few games I have to admit that she looks to still have it Shocked She is not in top shape, but she is just so talented and still has good zip. Will be intresting to see, if it's just some comeback for a few months or maybe 2-3 seasons - she is 36 now.

Wow, I still remember those days, with the women version of the big 3 or big 5. Her, Henin, Williams sisters, Hingis. So it's good to see her back, but I think she still needs more time though. Of course those elite players still have it, they just need to find the groove again.

Maybe we need to understand why she is on a comeback, any speculations as to why?
Until now no speculation why she came back but its very good as now she is 36 and still playing very good she can reach in some rank as Muguruza take some tough time to beat her even now she is very highly ranked player its could be very good to watch her in next few matches as she can do any surprise or no.
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February 17, 2020, 06:16:15 PM
Former world #1 and multiple Grand Slam winner Kim Clijsters is just giving her comeback at WTA tournament in Dubai. It's her first pro match since  losing to Laura Robson in the US Open in 2012 (!). She is a mother of three by now, but after watching the first few games I have to admit that she looks to still have it Shocked She is not in top shape, but she is just so talented and still has good zip. Will be intresting to see, if it's just some comeback for a few months or maybe 2-3 seasons - she is 36 now.

Wow, I still remember those days, with the women version of the big 3 or big 5. Her, Henin, Williams sisters, Hingis. So it's good to see her back, but I think she still needs more time though. Of course those elite players still have it, they just need to find the groove again.

Maybe we need to understand why she is on a comeback, any speculations as to why?
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February 17, 2020, 05:57:24 PM
It was an easy match for Kyle Edmund as he blasted Seppi, 7-5, 6-1.

He won the eight of the last nine games, so it was really deserving to see Edmund in winning another trophy. It was not an easy road to the finals for Seppi though, it was a baseline match and rallies and Seppi somewhat was pressured and Edmund easily capitalised on it.

No doubt that Kyle could win this match in my book. I never look at the odds though and most probably he is the favourite here.

I agree that Seppi had to go thru a lot reaching the finals. And we see lots of players their body taking a toll and when they are on the finals, their energy is gone.
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February 17, 2020, 04:00:58 PM
After 8 years still its not bad comeback as she fight hard for second set and lost on tie breaker I watch at the end feel she can do some good in coming years if she is going to stay here again for 2 or 3 years because its never been easy for any player specially woman to comeback and fight like this lets watch how she react in next matches in coming days now Muguruza is also very expereinced and done good job against former no 1.
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February 17, 2020, 03:49:37 PM
Being from Belgium, I have followed her comeback more closely, but I still can't understand why she wants to come back. While she has some talent, it will be very difficult to win tournaments as there are nowadys a lot more young talents. Sometimes, I think she only is coming back for the money, as she has signed already a television deal...
Edit: she lost the match against Muguruza in 2 sets, she is not yet in prime condition  Wink

Yes, she lost, but second set went to tie-break, where she had her chances, but was a bit rusty. Being out of competition for so long, always makes you lack in sharpness in tough situations. But I still think she played pretty well and would have beaten a lot of girls inside Top100 today. Playing Muguruza, who seems to gain some form again, was a bit unlucky.

The top athletes never lose their passion for the sports. Clijsters retired pretty early, so her body is maybe more like someone in her early 30's (leaving the pregnancies aside here). Afaik she was still playing some exhibiitions and/or charity matches in the last years, so you can see that she never hung her racket up. Those girls often want to have children as well, so it's not easy to time everything properly for them. They have enough money for the rest of their life and they don't want to be old mothers. So you often see WTA players around 30 getting pregnant (Vesnina, Minella, Shvedova come to my mind) and halting their career or even call it a career.

Life on tour isn't easy. Those that hate it, just accept it as part of the game. Those that don't bother with being on the road for 40 weeks a year and living in hotels all the time, being jet-lagged frequently, are more likely to come back after pregnancy. Dementieva for example retired the same age as Clijsters, since she wanted to have kids. She never liked the tour life and thus never came back, just enjoying family life. Clijsters seems ok with going through all the hassle again and I don't think she does it for the money. I guess she has enough money and if not, she could always work as TV commentator or something like that.

We are seeing players playing well into their late 30's early 40's now days so this doesn't surprise me however being out of the game for so long might see her struggle to perform at her best. It may take a few months before we see her compete at her best. She can make the top 100 as she has the talent to do so however not sure if it will be this year, maybe next year if she continues on.
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February 17, 2020, 02:45:21 PM
Being from Belgium, I have followed her comeback more closely, but I still can't understand why she wants to come back. While she has some talent, it will be very difficult to win tournaments as there are nowadys a lot more young talents. Sometimes, I think she only is coming back for the money, as she has signed already a television deal...
Edit: she lost the match against Muguruza in 2 sets, she is not yet in prime condition  Wink

Yes, she lost, but second set went to tie-break, where she had her chances, but was a bit rusty. Being out of competition for so long, always makes you lack in sharpness in tough situations. But I still think she played pretty well and would have beaten a lot of girls inside Top100 today. Playing Muguruza, who seems to gain some form again, was a bit unlucky.

The top athletes never lose their passion for the sports. Clijsters retired pretty early, so her body is maybe more like someone in her early 30's (leaving the pregnancies aside here). Afaik she was still playing some exhibiitions and/or charity matches in the last years, so you can see that she never hung her racket up. Those girls often want to have children as well, so it's not easy to time everything properly for them. They have enough money for the rest of their life and they don't want to be old mothers. So you often see WTA players around 30 getting pregnant (Vesnina, Minella, Shvedova come to my mind) and halting their career or even call it a career.

Life on tour isn't easy. Those that hate it, just accept it as part of the game. Those that don't bother with being on the road for 40 weeks a year and living in hotels all the time, being jet-lagged frequently, are more likely to come back after pregnancy. Dementieva for example retired the same age as Clijsters, since she wanted to have kids. She never liked the tour life and thus never came back, just enjoying family life. Clijsters seems ok with going through all the hassle again and I don't think she does it for the money. I guess she has enough money and if not, she could always work as TV commentator or something like that.
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February 17, 2020, 02:27:02 PM
Former world #1 and multiple Grand Slam winner Kim Clijsters is just giving her comeback at WTA tournament in Dubai. It's her first pro match since  losing to Laura Robson in the US Open in 2012 (!). She is a mother of three by now, but after watching the first few games I have to admit that she looks to still have it Shocked She is not in top shape, but she is just so talented and still has good zip. Will be intresting to see, if it's just some comeback for a few months or maybe 2-3 seasons - she is 36 now.

Being from Belgium, I have followed her comeback more closely, but I still can't understand why she wants to come back. While she has some talent, it will be very difficult to win tournaments as there are nowadys a lot more young talents. Sometimes, I think she only is coming back for the money, as she has signed already a television deal...
Edit: she lost the match against Muguruza in 2 sets, she is not yet in prime condition  Wink
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February 17, 2020, 10:49:57 AM
Former world #1 and multiple Grand Slam winner Kim Clijsters is just giving her comeback at WTA tournament in Dubai. It's her first pro match since  losing to Laura Robson in the US Open in 2012 (!). She is a mother of three by now, but after watching the first few games I have to admit that she looks to still have it Shocked She is not in top shape, but she is just so talented and still has good zip. Will be intresting to see, if it's just some comeback for a few months or maybe 2-3 seasons - she is 36 now.
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February 17, 2020, 06:25:45 AM
It was an easy match for Kyle Edmund as he blasted Seppi, 7-5, 6-1.

He won the eight of the last nine games, so it was really deserving to see Edmund in winning another trophy. It was not an easy road to the finals for Seppi though, it was a baseline match and rallies and Seppi somewhat was pressured and Edmund easily capitalised on it.
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February 16, 2020, 05:36:05 AM
Raonic (2) was defeated Kwon. I was rooting for Raonic to win the match because I thought that he made a comeback after winning the second set in a tie break. But Kwon can't be denied, he fought back in the 3rd winning, 6-4.

Tomorrow will be interested as top seed J. Isner will be facing another good player in Johnson.

The first QF has been set up, Humbert (4) vs (6) Kecmanović.

Its looking like its going to be another year like last year in Men's tennis when it comes to these smaller tournaments as the top players don't really seem interested at playing at their best in these tournaments so I'm expecting to see a lot of upsets against the top players and lower ranked players win these tournaments just like we saw last year. That's why I never bet in these tournaments as the top players seem to lose more times then win against low ranked players.

Exactly, specially in the top 5 seed, it looks like they always take a pass on this kind of smaller tournaments and let others play. It's not that they are not interested, maybe they just want others to win this tournaments and taking the needed rest.

It will be Edmund vs Seppi in the finals on Monday. Seppi defeated Jung and then Edwin won against Kecmanović.
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February 14, 2020, 06:32:40 PM
Raonic (2) was defeated Kwon. I was rooting for Raonic to win the match because I thought that he made a comeback after winning the second set in a tie break. But Kwon can't be denied, he fought back in the 3rd winning, 6-4.

Tomorrow will be interested as top seed J. Isner will be facing another good player in Johnson.

The first QF has been set up, Humbert (4) vs (6) Kecmanović.

Its looking like its going to be another year like last year in Men's tennis when it comes to these smaller tournaments as the top players don't really seem interested at playing at their best in these tournaments so I'm expecting to see a lot of upsets against the top players and lower ranked players win these tournaments just like we saw last year. That's why I never bet in these tournaments as the top players seem to lose more times then win against low ranked players.
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February 13, 2020, 06:00:59 AM
Raonic (2) was defeated Kwon. I was rooting for Raonic to win the match because I thought that he made a comeback after winning the second set in a tie break. But Kwon can't be denied, he fought back in the 3rd winning, 6-4.

Tomorrow will be interested as top seed J. Isner will be facing another good player in Johnson.

The first QF has been set up, Humbert (4) vs (6) Kecmanović.
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