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Quote from: miha8 on November 21, 2017, 05:19:52 PM

Quote from: cicciobtc on November 21, 2017, 02:33:21 PM

Dimitrov surprisingly concluded the season at third place!
He has done so many points in the final of the season, will remain in top 5 quietly for at least the next 6 months.

The next season will be really interesting:

Nadal and Federer will win again?
Djokovic and Murray will return to their highest levels?
A. Zverev will finally win a Slam tournament?
who will be among the youngest players the best?

- Djokovic and Murray will return to their highest levels.

Andy Murray I can bet 1 BTC that he will not return ever again to his top level.
Hip injury is no joke, he relies way too much on his movement. Margins at this level are small, he lost this extra step that will make him beatable to many guys outside the top 10.
It is sad because I kind of like him, and wish he won the Australian Open at least once, but I am afraid he won't and the best if now behind him.

My gut feeling is that Federer will have a very difficult season next year, he was so gassed out at the ATP Finals...
I wish Kei Nishikori can come back to a good level and win a slam.

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Quote from: cicciobtc on November 21, 2017, 02:33:21 PM

Dimitrov surprisingly concluded the season at third place!
He has done so many points in the final of the season, will remain in top 5 quietly for at least the next 6 months.

The next season will be really interesting:

Nadal and Federer will win again?
Djokovic and Murray will return to their highest levels?
A. Zverev will finally win a Slam tournament?
who will be among the youngest players the best?

- Djokovic and Murray will return to their highest levels.

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Dimitrov surprisingly concluded the season at third place!
He has done so many points in the final of the season, will remain in top 5 quietly for at least the next 6 months.

The next season will be really interesting:

Nadal and Federer will win again?
Djokovic and Murray will return to their highest levels?
A. Zverev will finally win a Slam tournament?
who will be among the youngest players the best?

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Quote from: szpalata on November 20, 2017, 05:43:00 AM

Quote from: Siren on November 20, 2017, 04:53:33 AM

Quote from: junoreactor on November 20, 2017, 02:45:05 AM

Some people are just too demanding with Roger Federer, he is 36 years old, and lost only six matches this season, incredible, actually one of his best seasons. He had a golden opportunity to get very close to Rafa Nadal to overtake him in the ranking in January, but lost to Goffin, simply ran out of gas.

Now Rafa Nadal is 1000 points ahead, and Roger has loads of points to defend in Australia (title), Indian Wells (title) and Miami (title).
Only hope for the Swiss and his fans is to see Rafa Nadal pull out at some important events (like the Australian Open).

Anyway, I expect a tough season for Roger next year, he will probably skip clay again, but he won't fresh in Australia like he was this year.
Rafa Nadal won't be fresh either, so next season will be one of the most difficult to predict.

Grigor Dimitrov can build on this and become a steady top 5 player. Still not sold on Alex Zverev by the way...

Next big event: Friday, Davis Cup final, between my country France and Belgium. France big favorite but David Goffin in great form.
Allez Tsonga!!! Cool

I don't think that people is demanding of Federer. And we all know that he is taking his body very well and he has been playing the best tennis of his life. That's why we are all expecting and bet on him to him this tournament. However, it didn't happened maybe because he is unlucky that day or maybe his opponent is really good of maybe just physically tired. Of course we are all down to see him lost, but at the end of the day as fans we have to accept it.

Of course this is no big a title like a grand slam for him to be exerting so much energy to stress himself out. I think at this stage in his career he is rather focused on enjoying the game with a cool head rather than trying to win or beat a record like in his youthful days and i think that's what is working out for him.

No one can even question Federer right now because it's an historic season and nobody could have asked more . 2 GSs in a year at this age isn't a small thing . Congrats to Dimitrov for teaching career high ranking 3 and for winning Nitto WTF event.

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Quote from: Siren on November 20, 2017, 04:53:33 AM

Quote from: junoreactor on November 20, 2017, 02:45:05 AM

Some people are just too demanding with Roger Federer, he is 36 years old, and lost only six matches this season, incredible, actually one of his best seasons. He had a golden opportunity to get very close to Rafa Nadal to overtake him in the ranking in January, but lost to Goffin, simply ran out of gas.

Now Rafa Nadal is 1000 points ahead, and Roger has loads of points to defend in Australia (title), Indian Wells (title) and Miami (title).
Only hope for the Swiss and his fans is to see Rafa Nadal pull out at some important events (like the Australian Open).

Anyway, I expect a tough season for Roger next year, he will probably skip clay again, but he won't fresh in Australia like he was this year.
Rafa Nadal won't be fresh either, so next season will be one of the most difficult to predict.

Grigor Dimitrov can build on this and become a steady top 5 player. Still not sold on Alex Zverev by the way...

Next big event: Friday, Davis Cup final, between my country France and Belgium. France big favorite but David Goffin in great form.
Allez Tsonga!!! Cool

I don't think that people is demanding of Federer. And we all know that he is taking his body very well and he has been playing the best tennis of his life. That's why we are all expecting and bet on him to him this tournament. However, it didn't happened maybe because he is unlucky that day or maybe his opponent is really good of maybe just physically tired. Of course we are all down to see him lost, but at the end of the day as fans we have to accept it.

Of course this is no big a title like a grand slam for him to be exerting so much energy to stress himself out. I think at this stage in his career he is rather focused on enjoying the game with a cool head rather than trying to win or beat a record like in his youthful days and i think that's what is working out for him.

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Quote from: junoreactor on November 20, 2017, 02:45:05 AM

Some people are just too demanding with Roger Federer, he is 36 years old, and lost only six matches this season, incredible, actually one of his best seasons. He had a golden opportunity to get very close to Rafa Nadal to overtake him in the ranking in January, but lost to Goffin, simply ran out of gas.

Now Rafa Nadal is 1000 points ahead, and Roger has loads of points to defend in Australia (title), Indian Wells (title) and Miami (title).
Only hope for the Swiss and his fans is to see Rafa Nadal pull out at some important events (like the Australian Open).

Anyway, I expect a tough season for Roger next year, he will probably skip clay again, but he won't fresh in Australia like he was this year.
Rafa Nadal won't be fresh either, so next season will be one of the most difficult to predict.

Grigor Dimitrov can build on this and become a steady top 5 player. Still not sold on Alex Zverev by the way...

Next big event: Friday, Davis Cup final, between my country France and Belgium. France big favorite but David Goffin in great form.
Allez Tsonga!!! Cool

I don't think that people is demanding of Federer. And we all know that he is taking his body very well and he has been playing the best tennis of his life. That's why we are all expecting and bet on him to him this tournament. However, it didn't happened maybe because he is unlucky that day or maybe his opponent is really good of maybe just physically tired. Of course we are all down to see him lost, but at the end of the day as fans we have to accept it.

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Quote from: babygun on November 19, 2017, 05:14:48 PM

Dimitrov won the ATP Masters!
I saw the match and it was a nice game to watch. Both players played quite well and we saw some great points but in the end Dimitrov was a little but stronger. He will now move up to the 3d place on the ranking.

It was a very good game with a lot of breaks and alot of drama. Dimitrov did it well with great performance and as expected he won the titlle of the end of the season

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Some people are just too demanding with Roger Federer, he is 36 years old, and lost only six matches this season, incredible, actually one of his best seasons. He had a golden opportunity to get very close to Rafa Nadal to overtake him in the ranking in January, but lost to Goffin, simply ran out of gas.

Now Rafa Nadal is 1000 points ahead, and Roger has loads of points to defend in Australia (title), Indian Wells (title) and Miami (title).
Only hope for the Swiss and his fans is to see Rafa Nadal pull out at some important events (like the Australian Open).

Anyway, I expect a tough season for Roger next year, he will probably skip clay again, but he won't fresh in Australia like he was this year.
Rafa Nadal won't be fresh either, so next season will be one of the most difficult to predict.

Grigor Dimitrov can build on this and become a steady top 5 player. Still not sold on Alex Zverev by the way...

Next big event: Friday, Davis Cup final, between my country France and Belgium. France big favorite but David Goffin in great form.
Allez Tsonga!!! Cool

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Dimitrov won the ATP Masters!
I saw the match and it was a nice game to watch. Both players played quite well and we saw some great points but in the end Dimitrov was a little but stronger. He will now move up to the 3d place on the ranking.

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Quote from: megynacuna on November 19, 2017, 10:22:49 AM

Quote from: Kimi80 on November 19, 2017, 09:35:50 AM

Quote from: cicciobtc on November 19, 2017, 09:15:15 AM

I'm also surprised by Goffin's victory against Federer though Roger has said he is not at 100% of his shape.
Goffin will face. in the final, Dimitrov and both will improve their best ranking

here are the projections of the ranking atp, it will practically be the definitive ranking of the 2017 season:

1)Nadal 10645
2)Federer 9605
3)Dimitrov 4650 (if he wins the final 5150 points) Best Ranking
4)A.Zverev 4610
5)Thiem 4015 (if Goffin wins the final, Thiem goes down to 6th place)
6)Cilic 3805 (if Goffin wins the final, Cilic goes down to 7th place)
7)Goffin 3775 but if he wins the final he climbs to 5th place with 5275. In any case it is Best Ranking
8)Sock 3165 Best Ranking
9)Wawrinka 3150
10)Carreno-Busta 2615

other strong players:

11)Del Potro 2595
12)Djokovic 2585
16)Murray 2290
22)Nishikori 1885
24)Raonic 1795

I saw that something strange is going on on this match. Roger looked like he is moving to slow and his reaction on the shots(backhand and forehands) was not so sharp too. I haven`t heard that he sad that he wasn`t 100% ready for this duel. I couldn`t figure out if Goffin is playing to good or Roger is not playing his best tennis. Thanks for the info.
Dimitrov is favorite and I think that he will win today. So third place on ATP ranking list should be his. He should enjoy as top 3 player for this 2-3 months because Djoko,Murray and Wawrinka are coming back and will change looks of the ATP Ranking, or better said, will put the things on the right place.

.I could sense roger wasn't himself especially after the firjst set which he did manage to win, Congrats to D Goffin, he deserves to win but i was looking for a Roger v Rafa to end the calender year but it seems that's not happening.

Everyone expected that Rafa and Roger would play in finals but our bad luck both players out from this tournament. Come to the today's game I also expecting that Dimitrov will win this match.

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Quote from: Kimi80 on November 19, 2017, 09:35:50 AM

Quote from: cicciobtc on November 19, 2017, 09:15:15 AM

I'm also surprised by Goffin's victory against Federer though Roger has said he is not at 100% of his shape.
Goffin will face. in the final, Dimitrov and both will improve their best ranking

here are the projections of the ranking atp, it will practically be the definitive ranking of the 2017 season:

1)Nadal 10645
2)Federer 9605
3)Dimitrov 4650 (if he wins the final 5150 points) Best Ranking
4)A.Zverev 4610
5)Thiem 4015 (if Goffin wins the final, Thiem goes down to 6th place)
6)Cilic 3805 (if Goffin wins the final, Cilic goes down to 7th place)
7)Goffin 3775 but if he wins the final he climbs to 5th place with 5275. In any case it is Best Ranking
8)Sock 3165 Best Ranking
9)Wawrinka 3150
10)Carreno-Busta 2615

other strong players:

11)Del Potro 2595
12)Djokovic 2585
16)Murray 2290
22)Nishikori 1885
24)Raonic 1795

I saw that something strange is going on on this match. Roger looked like he is moving to slow and his reaction on the shots(backhand and forehands) was not so sharp too. I haven`t heard that he sad that he wasn`t 100% ready for this duel. I couldn`t figure out if Goffin is playing to good or Roger is not playing his best tennis. Thanks for the info.
Dimitrov is favorite and I think that he will win today. So third place on ATP ranking list should be his. He should enjoy as top 3 player for this 2-3 months because Djoko,Murray and Wawrinka are coming back and will change looks of the ATP Ranking, or better said, will put the things on the right place.

.I could sense roger wasn't himself especially after the firjst set which he did manage to win, Congrats to D Goffin, he deserves to win but i was looking for a Roger v Rafa to end the calender year but it seems that's not happening.

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Quote from: cicciobtc on November 19, 2017, 09:15:15 AM

I'm also surprised by Goffin's victory against Federer though Roger has said he is not at 100% of his shape.
Goffin will face. in the final, Dimitrov and both will improve their best ranking

here are the projections of the ranking atp, it will practically be the definitive ranking of the 2017 season:

1)Nadal 10645
2)Federer 9605
3)Dimitrov 4650 (if he wins the final 5150 points) Best Ranking
4)A.Zverev 4610
5)Thiem 4015 (if Goffin wins the final, Thiem goes down to 6th place)
6)Cilic 3805 (if Goffin wins the final, Cilic goes down to 7th place)
7)Goffin 3775 but if he wins the final he climbs to 5th place with 5275. In any case it is Best Ranking
8)Sock 3165 Best Ranking
9)Wawrinka 3150
10)Carreno-Busta 2615

other strong players:

11)Del Potro 2595
12)Djokovic 2585
16)Murray 2290
22)Nishikori 1885
24)Raonic 1795

I saw that something strange is going on on this match. Roger looked like he is moving to slow and his reaction on the shots(backhand and forehands) was not so sharp too. I haven`t heard that he sad that he wasn`t 100% ready for this duel. I couldn`t figure out if Goffin is playing to good or Roger is not playing his best tennis. Thanks for the info.
Dimitrov is favorite and I think that he will win today. So third place on ATP ranking list should be his. He should enjoy as top 3 player for this 2-3 months because Djoko,Murray and Wawrinka are coming back and will change looks of the ATP Ranking, or better said, will put the things on the right place.

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I'm also surprised by Goffin's victory against Federer though Roger has said he is not at 100% of his shape.
Goffin will face. in the final, Dimitrov and both will improve their best ranking

here are the projections of the ranking atp, it will practically be the definitive ranking of the 2017 season:

1)Nadal 10645
2)Federer 9605
3)Dimitrov 4650 (if he wins the final 5150 points) Best Ranking
4)A.Zverev 4610
5)Thiem 4015 (if Goffin wins the final, Thiem goes down to 6th place)
6)Cilic 3805 (if Goffin wins the final, Cilic goes down to 7th place)
7)Goffin 3775 but if he wins the final he climbs to 5th place with 5275. In any case it is Best Ranking
8)Sock 3165 Best Ranking
9)Wawrinka 3150
10)Carreno-Busta 2615

other strong players:

11)Del Potro 2595
12)Djokovic 2585
16)Murray 2290
22)Nishikori 1885
24)Raonic 1795

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I must also admit that I didn't saw the loss of Federer against Goffin coming, but congrats to Goffin. He has again written history by achieving the Masters final. Dimitrov is the favorite to win and take the title, 3 days ago he destroyed Goffin, but the final is something else.
The only bet I would consider would be over 2.5 sets.

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Dimitrov is favourite to win by the bookies with @1.3
H2H between both players shows 4-1 to Dimitrov. 4 matches were played in the last year.
Dimitrov is showing better perfomance so today im with him. Dont know yet about the handicap. Will see later.

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Quote from: jassanpary on November 19, 2017, 12:01:40 AM

Quote from: miha8 on November 18, 2017, 01:55:21 PM

Quote from: CarlesPuyol on November 18, 2017, 11:05:40 AM

Federer surprisingly lost 2-1 to Goffin in the semi final so unfurtunatelly we will not see him playing in the next match. Its a very sad day to all Federer fans

- Definitely sad day for me because I am a fan of Roger whole life. Simply I think that Roger is tired of tennis, he play on a high level throughout the season and he was barely waiting to finish season but not in this way.

Roger Federer defeat against Goffin is shocking for all the tennis fans, and it was unexpected by considering the way Federer playing the tennis in last year or so. But only himself to blame for the loss as he played loose forehand shots, but need to admire the way Goffin played against the great Federer.

Goffin is a great player and he proved it again , its not easy for a player to loose first set and comeback from behind to win the match against Federer . Goffin defeated Djokovic, Nadal and Federer in a single year

It says how good he is . Congrats to Dimitrov too for reaching career high ranking of 3.

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Quote from: miha8 on November 18, 2017, 01:55:21 PM

Quote from: CarlesPuyol on November 18, 2017, 11:05:40 AM

Federer surprisingly lost 2-1 to Goffin in the semi final so unfurtunatelly we will not see him playing in the next match. Its a very sad day to all Federer fans

- Definitely sad day for me because I am a fan of Roger whole life. Simply I think that Roger is tired of tennis, he play on a high level throughout the season and he was barely waiting to finish season but not in this way.

Roger Federer defeat against Goffin is shocking for all the tennis fans, and it was unexpected by considering the way Federer playing the tennis in last year or so. But only himself to blame for the loss as he played loose forehand shots, but need to admire the way Goffin played against the great Federer.

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Hmm, Federer lost his match against Goffin. I must say I didn't see that coming.

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Quote from: CarlesPuyol on November 18, 2017, 11:05:40 AM

Federer surprisingly lost 2-1 to Goffin in the semi final so unfurtunatelly we will not see him playing in the next match. Its a very sad day to all Federer fans

- Definitely sad day for me because I am a fan of Roger whole life. Simply I think that Roger is tired of tennis, he play on a high level throughout the season and he was barely waiting to finish season but not in this way.

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Quote from: junoreactor on November 18, 2017, 06:57:52 AM

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Quote from: junoreactor on November 18, 2017, 06:21:48 AM

Hmm I have a big bet on Federer to win the title but I wonder if I should hedge in the final if he plays against Dimitrov.
Actually Roger never lost to Dimitrov but there is always a first time, unless your name is Ferrer lol.

Funny you mention that. Cheesy

I bet once on a match thinking it was Federer but it was Ferrer I bet on. Grin

But on a serious note, I do believe Federer will win in the final as he always does when he gets that fair.
I don't know what his finals record is but it must be high.

Every finals matches I can remember watching him he has won.
It just might be him coming of age but I think the drive to succeed and knowing that his time to retire is within the next 2-3 years has him striving forward to not lose these matches and solidify his greatness in the world of tennis as being the best player of all time. Cool

You must have missed a lot of finals in 2014-2015 when Novak Djokovic was at his peak Grin

not to mention 2006-2014 against Nadal Tongue

But yeah, against Dimitrov that should do it. Let's see how Roger deal with Goffin first (whom he destroyed in Basel a few weeks ago).

Yeah. I only started watching tennis when I started betting on matches about a year or less ago.
But yes, Federer did lose and he was at -1500 to win.
That is very bad. Now I think Goffin is set to go up in rank since he made the finals this tournament by winning this match.

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