Topic: Teofimo Lopez Vs. Jamaine Ortiz WBO Welterweight Title February 8 - page 3. (Read 542 times)

A unanimous decision win doesn't mean the winner is winning almost every round or schooling the opponent. Teofimo indeed won via a unanimous decision against Taylor, but did you take a look at the official score cards? One judge gave 117-111 for Lopez. That's a score which means Lopez dominated the fight. But the other two judges gave the same score, 115-113 for Teofimo. That means Lopez won 7 of the 12 rounds and Taylor won 5. 7 versus 5 doesn't mean the winner is schooling his opponent. Schooling is like Haney recently winning over Prograis. He won via UD with all three judges giving 120-107. That's schooling.

Yeah, but if you look at the score, it was UD win for Lopez, so meaning he almost win every round and you can say that he schooled the former unified champion at 140 lbs. And the handed the first defend of Taylor so that shows how good Lopez is, despite his showboating at times and then releasing controversial statement in the media.

And what's important is that he won, he might not knock down Taylor, but it's a hard fought fight and in the end he emerges as victories.

So in this fight, we might see Lopez style, maybe going into another 12 full round fight is Ortiz is tougher, or if he can take his punch then maybe he will push and want to score a knockout win.

Yes, Teofimo's mouth sometimes releases words and statements that haven't gone through his brain. But his decision to cancel that retirement is probably just right. He is still young and can still do a lot of things in the ring, not to mention continue making money. It's still easy for him to look for opponents.

What do you mean he can KO Lopez? You mean Lopez can KO Ortiz? That's possible because Teofimo has strong punches. But I'm not expecting so much from Lopez anymore. That UD win over Taylor is not an indication of power. That was a close fight and Taylor wasn't even knocked down.

It might not be a prime age yet for a boxer, or even in any other sports. But I do agree that he is not going to retire that early, it's unusual for a young boxer to retire, he just want to attract attention, that's it.


But it's a opportunity for him that's why it's a easy decision to fight Lopez for his belt. Just like when he had that opportunity against Loma before. Top Rank gives it to him and obviously he is not taking the big share as far as the split, but still a good opportunity and he was lucky that he is under Bob Arum. So first fight moving up in weight and then relatively unknown, fights for the belt? And I do agree, Teo is going to be too much for him.

Teo is the champion so he really need to win this fight to be able to land that big fights against Haney or Ryan Garcia. Retiring is not an option of him, he might have just to used that to bring hype on his name or try to force Top Rank to give him more money.

That is right, we haven't seen his 140 lbs version, all we have seen is his 135 lbs version of him fighting Loma. And in his last fight at 135 lbs, he struggles and that's why he move up to 140 lbs and it was good that he was also a Top Rank boxer that's why he was given this opportunity to fight for the belt eventhough this is his first time at this weight class. So Teo better capitalized on this and defend his belt with a win.

I can't remember anymore if Teo scored a knock down, but if he did,  it's still not enough as Kambosos were dominating most of the rounds, and you can see Teo was really bloody on that fight as he was hit many times with clean shots.



Lopez will be happy to know that or to see him struggle because as for him, being the champion, he is already in a very comfortable weight and he could deliver his best in this fight. So no more high expectation from me for Ortiz, as I believe this is just a cherry picked fight for Lopez.

Teo is just 26 yo, he was just saying he wants to retire but at that age, it's a prime age.

Ortiz hasn't fought at 140 yet, he is good but this is risky for him and Teo will probably be able to play around with him. Teo capitalized on his win over Loma while Ortiz was defeated despite Loma's age. For Teo, this isn't a real big fight but it will still be interesting to watch.  It'd be a surprise to see Teo lose.

Just crazy to hear that Teo is retiring,


https://www.ringtv.com/655887-teofimo-lopez-un-retires-just-in-time-to-keep-his-belt-and-risk-it-against-devin-haney/

Although the article says that he wants Haney, not going to happen obviously as he Ortiz in mind at least early next year. And maybe him and Haney can talk about that fight. Both of them have belts so inevitably they will have to face to unify the belt as this is not the story, Crawford done it and now Naoya Inoue is looking to do the same against Tapales.

I also don't think that Ortiz is the optimal one for Teófimo but now we start to see Ortiz can give a great surprise and, this boxer has always been at a good level, now that I see that it may be that he has improved a lot with respect to his performance, I imagine that if he is close to fighting with Teo, he wants to do well and not have any type of mistake, at least that's what I would do because if he pushes himself he can give good results and he can go ahead in everything, so seeing what he can achieve is It is likely that things will be very favorable to him, so in this set of ideas I would think that Teo is doing everything to not lose this fight (if it happens) although as I said before I think that Ortiz is a very strong fighter, he can give a surprise to his fans.

Of course, seeing this from a much more daring point of view because when it comes to doing anything to be able to hope for something good, it is simply something that we cannot hope for. In this fight, the truth is I have no idea who can win, I don't see none very outstanding, maybe Teo, but that is something very superficial, what catches my attention about this is that when you need to have a fight of this style it takes a long time for it to happen, Although on the 8th February is a date that is already monetized, right now we are in January, we have to take it as the fierce January because these days are holidays, and the truth is I don't believe that boxers start to be very concentrated in their fights, maybe the most disciplined yes, but I see it as very viable, no one likes to train or work on December 24 or December 31 and perhaps the diet does not Apply for these dates , because meals are Something that can be given and having as a base gaining weight, and just 1 kg that is gained is difficult to lose is to increase the training x2 until it is achieved, although I personally would do it, without a doubt I would not have problems with that, that is what occurs to me .

Teofimo Lopez-Jamaine Ortiz, Keyshawn Davis-Jose Pedraza To Headline Super Bowl Week Show In Las Vegas On Feb. 8




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I didn't think that you will believed his retirement announcement though? I mean he is still very young to retire and you can see from his personality that he make controversial statements and probably his retirement announcement is just one antics on his fight. I guess he already proves that he has power in this division and now he beat the unify champion in Josh Taylor. So this is his first time to defend his belt, so I think he will be the favorite and has all the advantage and possible that he can KO Lopez here although I think Ortiz could be bigger fight night if there is no rehydration clause.

I thought Lopez has already announced his retirement from professional boxing? These boxers announcing retirement cannot stick to their word probably because of money and the desire to fight.

Ortiz is probably an easy opponent for Teofimo. Teofimo is still quick, so in terms of points he may outscore Ortiz. In terms of powerful punch that will bring the fight to an end anytime within rounds, Teofimo has also more power than Ortiz, so I think Lopez is still at an advantage. But I voted Lopez by UD.

If Lopez cherry-picked him then Lopez camp believe that they will win. No one would cherry picked a fighter that they think will give a trouble to the champion, so this isn't too interesting IMO. Maybe if this is mandatory, then we can discuss that Jamaine Ortiz  has a decent chance of beating Lopez.

As per in the Jr. Welterweight ranking in WBO which is Teofimo Lopez is the current champion, Jamaine Ortiz is only ranked at number 11, so that says a lot about this as a cherry picked fight which Teofimo won't have a problem dealing with.

Jemaine Ortiz is not a patsy and if Teofimo will take it easy and take him for granted just like what he did to Kambosos and Sandor Martin, he will find himself in big trouble, Ortiz is capable he may be a cherry-picked fighter but it's not an easy fighter to deal with, although Loma beat him by a unanimous decision, he shows that he can keep up with a tough fighter like Loma.
The fight is on Kambosos if he is in tough shape then he can easily beat Ortiz but if he takes it easy Jemaine can give a tough fight, it's going to be interesting in the first 3 rounds of the fight.

I guess the performance of Ortiz against Loma has somewhat put his name on the spotlight at 135 lbs. He did give Loma a good fight because he is big and we can show that he has power but not a knockout artist.

And so with him going up another weight class, maybe others think that he can have more power here. I'm seeing this fight like the Ryan Garcia vs Oscar Duarte. In paper Duarte was a good fighter, but when he faces Garcia inside the ring, it was a total different story. So this is like a cherry pick for Teo but they need to create hype of Ortiz as somewhat a threat to him or his belt.

Looking at the record of Ortiz (17-1-1), i don't think he poses a threat to Teo Lopez. He is not a knockout puncher so even if he hits Teo with solid shots, i don't think he could rattle Teo. Anyways, this is a good fight as to keep the lineal champion busy next year as a fight with Ryan Garcia or Devin Haney is looming in the horizon.

He has a history of that first with Kambosos and second with Sandor Martin, he is hard-headed if an opponent gets in his head he has a hard time focusing on his game or plan, he has a history of wanting to prove that he can knock out his opponent and that eagerness always caught up with his plan, same with his father who's part of making things worse for Teofimo Lopez, so if Teofimo get emotional Jemaine Ortiz can take him down, the guy is capable.
I will not rule out an upset as Ortiz has a good record and is also a good finisher if Lopez makes a grave mistake, Ortiz will take that opportunity.

Before Teofimo gained popularity, everyone was talking about Lomachenko, as he was a top pound-for-pound fighter in the past. So, whoever beats him is already considered a great fighter. Regarding Loma's record, I would only count his two losses as they occurred during his prime. Only two boxers were able to defeat him: Haney and Teofimo. It's pretty obvious that Teofimo, being a champion, is a high-caliber kind of boxer, so Jamaine Ortiz is unlikely to win, unless Teofimo goes emotional and losses his focus.

He has rebounded from the Martin performance to a win against the best 140 lbs in Josh Taylor. Taylor hasn't lose his belt, he did vacant it or force to, although there was signs that he might have lost to Jack Catterall and is the sign that he is declining. Just sad though that after unifying all the belts, suddenly his performance decline, I haven't seen that kind of boxer though, that after fulfilling his dreams it seems that he is very different.

Anyhow, back to Teo Lopez, he is now the lineal champion at 140 lbs and so he will likely to be the man here unless Ortiz suddenly become a great fighter at 140 lbs.

I'm expecting Lopez to win and then continue his reign and go after Ryan Garcia and Devin Haney.

Looking at their record and of course their attitude in the ring , this is a Lopez advantageous fight because he has a large numbers of knock outs while Ortiz has only few .

and watching their fights now, I finally convinced that this is a lopez bout to win unanimously .

If I'm not mistaken, Teo was able able to knock down Kambosos in that fight? So he was trying to make a comeback, unfortunately he just fell short, but the scores were very close. So most likely it could go either way in that fight, if only Teo was very careful early and not let Kambosos take control.

But here it might be very different, for Ortiz, first time to move in 140 lbs, so there's no more weight drain. But we haven't seen his power yet or whether he can carry his true power in this weight class. So let's give Ortiz a benefit of a doubt and that it could be a better fight, more thant we expected.