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If rain keeps interfering again and again, NZ are screwed. This match will end as a draw if that happens or if India collapse which seems unlikely to me. Great fightback India.
I think it's the other way around. India seems to be pushing for results, not a draw. Rain might help Kiwis a bit because Indians are scoring runs at some pace and soon will look to set the target, but such breaks could ruin momentum and give the opposition time to regroup.

I'd back Indian bowlers to defend the total on 5th day pitch, even if it's around 180-200 runs.

Some people are backing India to win this match while others still think New Zealand are in a comfortable position. I think the most popular opinion can be determined by looking at what the bookies are offering odds at this moment.

With India, they are offering 3.30 odds which clearly suggests that New Zealand is still considered the favourite to win this match. I do not know how they calculate odds because as current situation i rekon India has more winning chances as compared to the New Zealand team.

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I'd back Indian bowlers to defend the total on 5th day pitch, even if it's around 180-200 runs.

India seems to look too good with that bat right now. I agree that the rain may change the condition of the pitch. But I won't say 180-200 is safe to defend. I expect them to set at least a 250-300 target from here. We still have another day. If the Indian can play the whole three sessions today without losing too many wickets, they should start tomorrow with T20 style to set a good target as soon as possible and let the Kiwis bat again. Nothing is impossible. Unfortunately, the rain seems too heavy at the moment. We may head to a draw if the rest of the session gets washed out.
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Advantage with India now. Sarfaraz Khan batting at 125, while Rishabh Pant has made 53 till now. India has gained a lead of 12 runs. The pitch is offering a lot of support for the spin bowlers, and in case India can get the lead above 200, then New Zealand will be in trouble. The New Zealand skipper is doing the mistake of over-relying on his spinners. He should ideally use a mix of spin and pace, as the Indian batsmen are very comfortable against spin (irrespective of the pitch conditions).



After losing all wickets for just 46 runs in the first innings, every batsman in India is able to bat very responsibly in the second innings. Now the match is being delayed due to rain. However, India managed to collect 344/3 before the rains started. Sharfaraz Khan remains unbeaten with 125 runs and Pant 53 runs. The team has collected a huge score of 344 runs in 71 overs. But the Indian team is still behind by 12 runs.

If India doesn't get a chance to bat today then there is a big possibility that the match will be a draw. India India's batsmen are batting brilliantly in the second innings. As every batsman is able to bat very well then it will not be difficult for India to bat more 70/80 overs. And if India can bat more 70/80 overs, the match is more likely to be a draw.
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Advantage with India now. Sarfaraz Khan batting at 125, while Rishabh Pant has made 53 till now. India has gained a lead of 12 runs. The pitch is offering a lot of support for the spin bowlers, and in case India can get the lead above 200, then New Zealand will be in trouble. The New Zealand skipper is doing the mistake of over-relying on his spinners. He should ideally use a mix of spin and pace, as the Indian batsmen are very comfortable against spin (irrespective of the pitch conditions).

Imagine if this scenario becomes true that India gets a good lead and then New Zealand struggle against the spin bowling and loses the match. It will be one of the first matches in history where a team out in less than 50 runs in the first innings manages to win the game from that miserable situation.

By the way, are we in another twist in this match? Indian team were going well and now there is rain in the ground. This means that once the play resumes, the conditions will change a bit and this can give opportunity to the New Zealand to pick in some quick wickets and bounce back in the match. This rain is more beneficial for the New Zealand team as compared to the Indian team.

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If rain keeps interfering again and again, NZ are screwed. This match will end as a draw if that happens or if India collapse which seems unlikely to me. Great fightback India.
I think it's the other way around. India seems to be pushing for results, not a draw. Rain might help Kiwis a bit because Indians are scoring runs at some pace and soon will look to set the target, but such breaks could ruin momentum and give the opposition time to regroup.

I'd back Indian bowlers to defend the total on 5th day pitch, even if it's around 180-200 runs.
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Advantage with India now. Sarfaraz Khan batting at 125, while Rishabh Pant has made 53 till now. India has gained a lead of 12 runs. The pitch is offering a lot of support for the spin bowlers, and in case India can get the lead above 200, then New Zealand will be in trouble. The New Zealand skipper is doing the mistake of over-relying on his spinners. He should ideally use a mix of spin and pace, as the Indian batsmen are very comfortable against spin (irrespective of the pitch conditions).
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Sarfaraz freaking Khan! You beauty! He is the perfect example of hard work can do wonders and it felt great to see him score a well deserved century with Pant supporting him really well at the other end.

If rain keeps interfering again and again, NZ are screwed. This match will end as a draw if that happens or if India collapse which seems unlikely to me. Great fightback India.
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Also, congratulations Pakistan on winning the second test, but the decider is the final test and I feel that the odds are evenly balanced between them now.
Instead of a draw in the first match, Pakistan lost and it really hurt the Pakistani fans. However, Pakistan's revenge victory in the last second Test match has filled the hearts of Pakistani supporters with joy. However, some bowling changes in the Pakistan squad played a vital role in winning this match. Shahenshah Afridi, Naseem Shah, Sajid Shah has been included in the change of these two bowlers, this match has easily gone in Pakistan's favor. However, congratulations are in order for Pakistan to win this face-to-face revenge match.
Not just bowling, pakistan batting side had a good roar in this match due to which a big run board was created. Pakistan made quite a few radical changes after their innings defeat in the first Test. The selection committee was rejigged. Babar azam, naseem shah and shaheen afridi were omitted. first one is always special, it has come after some hard times. A lot has happened over the last week. For everyone to work together, to come up with a strategy to pick 20 wickets and make it happen, that's the most satisfying thing. On the other hand, noman has proved once again that he is one of the best experienced players. A wicket in the first innings and a wicket in the second innings as well, which led pakistan to a quick victory.
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India team bounce back again in game and their effort in 2 nd Inning is quite intense and good. They lost 3 wickets Kohli, Sharma and Jaiswal. They made 231 runs in 49 overs and they need 125 runs more to chase. New Zealand team effort in game is mind blowing especially in bowling line, they dismissed all wickets of Indian monster player for 46 runs only in test game. In their 1 st batting line, they 402 runs and this was also so good. Rachin made a brilliant century in 1 st Inning and he made total 134 runs in 157 balls and hitted thirteen 4s and four 6s. Conway also played quite well in batting and he made 99 runs in 105 balls and hitted eleven 4s and three 6s. I don't think that India team will win this game because they chased all remaining runs of New Zealand team and they will trail 200 to 250 more runs to New Zealand team for 2 nd Inning and this runs will easy for New Zealand batsman to chase. Let's see what happen in next how much Indian team will grab runs.

So far so good for the Indian team. Sarfaraz Khan had made a century batting on 113 and with him Rishabh Pant is playing at 24 runs. India have completed the 300 runs mark with the loss of only 3 wickets.

This means that they are only about 50 runs behind the New Zealand score and they are in a position to give themselves a reasonable target against the New Zealand team. Anyway, the job is not over yet. They have to keep on playing like this until they get the 250+ lead. Still seems difficult but as long as these two batsmen are at the wicket and others to follow also play well, India can reach a respectable position in this match. Remember they were 46 all out in the first innings, how well they have recovered in the 2nd innings.  Smiley
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Also, congratulations Pakistan on winning the second test, but the decider is the final test and I feel that the odds are evenly balanced between them now.
Instead of a draw in the first match, Pakistan lost and it really hurt the Pakistani fans. However, Pakistan's revenge victory in the last second Test match has filled the hearts of Pakistani supporters with joy. However, some bowling changes in the Pakistan squad played a vital role in winning this match. Shahenshah Afridi, Naseem Shah, Sajid Shah has been included in the change of these two bowlers, this match has easily gone in Pakistan's favor. However, congratulations are in order for Pakistan to win this face-to-face revenge match.
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India team bounce back again in game and their effort in 2 nd Inning is quite intense and good. They lost 3 wickets Kohli, Sharma and Jaiswal. They made 231 runs in 49 overs and they need 125 runs more to chase. New Zealand team effort in game is mind blowing especially in bowling line, they dismissed all wickets of Indian monster player for 46 runs only in test game. In their 1 st batting line, they 402 runs and this was also so good. Rachin made a brilliant century in 1 st Inning and he made total 134 runs in 157 balls and hitted thirteen 4s and four 6s. Conway also played quite well in batting and he made 99 runs in 105 balls and hitted eleven 4s and three 6s. I don't think that India team will win this game because they chased all remaining runs of New Zealand team and they will trail 200 to 250 more runs to New Zealand team for 2 nd Inning and this runs will easy for New Zealand batsman to chase. Let's see what happen in next how much Indian team will grab runs.

Overcast conditions are gone that that took the sting out of the Kiwi pace attack. After Yashasvi Jaiswal and Rohit Sharma got out cheaply, Virat Kohli and Sarfaraz Khan managed to cement the Indian innings. All the three wickets which Kiwi bowlers took went to spinners yesterday. Ajaz Patel took two, while Glenn Phillips managed to nab Virat Kohli. And that shows how the pitch changed it's nature in the last 1-2 days. Still two days to go, and there is a good chance that we may get a result from this match.  
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Nice to see Pakistan win a test. Pakistan ways have a nice team but they lack execution. Even in this test match I believed Pakistan were going to lose as all England needed to win on the 2nd innings was 297. They would have won it of they had collected 297 before all their wickets fell but the England's wicket fell sooner letting Pakistan win it by a good run margin. Sajid Khan was the prime bowling force for Pakistan in 1st innings taking 7 wickets while Noman Ali had been the hero for Pakistan in the second innings. He alone took 8 wickets in the inning.
The series is now 1-1 and the final test would determine the winner
 
Yeah In second test game, pakistan beat England with big runs. Pakistan batsman makes 366 run in first inning and england batsman makes 291 run in first inning and lose the match. Then in the second innings, Pakistan batsmen scored 221 runs and England batsmen scored 144 runs. England batsmen did not play well in this match due to which they faced defeat. Salman had the most runs in Pakistan's second innings scored 63 runs off 89 balls. Kamran Ghulam scored 26 runs off 39 balls. The high number of runs in England second innings was Ben Stokes who score 37 runs in 36 ball.  Next were those of Brydon carse who score 27 runs off 32 balls. The main role in Pakistan victory is their bowlers Sajid and Nouman who took all wickets and put England under pressure which led to their defeat.
India team bounce back again in game and their effort in 2 nd Inning is quite intense and good. They lost 3 wickets Kohli, Sharma and Jaiswal. They made 231 runs in 49 overs and they need 125 runs more to chase. New Zealand team effort in game is mind blowing especially in bowling line, they dismissed all wickets of Indian monster player for 46 runs only in test game. In their 1 st batting line, they 402 runs and this was also so good. Rachin made a brilliant century in 1 st Inning and he made total 134 runs in 157 balls and hitted thirteen 4s and four 6s. Conway also played quite well in batting and he made 99 runs in 105 balls and hitted eleven 4s and three 6s. I don't think that India team will win this game because they chased all remaining runs of New Zealand team and they will trail 200 to 250 more runs to New Zealand team for 2 nd Inning and this runs will easy for New Zealand batsman to chase. Let's see what happen in next how much Indian team will grab runs.
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According to the calculations, the chances of the Indian cricket team getting the lead are very low. Because the players of the Indian team are in a rut right from the start of the game. The Indian team is caught in a difficult crisis in the batting phase of the first innings of the Indian team. I don't think Indian team players will be able to stand high against New Zealand team in this match. In this first Test match, there is a high probability that the Indian players will succumb to the tactics of the New Zealand players.
If they could have bowled New Zealand out for 200 or 250 runs and scored 400 runs in the second innings then maybe India team would have won this match but none of these happened so I think Indian team's loss is confirmed in this match. Only waiting for time now. It will be one way for the Indian team to score another 200 runs and bowl out the New Zealand team for 60 runs in the next innings. But that is very impossible.
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That is what happens when you have faith in your team. I am curious what you thought when India collapsed in the first innings. I guess the odds were juicer at that time. It's the end of day three, and India is well behind but lost three wickets so far. Now, day number four will turn the game more into one side. If India manages to bat the whole three sessions, then they may gather some good runs. Yet, I am pretty sure India is going to lose this match.
We may see batting failure of New Zealand if India somehow manages to take a good lead tomorrow by playing the whole day. India has made a great comeback today. Still, New Zealand is favourite to win the match. The chance is very low for India to take a good lead. They won't be able to restrict New Zealand with a small target.

For India to win, they will have to bat well tomorrow. They are still 125 runs behind so first they have to level the score and then get a lead of 250. Once they do this, then they have to bowl out the New Zealand team for under 200-250 runs. All this seems realistic on paper but making this happen on the ground is not practically easy.

A more likely scenario that I see happening is that India may be able to make 250 more runs and New Zealand may get some 140-160 runs target which they will chase easily. I have presented two possible situations in this match and let's see which one plays out.
According to the calculations, the chances of the Indian cricket team getting the lead are very low. Because the players of the Indian team are in a rut right from the start of the game. The Indian team is caught in a difficult crisis in the batting phase of the first innings of the Indian team. I don't think Indian team players will be able to stand high against New Zealand team in this match. In this first Test match, there is a high probability that the Indian players will succumb to the tactics of the New Zealand players.
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That is what happens when you have faith in your team. I am curious what you thought when India collapsed in the first innings. I guess the odds were juicer at that time. It's the end of day three, and India is well behind but lost three wickets so far. Now, day number four will turn the game more into one side. If India manages to bat the whole three sessions, then they may gather some good runs. Yet, I am pretty sure India is going to lose this match.
We may see batting failure of New Zealand if India somehow manages to take a good lead tomorrow by playing the whole day. India has made a great comeback today. Still, New Zealand is favourite to win the match. The chance is very low for India to take a good lead. They won't be able to restrict New Zealand with a small target.

For India to win, they will have to bat well tomorrow. They are still 125 runs behind so first they have to level the score and then get a lead of 250. Once they do this, then they have to bowl out the New Zealand team for under 200-250 runs. All this seems realistic on paper but making this happen on the ground is not practically easy.

A more likely scenario that I see happening is that India may be able to make 250 more runs and New Zealand may get some 140-160 runs target which they will chase easily. I have presented two possible situations in this match and let's see which one plays out.
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That is what happens when you have faith in your team. I am curious what you thought when India collapsed in the first innings. I guess the odds were juicer at that time. It's the end of day three, and India is well behind but lost three wickets so far. Now, day number four will turn the game more into one side. If India manages to bat the whole three sessions, then they may gather some good runs. Yet, I am pretty sure India is going to lose this match.
We may see batting failure of New Zealand if India somehow manages to take a good lead tomorrow by playing the whole day. India has made a great comeback today. Still, New Zealand is favourite to win the match. The chance is very low for India to take a good lead. They won't be able to restrict New Zealand with a small target.
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Threw some lunch money when Rohit's wicket fell. The odds were too juicy to ignore.



That is what happens when you have faith in your team. I am curious what you thought when India collapsed in the first innings. I guess the odds were juicer at that time. It's the end of day three, and India is well behind but lost three wickets so far. Now, day number four will turn the game more into one side. If India manages to bat the whole three sessions, then they may gather some good runs. Yet, I am pretty sure India is going to lose this match. But good luck with your bet. Nobody knows what New Zealand may do in their second innings.
Well, in the red ball cricket, they are a consistent performers (8-9 years), so they earned this faith. It's not a blind loyalty just because it's my home team. 

This was my reaction after watching 2 overs of the Indian first inning but tbh I wasn't expecting such a collapse because India do have a long batting lineup, sometimes you have to give credit to the opposition. Yes, conditions were favoring seamers but Kiwis did bowl some outstanding spells. Overall I was too busy with the meltdown so didn't check the odds.
Ben choo why does it feel like they brought this pitch directly from England? I know it's overcast but the ball is swinging and seaming way too much. I don't see our openers to survive for long.


Tomorrow 1st hour of the first session will be crucial and if India manages to score 70-90 runs without losing a single wicket then it's a game on and pressure will be on New Zealand.

The priority should be avoiding an Inning defeat which was looking tough, considering the lead was massive but now it's in the range so that's a relief.
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That is what happens when you have faith in your team. I am curious what you thought when India collapsed in the first innings. I guess the odds were juicer at that time. It's the end of day three, and India is well behind but lost three wickets so far. Now, day number four will turn the game more into one side. If India manages to bat the whole three sessions, then they may gather some good runs. Yet, I am pretty sure India is going to lose this match. But good luck with your bet. Nobody knows what New Zealand may do in their second innings.
No team can win all the time and that is what the sports is all about, the reason why India collapsed in their first innings is to the wrong call and Rohit already accepted at the end of the day itself that he made a mistake in reading the conditions. NZ capitalized that and made the enough damage so winning from there is like a historical one but never knows anything can happen and India definitely has the potential to make one though.
A team that is down in a single match doesn't mean they will not score for the rest of their matches. In fact, it was their first match, and they tested the bowlers to see how they performed and how much. India is not a weak team in either format, T20 or one-day matches, and I am sure they will come back in this format too. But again, I am saying it does not mean a team will always be good in all formats. Take the example of Pakistan. They lost many matches, but in their recent match, they won. So give them some time; they will come back in their next match.
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Nice to see Pakistan win a test. Pakistan ways have a nice team but they lack execution. Even in this test match I believed Pakistan were going to lose as all England needed to win on the 2nd innings was 297. They would have won it of they had collected 297 before all their wickets fell but the England's wicket fell sooner letting Pakistan win it by a good run margin. Sajid Khan was the prime bowling force for Pakistan in 1st innings taking 7 wickets while Noman Ali had been the hero for Pakistan in the second innings. He alone took 8 wickets in the inning.
The series is now 1-1 and the final test would determine the winner
 
Yeah In second test game, pakistan beat England with big runs. Pakistan batsman makes 366 run in first inning and england batsman makes 291 run in first inning and lose the match. Then in the second innings, Pakistan batsmen scored 221 runs and England batsmen scored 144 runs. England batsmen did not play well in this match due to which they faced defeat. Salman had the most runs in Pakistan's second innings scored 63 runs off 89 balls. Kamran Ghulam scored 26 runs off 39 balls. The high number of runs in England second innings was Ben Stokes who score 37 runs in 36 ball.  Next were those of Brydon carse who score 27 runs off 32 balls. The main role in Pakistan victory is their bowlers Sajid and Nouman who took all wickets and put England under pressure which led to their defeat.
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I am surprised by the score because such a performance structure of the Indian team is not seen normally. They have just won the Test series against Bangladesh at their own ground. They are more powerful in their own venues. But their performance against New Zealand was not as expected. A major collapse by the Indian team in the first innings will be a reason for the loss of the match. However, in the 2nd innings, India play responsibly. They have managed to save themselves from disaster. India have managed to score 121 runs in the 2nd innings with the loss of just 2 wickets. I believe if they can learn from the mistakes of the previous match then they can definitely hold a relatively good position in this match.

If India could have collected even close to 200 in the first innings, the match could have been very competitive. Even India would have won. But India mustered only 46 runs. And that's why I don't see a chance for India to win even if they do well in the second innings. If India can score 600+ in their second innings then the match will be competitive again.

New Zealand team managed to take a huge lead of 356 runs. India are batting quite well in their second innings. India managed to collect 231 runs by losing only 3 wickets. But I guess India will probably lose all wickets before 450. Still the Indian team is 125 runs behind New Zealand. If New Zealand team is given a target of 100/150 runs, there is no chance of India winning.
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