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Looks like the Bangladesh team are going to face a major hurdle if Shakib is not a part of the team.

Quote from: akhjob on October 27, 2019, 02:27:36 AM

But, have the current committee members of CWAB resigned? Because that was on top of their demands. Or did the players didn't press it too much when their other demands were met?

Nope. Based on my research, none of the committee members resigned. The players were clearly expecting too much which is why they were satisfied with the 50% pay hike which is the best decision in my opinion.

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Quote from: Little Mouse on October 27, 2019, 01:22:35 AM

Anyway, BCB has decided to go with the demand of the players and hence, no more issue. Everyone will play other than Tamim.

Increasing the salaries/allowances and other demands seem to be enforceable. But, have the current committee members of CWAB resigned? Because that was on top of their demands. Or did the players didn't press it too much when their other demands were met?

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Quote from: Clement Kaliyar on October 27, 2019, 12:43:34 AM

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The Bangladesh players should be cautious here. Look at what happened to the Sri Lankans last time. Many of their senior players refused to play in Pakistan due to safety reasons. And therefore they sent a squad, that was primarily composed of youngsters. But they performed beyond all expectations in Pakistan and now many of these senior players are finding that their slots are under threat. The Bangladeshi players should not make the same mistake. If they refuse to play, then obviously the BCB will pick players from the B team or the U19 team.

For Srilanka it was a blessing in disguise as the senior players took a break because of security reasons and the Srilankan board was forced to find some new talents, if not i doubt there will be any change as the Srilankan selectors was not looking for new talents until they were forced to when the senior players refused to play in Pakistan. If the Bangladesh board can find new talents it is good for the team Wink

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As posted by Little Mouse above, the issue has been resolved and the senior players will turn up for the series against India. So we may not witness a repeat of all the drama and turmoil that the Sri Lankans experienced before their tour of Pakistan. Anyway we can't compare the two disputes, as the first one was over wages and the second one over security issues.

It is true that the Pakistan series gave the Sri Lankan selectors an opportunity to test new talent. And some of them (especially Wanindu Hasaranga and batsmen such as Shehan Jayasuriya) performed so well during that tour, that they found a permanent place in the senior side. No such possibility here, as the issues have been resolved. Anyway, my feeling is that against a strong side such as India, it will be better to go with the tried and tested.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on October 26, 2019, 10:17:37 PM

If they refuse to play, then obviously the BCB will pick players from the B team or the U19 team.

It was turned into a national issue, you know cricket is one of the emotic place for us. A lot of unexpected events had happened in Bangladeshi Politics within last couple of months. It's just another issue mixed of both the political and the benefit of the players. I may not make you understand, the condition here is being worst day by da.
Anyway, BCB has decided to go with the demand of the players and hence, no more issue. Everyone will play other than Tamim.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on October 26, 2019, 10:17:37 PM

The Bangladesh players should be cautious here. Look at what happened to the Sri Lankans last time. Many of their senior players refused to play in Pakistan due to safety reasons. And therefore they sent a squad, that was primarily composed of youngsters. But they performed beyond all expectations in Pakistan and now many of these senior players are finding that their slots are under threat. The Bangladeshi players should not make the same mistake. If they refuse to play, then obviously the BCB will pick players from the B team or the U19 team.

For Srilanka it was a blessing in disguise as the senior players took a break because of security reasons and the Srilankan board was forced to find some new talents, if not i doubt there will be any change as the Srilankan selectors was not looking for new talents until they were forced to when the senior players refused to play in Pakistan. If the Bangladesh board can find new talents it is good for the team Wink

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Quote from: akhjob on October 26, 2019, 12:53:00 PM

While the Indian Squad for the upcoming Test series and T20 series with Bangladesh have been announced, there has been no announcement regarding the test squad from the BCB, Only the t20 squad has been announced. Does that mean the players strike which started a few days back, ended and that the tour will be played as planned?

The Bangladesh players should be cautious here. Look at what happened to the Sri Lankans last time. Many of their senior players refused to play in Pakistan due to safety reasons. And therefore they sent a squad, that was primarily composed of youngsters. But they performed beyond all expectations in Pakistan and now many of these senior players are finding that their slots are under threat. The Bangladeshi players should not make the same mistake. If they refuse to play, then obviously the BCB will pick players from the B team or the U19 team.

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Quote from: akhjob on October 26, 2019, 12:53:00 PM

While the Indian Squad for the upcoming Test series and T20 series with Bangladesh have been announced, there has been no announcement regarding the test squad from the BCB, Only the t20 squad has been announced. Does that mean the players strike which started a few days back, ended and that the tour will be played as planned?

There are no ODI scheduled for this tour, it is strange to see that only Test match and T20 are being played in the series, to revive Test cricket the ICC is doing many things including day night matches and if they are neglecting ODI then there will be a time the ICC will plan to revive the ODI interest among the masses. Cheesy

, A couple of ODI will not be a bad idea as i like ODI cricket than the other formats of cricket.

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Quote from: Haunebu on October 26, 2019, 06:19:42 AM

I don't like him, but I gotta say that he is a really smart man who knows how to attract people through his words and actions. No wonder he keeps getting re-elected with the majority in his favor.

I am not into politics nor like the way things are handle and the way in which Modi and his party is attracting people is by religious polarization. People will not understand the economic slowdown and crisis unless it will hit them hard and we are about to face those situation and after that everyone will understand.

That may be true. I read recently that India is currently facing some an economic slowdown and there are not enough jobs being created leading to a spike in the unemployment rates across India. Hopefully, this will change soon.

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Quote from: Maheshkumar_Hrangkhawl on October 26, 2019, 09:40:14 AM

Being the captain of the Indian team is one thing, and heading the BCCI is another. The latter is going to be a much more difficult task. There are several factions within the BCCI, and each of these cabals are being supported by powerful political groupings. For Sourav Ganguly, it is going to be a very tough task to please all of these groups.

I am sure Sourav Ganguly will be a better leader than the rest even in his role as BCCI president, he will show his administrative skills in the coming years and he will bring some changes in India which will help cricket and he might give importance in developing the younger generation of players.

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Don't know much about the BCCI, ICC revenue share issues, so I'm am not going to comment on them. But I am happy to see BCCI headed by Ganguly, hope he takes India further beyond.

While the Indian Squad for the upcoming Test series and T20 series with Bangladesh have been announced, there has been no announcement regarding the test squad from the BCB, Only the t20 squad has been announced. Does that mean the players strike which started a few days back, ended and that the tour will be played as planned?

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Quote from: erikalui on October 26, 2019, 03:28:32 AM

Sourav Ganguly became the chief of BCCI. I'm so happy after such a long time.

He has changed the way India team use to play cricket before his leadership and after he became captain India started to win the test matches and series abroad as well and he has supported his team mates and got the best from them. Hopefully he will continue as a chief of BCCI too.

Being the captain of the Indian team is one thing, and heading the BCCI is another. The latter is going to be a much more difficult task. There are several factions within the BCCI, and each of these cabals are being supported by powerful political groupings. For Sourav Ganguly, it is going to be a very tough task to please all of these groups.

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Quote from: erikalui on October 26, 2019, 03:28:32 AM

Sourav Ganguly became the chief of BCCI. I'm so happy after such a long time.

He has changed the way India team use to play cricket before his leadership and after he became captain India started to win the test matches and series abroad as well and he has supported his team mates and got the best from them. Hopefully he will continue as a chief of BCCI too.

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^^ Truth to be told, no one can deny that ICC treat BCCI as its biggest cash cow and they are keep coming with more policy such as ICC tournament every year which leads to Media rights war etc. not to mention petty threats of "Give us X amount of money or lose the hosting rights of 2023 WC" they want to earn money in India but don't want to pay taxes which is around 30 M.

First BCCI share was around 500ish million but later it was fixed around 400ish million and now again some share cuts in the process. India is big country and how BCCI is supposed to keep up if its funds keep going down, if such quackery continues then i am sure BCCI going to put its foot down at some point. then ICC can enjoy and do whatever they want.

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Quote from: eaLiTy on October 26, 2019, 08:07:20 AM

There is a reason for India getting the majority of the shares, India is generating the majority of revenue for the ICC Wink

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That is true. But that doesn't mean that BCCI should get half of the ICC revenues. The BCCI is already the richest cricket board in the world and they get most of their revenue from the IPL, TV rights and sponsorship (and not from the ICC contribution). On the other hand, the other boards are heavily dependent on the ICC funds. If we apply the same logic, then FIFA should be giving 50% of their revenue to Brazil and FIBA should be providing 50% of their money to the US. It doesn't work that way.

The ICC has blocked international cricket calendar for 2 months every year, so that the IPL could be conducted. No other cricket board has been given this advantage by the ICC. Neither the BBL nor the CPL have blocked international calendar. When the ICC is doing so much, then I guess the BCCI should not push too hard. Already they are receiving 4 times when compared to the other boards.

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Quote from: Haunebu on October 26, 2019, 06:19:42 AM

Political parties love plunging their noses into wherever money is involved and this was a big opportunity for them. Modi loves taking care of his home state based on what I heard and this new stadium might be remarkable. Wonder when it will be fully ready.

They are making huge infrastructures and earlier they made Statue of Unity spending 3000 crores and god knows what will be the cost of this stadium, the estimate is said to be 700 crores and from where they will be taking these funds, the stadium is set to inaugurate next year.

Quote from: Haunebu on October 26, 2019, 06:19:42 AM

I don't like him, but I gotta say that he is a really smart man who knows how to attract people through his words and actions. No wonder he keeps getting re-elected with the majority in his favor.

I am not into politics nor like the way things are handle and the way in which Modi and his party is attracting people is by religious polarization. People will not understand the economic slowdown and crisis unless it will hit them hard and we are about to face those situation and after that everyone will understand.

Quote from: Sithara007 on October 26, 2019, 06:21:08 AM

As you can see, BCCI already receives more than 25% of the revenues, on top of the billions from IPL. Now they want to rise their share even more and this will leave the other boards in serious disarray.

There is a reason for India getting the majority of the shares, India is generating the majority of revenue for the ICC Wink

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Quote from: erikalui on October 26, 2019, 03:28:32 AM

Sourav Ganguly became the chief of BCCI. I'm so happy after such a long time.

Well... I am not that happy. He is once again going to push forward with the "Big 3 proposal", by allocating the majority of the funding for India/England/Australia and leave breadcrumbs for the other 9 test nations and the associate teams. As a former international cricketer, I expected him to take a more unbiased stance on this issue, but looks like I was wrong. Check this:

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/27929804/bcci-v-icc-face-imminent-reduced-payouts

For starters, BCCI already receives the lions's share of the ICC revenues. Under the current financial model, this is the funding breakdown for 2016-2023:

Total for test nations - $1,536 million
India - $405 million
England - $139 million
Australia, South Africa, Pakistan, New Zealand, Sri Lanka, West Indies and Bangladesh - $128 million each
Zimbabwe - $94 million

As you can see, BCCI already receives more than 25% of the revenues, on top of the billions from IPL. Now they want to rise their share even more and this will leave the other boards in serious disarray.

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Quote from: eaLiTy on October 26, 2019, 03:47:11 AM

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Guess PM Modi has something to do with the biggest stadium being built in India for obvious reasons.

I did not know that the governing body was the political party of Gujarat and Modi was the former president Shocked

, i thought these are independent bodies without the intervention of political parties, Modi likes to create big monuments and it is no wonder he is building the biggest cricket stadium in the world.

Political parties love plunging their noses into wherever money is involved and this was a big opportunity for them. Modi loves taking care of his home state based on what I heard and this new stadium might be remarkable. Wonder when it will be fully ready.

I don't like him, but I gotta say that he is a really smart man who knows how to attract people through his words and actions. No wonder he keeps getting re-elected with the majority in his favor.

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Quote from: erikalui on October 26, 2019, 03:28:32 AM

Sourav Ganguly became the chief of BCCI. I'm so happy after such a long time.

What are your expectations from him. I remember he was the one who had built the India team stronger after their collapse around coach Chappell. Now, India must be doing great in all 3 formats hence the job in front of Sourav Ganguly is much easier in some perspective except management sides.

Even in management side, I read India federal court is reforming the entire structure of BCCI and that also may ease Sourav Ganguly's job.

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Quote from: erikalui on October 26, 2019, 03:28:32 AM

Sourav Ganguly became the chief of BCCI. I'm so happy after such a long time.

Sourav Ganguly will bring his leadership qualities in his new role and there is no doubt he will take Indian cricket to new heights, he proved his worth as a captain and now he is continuing his role as the president of the wealthiest board in cricket and he will make use of the money in the right way than the predecessor who had accusation and other allegation against them. There was a war of words with Ravi Shastri a few years back and how they are going to handle each other is to be seen.

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Quote from: Haunebu on October 26, 2019, 02:39:40 AM

Guess PM Modi has something to do with the biggest stadium being built in India for obvious reasons.

I did not know that the governing body was the political party of Gujarat and Modi was the former president Shocked

, i thought these are independent bodies without the intervention of political parties, Modi likes to create big monuments and it is no wonder he is building the biggest cricket stadium in the world.

Quote from: JSRAW on October 25, 2019, 02:45:46 PM

Pakistan vs Rest of the World is equal to Pakistan vs India these days since they only manage to defeat India once in a blue-moon Wink

. Guess we will get to watch them next in action during the T-20 World Cup next year.

I seriously do not remember when Pakistan beat India in a very long time, they usually meet only in ICC tournaments and Pakistan have a really poor record against India in those tournaments but when ever they play it will be a hyped match.

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