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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on February 03, 2020, 10:33:32 AM

I agree. I am just saying that it will be too much to ask for 28,000 people to create a cricket team, which can take on a country such as India (population of close to 1.4 billion).

Having a huge population is not a benchmark to produce best players, take a look at Jamaica who have a population of around 3 million and still they are producing world class athletes who wins gold at the Olympics and with the billion population everyone knows how many we win Cheesy

. If we take Football Croatia with a population of just 4 million competed in the world cup final and Uruguay when they won the World cup just had a population of 1.7 million but India with a billion population is yet to play a world cup. It all depends upon the interest level of a certain sport in every country that will help them to produce world class talents and population is not a benchmark Wink

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Quote from: JSRAW on February 07, 2020, 04:34:22 AM

I don't have much expectation from Bangladeshi team as their key players missing the game and they are playing only 1 test right now, 2nd test is schedule in April. Its strange and weird move from both boards PCB-BCB.

Not sure why a long gap for a series, is it because of the security issues that is discussed here, may be they want to monitor how the match goes and if everything is fine then they will assess the situation once again and complete the series Cheesy

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Yeah its seems like that, so called "Security Reasons" and its more of BCB's idea to play bilateral series in 3 phases, they are making joke out of this bilateral series TBH.

First Phase (Jan) - T-20
Second Phase (Feb) - 1 Test
Final (April) - 1 ODI and 1 test

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Quote from: JSRAW on February 07, 2020, 04:34:22 AM

I don't have much expectation from Bangladeshi team as their key players missing the game and they are playing only 1 test right now, 2nd test is schedule in April. Its strange and weird move from both boards PCB-BCB.

Not sure why a long gap for a series, is it because of the security issues that is discussed here, may be they want to monitor how the match goes and if everything is fine then they will assess the situation once again and complete the series Cheesy

. What ever be the case Bangladesh is all out for 233 runs and if Pakistan can bat well then it is an easy win for them. There are new faces in both the teams and lets see how the Pakistan team will bat tomorrow.

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^^ Not watching live but keeping tab on score now and then.

I don't have much expectation from Bangladeshi team as their key players missing the game and they are playing only 1 test right now, 2nd test is schedule in April. Its strange and weird move from both boards PCB-BCB.

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Anyone watching the Pakistan and Bangladesh match, Bangladesh is struggling as they already lost 5 wickets, Shaheen Shah Afridi and Mohammad Abbas are bowling a dream spell and this is the first time i am seeing them bowl and with half the side back in the pavilion they will be finding it hard to make a good total in the first innings and it all depends how the Pakistan batsman will score in the first innings.

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Quote from: ene1980 on February 03, 2020, 04:25:55 AM

If you are talking about population it does not mean that the amount of people will make a difference, you need to have an interest for the game and if you have the talent you will get selected, China has the biggest population and they do not have a cricket team Tongue

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I agree. I am just saying that it will be too much to ask for 28,000 people to create a cricket team, which can take on a country such as India (population of close to 1.4 billion). There was some effort from the Zimbabwe board to spread cricket to the indigenous population. But they are considering it as a career option, rather than as a pure sport. There have been some good black players in the past (such as Henry Olonga and Tatenda Taibu), but few are getting noticed now.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on January 31, 2020, 09:37:50 AM

As expected, the match has ended in another boring draw. The Zimbabwean bowlers had 90 plus overs with them, but they failed to bowl out the Sri Lankans. Rain also played a major role in this test match, and this is another example of the climate change affecting cricket schedule. Those who are proposing the 4-day test format needs to explain how they are going to take this factor in to account.

Though it was a boring draw but it proved Zim can play test cricket. I was a fan of Zim cricket when flower brothers playing cricket together.

Zimbabwe is good side but now they need some good time as they are also facing some serious domestic problems like quota system and wagering problems too much involvement from politicians like this they need to stop this all and work on domestic system upgradtion otherwise this is failure.

Zimbabwe and SL are two such team where after the legends of the game retired they just could not manage to have the replacement players on to the par of those who left . At one time Zimbabwe had Flower brothers , Heath Steak , Olonga etc and after that they don’t had the players of those likes which is creating the problem and same is the case with Sri Lanka team as well.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on February 02, 2020, 10:16:33 PM

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Zimbabwe was always dependent on the white population for its cricket players, since the sport is not much popular among the blacks. And the white population there declined from 296,000 (in 1975) to 28,000 (as per 2012 Census). The current population may be even lower.

If you are looking like that the cricket is invented by the English and then the sports grew where they conquered Wink

. I am not aware of the census or the white population in Zimbabwe as majority left or forced to leave everything behind because of the political situation and you cannot expect anyone to return in that state of political climate.

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on February 02, 2020, 10:16:33 PM

Now you can't expect 28,000 people to form a cricket team and beat teams such as India and Pakistan, who have populations in excess of 1 billion and 100 million respectively. The new president (Emmerson Mnangagwa) has promised to bring back the white farmers, but I don't think that anyone will return to that country now.

If you are talking about population it does not mean that the amount of people will make a difference, you need to have an interest for the game and if you have the talent you will get selected, China has the biggest population and they do not have a cricket team Tongue

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Quote from: ene1980 on February 02, 2020, 06:59:58 PM

Quote from: Indymoney on February 02, 2020, 01:14:48 PM

Zimbabwe is good side but now they need some good time as they are also facing some serious domestic problems like quota system and wagering problems too much involvement from politicians like this they need to stop this all and work on domestic system upgradtion otherwise this is failure.

Zimbabwe had a good side a decade back and not anymore, i cannot find a good bowler in the side and they are undergoing political problems for a very long time and it is not going to end anytime soon as the world police is not interested in countries without any wealth Wink

. In the last match they could have won the match if weather was in their favor and if they could have scored some quick runs, their captain needs to take aggressive positions if they want to win and since they are lacking confidence they want to contain the match rather than winning.

Zimbabwe was always dependent on the white population for its cricket players, since the sport is not much popular among the blacks. And the white population there declined from 296,000 (in 1975) to 28,000 (as per 2012 Census). The current population may be even lower. Now you can't expect 28,000 people to form a cricket team and beat teams such as India and Pakistan, who have populations in excess of 1 billion and 100 million respectively. The new president (Emmerson Mnangagwa) has promised to bring back the white farmers, but I don't think that anyone will return to that country now.

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Quote from: Indymoney on February 02, 2020, 01:14:48 PM

Zimbabwe is good side but now they need some good time as they are also facing some serious domestic problems like quota system and wagering problems too much involvement from politicians like this they need to stop this all and work on domestic system upgradtion otherwise this is failure.

Zimbabwe had a good side a decade back and not anymore, i cannot find a good bowler in the side and they are undergoing political problems for a very long time and it is not going to end anytime soon as the world police is not interested in countries without any wealth Wink

. In the last match they could have won the match if weather was in their favor and if they could have scored some quick runs, their captain needs to take aggressive positions if they want to win and since they are lacking confidence they want to contain the match rather than winning.

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Quote from: TEAM360 on February 02, 2020, 06:30:29 AM

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on January 31, 2020, 09:37:50 AM

As expected, the match has ended in another boring draw. The Zimbabwean bowlers had 90 plus overs with them, but they failed to bowl out the Sri Lankans. Rain also played a major role in this test match, and this is another example of the climate change affecting cricket schedule. Those who are proposing the 4-day test format needs to explain how they are going to take this factor in to account.

Though it was a boring draw but it proved Zim can play test cricket. I was a fan of Zim cricket when flower brothers playing cricket together.

Zimbabwe is good side but now they need some good time as they are also facing some serious domestic problems like quota system and wagering problems too much involvement from politicians like this they need to stop this all and work on domestic system upgradtion otherwise this is failure.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on January 31, 2020, 09:37:50 AM

As expected, the match has ended in another boring draw. The Zimbabwean bowlers had 90 plus overs with them, but they failed to bowl out the Sri Lankans. Rain also played a major role in this test match, and this is another example of the climate change affecting cricket schedule. Those who are proposing the 4-day test format needs to explain how they are going to take this factor in to account.

@Vishnu.Reang while this match may have ended in a draw I felt that the Zimbabwean team will be able to draw lots of positivity from this fixture, as they almost came close to winning this test match. Also I’ll second your concern regarding the weather, because so many matches gets washed out due to poor planning from the ICC.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on January 31, 2020, 09:37:50 AM

As expected, the match has ended in another boring draw. The Zimbabwean bowlers had 90 plus overs with them, but they failed to bowl out the Sri Lankans. Rain also played a major role in this test match, and this is another example of the climate change affecting cricket schedule. Those who are proposing the 4-day test format needs to explain how they are going to take this factor in to account.

Though it was a boring draw but it proved Zim can play test cricket. I was a fan of Zim cricket when flower brothers playing cricket together.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on January 31, 2020, 01:55:46 PM

Quote from: eaLiTy on January 31, 2020, 11:58:37 AM

When they saw Test matches ending in three days the ICC board thought that having a 4 day match would be great rather than having the regular 5 days and after the proposal many matches ended in the final day and some of the matches that would have ended in a draw had results and with this in mind i am sure they will rethink about that proposal and they should plan to make more day night Test matches rather than reducing the days.

Well... I have a suggestion here.

In case a test match ends within 3 days, then one ODI match or a T20 match should be scheduled for the 5th day (the 4th day can be used for rest). The cricket fans who purchased tickets for 4th and 5th days of the test match should be allowed free entry to this match. In this way, the board can earn more revenue, and no one will complain about the wastage of time.

Only if ICC and Cricket Board has any crystal ball in their bags, then there is a chance they can apply this in reality.

There is thingy called FTP ( Future Tour Program) this process fix the fixtures for 2-3 years in advance. who to play, when, where and how many games....

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Quote from: onrise on February 01, 2020, 01:33:58 AM

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on January 31, 2020, 09:37:50 AM

As expected, the match has ended in another boring draw. The Zimbabwean bowlers had 90 plus overs with them, but they failed to bowl out the Sri Lankans. Rain also played a major role in this test match, and this is another example of the climate change affecting cricket schedule. Those who are proposing the 4-day test format needs to explain how they are going to take this factor in to account.

Zimbabwe bowlers just dint know how-to pick-up wickets at regular interval and this gave a chance to Mendis to build the innings and he did brilliantly which actually helped Sri Lanka to draw the test match rather than losing it. Zimbabwe would have fancied their chance of making this test match their winning but just it did not happened this time. Sikandar was named Man of the match for his brilliant all-round performance.

They didn't picked Kyle Jarvis for this match, and it had a negative impact on their bowling capabilities. All of their bowlers were inexperiened and this was reflected in the Sri Lankan second innings. The absence of a quality spinner is being felt, and I believe that the board should try to bring back Graeme Cremer (he relocated to the UAE last year).

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on January 31, 2020, 09:37:50 AM

As expected, the match has ended in another boring draw. The Zimbabwean bowlers had 90 plus overs with them, but they failed to bowl out the Sri Lankans. Rain also played a major role in this test match, and this is another example of the climate change affecting cricket schedule. Those who are proposing the 4-day test format needs to explain how they are going to take this factor in to account.

Zimbabwe bowlers just dint know how-to pick-up wickets at regular interval and this gave a chance to Mendis to build the innings and he did brilliantly which actually helped Sri Lanka to draw the test match rather than losing it. Zimbabwe would have fancied their chance of making this test match their winning but just it did not happened this time. Sikandar was named Man of the match for his brilliant all-round performance.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on January 31, 2020, 09:37:50 AM

As expected, the match has ended in another boring draw. The Zimbabwean bowlers had 90 plus overs with them, but they failed to bowl out the Sri Lankans. Rain also played a major role in this test match, and this is another example of the climate change affecting cricket schedule. Those who are proposing the 4-day test format needs to explain how they are going to take this factor in to account.

Well Zimbabwe had their chance to win the match but their bowlers were just not good enough and couldn't continue on from the first innings. To be honest I think climate change is a load of bs and people need to stop blaming climate change for things. My grandfather said that the weather was a lot hotter back in his day then it is now and I can even prove that the sea was more inland then it is now so climate change is just made up to control the masses. Zimbabwe were just not good enough to win even though they had a big chance, simple as that.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on January 31, 2020, 01:55:46 PM

Quote from: eaLiTy on January 31, 2020, 11:58:37 AM

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on January 31, 2020, 09:37:50 AM

As expected, the match has ended in another boring draw. The Zimbabwean bowlers had 90 plus overs with them, but they failed to bowl out the Sri Lankans. Rain also played a major role in this test match, and this is another example of the climate change affecting cricket schedule. Those who are proposing the 4-day test format needs to explain how they are going to take this factor in to account.

When they saw Test matches ending in three days the ICC board thought that having a 4 day match would be great rather than having the regular 5 days and after the proposal many matches ended in the final day and some of the matches that would have ended in a draw had results and with this in mind i am sure they will rethink about that proposal and they should plan to make more day night Test matches rather than reducing the days.

Well... I have a suggestion here.

In case a test match ends within 3 days, then one ODI match or a T20 match should be scheduled for the 5th day (the 4th day can be used for rest). The cricket fans who purchased tickets for 4th and 5th days of the test match should be allowed free entry to this match. In this way, the board can earn more revenue, and no one will complain about the wastage of time.

I don't think any suggestion like this is going to be accepted by any board or player because its not going to happen they need to contact with insurrance companies hopefully this could be better for them as now these insureance companies can give money if test match is going end in 3 days and if 4 then they will give also something from 5th day.

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Quote from: eaLiTy on January 31, 2020, 11:58:37 AM

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on January 31, 2020, 09:37:50 AM

As expected, the match has ended in another boring draw. The Zimbabwean bowlers had 90 plus overs with them, but they failed to bowl out the Sri Lankans. Rain also played a major role in this test match, and this is another example of the climate change affecting cricket schedule. Those who are proposing the 4-day test format needs to explain how they are going to take this factor in to account.

When they saw Test matches ending in three days the ICC board thought that having a 4 day match would be great rather than having the regular 5 days and after the proposal many matches ended in the final day and some of the matches that would have ended in a draw had results and with this in mind i am sure they will rethink about that proposal and they should plan to make more day night Test matches rather than reducing the days.

Well... I have a suggestion here.

In case a test match ends within 3 days, then one ODI match or a T20 match should be scheduled for the 5th day (the 4th day can be used for rest). The cricket fans who purchased tickets for 4th and 5th days of the test match should be allowed free entry to this match. In this way, the board can earn more revenue, and no one will complain about the wastage of time.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on January 31, 2020, 09:37:50 AM

As expected, the match has ended in another boring draw. The Zimbabwean bowlers had 90 plus overs with them, but they failed to bowl out the Sri Lankans. Rain also played a major role in this test match, and this is another example of the climate change affecting cricket schedule. Those who are proposing the 4-day test format needs to explain how they are going to take this factor in to account.

When they saw Test matches ending in three days the ICC board thought that having a 4 day match would be great rather than having the regular 5 days and after the proposal many matches ended in the final day and some of the matches that would have ended in a draw had results and with this in mind i am sure they will rethink about that proposal and they should plan to make more day night Test matches rather than reducing the days.

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