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Sourav Ganguly became the chief of BCCI. I'm so happy after such a long time.
I guess you are talking T-20 Format -India vs Rest of the World- i think it is schedule in Gujarat, where BCCI rebuilding a biggest stadium and it could be a inaugural match for venue.
But its interesting idea if we think about India vs Rest of the World in Test cricket and same with England - Pakistan in ODI and T-20 format respectively.
India vs ROW? Awesome. Its been so long since I last saw a match like this one. Exciting. Guess PM Modi has something to do with the biggest stadium being built in India for obvious reasons. But its interesting idea if we think about India vs Rest of the World in Test cricket and same with England - Pakistan in ODI and T-20 format respectively.
Pakistan vs Rest of the World looks like troll match if we consider their recent performance against the Sri Lankans.
Pakistan vs Rest of the World is equal to Pakistan vs India these days since they only manage to defeat India once in a blue-moon 
. Guess we will get to watch them next in action during the T-20 World Cup next year. 
Earlier, the Indian players used to participate in county cricket occasionally to get experience on foreign pitches. But now the BCCI is no longer allowing this practice. They feel that if they allow the players to participate in the domestic leagues controlled by the foreign boards, then the BCCI revenues may take a hit. So ideally they should organize B team tours to countries such as England and Australia. But form what I can see, they are not doing that as well.
I am not exact how true this statement is because earlier there were international off season for players to go to England and play county cricket but now the cricket schedule is so tight there is literally no off season as there is cricket round the clock throughout the year and then there is franchise T20 leagues and that is the reason other than the cricket board not allowing due to financial concerns.Your doubts are right. good amount of Indian players play in the county(Eng) games ( only Test players) few names comes into my mind such as Ishant, Pujara, Ajinkya, Pritvi shaw, Ashwin. even kohli was about to play few games there last year but his injury ruined the party.
Even I never come across with this county matches played by the Indians, really good this will help the Indian players play on pitches like England. But according to you most of them are tested players like Pujara, Prithvi show, etc. Even King Kohli went for a county match that is really very good news.
It is good idea to go and play county cricket because you are in touch with the game and play with other opponents and in their country which also gives you leverage to play in other conditions and adjust to that situation other than the homeland.
I think the reason behind is that no pitch in this world offers more help to spinners than the pitches in the Indian subcontinent. The indian spinners who can spin ball both the ways on Indian pitches find themselves amidst a hard situation when on foreign pitches when the balls spins less and they are unable to find the right spot to ball on. I think even the world spinners perform better on Indian pitches. Imraan Taahir who didn't have much reputation of bowling in South Africa built it by bowling here on Indian pitches.
Well... in my opinion, the situation is changing. Earlier we used to have pitches in countries such as South Africa, New Zealand, England and Australia, which used to give huge advantage to the pace bowlers. But such surfaces are getting very rare now. Even the WACA ground at Perth, which used to be regarded as the most pace-friendly surface is getting more flat and giving advantage to the batsmen now.
One reason may be the popularity of the T20 cricket. Many of the legendary pace bowlers have struggled in the T20 format, including James Anderson, Brett Lee, Dale Steyn and Mitchell Johnson. Some of the pacers have proved themselves effective in T20, but most of them are medium pace bowlers (such as Bumrah and Bhuvneshwar Kumar). However, the spinners have found great success in the T20 format.
Earlier, the Indian players used to participate in county cricket occasionally to get experience on foreign pitches. But now the BCCI is no longer allowing this practice. They feel that if they allow the players to participate in the domestic leagues controlled by the foreign boards, then the BCCI revenues may take a hit. So ideally they should organize B team tours to countries such as England and Australia. But form what I can see, they are not doing that as well.
I am not exact how true this statement is because earlier there were international off season for players to go to England and play county cricket but now the cricket schedule is so tight there is literally no off season as there is cricket round the clock throughout the year and then there is franchise T20 leagues and that is the reason other than the cricket board not allowing due to financial concerns.Your doubts are right. good amount of Indian players play in the county(Eng) games ( only Test players) few names comes into my mind such as Ishant, Pujara, Ajinkya, Pritvi shaw, Ashwin. even kohli was about to play few games there last year but his injury ruined the party.
Even I never come across with this county matches played by the Indians, really good this will help the Indian players play on pitches like England. But according to you most of them are tested players like Pujara, Prithvi show, etc. Even King Kohli went for a county match that is really very good news.
Your doubts are right. good amount of Indian players play in the county(Eng) games ( only Test players) few names comes into my mind such as Ishant, Pujara, Ajinkya, Pritvi shaw, Ashwin. even kohli was about to play few games there last year but his injury ruined the party.
It can only enhance the skill set of these players. Players such as Ravichandran Ashwin needs to perform away from Indian pitches, as his performance in England and Australia is not up to the mark. He had a good outing this year with Nottinghamshire, in which he performed well with both bat and ball. I would like the other spinners (especially Yuzvendra Chahal and Kuldeep Yadav) also playing county cricket. Another option is to participate in the Sheffield Shield in Australia, but getting a contract is not going to be easy.
Your doubts are right. good amount of Indian players play in the county(Eng) games ( only Test players) few names comes into my mind such as Ishant, Pujara, Ajinkya, Pritvi shaw, Ashwin. even kohli was about to play few games there last year but his injury ruined the party.
It can only enhance the skill set of these players. Players such as Ravichandran Ashwin needs to perform away from Indian pitches, as his performance in England and Australia is not up to the mark. He had a good outing this year with Nottinghamshire, in which he performed well with both bat and ball. I would like the other spinners (especially Yuzvendra Chahal and Kuldeep Yadav) also playing county cricket. Another option is to participate in the Sheffield Shield in Australia, but getting a contract is not going to be easy.
Earlier, the Indian players used to participate in county cricket occasionally to get experience on foreign pitches. But now the BCCI is no longer allowing this practice. They feel that if they allow the players to participate in the domestic leagues controlled by the foreign boards, then the BCCI revenues may take a hit. So ideally they should organize B team tours to countries such as England and Australia. But form what I can see, they are not doing that as well.
I am not exact how true this statement is because earlier there were international off season for players to go to England and play county cricket but now the cricket schedule is so tight there is literally no off season as there is cricket round the clock throughout the year and then there is franchise T20 leagues and that is the reason other than the cricket board not allowing due to financial concerns.Your doubts are right. good amount of Indian players play in the county(Eng) games ( only Test players) few names comes into my mind such as Ishant, Pujara, Ajinkya, Pritvi shaw, Ashwin. even kohli was about to play few games there last year but his injury ruined the party.
Earlier, the Indian players used to participate in county cricket occasionally to get experience on foreign pitches. But now the BCCI is no longer allowing this practice. They feel that if they allow the players to participate in the domestic leagues controlled by the foreign boards, then the BCCI revenues may take a hit. So ideally they should organize B team tours to countries such as England and Australia. But form what I can see, they are not doing that as well.
I am not exact how true this statement is because earlier there were international off season for players to go to England and play county cricket but now the cricket schedule is so tight there is literally no off season as there is cricket round the clock throughout the year and then there is franchise T20 leagues and that is the reason other than the cricket board not allowing due to financial concerns.There is enough time available with the Indians, as most of the international players such as Virat Kohli and Mahendra Sigh Dhoni never participate in the domestic season. On average, India plays around 30 ODIs, 20 T20s and 7-8 test matches per year. There is enough time for at least short stints of 2-3 weeks in the county cricket. I guess that the players are not interested because the county salaries are much lower when compared to the IPL wages.
I would rather say that the schedule for the Indian cricketers have become more relaxed nowadays. One decade ago, most of the senior players used to participate in 40+ ODI matches and 10+ test matches every year. On top of that, it was not very rare to find players taking part in the domestic competitions, by representing their state sides.
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Pakistan vs Rest of the World looks like troll match if we consider their recent performance against the Sri Lankans.
That's not going to happen unless Pakistan dominates. India is dominating the cricket now with both their batsman and great bowlers.I don't think it will be good idea to have a match on India, it would be fun to outside India as you know India is always king in India.
Earlier, the Indian players used to participate in county cricket occasionally to get experience on foreign pitches. But now the BCCI is no longer allowing this practice. They feel that if they allow the players to participate in the domestic leagues controlled by the foreign boards, then the BCCI revenues may take a hit. So ideally they should organize B team tours to countries such as England and Australia. But form what I can see, they are not doing that as well.
I am not exact how true this statement is because earlier there were international off season for players to go to England and play county cricket but now the cricket schedule is so tight there is literally no off season as there is cricket round the clock throughout the year and then there is franchise T20 leagues and that is the reason other than the cricket board not allowing due to financial concerns. I just read in cricinfo that India is going to play against rest of world for the fantasy cricket. I'm not sure about it like how much true is this because I am reading like the team of the rest of world is being chosen by the editors of cricinfo. Usually that is not the case because those editors are not the selectors for an ICC event. Still, I just want to know opinions from this community so that I may get more info regarding this.
If that is a real news like India is going to play against the rest of world a test cricket match means the chances for winning out while the just players like Steven Smith, Kane Williams and Jofra Archer would be really low even India is a king on their own soil.
If that is a real news like India is going to play against the rest of world a test cricket match means the chances for winning out while the just players like Steven Smith, Kane Williams and Jofra Archer would be really low even India is a king on their own soil.
Seems interesting. I mean the current Indian team is on the good form with so much good consistent players. It will be a thrilling contest to watch the best from the rest of the world and Indian team in a match.
Its just for fun so no problem even if cricinfo editors select the players I guess. I would say somewhere other than Indian ground would be good. I am kinda getting bored watching India's dominance on Indian pitches.
I guess you are talking T-20 Format -India vs Rest of the World- i think it is schedule in Gujarat, where BCCI rebuilding a biggest stadium and it could be a inaugural match for venue.
But its interesting idea if we think about India vs Rest of the World in Test cricket and same with England - Pakistan in ODI and T-20 format respectively.
Pakistan vs Rest of the World looks like troll match if we consider their recent performance against the Sri Lankans.
I am suggesting that India should play a lot more matches abroad to make them familiar with abroad conditions. Right now they are playing out decent in pitches abroad. But won't be cool to watch them dominant in both home and abroad turfs? Watching whitewash just like the recent series in abroad instead of home? 
Earlier, the Indian players used to participate in county cricket occasionally to get experience on foreign pitches. But now the BCCI is no longer allowing this practice. They feel that if they allow the players to participate in the domestic leagues controlled by the foreign boards, then the BCCI revenues may take a hit. So ideally they should organize B team tours to countries such as England and Australia. But form what I can see, they are not doing that as well.
You are getting bored because India is playing against weak teams such as South Africa, Sri Lanka and West Indies. Do you really think that they will be able to repeat the same performance against stronger sides such as Australia and England? This is why I have always supported two divisions in test cricket. India should not be playing against teams such as South Africa very often.
You are looking at it from one aspect. It is also a good for weaker teams from time to time to test themselves against a tougher side. That builds up and develops a site a lot IMO.
But then, we need to look at the grass roots as well. The population of India is around 1.35 billion and cricket remains as the no.1 sport here. On the other hand, teams such as New Zealand have very small population (4 million in case of NZ), and cricket is not the most popular sport there. So obviously you can expect a huge gap in terms of the standards.
True. But I am not taking about that in actual. Playing at home turf and abroad are very different situations. In one you are familiar about your pitches and you don't have to adjust your strategy much. But on abroad you hardly know a stuff about their pitches, a team needs to analyze it properly. The quicker they analyze it ,better it is for them.
I am suggesting that India should play a lot more matches abroad to make them familiar with abroad conditions. Right now they are playing out decent in pitches abroad. But won't be cool to watch them dominant in both home and abroad turfs? Watching whitewash just like the recent series in abroad instead of home?
I am kinda getting bored watching India's dominance on Indian pitches.
You are getting bored because India is playing against weak teams such as South Africa, Sri Lanka and West Indies. Do you really think that they will be able to repeat the same performance against stronger sides such as Australia and England? This is why I have always supported two divisions in test cricket. India should not be playing against teams such as South Africa very often.
But then, we need to look at the grass roots as well. The population of India is around 1.35 billion and cricket remains as the no.1 sport here. On the other hand, teams such as New Zealand have very small population (4 million in case of NZ), and cricket is not the most popular sport there. So obviously you can expect a huge gap in terms of the standards.
I just read in cricinfo that India is going to play against rest of world for the fantasy cricket. I'm not sure about it like how much true is this because I am reading like the team of the rest of world is being chosen by the editors of cricinfo. Usually that is not the case because those editors are not the selectors for an ICC event. Still, I just want to know opinions from this community so that I may get more info regarding this.
If that is a real news like India is going to play against the rest of world a test cricket match means the chances for winning out while the just players like Steven Smith, Kane Williams and Jofra Archer would be really low even India is a king on their own soil.
If that is a real news like India is going to play against the rest of world a test cricket match means the chances for winning out while the just players like Steven Smith, Kane Williams and Jofra Archer would be really low even India is a king on their own soil.
Seems interesting. I mean the current Indian team is on the good form with so much good consistent players. It will be a thrilling contest to watch the best from the rest of the world and Indian team in a match.
Its just for fun so no problem even if cricinfo editors select the players I guess. I would say somewhere other than Indian ground would be good. I am kinda getting bored watching India's dominance on Indian pitches.
I just read in cricinfo that India is going to play against rest of world for the fantasy cricket. I'm not sure about it like how much true is this because I am reading like the team of the rest of world is being chosen by the editors of cricinfo. Usually that is not the case because those editors are not the selectors for an ICC event. Still, I just want to know opinions from this community so that I may get more info regarding this.
If that is a real news like India is going to play against the rest of world a test cricket match means the chances for winning out while the just players like Steven Smith, Kane Williams and Jofra Archer would be really low even India is a king on their own soil.
If that is a real news like India is going to play against the rest of world a test cricket match means the chances for winning out while the just players like Steven Smith, Kane Williams and Jofra Archer would be really low even India is a king on their own soil.
Bangladesh is recently facing a lot of player dissent and their performance during the past few matches were substandard. They lost a test match against Afghanistan on a pitch that was doctored to aid their spinners. I don't think that a team that has lost to Afghanistan at home is capable of challenging India, either in India, or in any other location.
I seriously think that the plan by the Bangladesh cricket board backfired as the pitch was made to help the Bangladesh spinners but they forgot the fact that Afghanistan had a world class spinner in Rashid Khan and Afghanistan won the toss which was another factor for the defeat as Rahmat Shah as usual continued his form and scored runs while Rashid Khan paved the way to the way victory.I can understand if they are preparing such a pitch against India or Australia. But do they think that they need dust-bowls to defeat a team like Afghanistan, and that too at home? If they think like that, then I have a feeling that ICC should do a rethink about their test status. Bangladesh was awarded test status almost two decades back. And to this date, they don't have a big achievement in this format to boast.
For comparison, Afghanistan has fared much better when compared to Bangladesh. When Bangladesh got the test status, Afghanistan wasn't even an associate member of the ICC. But now they are ranked no.7 in the T20 format, and ranked higher than Bangladesh in the other two formats. That means that the Afghans have done something right.
Bangladesh is recently facing a lot of player dissent and their performance during the past few matches were substandard. They lost a test match against Afghanistan on a pitch that was doctored to aid their spinners. I don't think that a team that has lost to Afghanistan at home is capable of challenging India, either in India, or in any other location.
I seriously think that the plan by the Bangladesh cricket board backfired as the pitch was made to help the Bangladesh spinners but they forgot the fact that Afghanistan had a world class spinner in Rashid Khan and Afghanistan won the toss which was another factor for the defeat as Rahmat Shah as usual continued his form and scored runs while Rashid Khan paved the way to the way victory. I agree with this statement and no is able to defeat India in their home country, the only challenge i see is India touring England, Australia and New Zealand and then we will have a battle, Bangladesh have zero chance to win a match as Afghanistan recently defeated them and i lost some amount betting for Bangladesh and hence in the current form there is no way i am betting for Bangladesh to win, i am expecting a one sided trashing.
Bangladesh is recently facing a lot of player dissent and their performance during the past few matches were substandard. They lost a test match against Afghanistan on a pitch that was doctored to aid their spinners. I don't think that a team that has lost to Afghanistan at home is capable of challenging India, either in India, or in any other location.
Unfortunately, the same can be said about many of the other test sides, such as Sri Lanka, South Africa, West Indies and Pakistan. Their standards have gone down during the past few years and the gap between them and the big three sides (India, England and Australia) have widened. Only New Zealand is performing well among the teams outside the big three.
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