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Quote from: AB de Royse777 on August 14, 2019, 11:23:07 AM

The whole day washed away. Even the toss did not happen. So if they can start the match tomorrow then this will be a 4 day Test match. May be we will be looking forward to a draw Test. Good for Australia but not for England. Australia already have 1 - 0 lead of the series.

There were three international matches today. Two test matches and one ODI. The test match between England and Australia got washed out, while the one between New Zealand and Sri Lanka was disrupted by rain after a good start. And as per the latest information, the ODI match between India and West Indies may also get washed away.

Final score: Rain-3, Cricket-0.

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The whole day washed away. Even the toss did not happen. So if they can start the match tomorrow then this will be a 4 day Test match. May be we will be looking forward to a draw Test. Good for Australia but not for England. Australia already have 1 - 0 lead of the series.

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Match delayed due to rain which means again the team batting first would have an advantage. Already over 2 hours of play have been lost which means less overs will be played. Hope England choose to bat first.

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The toss for the second test match of the Ashes series has been delayed due to rain. I hope that rain, after ruining the World Cup, doesn't ruin the Ashes series as well! Roll Eyes

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Quote from: Raja_MBZ on August 13, 2019, 05:20:11 PM

It seems like Moeen Ali is going to take a "nice short break from cricket" after being dropped for the 2nd test match of the Ashes:

Moeen Ali: England & Worcestershire all-rounder to take short break after Test omission

https://www.bbc.com/sport/cricket/49329927

Good move. His form has been pretty horrible recently and this break might help him retain his form in the near future. In my opinion, England needs to give newbie spinners a chance here in order to test their mettle.

I agree.

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Quote from: AB de Royse777 on August 13, 2019, 02:20:01 PM

Have we all forgot about Sri Lanka vs New Zealand test series? Two test series. We will see how Sri Lanka challenge the world cup finalist.

Everyone has a choice. For many test cricket fans its low buzz series. I am not watching live as well just keeping a tab on the score.

As of now, Kiwis are struggling at 71/3. They had a good start of 60+ runs, but 3 quick wickets by spinner Dananjaya turn the tide in favor of SriLankan.

Sri Lanka vs New Zealand test series is not some thing like England Vs Aussies Ashes series and hence it will not draw much attention other then the people of NZ and srilanka, who would like to watch this series.
Secondly no one has the time to click to the TV for 8 hours daily just to watch a test match.

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Quote from: Raja_MBZ on August 13, 2019, 05:20:11 PM

It seems like Moeen Ali is going to take a "nice short break from cricket" after being dropped for the 2nd test match of the Ashes:

Moeen Ali: England & Worcestershire all-rounder to take short break after Test omission

https://www.bbc.com/sport/cricket/49329927

Good move. His form has been pretty horrible recently and this break might help him retain his form in the near future. In my opinion, England needs to give newbie spinners a chance here in order to test their mettle.

Quote from: vella85 on August 13, 2019, 05:57:56 PM

I keep seeing people here talking about England being World Champions however that is for ODI and test match cricket is a lot different and the team is not the same. It doesn't matter that they won the World Cup, test match cricket is not the same and the Ashes is the biggest in test match cricket so Australia was always going to be up for the challenge and maybe England got carried away after winning the World Cup. I still think England will bounce back in the series and even win the Ashes back from Australia only because Australia hasn't performed all that well in England in past years. I just know that we are in for an entertaining series ahead and if England can win the second test it will be very interesting to see how it all plays out.

I completely agree. Test match Cricket is a different ball game altogether. This will probably go down to the wire unless the England players loses their composure. My bet is on England to take the 2nd test.

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Quote from: AB de Royse777 on August 13, 2019, 02:20:01 PM

Have we all forgot about Sri Lanka vs New Zealand test series? Two test series. We will see how Sri Lanka challenge the world cup finalist.

Everyone has a choice. For many test cricket fans its low buzz series. I am not watching live as well just keeping a tab on the score.

As of now, Kiwis are struggling at 71/3. They had a good start of 60+ runs, but 3 quick wickets by spinner Dananjaya turn the tide in favor of SriLankan.

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Quote from: Haunebu on August 13, 2019, 03:03:12 AM

My bet is on England or a draw for the 2nd test match. Australia is heavily dependent on Smith currently and I think they might be in trouble if Smith departs early this time around.

Me too. England have their homeland advantage too. Out of 5 tests, they should win atleast three so first one going bad is fine. They have more reliable batsmen than Australia currently. They should choose to bat first though to understand the wicket.

I think we cannot be sure of who will win the 2nd test match between England and Australia. The last test was pretty much even till the forth day.
Both teams are strong and it will depend on them on how they start the first innings. The team who start to dominate early will have more chances of winning.

Playing test matches in England is never been easy for any team first test was poised fourth day otherwise first 3 days was completed dominant by England now we are heading for Lords here England's personal record is never been good but now England is is do or die situation so we can expect very tough competition from them and this is going to be very interesting match beyond the result.

Adding to this is that England are also the world champions and they now have a different level of confidence. This Ashes series should belong to them although they did faced the first defeat in the first test match. I think England will come up strongly in the 2nd test.

I keep seeing people here talking about England being World Champions however that is for ODI and test match cricket is a lot different and the team is not the same. It doesn't matter that they won the World Cup, test match cricket is not the same and the Ashes is the biggest in test match cricket so Australia was always going to be up for the challenge and maybe England got carried away after winning the World Cup. I still think England will bounce back in the series and even win the Ashes back from Australia only because Australia hasn't performed all that well in England in past years. I just know that we are in for an entertaining series ahead and if England can win the second test it will be very interesting to see how it all plays out.

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Quote from: eaLiTy on August 12, 2019, 10:29:19 AM

Quote from: Haunebu on August 12, 2019, 06:25:15 AM

They have been known to bounce back after losses which is why I am expecting the same in this 2nd test match. A draw is also a possibility.

I hope England could bounce back in the second test, they were on top most of the time in the first innings but they never capitalized their good start and was able to build a good first innings lead, the English batsmen has to perform well if they are to win the test match and they will be including Jofra Archer in the team instead of the injured James Anderson and they might leave Moeen Ali out. I am still expecting Australia to win the test match as Smith is back in form and Lyon is bowling well and the toss is important.

It seems like Moeen Ali is going to take a "nice short break from cricket" after being dropped for the 2nd test match of the Ashes:

Moeen Ali: England & Worcestershire all-rounder to take short break after Test omission

https://www.bbc.com/sport/cricket/49329927

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Quote from: AB de Royse777 on August 13, 2019, 02:20:01 PM

Have we all forgot about Sri Lanka vs New Zealand test series? Two test series. We will see how Sri Lanka challenge the world cup finalist.

Test match is always different and the venue is also important, if New Zealand is facing Srilanka in their homeland then it would be a battle for the New Zealand team as the pitch favors spin and toss is yet another important factor as none can bat longer in the fourth innings in turning tracks of Srilanka.
But if it is the other way around then i would not mind placing a full on bet on NZ to win, I have to look at the odds to place a bet in this match.

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Quote from: erikalui on August 13, 2019, 09:25:55 AM

Quote from: Haunebu on August 13, 2019, 03:03:12 AM

My bet is on England or a draw for the 2nd test match. Australia is heavily dependent on Smith currently and I think they might be in trouble if Smith departs early this time around.

Me too. England have their homeland advantage too. Out of 5 tests, they should win atleast three so first one going bad is fine. They have more reliable batsmen than Australia currently. They should choose to bat first though to understand the wicket.

Well I have no interest in Match but after getting in gambling now i like it and i mostly watch it on YouTube so I can fully enjoy and in test matches I know one should give the best performance both are good teams and batting needs perfection so the bats man should be confidential and well aware of all cricket rules.

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Have we all forgot about Sri Lanka vs New Zealand test series? Two test series. We will see how Sri Lanka challenge the world cup finalist.

Quote from: FIFA worldcup on August 13, 2019, 02:09:06 PM

How the first three days were dominated by England ?

England dominated the first few hours of the first test when they took 8 wicket very quickly. And then the test was uncertain till the end of the third day. Everyone was expecting England will take few wickets in the 1st season of the 4th day but it was an excellent session for Australia and that was when the test turned to Australian's favor.

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My bet is on England or a draw for the 2nd test match. Australia is heavily dependent on Smith currently and I think they might be in trouble if Smith departs early this time around.

Me too. England have their homeland advantage too. Out of 5 tests, they should win atleast three so first one going bad is fine. They have more reliable batsmen than Australia currently. They should choose to bat first though to understand the wicket.

I think we cannot be sure of who will win the 2nd test match between England and Australia. The last test was pretty much even till the forth day.
Both teams are strong and it will depend on them on how they start the first innings. The team who start to dominate early will have more chances of winning.

Playing test matches in England is never been easy for any team first test was poised fourth day otherwise first 3 days was completed dominant by England now we are heading for Lords here England's personal record is never been good but now England is is do or die situation so we can expect very tough competition from them and this is going to be very interesting match beyond the result.

How the first three days were dominated by England ?
Aussie managed to get a decent score and England despite of a good start were struggling to take a big lead. From there onward they had no clue on how Aussies manage to get a lead in 2nd innings and England batsmen couldn't bear the scorecard pressure in the last innings and were completely outclass by the Aussies.

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Quote from: Indymoney on August 13, 2019, 01:35:02 PM

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Quote from: erikalui on August 13, 2019, 09:25:55 AM

Quote from: Haunebu on August 13, 2019, 03:03:12 AM

My bet is on England or a draw for the 2nd test match. Australia is heavily dependent on Smith currently and I think they might be in trouble if Smith departs early this time around.

Me too. England have their homeland advantage too. Out of 5 tests, they should win atleast three so first one going bad is fine. They have more reliable batsmen than Australia currently. They should choose to bat first though to understand the wicket.

I think we cannot be sure of who will win the 2nd test match between England and Australia. The last test was pretty much even till the forth day.
Both teams are strong and it will depend on them on how they start the first innings. The team who start to dominate early will have more chances of winning.

Playing test matches in England is never been easy for any team first test was poised fourth day otherwise first 3 days was completed dominant by England now we are heading for Lords here England's personal record is never been good but now England is is do or die situation so we can expect very tough competition from them and this is going to be very interesting match beyond the result.

Adding to this is that England are also the world champions and they now have a different level of confidence. This Ashes series should belong to them although they did faced the first defeat in the first test match. I think England will come up strongly in the 2nd test.

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Quote from: Haunebu on August 13, 2019, 03:03:12 AM

My bet is on England or a draw for the 2nd test match. Australia is heavily dependent on Smith currently and I think they might be in trouble if Smith departs early this time around.

Me too. England have their homeland advantage too. Out of 5 tests, they should win atleast three so first one going bad is fine. They have more reliable batsmen than Australia currently. They should choose to bat first though to understand the wicket.

I think we cannot be sure of who will win the 2nd test match between England and Australia. The last test was pretty much even till the forth day.
Both teams are strong and it will depend on them on how they start the first innings. The team who start to dominate early will have more chances of winning.

Playing test matches in England is never been easy for any team first test was poised fourth day otherwise first 3 days was completed dominant by England now we are heading for Lords here England's personal record is never been good but now England is is do or die situation so we can expect very tough competition from them and this is going to be very interesting match beyond the result.

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Quote from: erikalui on August 13, 2019, 09:25:55 AM

Quote from: Haunebu on August 13, 2019, 03:03:12 AM

My bet is on England or a draw for the 2nd test match. Australia is heavily dependent on Smith currently and I think they might be in trouble if Smith departs early this time around.

Me too. England have their homeland advantage too. Out of 5 tests, they should win atleast three so first one going bad is fine. They have more reliable batsmen than Australia currently. They should choose to bat first though to understand the wicket.

I think we cannot be sure of who will win the 2nd test match between England and Australia. The last test was pretty much even till the forth day.
Both teams are strong and it will depend on them on how they start the first innings. The team who start to dominate early will have more chances of winning.

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Quote from: AB de Royse777 on August 13, 2019, 04:05:18 AM

Without Roy England betting line up was a mess in the middle of the tournament. I think they had to bring back Roy early to save their WC mission even he was not fit 100%.

It was a fact that Roy was their lucky charm as England need him in the team for them to win and when he was out injured they were struggling even with a strong batting line up and lost a couple of matches which i was not expecting, you had some big losses betting for England with low odds Undecided

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Quote from: AB de Royse777 on August 13, 2019, 04:05:18 AM

There are concerns in Australia's batting line up however I think they will win. I will go for Austral to win or the worse will be a draw.

Smith is continuing his prime form in test matches and he is the main stay for Australia and if Warner and Usman Khawaja returns to form then it is trouble for England, the problem with is that England does not have any classic test players who have the patience to stay in the crease for a long time.

They were all playing fine until the second innings where they rattled on quickly. I don't think England have players who will keep on doing the same mistakes and would be a rather more cautious side in the next.

Most of them actually have a decent share of test experience since they play those county cricket games whenever they are not picked for international duty. Though it's a different level when you play at international but still they should have strategies in their pocket to workout when team is at pretty bad shape at a point.

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Quote from: AB de Royse777 on August 13, 2019, 04:05:18 AM

Without Roy England betting line up was a mess in the middle of the tournament. I think they had to bring back Roy early to save their WC mission even he was not fit 100%.

It was a fact that Roy was their lucky charm as England need him in the team for them to win and when he was out injured they were struggling even with a strong batting line up and lost a couple of matches which i was not expecting, you had some big losses betting for England with low odds Undecided

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Quote from: AB de Royse777 on August 13, 2019, 04:05:18 AM

There are concerns in Australia's batting line up however I think they will win. I will go for Austral to win or the worse will be a draw.

Smith is continuing his prime form in test matches and he is the main stay for Australia and if Warner and Usman Khawaja returns to form then it is trouble for England, the problem with is that England does not have any classic test players who have the patience to stay in the crease for a long time.

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Quote from: Haunebu on August 13, 2019, 03:03:12 AM

My bet is on England or a draw for the 2nd test match. Australia is heavily dependent on Smith currently and I think they might be in trouble if Smith departs early this time around.

Me too. England have their homeland advantage too. Out of 5 tests, they should win atleast three so first one going bad is fine. They have more reliable batsmen than Australia currently. They should choose to bat first though to understand the wicket.

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Quote from: Avirunes on August 12, 2019, 10:56:31 AM

Quote from: JSRAW on August 12, 2019, 10:41:53 AM

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Hard to see that Starc will be coming back. Don't see Aussie bowlers finding it difficult to bowl to English batsman. I think current bowling attack is quite good enough.

It true that competition is hard in the Oz's bowling camp, but one can't deny the fact that during the first test match couple of OZ bowlers were looking helpless on many occasion ( first inning).

I have to agree with @Vella about starc and its tough situation for selectors because siddle looking fresh and good as well. But if starc comes in then, Siddle might sit out from the squad.

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Quote from: JSRAW on August 12, 2019, 10:41:53 AM

Why was Starc not selected in the first test match.

Cutthroat/healthy competition among pace battery.

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