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Quote from: ene1980 on August 30, 2019, 09:45:27 AM

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One more doubt is that, is there a rule change in Test cricket that they can have a substitute player if someone is injured, during Ashes second Test i saw Marnus Labuschagne coming in to bat instead of Smith as he was injured and i did not see them announcing the 12th man, can they select anyone in the squad randomly, anyone having any idea regarding that.

Yeah, this is new rule under only concussion replacement - suspected concussion replacement. where substitute can bat, ball or WK in this scenario

ICC Approves Like-for-like Substitution for Concussion in All International Cricket

Quote from: Little Mouse on August 30, 2019, 10:03:39 AM

Edit- Is that me who got the wicket Grin

Haha tell me about it Cheesy

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Big man got his first wicket. India are two down now.

Poor Pujara, losing his form against Windies, despite winning the battle against OZ fast battery

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on August 30, 2019, 10:09:02 AM

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Sky Sports have made live streaming available for free, to global audience.

Is that same Sky Sports who refused to show Opening Pre Match show in the beginning of the Ashes. anyway thanks to Ben Stokes's inning now they are airing everything free, win for cricket lovers.

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India vs West Indies:

India lost one wicket, Holder was the man and it was an easy catch for new comer Cornwall. That guy can ball too. He is huge!

Edit: Agarwal is charging him.

Quote from: Avirunes on August 30, 2019, 10:27:59 AM

Maybe he is not feeling like playing like in Ashes or putting it up hard on himself. That's the side some player has when they know a big match or competition is coming up ahead and not to push hard when you just got recovered.

Yeah it's a practice match. There are no need to take it seriously. Smith will be needed in the 4th test. I hope Warner gets some run too.

Edit2:
Big man got his first wicket. India are two down now.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on August 30, 2019, 10:09:02 AM

Steve Smith scored just 23 runs and was out to spin bowler Matt Critchley.

Maybe he is not feeling like playing like in Ashes or putting it up hard on himself. That's the side some player has when they know a big match or competition is coming up ahead and not to push hard when you just got recovered.

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on August 30, 2019, 10:09:02 AM

Now the match has become too boring, and Marnus Labuschagne is scoring at snail's pace. Anyone who want to watch the match check this link:

Well that's the Test. They have a very good advantage against Derby btw. Even if they score 500 if Bancroft and Labuschagne stays taking the whole 3rd day, you know they still are in advantage with the bowling unit they have packed up for this match.

That's the beauty of English vs Aussies cricket isn't it.. I mean the strategies Cheesy

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Steve Smith scored just 23 runs and was out to spin bowler Matt Critchley. Looks like he hasn't fully recovered from the injury that he suffered during the second test. This is a three day match, and the chances are that Australia will not bat again. Now the match has become too boring, and Marnus Labuschagne is scoring at snail's pace. Anyone who want to watch the match check this link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCnGgEKG8as

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Quote from: JSRAW on August 30, 2019, 09:14:48 AM

Pitch is looking green Cheesy

so don't hold your breath for the first hour if you are an Indian fan. I am hoping for a good contest between Bat and Ball at least for the first Hour.

Both Agarwal and Rahul seems to confidence. WI can't use the chance of taking some a few wickets earlier with new ball. Gabriel is spending too much per over, 20 from 3 overs, my god.

Edit- Is that me who got the wicket Grin

Rahul gone.

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Quote from: JSRAW on August 30, 2019, 09:14:48 AM

@Vishnu the Weather man Grin

Taking into weather into consideration i will go for draw no bet rather than going for the win, who knows about the weather. West Indies won the toss and elected to ball.

One more doubt is that, is there a rule change in Test cricket that they can have a substitute player if someone is injured, during Ashes second Test i saw Marnus Labuschagne coming in to bat instead of Smith as he was injured and i did not see them announcing the 12th man, can they select anyone in the squad randomly, anyone having any idea regarding that.

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@Vishnu the Weather man Grin

Ind vs WI

Windies again won the good toss, and they chose to field first. India went with their Winning combination, so no change in playing XI and Windies has a couple of Changes.

Pitch is looking green Cheesy

so don't hold your breath for the first hour if you are an Indian fan. I am hoping for a good contest between Bat and Ball at least for the first Hour.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on August 30, 2019, 08:39:29 AM

OK.... I just want to give a weather update for the fourth test. Rain is predicted for the first 3 days and there is good chance of a passing shower during the 4th day. 5th day should be cloudy, but devoid of rains.

Sep 4: Chances of precipitation - 60%
Sep 5: Chances of precipitation - 64%
Sep 6: Chances of precipitation - 73%
Sep 7: Chances of precipitation - 49%
Sep 8: Chances of precipitation - 16%

(source: accuweather.com)

Okay in this case draw no bet is the safe pick or if your bookies have "win or draw" market then go for it. Odds will be a little less but it worth picking that market. Problem with "draw no bet" is that if a match indeed end up with draw then you do not get much in return.

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OK.... I just want to give a weather update for the fourth test. Rain is predicted for the first 3 days and there is good chance of a passing shower during the 4th day. 5th day should be cloudy, but devoid of rains.

Sep 4: Chances of precipitation - 60%
Sep 5: Chances of precipitation - 64%
Sep 6: Chances of precipitation - 73%
Sep 7: Chances of precipitation - 49%
Sep 8: Chances of precipitation - 16%

(source: accuweather.com)

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Quote from: ene1980 on August 30, 2019, 04:36:38 AM

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You made a call for England to win the match and somehow they magically won the match and that too with the help of botched umpiring decisions and Australia taking a replay for a bowl pitched well outside leg stump and if they did not take that replay they could have used that when the umpires denied a straight LBW decision. The odds are great to ignore and i am willing to go along with you on this one Wink

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I was siding for England last time because Smith was missing from Australian squad but since Smith is back, I think it will be hard for England to beat them. On top of it, if Starc plays then it will be much easier for Australia to win.

Yeah, even though Smith was not there - English team could not take advantage of it instead they were in the back seat all the time in the last test. No one expected the win but it was miraculous. I was not proud of my pick but was surprised to see it a win.

The latest tip is for straight wins however if you want then you can go with draw no bet too. It's much safer, just in case there are rain. You can not always trust English weather. Odd will not that bad too.
Australia to win (draw no bet)
India to win (draw no bet)
@2.43

Good luck.

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Steve Smith has started solidly against Derbyshire, and currently he is batting along with Mitchell Marsh. This match should be a cakewalk for Australia, as Derbyshire has been historically one of the weakest English county sides. Look out for 18-year old Hamidullah Qadri. He was born in Afghanistan, and we may soon find him in international cricket.

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Quote from: AB de Royse777 on August 29, 2019, 11:42:29 AM

Okay I would like to go for a 2 fold since India vs WI is starting from tomorrow, less than 24 hours left.
India vs West Indies: India
England vs Australia: Australia
Odd @ 3.41

You made a call for England to win the match and somehow they magically won the match and that too with the help of botched umpiring decisions and Australia taking a replay for a bowl pitched well outside leg stump and if they did not take that replay they could have used that when the umpires denied a straight LBW decision. The odds are great to ignore and i am willing to go along with you on this one Wink

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Quote from: AB de Royse777 on August 29, 2019, 11:42:29 AM

Okay I would like to go for a 2 fold since India vs WI is starting from tomorrow, less than 24 hours left.

India vs West Indies: India
England vs Australia: Australia

Odd @ 3.41

I would choose the bets(With draw included) in order to earn a higher payout in this case. Also, I agree with your picks and am expecting big wins by both India and Australia.

Quote from: romero121 on August 30, 2019, 12:59:20 AM

As like Indian Cricket Board there might be some internal politics which has kept Starc out of the last three matches. As said Starc is a strong player to take away the end wickets, but I don't think his presence could've taken the wicket of Stokes. The entire team has been targeting him, and at some point he started aggressive game, by that time he could've caught or bowled and send to the pavilion.

I don't think internal politics has anything to do with his omission. I think that he himself chose to sit on the bench or the committee decided by themselves in order to provide more opportunities to bowlers like Pattinson etc.

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Quote from: AB de Royse777 on August 29, 2019, 12:10:23 PM

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on August 29, 2019, 12:02:37 PM

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I couldn't watch the game, but from the scorecard it looks like Mitchell Starc cleaned up the lower order in very quick time. He took 3 wickets in a single over, to finish with 46/3. I want Australia to go for the 4th test with four pacers (Starc, Cummins, Hazlewood and Siddle), with part time spin from Marnus Labuschagne and Steven Smith as the slower options.

I was always missing Starc in the last three matches. If Starc were there then may be we would not see Australia to lose the last test. Starc is very good to wrap up the tail enders quickly. It's beyond my imagination that why did the management lost confidence from Starc. I hope to see him in the next Test.

As like Indian Cricket Board there might be some internal politics which has kept Starc out of the last three matches. As said Starc is a strong player to take away the end wickets, but I don't think his presence could've taken the wicket of Stokes. The entire team has been targeting him, and at some point he started aggressive game, by that time he could've caught or bowled and send to the pavilion.

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So everyone agrees that Starc needs to be included in the playing XI for the 4th test. It was very unfair to him, to be overlooked in favor of James Pattinson and Peter Siddle. Both Pattinson and Siddle performed well during patches, but on few occasions they were able to break an established partnership. They conceded a lot of runs against the English lower order as well.

Australia made the mistake by including just one spinner in their squad. They should have included Adam Zampa as well. As I can see, Nathan Lyon has been performing very poorly for the last two matches and even then he'll get a slot in the playing XI for the next match. I would recommend Australia dropping Lyon and going with 4 pacers.

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Quote from: AB de Royse777 on August 29, 2019, 12:10:23 PM

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on August 29, 2019, 12:02:37 PM

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I couldn't watch the game, but from the scorecard it looks like Mitchell Starc cleaned up the lower order in very quick time. He took 3 wickets in a single over, to finish with 46/3. I want Australia to go for the 4th test with four pacers (Starc, Cummins, Hazlewood and Siddle), with part time spin from Marnus Labuschagne and Steven Smith as the slower options.

I was always missing Starc in the last three matches. If Starc were there then may be we would not see Australia to lose the last test. Starc is very good to wrap up the tail enders quickly. It's beyond my imagination that why did the management lost confidence from Starc. I hope to see him in the next Test.

Like I have been saying for the past week, Strac has to play in the fourth test match as he is one bowler who can change a game fast. Forget about Siddle and Pattinson as they have been okay but don't have the x-factor that Strac has. Strac is one of the best Australian bowlers for cleaning up the tail so for me he must come into the team.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on August 29, 2019, 12:02:37 PM

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I couldn't watch the game, but from the scorecard it looks like Mitchell Starc cleaned up the lower order in very quick time. He took 3 wickets in a single over, to finish with 46/3. I want Australia to go for the 4th test with four pacers (Starc, Cummins, Hazlewood and Siddle), with part time spin from Marnus Labuschagne and Steven Smith as the slower options.

I was always missing Starc in the last three matches. If Starc were there then may be we would not see Australia to lose the last test. Starc is very good to wrap up the tail enders quickly. It's beyond my imagination that why did the management lost confidence from Starc. I hope to see him in the next Test.

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I would agree with the prediction by Royse for both the matches. But I would be closely watching Smith's (batting) performance during the warm up match. I want to make sure that the small break didn't made him rusty. One interesting thing is that Australia gave chance to all their bench bowlers, and that means that Starc, Marsh and Neser are playing along with Siddle. They went for an all pace attack.

I couldn't watch the game, but from the scorecard it looks like Mitchell Starc cleaned up the lower order in very quick time. He took 3 wickets in a single over, to finish with 46/3. I want Australia to go for the 4th test with four pacers (Starc, Cummins, Hazlewood and Siddle), with part time spin from Marnus Labuschagne and Steven Smith as the slower options.

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Okay I would like to go for a 2 fold since India vs WI is starting from tomorrow, less than 24 hours left.

India vs West Indies: India
England vs Australia: Australia

Odd @ 3.41

I am considering Smith is going to play.

Interestingly the bookies are favoring England. They may have a chance but I do not think it's much than Australia. The last Test was in their (Australia's) grip all the time except Stokes monster innings at the end that changed the result.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on August 28, 2019, 10:37:01 PM

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Also did anyone here see the banter between Warne and Prior it was funny, and if England wins it I’m expecting Prior to once again target Warne and Lyon.

Lol yeah enjoyed it very much.

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on August 29, 2019, 09:36:06 AM

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Yes. Steve Smith will be part of the playing XI for the 4th test. You can check this:

https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/18659/scorecard/1169534/derbyshire-vs-australians-tour-match-australia-in-eng-2019

He is currently part of the playing XI in the warm up match against Derbyshire. So in all probability,

Not commenting on if he's playing or not in the next test match. but here i noticed their professionalism and dedication when it comes to Test Cricket. in between breaks they are playing warm-up match. can't say the same for any other Test playing nation.

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