Topic: Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod] - page 324. (Read 125179 times)

@Sithara007 the ICC has not bothered in so many years about this issue, so what makes you think that they’ll suddenly care about reducing funds for Zimbabwe?. Furthermore the start of the third day seems to be delayed, and I don’t think that Zimbabwe can escape with a draw hence it’s clear that a big humiliating defeat is coming their way.

Zimbabwe hasn't done much to justify their test status during the last one or two decades. Their performance have been on constant downslide ever since Andy Flower and Henry Olonga rebelled during the 2003 World Cup, which triggered the flight of players to Australia and England. Now the question is how the ICC can keep the annual fund allocation to Zimbabwe ($12 million per year, or $96 million in total for the 2015-23 cycle) much higher than that of teams such as Scotland and Netherlands, who have performed consistently better with 1/20th of the funds that Zimbabweans receive.

Such matches are very boring to enjoy. And I think the attendance in these matches is very low. Both matches were completely one-sided. Compared to West Indies, the Zimbabwe team was very weak both in batting and bowling. Zimbabwe suffered a humiliating defeat in the first match. Their performance deteriorated further in the second match. The general audience does not like such one-sided matches. It would have been more exciting and enjoyable if it had been an ODI series. The ICC should consider the overall situation of the parties. As a result of such one-sided matches, we are averse to cricket.

West Indies already have a lead of 175 runs, and there is a good chance that they may not be required to bat again. Zimbabwe once again proved that they are competitive only when Sikandar Raza is in the team. But he is participating in the PSL, so can't rescue them this time around (BTW he played his last test match for Zimbabwe almost 2 years ago). My advice to Zimbabwe would be to restrict themselves in test format against teams such as Ireland. If they play against the tier-1 test nations, due to the gap in player skills the matches will turn out to be too much one-sided.

So far this series has served it's purpose to improve the personal stats of some of the players. Tagenarine Chanderpaul and Gudakesh Motie would be happy about what they have achieved so far. But the ICC needs to take in to account these mismatches. They need to decide whether Zimbabwe should be allowed to play in test format, against tier-1 countries.

Just the second day of the match over and West Indies already leading by 179 runs is really good. The match is in control of the West Indies team. Tomorrow somehow West Indies will end its innings with 200+ runs lead. Zimbabwe to the maximum could score 300 runs and the same too a dream. Probably the match reaches the result by the fourth day.

Today lost nearly 45 overs but still conditions are under control as west Indies is doing good job and having 175 runs lead which can go till 200 as Holder is still at crease with Gudakesh Motie and these both done good job with this all now West Indies is on driving seat and having chance for win this second test match and series which is good for them before heading for their tour of South Africa for the two test matches.

After winning toss Zimbabwean choose to bat first which was nightmare for them as 27 years old from Guyana Gudakesh Motie ruin their all batting and having amazing figure of 7/37 in his second test match and bowled out home team under 115 after this impressive bowling West Indies having 290 for 8 after end of two days play which is going them good edge for winning this match.

Zimbabwe had luckily scored well in the first innings of the previous test match. They had lost their 7th wicket in 192 runs. Then they added 187 more runs in the 8th and 9th wicket partnership. They would have lost the match if the first two days weren't affected by the rain. Looks like West Indies will easily win the second test match. I just placed a bet on West Indies to win with 1.34× odds.

It is not only in batting that we see Zimbabwe's weakness. The performance of the bowlers is also not very good. West Indies players managed to collect 290 runs. West Indies batsmen Raymond, Roston and Joshua batted well. West Indies are likely to lose all their wickets in the first session tomorrow. And will lead by around 190-200 runs. And as Zimbabwe have shown performance in the first innings, if they bat like this, they will not be able to collect 200 runs. However, like the first match, the second Test match is going to be completely one-sided.

West Indies were able to collect 290 runs by losing 8 wickets. Since the descent of 175 has already managed to take a lead West Indies. It looks like they will get an easy win in this match. The main reason for this is that Zimbabwe's batsmen are not playing well now. There is no experienced batsman in the team. So I think it is unlikely that Zimbabwe will score 200 runs in the second innings. My guess is if West Indies manage to take a lead of 220 runs, they will be able to beat Zimbabwe by innings.

West Indies is already leading by 175 runs. So it is obviously not going to be easy at all for Zimbabwe to even draw this test match. With the conditions and also the rain, the pitch has become a lot more friendly to bowlers. So when West Indies eventually end their innings, Zimbabwe is going to find it really hard to actually score on this track.

And with a trial like this, Zimbabwe will find it even hard to concentrate on this match. I also agree that only 115  from the first innings was not going to be enough for Zimbabwe to actually be competitive in this test match.

So it was due to rain. I was wondering why West indies were 290 on day 2, there overnight score was 135. Still Zimbabwe is in trouble as West Indies have lead of 175 runs with 2 wickets and 3 days play left. Zimbabwe batting performance was impressive only in first innings of first test (as you mentioned) the subsequent 2 innings showed a complete failure of Zimbabwe batting lineup.
Zimbabwe will be in much better position in this test if they have scored around 225 or 250. It will be tough for Zimbabwe to save this match from here.

He won't come near the T-20 setup anytime soon unless he scores a fair amount of runs with high SR (important). His ODI spot looks okay as he can always bat in the middle with the gloves on.

Regarding our previous conversation on Draw results. Dharamshala venue is canceled and now the venue for 3rd test is Indore so there might be a slight chance of draw.

We are used to seeing them lose matches. But did you see the last game? The way they batted in the first innings of the first match, they could have won the last match against west indies. Craig Ervine is the most experienced player on their team. Innocent Kaia is not the only player who has the ability to bat well. Gary Ballance scored an unbeaten 137. Even No nine batter Brandon Mavuta scored an unbelievable 56 runs from 132 balls. The game has already stopped due to rain. I guess it's helping Zimbabwe's side.

Lol. Your points make sense, but his recent marriage could help improve his form in the T-20 and ODI formats which is why he shouldn't be sidelined anytime soon. He just needs to perform well consistently asap in order to retain his spot.

Also, I guess the coffee was really, really good which is why he was enjoying it on the sideline .

Only 3 batsmen managed to collect more than 20 runs in the Zimbabwe team. Besides, 7 batsmen of the team could not collect up to 3 runs. It is not possible for any team to collect big with such bad batting. Apart from Innocent Kaia, I don't see any experienced batsman in the Zimbabwe team. They batted very badly. Probably we will see the result of this match in 3 days. The Zimbabwean team is going to face another defeat.

The batting failure of some of the players of the Zimbabwe team basically hindered their big scoring. Tanunurwa Makoni he returned 0 runs from 24 balls. Milton Shumba returns 3 runs from 8 balls. Tafadzwa Tsiga he returned 0 runs from 11 balls. W Masakadza collected 1 run, Brandon Mavuta 1 run, Nyauchi 1 run, Tanaka Chivanga 6 runs. Where 7 players fail in the match so the team naturally will be fallen in disaster.

KL is an opener in Tests so a comparison with Pant is not right, ODI is a different thing and atm all anger about his test form. Gill is in hot form and he's warming the bench. Mayank is another competitor for opening in the subcontinent. The likes of Mayank were also dropped after a couple of failures and he went back to Ranji and scored tons of runs recently, his runs came a bit late tho.

Another good talent Sarfaraz is nowhere around the Indian squad despite performing regularly, although he's middle-order batter.

Regarding his Vice Captaincy, IMO he shouldn't be near any captaincy role. KL has already played close to 50 tests and still averaging in mid-30s. IDK how many chances he needs, if management wants to keep him close to the squad then keep him during away tours. In the subcontinent, there are countless openers in Ranji who can outbat him even on their worst day.

KL Rahul is the captain of a big franchise so there is a lot of branding and packaging type of bullshit is going on.

After his WC performance, he should be kicked from the T-20 squad. In ODI he's good but only if he's in the middle order with the gloves.

He's a very beautiful stroke player when he's on a song but tbh he always looks so depressing, scared and under pressure and it's actually hurting the team.

He's vice captain but i have never seen him discussing anything with the senior players. In a recent match Puji, Virat, Rohit and the spinners were in deep discussion and this BKL guy was sipping the coffee on the sideline.

I do not understand why other veterans are afraid to speak the truth. Financially everyone is very stable considering the amount of money they get paid as pension after retirement. The board won't dare to stop their pension if they speak against those who are always in the mode of licking the ass or constantly support those players who are not performing. India does not have a talent crunch in cricket. Why not give opportunities to those players.

In my opinion the first step that BCCI needs to take is to remove him from vice captaincy and give that responsibility to someone deserving. If he is still not able to perform after that then he should be dropped.

The second test match will be played on 17th in Delhi. Indian has not lost any test match in Delhi for the last 36 years. I am hoping they continue to win this time too.

Zimbabwe isn't performing good. By the end of day 1 West Indies leads by 18 runs and 6 wickets left. Match gonna end by the third day. Zimbabwe should've made atleast 250 runs. I don't find anything bad with the batting line-up. With the players they can easily reach 250+ runs. Upto Tsiga it have batting order and if they weren't able to perform as test match, atleast they could've gone for some big shots. An easier series win for West Indies.

I don't completely agree with him. I know in Test he has been given a lot of chances but that was more because India was trying to find a suitable replacement for KL Rahul and it was quite late till Rishab Pant fit that spot in Tests. Coming to other formats in ODIs he has a good average of 44. Which is actually a good average considering he even bats at number 5 and opens some times. But yes lately his performance has not been as consistent as one would expect from a vice captain or an experienced players but generally he has played one or two match winning innings. I don't favour KL Rahul's selection but I see what current selectors might want from him and I remember once Rohit Sharma too was given these many chances after which he got his re incarnation and trust me Shubhman Gill is the next person who is going to get this favouritism.