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West Indies vs Zimbabwe (Day 3)
Day 3 of First Test match between West indies and Zimbabwe are still ongoing, both opener T.chanderpaul and K.brathwaite build a phenomenal partnership of 336 with both player score his 150+ , now at 336 Zimbabwe bowler got his first dismissal of K.brathwaite who score 182 with a strike rate of 58.33, while chanderpaul are still ongoing, he score 161 with a strike rate of 39.56. I will not be shocked if westindies score 500+ because Zimbabwe bowler are completely failed to put the batsman in trouble.
At the moment 2nd wicket of mayers are down with 374 runs in 125 overs.

Wonderful innings played by West indies openers Tagenarine Chanderpaul and Kraigg Brathwaite because of them they gave a big target to Zimbabwe which is difficult for them to chase .

If the openers have lost their wickets earlier, West Indies could've ended the innings in less than 200 runs. Just the openers have scored 182 and 207* runs. The rest haven't contributed much to the team score. Finally 447/6d is a good score. Zimbabwe have scored 75/1 in 28 overs seems good. Anyhow this match is going to be a draw.

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Quote from: elevates on February 05, 2023, 09:14:45 AM

Ashwin's savage reply to Ian Healy made my day! This happened on Twitter and I got the whole story from here I am just quoting it.

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I think if they produce fair Indian wickets, that are good batting wickets, to start with, (that) probably spin and spin pretty consistently but spin a long way, late in the match … we (Australia) win. I'm worried about (Mitchell) Starc and (Nathan) Lyon in the first Test … if they're unfair wickets which I've seen in the last series, where balls were jumping ridiculously and sliding down low from day one, I think India play those conditions better than us.

To which Ashwin's reply was epic!

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Anyway, an Australian broadcaster and former player Ian Healy has given a few gems before the BGT. He has given a few statements that say Indians will make sure Australian feel uncomfortable in India - "I don't believe they will give us wickets that will look even slightly closer to what we will actually get during a game." So he has said that Australia's approach is only correct. The support staffs might have given their opinion, but Ian Healy's quote has set a spark with this take. It's Border-Gavaskar Trophy guys. So we need this spark, right? Besides, banters will keep coming from the Australian camp for sure. We saw what Steve Smith and Usman Khawaja had to say. Eben Marnus Labuschagne and Matt Renshaw have said some controversial things. Renshaw said that you need to analyse a few things in India like who is taking the new ball and stuff.

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Australia skipped their practice game when they toured Pakistan as well since they didn't want to spend 4 days playing that. So instead of this, if we get a centre wicket on any ground, they will be more happy to practice there. So when you are playing a 3 or 4-Test series, you shouldn't be in that country for more than a month. Despite getting good facilities in the hotel, it can get tiring. So Australia decided instead of going to that country and practicing there, we know the conditions already, why don't we doctor the conditions here accordingly. Just like how they are preparing in North Sydney Oval for this India tour, they practiced in Melbourne before the Pakistan tour. So this is something new for Australia.

I think Australia is in a panic mode and that is why such statements have now become an everyday affair. I have never seen them so serious with BGT but suddenly they have shifted focus from the Ashes to BGT I think.

Chadwin never misses the opportunity and rightly so. IMO he's arguably the best cricketing brain in modern cricket and very sophisticated with his choice of words.

Don't forget he's the guy who left the ball when India needed 2 runs against Pakistan and it was the last ball. In a such pressure situation, you need titanium balls and a cool head.

I really hope he gets the bag of wickets in BGT.

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Do you think history would repeat itself in 2023?

Indians do have chink in their armor as far as batting is concerned but our bowling is strong so yeah very much possible.

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The first match in BGT will be played in Nagpur. As I wanted to know how the pitch in Nagpur was prepared for past test series I did some research and found out that they are spinner friendly. I know most Australian batters are not that good with spin, there are some who are good but still I would consider them not good. Therefore I wanted to check when was the last time Australia played a test match in Nagpur and I found out that it was in 2008 when they played the 4th and final test of BGT back then. They eventually lost that test match and India won the BGT of 2008.

Do you think history would repeat itself in 2023?

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Quote from: ZAINmalik75 on February 06, 2023, 06:06:24 AM

West Indies vs Zimbabwe (Day 3)
Day 3 of First Test match between West indies and Zimbabwe are still ongoing, both opener T.chanderpaul and K.brathwaite build a phenomenal partnership of 336 with both player score his 150+ , now at 336 Zimbabwe bowler got his first dismissal of K.brathwaite who score 182 with a strike rate of 58.33, while chanderpaul are still ongoing, he score 161 with a strike rate of 39.56. I will not be shocked if westindies score 500+ because Zimbabwe bowler are completely failed to put the batsman in trouble.
At the moment 2nd wicket of mayers are down with 374 runs in 125 overs.

Wonderful innings played by West indies openers Tagenarine Chanderpaul and Kraigg Brathwaite because of them they gave a big target to Zimbabwe which is difficult for them to chase .

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Quote from: ZAINmalik75 on February 06, 2023, 06:06:24 AM

West Indies vs Zimbabwe (Day 3)

Although the West Indies' first innings was halted at various times due to rain, they gave Zimbabwe a big target (447/6d) which will be very difficult for Zimbabwe to hold on to in the end. So far, Zimbabwe is on its third day tea break. They collected 25 runs without losing any wicket. If Zimbabwe can play in a defensive mood then I don't expect any result other than a draw even if the game goes to the fifth day.

Score from live
1st innings
West Indies 447/6d
1st innings
Zimbabwe 25/0
Update till day3 tea break.

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West Indies vs Zimbabwe (Day 3)
Day 3 of First Test match between West indies and Zimbabwe are still ongoing, both opener T.chanderpaul and K.brathwaite build a phenomenal partnership of 336 with both player score his 150+ , now at 336 Zimbabwe bowler got his first dismissal of K.brathwaite who score 182 with a strike rate of 58.33, while chanderpaul are still ongoing, he score 161 with a strike rate of 39.56. I will not be shocked if westindies score 500+ because Zimbabwe bowler are completely failed to put the batsman in trouble.
At the moment 2nd wicket of mayers are down with 374 runs in 125 overs.

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The two West Indies openers are playing brilliantly. West Indies collected 221 runs without losing any wicket. Two batsmen scored over 100. I don't think Zimbabwean bowlers will bowl that badly. The series is sure to be a draw. West Indies may collect big, but chances of victory are slim.

The performance of the two West Indies openers impressed me. Chanderpaul remains unbeaten with 101 runs. And his strike rate is 34.7. And Brathwaite scored 116 runs unbeaten. Brathwaite's strike rate is 47.15. The two West Indies openers are batting very responsibly. Also, Zimbabwe's bowling is very weak. However, the match was delayed due to rain. Even though two days have already ended, not even an inning has ended.

Chanderpaul and Braithwaite playing real test cricket. In recent days with more T20 matches played, players started to play test cricket matches same as T-20 matches. Already two days over and this match gonna end in draw. Within few days the much expected India vs Australia Border - Gavaskar Trophy to begin. Four test matches between the two will be enjoyable days for the cricket fans.

I agree with you. We haven't been watching real Test cricket lately. Most teams have more than 4 runs on the night. But the main aim of Test cricket is to score fewer runs but survive at the crease. But now it is not commonly seen. However, the two West Indies openers have been playing well, albeit against relatively weak opposition. I think these two openers will collect at least 150 runs. Because the performance of the bowlers of Zimbabwe is not good on this pitch.

Brathwaite was dismissed for 182 runs. He did a great performance. Chanderpaul is still unbeaten with 161 runs. Chanderpaul's performance impressed everyone. He scored 161 runs off 406 balls. West Indies collected 373 runs with the loss of 1 wicket. Perhaps they will declare the innings if they can collect 600 runs. And Zimbabwe will try to get them out quickly. West Indies have a chance to win the match if Zimbabwe's batsmen do not play well.

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Quote from: Vaskiy on February 05, 2023, 06:45:45 PM

Slowly the teams playing test cricket keeps decreasing and the huge money required is a reason for the same. Few countries are in good financial position and the rest are experiencing much difficulty. It is possible to see a big number of application to play IPL. The reason is the money paid to the players which can't be got even playing throughout the year. This is how cricket have turned.

Now ultimately things are changing quickly, so we have to do same here in this game because if we are not going to do few changes quickly then surely we will lose many good opportunities and countries those are currently interested in this game for the entertainment purpose like just cut the teams number in test format with eight and end the ODI format as well with this we have one issue ICC already sell media rights until 2031, so we can keep this until this time and allow franchise leagues and just T20i cricket which is surely future and have better revenue and profit for the all cricketing boards and relative authorities otherwise we will have problems and controversies with this all.

Peoples want some fast entertainment which is only possible in T20i in franchise and bilateral series are all welcome but now other two long formats are already on decrease and have no fair chance to improve their fan base as well.

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The two West Indies openers are playing brilliantly. West Indies collected 221 runs without losing any wicket. Two batsmen scored over 100. I don't think Zimbabwean bowlers will bowl that badly. The series is sure to be a draw. West Indies may collect big, but chances of victory are slim.

The performance of the two West Indies openers impressed me. Chanderpaul remains unbeaten with 101 runs. And his strike rate is 34.7. And Brathwaite scored 116 runs unbeaten. Brathwaite's strike rate is 47.15. The two West Indies openers are batting very responsibly. Also, Zimbabwe's bowling is very weak. However, the match was delayed due to rain. Even though two days have already ended, not even an inning has ended.

Chanderpaul and Braithwaite playing real test cricket. In recent days with more T20 matches played, players started to play test cricket matches same as T-20 matches. Already two days over and this match gonna end in draw. Within few days the much expected India vs Australia Border - Gavaskar Trophy to begin. Four test matches between the two will be enjoyable days for the cricket fans.

I agree with you. We haven't been watching real Test cricket lately. Most teams have more than 4 runs on the night. But the main aim of Test cricket is to score fewer runs but survive at the crease. But now it is not commonly seen. However, the two West Indies openers have been playing well, albeit against relatively weak opposition. I think these two openers will collect at least 150 runs. Because the performance of the bowlers of Zimbabwe is not good on this pitch.

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The two West Indies openers are playing brilliantly. West Indies collected 221 runs without losing any wicket. Two batsmen scored over 100. I don't think Zimbabwean bowlers will bowl that badly. The series is sure to be a draw. West Indies may collect big, but chances of victory are slim.

The performance of the two West Indies openers impressed me. Chanderpaul remains unbeaten with 101 runs. And his strike rate is 34.7. And Brathwaite scored 116 runs unbeaten. Brathwaite's strike rate is 47.15. The two West Indies openers are batting very responsibly. Also, Zimbabwe's bowling is very weak. However, the match was delayed due to rain. Even though two days have already ended, not even an inning has ended.

Chanderpaul and Braithwaite playing real test cricket. In recent days with more T20 matches played, players started to play test cricket matches same as T-20 matches. Already two days over and this match gonna end in draw. Within few days the much expected India vs Australia Border - Gavaskar Trophy to begin. Four test matches between the two will be enjoyable days for the cricket fans.

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Quote from: Marvell1 on February 05, 2023, 08:33:00 PM

The two West Indies openers are playing brilliantly. West Indies collected 221 runs without losing any wicket. Two batsmen scored over 100. I don't think Zimbabwean bowlers will bowl that badly. The series is sure to be a draw. West Indies may collect big, but chances of victory are slim.

The performance of the two West Indies openers impressed me. Chanderpaul remains unbeaten with 101 runs. And his strike rate is 34.7. And Brathwaite scored 116 runs unbeaten. Brathwaite's strike rate is 47.15. The two West Indies openers are batting very responsibly. Also, Zimbabwe's bowling is very weak. However, the match was delayed due to rain. Even though two days have already ended, not even an inning has ended.

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West indies vs Zimbabwe
Second day of first test match between Zimbabwe and west indies are ongoing , west indies player manage to build a strong partnership of 219 in 88 overs while the shocking things is that Zimbabwe bowler didn't even get a singal wicket to broke the partnership and put some joy in this boring match. West indies both opener T.Chanderpaul and K.Brathwaite score Thier centeries without any trouble. Still westindies has long number of batter left, at the moment they has no pressure on....

We have stumps of day 2 and much of the second day play is halted because of rain. Only 48 overs bowled today and West Indies hasn't lost any wikcet so far, as they finished second days play with 221 without any loss. Maiden century for Tagenarine Chanderpaul. Its good to see Zimbabwe back in test format. I was reading that there is no DRS in this series, its mainly due to lack of international cricket in Zimbabwe. With time as more international cricket will be played in Zimbabwe we will see wold class facilities.

We often see DRS in international cricket. But for cricket boards like Zimbabwe and West Indies, it is a very costly affair. Zimbabwe Cricket Board was not interested in spending so much money so they were not interested in using DRS in the two matches of this series.

The two West Indies openers are playing brilliantly. West Indies collected 221 runs without losing any wicket. Two batsmen scored over 100. I don't think Zimbabwean bowlers will bowl that badly. The series is sure to be a draw. West Indies may collect big, but chances of victory are slim.

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Quote from: eaLiTy on February 05, 2023, 02:58:48 PM

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Its good to see Zimbabwe back in test format. I was reading that there is no DRS in this series, its mainly due to lack of international cricket in Zimbabwe. With time as more international cricket will be played in Zimbabwe we will see wold class facilities.

To avail DRS facility, they need to shell out $60,000 per Test match and i really believe that the Zimbabwe Cricket board does not want to spent that much amount to avail those facility as they wont be getting that kind of revenue for a game and their financial condition is not that great either.

Even in this match, there were some close decisions that the umpire has not given out and hopefully we will not see further blunders.

Slowly the teams playing test cricket keeps decreasing and the huge money required is a reason for the same. Few countries are in good financial position and the rest are experiencing much difficulty. It is possible to see a big number of application to play IPL. The reason is the money paid to the players which can't be got even playing throughout the year. This is how cricket have turned.

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Quote from: WatChe on February 05, 2023, 12:13:27 PM

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Its good to see Zimbabwe back in test format. I was reading that there is no DRS in this series, its mainly due to lack of international cricket in Zimbabwe. With time as more international cricket will be played in Zimbabwe we will see wold class facilities.

To avail DRS facility, they need to shell out $60,000 per Test match and i really believe that the Zimbabwe Cricket board does not want to spent that much amount to avail those facility as they wont be getting that kind of revenue for a game and their financial condition is not that great either.

Even in this match, there were some close decisions that the umpire has not given out and hopefully we will not see further blunders.

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Quote from: ZAINmalik75 on February 05, 2023, 11:31:49 AM

West indies vs Zimbabwe
Second day of first test match between Zimbabwe and west indies are ongoing , west indies player manage to build a strong partnership of 219 in 88 overs while the shocking things is that Zimbabwe bowler didn't even get a singal wicket to broke the partnership and put some joy in this boring match. West indies both opener T.Chanderpaul and K.Brathwaite score Thier centeries without any trouble. Still westindies has long number of batter left, at the moment they has no pressure on....

West Indies still going good with no loss of wickets and openers still on crease, Tagenarine Chanderpaul (101) and Kraigg Brathwaite (112) both players have scored their centuries.
Zimbabwe balling is not going well as they are failing badly in putting pressure on west indies batsman. Day 2 already ended and 10 wickets in hand .

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Quote from: ZAINmalik75 on February 05, 2023, 11:31:49 AM

West indies vs Zimbabwe
Second day of first test match between Zimbabwe and west indies are ongoing , west indies player manage to build a strong partnership of 219 in 88 overs while the shocking things is that Zimbabwe bowler didn't even get a singal wicket to broke the partnership and put some joy in this boring match. West indies both opener T.Chanderpaul and K.Brathwaite score Thier centeries without any trouble. Still westindies has long number of batter left, at the moment they has no pressure on....

We have stumps of day 2 and much of the second day play is halted because of rain. Only 48 overs bowled today and West Indies hasn't lost any wikcet so far, as they finished second days play with 221 without any loss. Maiden century for Tagenarine Chanderpaul. Its good to see Zimbabwe back in test format. I was reading that there is no DRS in this series, its mainly due to lack of international cricket in Zimbabwe. With time as more international cricket will be played in Zimbabwe we will see wold class facilities.

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Quote from: ZAINmalik75 on February 05, 2023, 11:31:49 AM

West indies vs Zimbabwe
Second day of first test match between Zimbabwe and west indies are ongoing , west indies player manage to build a strong partnership of 219 in 88 overs while the shocking things is that Zimbabwe bowler didn't even get a singal wicket to broke the partnership and put some joy in this boring match. West indies both opener T.Chanderpaul and K.Brathwaite score Thier centeries without any trouble. Still westindies has long number of batter left, at the moment they has no pressure on....

It is really unfortunate for the Zimbabwean team that they could not collect a single wicket after West Indies' 89 overs. Despite Zimbabwe's bottom position in Tests, it was believed that they would do well. But there is no doubt that their current bowling site is not good. At the same time, West Indies is performing well. Even if they did not perform well against other good teams. But after this series they will try to improve to some extent. Zimbabwe may not have much to do in the first test but they will be eager to do better in the second test. If they can improve in bowling then they can do something in this series otherwise they are likely to lose both the matches.

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West indies vs Zimbabwe
Second day of first test match between Zimbabwe and west indies are ongoing , west indies player manage to build a strong partnership of 219 in 88 overs while the shocking things is that Zimbabwe bowler didn't even get a singal wicket to broke the partnership and put some joy in this boring match. West indies both opener T.Chanderpaul and K.Brathwaite score Thier centeries without any trouble. Still westindies has long number of batter left, at the moment they has no pressure on....

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Quote from: BobK71 on February 05, 2023, 01:35:12 AM

Without a DRS system at present, the quality of the game is questionable. Moreover, in this age of technology, if a game does not have a modern system, then people's interest in that game also decreases and there is not much excitement among the players.

DRS system is an important part of cricket games. A little wrong decision can also change the match result and ruin the match. If you guys noticed, There was no real DRS in BPL this year. It happened before as well. Then they introduced semi DRS which is made by the broadcasters. Players were surprised by seeing such a technology in premier league cricket when BCB claimed this is the 2nd Biggest Cricket Premier league in the world. In the meantime, Their players don't even think it's in top five.

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Quote from: BobK71 on February 05, 2023, 01:35:12 AM

Without a DRS system at present, the quality of the game is questionable. Moreover, in this age of technology, if a game does not have a modern system, then people's interest in that game also decreases and there is not much excitement among the players. The series will feature Test ranked No. 8 and No. 10, West Indies and Zimbabwe, so the DRS system should have been kept here. It may be that with only two Test matches and the series between weaker teams, so authority try to reduce it's expense.

Here I am not agreed with you about without DRS system quality is going to be questionable because in many matches we have big mistakes in presence of DRS, so things still manageable for empires as they have experiences, and they can give good decisions with naked eyes as well as we have few decades back in all games.

Even now I believe all teams needs to have technology and all other related things for better results and satisfaction because if you want to stay at better way then surely you have to settle with all current equipment's and other facilities which are important for the game, but Zimbabwe is surely had nothing with this I believe now they want to give up in test format because this could be better for them.

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