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New Zealand always struggle in sub-continental conditions. So it was not a surprise that they are getting hammered by Sri Lanka at the Galle International Stadium. Looks like the Kiwis will suffer an innings defeat in this match. Two of their top order batsmen are back in pavilion (Tom Latham and Devon Conway), and they still need another 380 runs just to avoid the follow on. Three days of play remains and not even rain can save the Kiwis from this disaster. BTW, why Ajaz Patel is still in the team? I really can't understand their logic behind selection. 

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As the Sri Lankan players were confident, they were more likely to perform well in the second match as well. But I didn't think Sri Lanka's top order would bat so well. Sri Lankan batsmen got off to a good start. The team managed to collect a huge total of 306 runs with the loss of only three wickets. I know the pitch is batting friendly, but since the team has lost only 3 wickets, Sri Lanka has a chance of collecting close to 500 in the first innings.
I didn't expect such great performance from Sri Lankan top orders as well. They have outperformed in this match. They have scored 602 runs by losing 5 wickets only. I respect their decisions to give the declaration of first innings instead of allowing Kamindu Mendis to hit 200 runs. Sri Lanka got a great success there in the last few overs as they have taken two important wickets already. It is going to be a sure win for Sri Lanka if they can take all the wickets of New Zealand within the first two sessions of day 3.

To be honest, I have not seen such great batting from the Sri Lankan top order in a long time. Sri Lanka managed to take full advantage of their home match. Sri Lanka were well aware of the pitch conditions. And every batsman batted very responsibly especially Kamindu Mendis, Kushal Mendis and Chandimal's innings was impressive. Chandimal returned to the dressing room with 116 runs. Kamindu Mendis and Kushal Mendis remained unbeaten on 182 and 106 respectively. Before declaring the innings, Sri Lanka had accumulated 602 runs for the loss of 5 wickets. New Zealand's bowlers bowled very badly in the first innings.

New Zealand batsmen are also not able to bat well on this pitch. Even in the first match we did not see good batting from New Zealand batsmen. And their batting looks worse in this match. New Zealand lost the two crucial wickets of Latham and Conway to score just 19 runs. I don't see any chance of New Zealand winning this match.
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As the Sri Lankan players were confident, they were more likely to perform well in the second match as well. But I didn't think Sri Lanka's top order would bat so well. Sri Lankan batsmen got off to a good start. The team managed to collect a huge total of 306 runs with the loss of only three wickets. I know the pitch is batting friendly, but since the team has lost only 3 wickets, Sri Lanka has a chance of collecting close to 500 in the first innings.
I didn't expect such great performance from Sri Lankan top orders as well. They have outperformed in this match. They have scored 602 runs by losing 5 wickets only. I respect their decisions to give the declaration of first innings instead of allowing Kamindu Mendis to hit 200 runs. Sri Lanka got a great success there in the last few overs as they have taken two important wickets already. It is going to be a sure win for Sri Lanka if they can take all the wickets of New Zealand within the first two sessions of day 3.
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I won't blame Zakir Hasan alone. He showed enough patience to be honest. Even though he is not made for Test cricket, he played 24 balls without scoring a single run. That is how you should defend balls in test cricket. I would say he was patient with the shot selection. But you know, a good ball can change everything. Usually, he plays aggressive cricket. Surprisingly, he played 24 balls without scoring any runs.

I was talking in general. I wouldn't say I liked how Shanto came up and started to play shots. It's like he is playing ODI cricket. You should know that you are facing a world-class bowler here. The batters should be more patient when they play test cricket. BTW, I see when you want to criticize a team, you write gibberish. Your criticism should be constructive and have some points.
Yeah, Mohammad Zakir Hassan as 26 years old wicket keeper batsman is only player for Bangladesh who score century on his debut, and he breaks 56 years old record for having duck after playing 24 balls it is a record against India for any opening batsman as first this was held by Ian Chappell who bowled out after 22 balls duck against India.

Bangladesh batsmen having potential, but their technique is not good just because of this they are not able to perform good against quality bowling here we need some good work for BCB to bring good batsmen which give them good workout and having improved technique for the test matches otherwise things are going to stay on this level for the long time without any success.

If we have not rained interruption then most chances we will have another huge defeat for the Bangladesh in this second test match which will bring them back on earth after having success against Pakistan in Pakistan.
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I thought Sri Lanka would declare around 500 at the end of 2nd day but they made an impressive 600 and were able to take two wickets on New Zealand that too in the second day.  Now they'd work to take the remaining wickets of New Zealand as soon as possible. If New Zealand lost all of it in a low score, they'll be forced to bat again which would insure an easy win for Sri Lanka.

Sri Lanka scored a really high amount that I am 100 % sure that New Zealand can’t chase this easily. Also today New Zealand did the batting for just 14 overs in which they played so poor as they lost 2 early wickets in this hard time and have not scored high, Just made 22 runs.



New Zealand are treated badly by Sri Lanka. The game has stumps, Kane Williamson will open the game tomorrow and I think he is one and the only person, if he will stand for long innings then he could carry New Zealand through to a position where they may save this test, he is such a good player but will he work in this situation?
Yes, You are right now all responsibility to Kane Williamson playing at 6 runs. New Zealand trial by huge 580 runs that is very difficult for chase it down. Sri Lanka have good chances because they picked 2 wickets so far and tomorrow morning they need only wicket of Kane Williamson. Sri Lanka outstanding batting performance in first inning scored 602 runs in a loss of just 5 wickets and they declared the inning. Kamindu Mendis played an important inning of 182 runs unbeaten, I don't why Captain decided to declare the inning while Kamindu Mendis only needs 18 runs to complete his double century. Let's see how new Zealand batter will perform in third day of test match.


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The Bangladesh vs India second Test match was scheduled to take place today, but the toss has been delayed due to bad weather and wet outfield due to rain. Although today's match will start if the rain stops and the weather improves and the outfield dries out, there is a possibility of a replay. Moreover, we have seen that India won the first test match brilliantly, so the second test match is very important for Bangladesh because they have to win this match or else they will lose the series. In that case, I think when this match starts today, Bangladesh team must play responsibly against India and improve their game otherwise they will lose the series. However, if the weather is good, the toss may be given and if the rain does not stop, then today's match may be delayed.
Bangladesh was defeated in the first match of this test match and that defeat was quite big.  And in this match too, most of the chances of winning are for India.  Currently, Bangladesh are batting and their batsmen have scored 107 runs for the loss of 3 wickets in 35 overs.  This shows that they are moving slowly.  Their batsmen should increase their pace and try to give tough targets because you know the pace of Indian batsmen, they have to complete the target in few overs and win the first innings.  India will also win this match as they are a strong and well experience team and Bangladesh faced India in the first match and there Bangladesh also got an idea of their strength.  Now it is to be seen whether Bangladesh can defeat India in this match or not.The speed with which Bangladesh are batting suggests that they will lose.
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Zakir Hasan, the golden duck boy of Bangladesh, played 24 balls and got out without any runs. They actually have no mentality to play Test cricket.
I won't blame Zakir Hasan alone. He showed enough patience to be honest. Even though he is not made for Test cricket, he played 24 balls without scoring a single run. That is how you should defend balls in test cricket. I would say he was patient with the shot selection. But you know, a good ball can change everything. Usually, he plays aggressive cricket. Surprisingly, he played 24 balls without scoring any runs.

I was talking in general. I wouldn't say I liked how Shanto came up and started to play shots. It's like he is playing ODI cricket. You should know that you are facing a world-class bowler here. The batters should be more patient when they play test cricket. BTW, I see when you want to criticize a team, you write gibberish. Your criticism should be constructive and have some points.

Zakir didn't score any runs but he got off to a good start. He tried to play very carefully. But due to lack of experience, he could not survive at the crease. He was very patient. I hope if Zakir is diligent then he will become one of the most important players in Bangladesh team. We will see better performance from Zakir in future.

The match was delayed due to rain on the first day. Bangladesh lost 3 wickets and collected 107 runs. I would say rain is a blessing for Bangladesh. If the match is delayed by one more day due to rain then the match is likely to be a draw.
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I thought Sri Lanka would declare around 500 at the end of 2nd day but they made an impressive 600 and were able to take two wickets on New Zealand that too in the second day.  Now they'd work to take the remaining wickets of New Zealand as soon as possible. If New Zealand lost all of it in a low score, they'll be forced to bat again which would insure an easy win for Sri Lanka.

Sri Lanka scored a really high amount that I am 100 % sure that New Zealand can’t chase this easily. Also today New Zealand did the batting for just 14 overs in which they played so poor as they lost 2 early wickets in this hard time and have not scored high, Just made 22 runs.



New Zealand are treated badly by Sri Lanka. The game has stumps, Kane Williamson will open the game tomorrow and I think he is one and the only person, if he will stand for long innings then he could carry New Zealand through to a position where they may save this test, he is such a good player but will he work in this situation?
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Sri Lanka is looking very strong at the moment. They are 306/3 at the end of first day's play with Angelo Mathews and Kamindu Mendis at the crease. New Zealand has failed to overcome their weakness in sub-continental conditions. William O’Rourke and Ajaz Patel performed decently in the first match, but they failed this time. A lot was expected from Mitchell Santner and Glenn Phillips as well, but they also failed to take wickets. Maybe the New Zealand captain need to use Rachin Ravindra more frequently in these spin-friendly conditions.
After the end of day 2 Srilanka is a very strong side because they get 2 wickets at the end of the day and hope so they will get a couple more wickets earlier in day 3 Session 1. But you will surely appreciate the batting done by the batters of Sri Lanka.
NZ also has a big name in their batting line which turns the game single-handedly but its a very tough job to do so at the home ground of Sri Lanka.



The Bangladesh vs India second Test match was scheduled to take place today, but the toss has been delayed due to bad weather and wet outfield due to rain. Although today's match will start if the rain stops and the weather improves and the outfield dries out, there is a possibility of a replay. Moreover, we have seen that India won the first test match brilliantly, so the second test match is very important for Bangladesh because they have to win this match or else they will lose the series. In that case, I think when this match starts today, Bangladesh team must play responsibly against India and improve their game otherwise they will lose the series. However, if the weather is good, the toss may be given and if the rain does not stop, then today's match may be delayed.
The match started delayed due to a wet outfield and at the moment both teams are at equal stages and both can turn the game but I think India will surely dominate the game on the day 2 at the same moment Team Bangladesh also wants to win the second game and level the series. it is not an easy task for Bangladesh to do so.
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I thought Sri Lanka would declare around 500 at the end of 2nd day but they made an impressive 600 and were able to take two wickets on New Zealand that too in the second day.  Now they'd work to take the remaining wickets of New Zealand as soon as possible. If New Zealand lost all of it in a low score, they'll be forced to bat again which would insure an easy win for Sri Lanka.

On the second test of Bangladesh vs India, Bangladesh had started well, But the rain might make the game shorter taking it to a draw. The weather is not going to improve tomorrow either.
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Zakir Hasan, the golden duck boy of Bangladesh, played 24 balls and got out without any runs. They actually have no mentality to play Test cricket.
I won't blame Zakir Hasan alone. He showed enough patience to be honest. Even though he is not made for Test cricket, he played 24 balls without scoring a single run. That is how you should defend balls in test cricket. I would say he was patient with the shot selection. But you know, a good ball can change everything. Usually, he plays aggressive cricket. Surprisingly, he played 24 balls without scoring any runs.

I was talking in general. I wouldn't say I liked how Shanto came up and started to play shots. It's like he is playing ODI cricket. You should know that you are facing a world-class bowler here. The batters should be more patient when they play test cricket. BTW, I see when you want to criticize a team, you write gibberish. Your criticism should be constructive and have some points.
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I thought Bangladeshi batters would adopt a more positive mindset and show some patience. But it seems they are not made to play test cricket. Most batters don't understand which ball they should leave. Shadman got a couple of chances, yet he was unable to make a big score. Let's see if they can do something on the 2nd day.
Zakir Hasan, the golden duck boy of Bangladesh, played 24 balls and got out without any runs. They actually have no mentality to play Test cricket. If you look at other teams playing Test cricket, especially Australia and England, you can understand how Tests are played. Bangladeshi players are under a lot of pressure during Test playing, it is never possible for Bangladeshi players to handle this pressure, so it is never possible for Bangladeshi players to play Tests.
So as a Bangladeshi Bangladeshi supporter I never expect Bangladesh to do well in Tests. I have seen many games of Bangladesh from which Bangladesh do not take any lessons but they are playing exactly the same cricket ten years ago as they played ten years ago.  There has been no improvement in Bangladesh cricket and there will be no improvement.
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India won the toss and decided to bowl and Bangladesh were to bat. Although today's match is facing a lot of problems due to rain both the teams had rain at the beginning due to which no toss was held, later though the match was played after the rain cleared. But currently the match has been abandoned due to rain again and if the rain is favorable again then the match will start again. However, in today's match, the Bangladesh team went down to bat and lost three wickets. Zakir Hasan had the worst batting performance in today's match.He couldn't score a single run in 24 balls. It's really a sad thing for Bangladesh. Moreover, Nazmul Hasan Shanto didn't do very well in today's match. However now that Mominul Haque is batting responsibly if he can play well he can score some good runs for the team, currently Bangladesh runs 107 wickets 3.
Bangladesh team started batting after losing the toss and did not see a good game from the morning. In the ninth over of the morning session, Zakir Hasan got out during the team's 26 runs and he was out for 0 runs after playing 24 balls, which was a very bad batting. Then in the 12th over another opener Sadman got out for 24 runs and Akash Deep got both these wickets and he bowled brilliantly. Muminul and Nazmul tried to prevent the game by scoring 45 runs from 83 balls in the third wicket, but Nazmul got out LBW to Asin after scoring 31 runs from 57 balls. They were batting very well.

After that the first day's play had to be ended due to rain and lack of light. At the end of the day, Mominul scored 40 off 81 balls and Mushfiqur Rahim scored 6 runs off 13 balls. I think Bangladesh team is going to lose this match too because they are not consistent and they lack reliable batsmen whereas Indian team has many talented players.
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The Indian commentators said that it's not surprising why Rohit chose to field after winning the toss, even though it is the first time a campaign has decided to bowl first in Kanpur in the last 50 years. Shanto said he wanted to bat first and was happy that they would bat first. One more time, an Indian commentator said it is normal for your opposition to say that when they did not win the toss. So, no matter what they wanted to do since they did not win the toss.

I thought Bangladeshi batters would adopt a more positive mindset and show some patience. But it seems they are not made to play test cricket. Most batters don't understand which ball they should leave. Shadman got a couple of chances, yet he was unable to make a big score. Let's see if they can do something on the 2nd day.
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India won the toss and decided to bowl and Bangladesh were to bat. Although today's match is facing a lot of problems due to rain both the teams had rain at the beginning due to which no toss was held, later though the match was played after the rain cleared. But currently the match has been abandoned due to rain again and if the rain is favorable again then the match will start again. However, in today's match, the Bangladesh team went down to bat and lost three wickets. Zakir Hasan had the worst batting performance in today's match.He couldn't score a single run in 24 balls. It's really a sad thing for Bangladesh. Moreover, Nazmul Hasan Shanto didn't do very well in today's match. However now that Mominul Haque is batting responsibly if he can play well he can score some good runs for the team, currently Bangladesh runs 107 wickets 3.
The first day's play in the second Test match between Bangladesh and India is over for now, with Bangladesh amassing 107 runs for 3 wickets at the end of the first day's play. The start of today's match was hampered by rain, but when Bangladesh batted first, they lost two wickets for 29 runs and came under pressure. To get rid of this pressure, captain Nazmul Hossain Shanto and co-captain Mominul Haque put together a conservative innings calmly and patiently. The partnership between these two managed to score 51 runs off 101 balls. While both the batsmen were playing patiently, suddenly Nazmul Hossainshant was dismissed lbw by Indian spinner Ravichandran Ashwin and returned to the pavilion. As a result of which the pair between them fell apart.

Now the two batsmen who are at the crease for Bangladesh will have to bat with a long mind because their team is still not out of danger. If Bangladesh cricket team can score more than 300 runs in their first innings against India, maybe it will be a relief for Bangladesh.
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India won the toss and decided to bowl and Bangladesh were to bat. Although today's match is facing a lot of problems due to rain both the teams had rain at the beginning due to which no toss was held, later though the match was played after the rain cleared. But currently the match has been abandoned due to rain again and if the rain is favorable again then the match will start again. However, in today's match, the Bangladesh team went down to bat and lost three wickets. Zakir Hasan had the worst batting performance in today's match.He couldn't score a single run in 24 balls. It's really a sad thing for Bangladesh. Moreover, Nazmul Hasan Shanto didn't do very well in today's match. However now that Mominul Haque is batting responsibly if he can play well he can score some good runs for the team, currently Bangladesh runs 107 wickets 3.
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The second Test match between Bangladesh vs India was supposed to start today but the toss has not been held yet due to rain.  

According to various media reports, this Test in Kanpur is going to be the last Test of his career for Shakib Al Hasan as he confirmed in the press conference before the start of the match that he is retiring from Test and T20 cricket. Shakib Al Hasan is a very important cricketer for Bangladesh cricket so his retirement decision is undoubtedly very difficult for every Shakib fan to accept. He has confirmed that he will play till Champions Trophy but we did not think that he will retire so soon from T20 and Test cricket.
India is going fast as they are taking the wickets in good way. Already, they have taken two wickets when Bangladesh is just on 76. At the same time, Indian bowlers also defending runs good. In the last game, there was so bad start by the Indian team but this time they are looking well organized.

Akash Deep picked both the wickets and if the other bowlers will bowl like him, it may take the team India towards win. Jasprit Bumrah defending well but has not pick any wicket so far, let’s see what will he do later in the game. It is just the beginning of the test match.  Smiley

After winning the toss and deciding to field, India are playing well. Now the match is being delayed due to rain. Bangladesh team managed to collect 107 runs by losing three wickets. Two experienced batsmen like Mominul and Mushfiq are now at the crease. I was very surprised to see opener Zakir Hasan's batting. He could not collect any runs from 24 balls. The way Zakir Hasan was batting carefully I thought Zakir Hasan can play a big innings in this match. But Zakir could not add any runs to the scoreboard.

Akash Deep picked up two wickets and Ashwin picked up one wicket. Bumrah and Siraj failed to pick up any wickets. However, like the first match, Bangladesh is likely to lose in this match as well. I guess Bangladesh will not collect more than 250-300. Rather, they will collect less.
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The second Test match between Bangladesh vs India was supposed to start today but the toss has not been held yet due to rain.  

According to various media reports, this Test in Kanpur is going to be the last Test of his career for Shakib Al Hasan as he confirmed in the press conference before the start of the match that he is retiring from Test and T20 cricket. Shakib Al Hasan is a very important cricketer for Bangladesh cricket so his retirement decision is undoubtedly very difficult for every Shakib fan to accept. He has confirmed that he will play till Champions Trophy but we did not think that he will retire so soon from T20 and Test cricket.

India is going fast as they are taking the wickets in good way. Already, they have taken two wickets when Bangladesh is just on 76. At the same time, Indian bowlers also defending runs good. In the last game, there was so bad start by the Indian team but this time they are looking well organized.

Akash Deep picked both the wickets and if the other bowlers will bowl like him, it may take the team India towards win. Jasprit Bumrah defending well but has not pick any wicket so far, let’s see what will he do later in the game. It is just the beginning of the test match.  Smiley
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After having win in first test match now Sri Lanka is doing good job in second test match as they prepare completely batting pitch which is having nothing for bowlers and all kiwi bowlers are having good punishment from the Sri Lankan batting lineup Pathum Nissanka out on 1 in first over of the game after this we have nothing positive for the visitors as Dimuth Karunaratne gone on 46 and then century from Chandimal and fifties from the Mathews and Kamindu Mendis which is telling all story about first days play.

William O’Rourke who is having good performance in first test match having good punishment from Sri Lankan in this inning as after 14 overs give 66 runs without having any wicket and then Ajaz Patel is also concede 92 runs from his 27 overs after having first days play most chances we will have result of this match as draw of Sri Lanka because things are not favourable for the Kiwis to have anything positive against quality spin of the Sri Lanka which already done good damage for them in first game.
Yes Sri Lanka is doing well in second cricket test match against New Zealand. After winning first match Sri Lanka pitch helps their batsmen making it hard for New Zealand bowlers. Sri Lankan batsmen are performing well. New Zealand bowlers especially O'Rourke and Patel are struggling.
It is likely that Sri Lanka will draw or win this match because their pitch favors spin bowling and they have momentum from the first match. Sri Lanka is in control and New Zealand faces an uphill battle.


Sri Lanka is still batting with a good margin, they are not losing wickets and their players are playing with full consistency which is very good, if they will reach 500 runs then it will be a huge target that New Zealand will have to chase.

Kamindu Mendis is batting on 98, he is the needy of two runs then he will make his century. By the way, already one player from Sri Lanka hitted the century but he has out who is Dinesh Chandimal. Kamindu Mendis is batting on 99 now, he has to make just one more. A single could allow him to make century.  Smiley
Kamindu 93* takes Sri Lanka past 400 despite Phillips' strikes

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The sample size is small but Kamindu Mendis looks like a real deal. In his 6-7 match test career he already got some big numbers under his belt.

-1 daddy hundred + one 100 + 91 in England (6 innings)
-1 50 in Australia (only 1 inning)
-2 100s + one 90s in Bangladesh (4 innings)

He scored all these runs in an away series and Virtually no one hyping and talking about him much. In comparison to PIG-3 players, the likes of Marnus, Brook and Jaiswal got a shitload amount of hype when they scored runs.

PS: To be fair to Jaiswal, it was balanced and more like a "hope" because in India you are considered good if you perform in SENA.
Test cricket seems too easy for Kamindu. 4 5 test tons in just 8 matches and scored 50 in every match ( the first batsman to do that in the history of test cricket).



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BCB is richer than NZC? I am not sure about that. But apart from this, there are a few points that I would consider:

1. Bangladesh and Sri Lanka doesn't even have a decent 4-day domestic competition. They have a Club-based structure, that focuses heavily on the cities of Dhaka and Colombo respectively. On the other hand, New Zealand 4-day competition is around for more than a century and is well renowned for its quality.

2. Stats can be misleading. Bangladesh and Sri Lanka may look better than they are in reality. They prepare dust bowls against SENA nations and thereby win matches. Pakistan rarely uses this strategy.

3. In case of Pakistan, there is a region-based 4-day domestic competition. But PCB management changes every 2-3 years and this results in changes to the format and thereby instability.

Is Sri Lanka better than Pakistan? It is debatable. But overall, given level playing field (i.e no home advantage, no injuries to major players, matches organized by neutral boards.etc), I would say that Pakistan is far better.
Back in 2019-20, I remember reading their annual reports and found out that BCB had more assets and they were more competent in generating profits when compared to NZC, I'll come back to that again.

1. There is no comparison between SL-BAN-PAK and NZ or any SENA when it comes to domestic setup. Anglosphere is miles ahead.

2. When i said Bangladesh's stocks are in an uptrend, I meant after the Pakistan series. They still have a mountain to climb but SL are ahead of Pakistan in test cricket, I believe 4-5 years of data is more than enough to judge any team's trajectory. It's not some individual number but results of 4-5 years, I don't think the "Stat can be misleading" argument holds any weight in such case.

You are making it sound like making a dustbowl or green deck is worse than rolling out a highway. We should collectively jog our memory and remind ourselves, what kind of pitches PCB served to Australia and England. Pindi's pitch got demerit points in both series because the deck was dead. Did you forget what Rambo said? He defended these pitches and said we wanted to nullify opposition seamers. If they had spinners then one could hope for a spin deck but that wasn't the case either.

This too another gem from Rambo in regards to flat pitches :
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