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Quote from: sarmrakib on October 26, 2024, 07:45:30 AM

After a long time Pakistan has won a test match on their own ground. However though the wickets of Pakistan behaving unusual still Shakeel really played well and then the other. However Sajid really bowled well made easy to win the match. To play match on Asia continent is always challenging and England really played well against Pakistan. Hopefully Pakistan have some confidence now after series beaten against Bangladesh. Now they are looking more strong for the future.

Sajid Khan always performed well in every single game since he came in cricket but always dropped without any specific reason, not on performance based but for some political reasons ( my guess).

As recently at the start of 2024, Pakistan was in a tour of Australia and he performed very well there after that, he was dropped for the next series and like this once again he was selected for this series but again dropped for the first game for no reason but when he picked for the second game, I think he will never be drop ever again and also according to the sources, he will be selected for the Champions Trophy 2025.

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Quote from: virasog on October 26, 2024, 05:07:40 AM

Pakistan won the second game too and Saud Shakeel was named as the player of the game but I think Sajid Khan deserves to be the player of the match as compared to Saud Shakeel because Sajid Khan did wonderful bowling and helped Pakistan through the victory.

Saud Shakeel made 134 runs but also at the same time, Sajid Khan did good batting too, he made 72 runs but the thing that explains he should be the player of the game on his all around performance, he was hit by a hard bouncer even his shirt was filled with blood in some parts but still, he was playing and I don't know but I have listened that he has stitches but was still playing, maybe I am wrong in this but I have listened to it on social media.

You are right in your point of view but at the same time, if you analyze in the first innings, Pakistan were losing their wickets back to back and no one stable the game then Saud Shakeel came who played wonderful innings and completed his century and that was the main cause by which the the Pakistan team came out from the pressure and then the next players also started to play with him and started making partnership with him. Sajid Khan also scored well and picked wickets in a good way. In short, both could be the player of the match from different point of view but yup Saud Shakeel got the title. Wink

After a long time Pakistan has won a test match on their own ground. However though the wickets of Pakistan behaving unusual still Shakeel really played well and then the other. However Sajid really bowled well made easy to win the match. To play match on Asia continent is always challenging and England really played well against Pakistan. Hopefully Pakistan have some confidence now after series beaten against Bangladesh. Now they are looking more strong for the future.

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Quote from: virasog on October 26, 2024, 05:07:40 AM

Pakistan won the second game too and Saud Shakeel was named as the player of the game but I think Sajid Khan deserves to be the player of the match as compared to Saud Shakeel because Sajid Khan did wonderful bowling and helped Pakistan through the victory.

Saud Shakeel made 134 runs but also at the same time, Sajid Khan did good batting too, he made 72 runs but the thing that explains he should be the player of the game on his all around performance, he was hit by a hard bouncer even his shirt was filled with blood in some parts but still, he was playing and I don't know but I have listened that he has stitches but was still playing, maybe I am wrong in this but I have listened to it on social media.

You are right in your point of view but at the same time, if you analyze in the first innings, Pakistan were losing their wickets back to back and no one stable the game then Saud Shakeel came who played wonderful innings and completed his century and that was the main cause by which the the Pakistan team came out from the pressure and then the next players also started to play with him and started making partnership with him. Sajid Khan also scored well and picked wickets in a good way. In short, both could be the player of the match from different point of view but yup Saud Shakeel got the title. Wink

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It's crazy to think that India finally lost a test series at home after 4330 days while Pakistan finally won a test series at home after 1355 days literally on the same day. What a crazy coincidence.

Anyway, I miss the Kohli-Shastri era where India dominated the test format for a long, long time. Gambhir as the head coach is overrated.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on October 26, 2024, 04:48:22 AM

India is in danger, they can lose this game too, they have to make more than 150 runs while they have just three wickets left but the good thing is that they can make it if they will play slowly and would not try to play fast and push it too hard. If they play with patience then can make it to victory as two days are left in this test match.
However the New Zealand bowlers have other plans, they are on fire and I think they will not allow Indian team to chase this score. It was another bad innings for the Indian team losing 7 wickets and making only 200 runs. Huh

India is certainly performing very poorly as a team. In the first match, although India showed some hope in the second innings, they lost the match due to their poor first innings performance. But they did not perform well in the first and second innings in the second match and could not even create a chance to win. They certainly disappointed the Indian supporters beyond their expectations. A 2-0 series loss must be difficult for the Indian cricket team and supporters to accept.

Especially I expected a bit more on Virat. Not only me, the entire cricketing world looked up to Virat's bat during such a slump in India. But Virat continues to disappoint his fans one after another. Virat's recent form is not going well at all. I find it difficult for Virat to be consistent for his age. Maybe he can do well in a few matches but if you expect consistency, you will be disappointed. For such a star player, I think it is better to end the cricket career. What do you think?

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Quote from: ThemePen on October 25, 2024, 07:47:02 PM

Pakistani team has two legends at this time. And you all know that I am talking about Sajid Khan and Nouman Ali. Didn't you see the batting and the bowling of these two players. In the first inning Sajid Khan collected 6 wickets first and in batting he was was more surprising I was thinking that they are playing a ODI match may be. Hahaha. Just he hit 4 sixes in his 48 runs journey and also 2 fours. He is the only one who hit most of the boundaries. And just like him Nouman Ali also made 45 runs. And he was also good in batting and bowling. And clear chance is that Pakistan will win this match easily.

Pakistan won the second game too and Saud Shakeel was named as the player of the game but I think Sajid Khan deserves to be the player of the match as compared to Saud Shakeel because Sajid Khan did wonderful bowling and helped Pakistan through the victory.

Saud Shakeel made 134 runs but also at the same time, Sajid Khan did good batting too, he made 72 runs but the thing that explains he should be the player of the game on his all around performance, he was hit by a hard bouncer even his shirt was filled with blood in some parts but still, he was playing and I don't know but I have listened that he has stitches but was still playing, maybe I am wrong in this but I have listened to it on social media.

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Quote from: Out of mind on October 26, 2024, 04:10:54 AM

If India can meet the target of 359 runs today, then they will win this match today. Moreover, if India does not win this match today then they will definitely lose the series and New Zealand team will win the series. We have seen that New Zealand team won the first match in a great way, and they still have the highest chances to win the second test match as well. On the third day, India scored 184 runs and lost 7 wickets. Indian team batsmen are batting under a lot of pressure at the moment. I think they will be all out very soon. India still needs to collect 175 runs to win, moreover they don't have good batsmen and New Zealand team has good bowling line, so they will all out India very soon today and win the series.

India is in danger, they can lose this game too, they have to make more than 150 runs while they have just three wickets left but the good thing is that they can make it if they will play slowly and would not try to play fast and push it too hard. If they play with patience then can make it to victory as two days are left in this test match.
However the New Zealand bowlers have other plans, they are on fire and I think they will not allow Indian team to chase this score. It was another bad innings for the Indian team losing 7 wickets and making only 200 runs. Huh

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on October 26, 2024, 04:04:38 AM

Rishab Pant could not add any runs to the scoreboard in this innings. I will not be surprised at all if Rishab Pant is not in the Indian squad in the upcoming series.

I don't think it's right to drop Pant due to few failures, it'll get the team nowhere. Pant made 99 in second innings of first test and he's also a good wk. There are only two choices for wk in test which is Pant and KL, and Pant is better choice IMO.

When Jaiswal and Gill were on crease India was looking good but what a disaster after lunch. Jadeja-Ash on crease, make a miracle please.

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If India can meet the target of 359 runs today, then they will win this match today. Moreover, if India does not win this match today then they will definitely lose the series and New Zealand team will win the series. We have seen that New Zealand team won the first match in a great way, and they still have the highest chances to win the second test match as well. On the third day, India scored 184 runs and lost 7 wickets. Indian team batsmen are batting under a lot of pressure at the moment. I think they will be all out very soon. India still needs to collect 175 runs to win, moreover they don't have good batsmen and New Zealand team has good bowling line, so they will all out India very soon today and win the series.

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Quote from: JSRAW on October 26, 2024, 02:30:17 AM

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India has mountains to climb but it's not impossible. In 2007-08, India successfully chased 350+ against England but still, history tells us it's not an easy job on the 4th-5th day deck.
I won't expect much from senior players (Rohit-Kohli) but I'd love to see some resistance from young players like Jaiswal, Gill, Pant and Sarfraz. Also, want to see Washi up in the order above Jadeja-Ashwin. These young players need to step up massively in this chase.

Is the target of 359 runs too big for India? I don't think so.

India has resources but it's 4th day turning track and it's a hard task, not impossible though.
In Indian pitches match gets decided in just 30 minutes of bad cricket because wickets fall in clusters, that's what sums up India's 3 last innings in this series.
3 back to back batting collapse.
1st inning of 1st test - 46 all out
2nd inning of Ist test - 406/3 and then collapse 462/all out
1st inning of 2nd test - 50/1, followed by collapse 156/all out

It is probably not possible for India to make a comeback in this match. India has already lost 7 wickets and the Indian batsmen still cannot collect 200 runs. India started the innings very well. But after 127 runs, India started losing wickets quickly. The performance of the middle order batsmen was not good today.

Yashasvi Jaiswal played an excellent innings of 77 runs off just 65 balls. But no Indian batsman could help Yashasvi Jaiswal. Rishab Pant has been in very poor form in this series. Rishab Pant could not add any runs to the scoreboard in this innings. I will not be surprised at all if Rishab Pant is not in the Indian squad in the upcoming series.

Jadeja and Ashwin are now at the crease. India need 179 more runs to win. It will not be possible for India to win this match. India might have been able to win the match if the middle order batsmen had batted well.

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Disappointing dismissals of Pant and Kohli, both balls deserved to go to boundary. Indian fielders looked complacent in field. India lost the first game, they must win this match to level the series, I don't get why they are playing like this.

I still believe KL Rahul would have been appropriate in the place of Sarfaraz.

I mean no one sane would have picked pick KL over Sarfaraz considering Sarfaraz made 150 in first test match, and KL is having a bad run at the moment — fail at home stadium in two consecutive innings, that's bad.

Yashasvi Jaiswal's early T20 style batting seemed to give India a good start in the innings, but when the batting disaster happened later, India's confidence started to fade away. Now maybe it is not possible to win but it would be better if some miracle can be done to draw the match. Only time will tell if India can draw the match with Mitchell Santner's bowling spin. Now that Sarfraz Khan and Washington Sundhor are on wicket, a huge responsibility has fallen on them. Rishabh Pant collected a total of 18 runs in 2 innings i.e. scored a golden duck in the second innings. India didn't expect anything like this from Risab Pant.

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The England team performed very well in the first match of this Test series, but in the second match and the third match they performed very poorly. And in the end Pakistan team won by 2-1 mess, winning by 9 wickets with the biggest margin in the third match. Two Pakistani bowlers, Noman Ali and Sajid Khan, left England completely helpless in the second innings of the third match. Because of these two bowlers, the attacking batsmen of the England team broke down very easily. The top-order batsmen collapsed in desperation due to which the later batsmen could not withstand the pressure and England scored 112 runs. But Pakistani team players won this game very easily, this match was very easy for Pakistan team.

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Well... India needs another 218 runs, while New Zealand needs 6 more wickets. Even at the moment, I think New Zealand has the upper hand. Washington Sundar and Virat Kohli are at the crease, and they need to stay there if India wants to save the match. And Mitchell Santner is just unplayable. So far, he has picked up 10 wickets in this match. But the advantage for India is that Ajaz Patel from the other end has proved to be very incompetent.

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India has mountains to climb but it's not impossible. In 2007-08, India successfully chased 350+ against England but still, history tells us it's not an easy job on the 4th-5th day deck.

I won't expect much from senior players (Rohit-Kohli) but I'd love to see some resistance from young players like Jaiswal, Gill, Pant and Sarfraz. Also, want to see Washi up in the order above Jadeja-Ashwin. These young players need to step up massively in this chase.

Is the target of 359 runs too big for India? I don't think so.

India has resources but it's 4th day turning track and it's a hard task, not impossible though.

In Indian pitches match gets decided in just 30 minutes of bad cricket because wickets fall in clusters, that's what sums up India's 3 last innings in this series.

3 back to back batting collapse.

1st inning of 1st test - 46 all out
2nd inning of Ist test - 406/3 and then collapse 462/all out

1st inning of 2nd test - 50/1, followed by collapse 156/all out

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Quote from: Cheema02 on October 26, 2024, 12:48:59 AM

Pakistani Spin bowler's are on top and best so far Noman Ali and Sajid Khan magnificent bowlimg performance in second inning of this test match. England lost the 5 wickets in just 70 runs. England trail by 7 runs so far and they lost half of its team. Harry brook last hope of England is out after scoring 26 runs. Joe Root is batting at 25 runs Jamie Smith first inning hero joined now after the wicket of England captain ben Stokes. Pakistan bowling performance is outstanding especially Noman Ali picked 4 important wickets by just giving 28 runs and Sajid khan also pick one wicket. I think this test match is over in 3rd day because Pakistan just needs 5 more wickets and i don't think england will scored a lead of 100 runs and its easy for Pakistan to chase down target and hot favorite to win this test match and series.

England's batsmen could not bat well in the second innings, eventually getting all out for 112 runs. Harry Brook and Joe Root both scored the highest runs, Joe Root was dismissed for 33 runs and Harry Brook was dismissed for 26 runs. Both Noman Ali and Sajid Khan bowled brilliantly, England's batsmen could not play big innings in front of their aggressive bowling. England eventually set a target of 36 runs, which Pakistan easily won by 9 wickets. England won the first test with a great performance but could not perform well in the 2nd and 3rd matches. Pakistan won the series by winning the 2nd and 3rd Tests.

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Quote from: Cheema02 on October 26, 2024, 12:48:59 AM

Pakistani Spin bowler's are on top and best so far Noman Ali and Sajid Khan magnificent bowlimg performance in second inning of this test match. England lost the 5 wickets in just 70 runs. England trail by 7 runs so far and they lost half of its team. Harry brook last hope of England is out after scoring 26 runs. Joe Root is batting at 25 runs Jamie Smith first inning hero joined now after the wicket of England captain ben Stokes. Pakistan bowling performance is outstanding especially Noman Ali picked 4 important wickets by just giving 28 runs and Sajid khan also pick one wicket. I think this test match is over in 3rd day because Pakistan just needs 5 more wickets and i don't think england will scored a lead of 100 runs and its easy for Pakistan to chase down target and hot favorite to win this test match and series.

I didn't think England would bat so badly. England could not bat well in the first innings against Noman Ali and Sajid Khan. The England team failed to do well against these two bowlers in the second innings as well. England team lost all the wickets to collect only 112 runs. Noman Ali took 6 wickets and Sajid Khan 4 wickets in the second innings. England scored 267 runs in the first innings but played very badly in the second innings. England's batsmen have given a small target of only 36 runs.

A target of only 36 runs is impossible to win. Even if the target was 150+ it would not have been easy for Pakistan to win the match. But now Pakistan will reach the target of victory very easily. Noman Ali and Sajid Khan performed well in this match. Noman Ali took 9 wickets and Sajid Khan 10 wickets. Also in the first innings both these batsmen have done excellent batting. Sajid Khan managed to collect 48 runs and Noman 45 runs.

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Quote from: JSRAW on October 26, 2024, 12:57:58 AM

India has mountains to climb but it's not impossible. In 2007-08, India successfully chased 350+ against England but still, history tells us it's not an easy job on the 4th-5th day deck.

I won't expect much from senior players (Rohit-Kohli) but I'd love to see some resistance from young players like Jaiswal, Gill, Pant and Sarfraz. Also, want to see Washi up in the order above Jadeja-Ashwin. These young players need to step up massively in this chase.

Is the target of 359 runs too big for India? I don't think so. Because in the first match we got to see India's strange batting. After scoring 46 runs in the first innings, India managed to score more than 460 in the second innings. There is nothing surprising in the repetition of the same incident.

India managed to collect only 156 runs in the first innings. This is a very small collection. However, Indian batsmen batting well in the second innings is not surprising. India has this capability. Every batsman in the squad is very talented and experienced.

Before the lunch break, India scored 81 runs in just 12 overs. The Indian team is collecting an average of 6.75 runs per over. Indian batsmen are batting very aggressively. But Rohit Sharma can't bat well even today. The Indian captain was able to collect only 8 runs.

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Quote from: Nrcewker on October 25, 2024, 11:42:07 AM

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Disappointing dismissals of Pant and Kohli, both balls deserved to go to boundary. Indian fielders looked complacent in field. India lost the first game, they must win this match to level the series, I don't get why they are playing like this.

I still believe KL Rahul would have been appropriate in the place of Sarfaraz.

I mean no one sane would have picked pick KL over Sarfaraz considering Sarfaraz made 150 in first test match, and KL is having a bad run at the moment — fail at home stadium in two consecutive innings, that's bad.

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India has mountains to climb but it's not impossible. In 2007-08, India successfully chased 350+ against England but still, history tells us it's not an easy job on the 4th-5th day deck.

I won't expect much from senior players (Rohit-Kohli) but I'd love to see some resistance from young players like Jaiswal, Gill, Pant and Sarfraz. Also, want to see Washi up in the order above Jadeja-Ashwin. These young players need to step up massively in this chase.

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Rohit out quickly yet again. Hope Kohli lasts longer. This test has basically become an ODI at the moment where the odds are still 50:50 at the moment thanks to Gill and Jaiswal forming a great partnership currently.

New Zealand still hold the advantage, but never rule India out in such extremely high pressure situations. Draw is out which means that one of these teams will definitely end up winning.

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