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Our batters like Virat or Rohit and i argued that batters will be Jadeja's replacement should be easy because Axar is there and a fair amount of good left arm spin all rounders are in work in progress in domestic but for Ashwin, there is no one except Washington (High quality batting talent but a slow learner and lazy as an offie in test format).
Well said. I don't see Sundar replacing Ashwin at all. It will take a long time for India to find a suitable replacement for Ashwin if you ask me.

Bangladesh batted well at the beginning of the fourth day so I thought maybe Bangladesh will be able to put up a good score and at least they can finish the fourth day batting but Shanto and Shakib were able to form a good partnership but they could not take that partnership very far. 
You were expecting way too much from Bangladesh. They lost in the first innings itself thanks to Jadeja and Ashwin's fantastic partnership. India could have just enforced a follow on which would have finished the match even quicker.
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Bangladesh batted well at the beginning of the fourth day so I thought maybe Bangladesh will be able to put up a good score and at least they can finish the fourth day batting but Shanto and Shakib were able to form a good partnership but they could not take that partnership very far. 
While Gill and Pant scored two centuries after losing four wickets in India's second innings, Bangladesh could not take advantage. Yes I agree that Shakib Al Hasan and Nazmul Hasan Shanta had a good partnership but that partnership did not last very long. Nazmul Hasan Shanta (82) played a good innings but Shakib Al Hasan got out for just 25 runs.  In Test cricket, if you do not have a good partnership, the chances of losing the match remain high. After the dismissal of Shakib Al Hasan, all the remaining wickets fell for just 21 runs.  Such a fall of wickets in Tests is by no means desirable but is one of the major issues responsible for defeats.
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Bangladesh batted well at the beginning of the fourth day so I thought maybe Bangladesh will be able to put up a good score and at least they can finish the fourth day batting but Shanto and Shakib were able to form a good partnership but they could not take that partnership very far. 
After the fall of Shakib's wicket, the batting lineup of Bangladesh collapsed. A back-to-back fall of wickets after Shakib's dismissal resulted in Bangladesh's massive 280-run defeat in the first Test match against India.

It is very difficult for Bangladesh to win a Test match against India on Indian soil. India's spin bowling all-rounder Ravichandran Ashwin has performed brilliantly in batting and bowling mainly because of his brilliant batting and brilliant bowling which helped Team India win by such a big margin.
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A few days back i was discussing with Haunebu about who would be hard to replace. Our batters like Virat or Rohit and i argued that batters will be easy to replace but finding a replacement for Ashwin-Jadeja would be tough (especially Ashwin). Jadeja's replacement should be easy because Axar is there and a fair amount of good left arm spin all rounders are in work in progress in domestic but for Ashwin, there is no one except Washington (High quality batting talent but a slow learner and lazy as an offie in test format).


Ashwin was opener while playing divisional matches then he made the transition but it was before U17 so we can't compare Washi with him but there's certain resemblance and also there's room for himself to groom in a couple of years since he will be the closer one to be in comparison than the debutants but it's all in his hands whether he is ready to make necessary effort to fill in a great spot.

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Bangladesh eventually lost by a huge margin of 280 runs. The batsmen of Bangladesh could not perform well due to which Bangladesh lost by a big margin. Bangladesh were all out for 149 runs in the first innings. Bangladesh fell far behind as they were all out in the first innings with few runs. India batted better in the second innings than the first innings. India declared the innings with 287 runs in the 2nd innings. India set a huge run target due to which Bangladesh came under a lot of pressure. Mushfiqur Rahim Liton Das Mehidy Hasan Miraz against Pakistan they batted well but against India they could not bat well. Bangladesh players have to focus on the next match. Bangladesh players have to perform well in the next match especially the batting line was very weak so the batting line needs to be improved.
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The New Zealand team is batting on the fourth day and they are batting brilliantly to chase down the target given by Sri Lanka. But currently as they have lost two wickets breaking the opening two Sri Lankan team their bowling performance is good. If Sri Lanka team can pressure New Zealand team in today's match then surely they will lose wickets and most likely to lose the match under pressure. Although right now New Zealand need to collect 208 runs although it is possible still there are enough wickets if they can play well and patiently then New Zealand can be expected to win this match against Sri Lanka today.
The victory of the New Zealand team completely depends on the partnership of Rachin Ravindra and Ajaz Patel. But the most important role will be played if Ajaz patel can last long, while the reliable batsman he has worked hard enough and will get success but on the survival of the reverse batsman. Meanwhile, the bowlers of the Sri Lankan team are trying hard to get all out. As the New Zealand team is at the bottom end of the wicket, they must perform patiently for a long time.
Ramesh and Jayasurya done good job in last few overs which give huge advantage to Sri Lanka for having win in this game and take lead even Rachin Ravindra doing good resistance, but now things are out of their way for win in this game because pitch is not easy to play for tail enders and Ajaz Patel is having not good record in batting which can give good support to Rachin Ravindra in this game for New Zealand win.

Situation was favourable for the New Zealand win but as they lost their middle order batsmen Glenn Phillips and Tom Blundell through Jayasurya things gone out of their hands and Sri Lanka is now on driving seat and just need two good balls to have win in this test match which could be second consecutive win for the Sri Lanka in test matches.
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As @JSRAW says, Chadwin did it yet again with both the bat and ball in this test. Century plus 6 wickets is legendary stuff. Proper gigachad indeed.
And Ash Anna is making a habit.

I remember he used to be a better bat and during 2011-2016 he was averaging around 34-ish with the bat but completely lost his form for the next 4 years and now getting into his grove again, I guess his last inning in Sydney 2021, Where he batted for like 45 overs along with Vihari did wonder for him.

A few days back i was discussing with Haunebu about who would be hard to replace. Our batters like Virat or Rohit and i argued that batters will be easy to replace but finding a replacement for Ashwin-Jadeja would be tough (especially Ashwin). Jadeja's replacement should be easy because Axar is there and a fair amount of good left arm spin all rounders are in work in progress in domestic but for Ashwin, there is no one except Washington (High quality batting talent but a slow learner and lazy as an offie in test format).

Is it something disrespectful or daydreaming? We, as supporters of our country, surely expect something better and support our team. But some of our Indian friends insult saying don't dream, don't be a fool, etc etc, which is totally disrespectful. Every country has its supporters who even fly to different countries to support their team, no matter how strong the opponent is. Otherwise, you won't see Kenya supporters when they play against stronger teams.
Nah. It isn't disrespectful at all and they need to get their heads checked if they think that way especially after they defeated Pakistan in their own backyard so convincingly just sometime earlier.
Lol what's this about?

I didn't notice anyone disrespecting the Bangladeshi team.

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But some of our Indian friends insult saying don't dream, don't be a fool, etc etc, which is totally disrespectful. Every country has its supporters who even fly to different countries to support their team, no matter how strong the opponent is. Otherwise, you won't see Kenya supporters when they play against stronger teams.

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Okay, i went through some posts and i think @Learn Bitcoin is talking about his/her exchange with @lixer

Tbh, i didn't find anything fanatic in lixer's post. If I have to be picky then Yeah, maybe he/she could be polite in the bold part of his/her argument but other than that it's alright and I believe should be shrugged off as banter or better, come up with a good comeback.

It's completely different or nowhere close to what Bangladeshi fans and cricketers (Mushi) did in the past or do regularly. We have so many examples; Posting Dhoni's severed head, creating ad hoarding of half shaved heads of Indian cricketers, creating a ruckus in SL like breaking windows of changeroom and doing the famous Nagin dance (Which is funny IMO) after winning a match.


Conditions and opponents are always having huge impact on teams performance if you are thinking you will have same conditions like in Pakistan then you are living in foolish heavens India is completely different place for cricket, and you can't go like you done in other regions here so just stay in reality and now check how things take change with Bangladesh is going to face huge defeat in this first test match after having poor batting in first inning.

You don't have to lecture me about how good the Indian team is. Bangladesh never won a test match against India, and they are the number one team. It's a well-known fact, and you don't have to insult others when they point out the facts and the stats. I do not deny that the conditions and the opponent always matter. Don't forget a thing: any team can lose a match no matter how good a team they are. We all know India is a better side. That does not mean India cannot lose a match. India has a record of getting all out for 32 runs against Australia. I just stated that Bangladesh also did the same thing against Pakistan when they were on 26/6. So, nobody knows what is going to happen. Just show some respect when you write  Wink
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The New Zealand team is batting on the fourth day and they are batting brilliantly to chase down the target given by Sri Lanka. But currently as they have lost two wickets breaking the opening two Sri Lankan team their bowling performance is good. If Sri Lanka team can pressure New Zealand team in today's match then surely they will lose wickets and most likely to lose the match under pressure. Although right now New Zealand need to collect 208 runs although it is possible still there are enough wickets if they can play well and patiently then New Zealand can be expected to win this match against Sri Lanka today.

The victory of the New Zealand team completely depends on the partnership of Rachin Ravindra and Ajaz Patel. But the most important role will be played if Ajaz patel can last long, while the reliable batsman he has worked hard enough and will get success but on the survival of the reverse batsman. Meanwhile, the bowlers of the Sri Lankan team are trying hard to get all out. As the New Zealand team is at the bottom end of the wicket, they must perform patiently for a long time.
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But some of our Indian friends insult saying don't dream, don't be a fool, etc etc, which is totally disrespectful. Every country has its supporters who even fly to different countries to support their team, no matter how strong the opponent is. Otherwise, you won't see Kenya supporters when they play against stronger teams.

Fanatics have different characters and engaging with debate with such kinds does nothing productive, so it's better to avoid such conflicts if you feel things are escalating. Myself never disrespected any team and we know beating team India in their home is close to impossible for a decade now that is why some of these fans are overwhelmed when there is opposition fans but don't forget we also supported opposition team/players whenever they performed especially in Chepauk.
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Unbelievable win for the Indian team, i know they will win in the end but did not thought that they would finish the the game so early on the 4th day. When the first innings was in progress, I was looking for Bangladesh to win this game but incredible performance by their team in the second innings and also in the first innings, lead India through the win.



At the start of the game, Bangladesh were very happy as they were going to win but their hardluck lost the game. In the second innings, Bangladesh bowlers also destroyed Indian backbone except Shubman Gill but still Virat Kohli and Rohit Sharma lost at the start by Inida due to Bangladesh bowlers but no advantage for Bangladesh because they eventually lost the match.
It was indeed an incredible win for India as they managed to beat Bangladesh by a huge margin in the first Test match.India's spin all-rounder Ravichandra Ashwin has to be given full credit for defeating Bangladesh. He and Ravindra Jadeja combined to help the Indian team score a lot of runs in the first innings. In this match, Ravichandran Ashwin has shown his skill in batting as well as he has performed well in bowling.

Moreover, we can see that Bangladesh's bowlers are performing fairly well but their batsmen are failing completely at present. No one has a tendency to play patiently and carefully. The Bangladeshi batsmen batting seemed to be under pressure and unable to come out of their shells. In many games of Bangladesh, the main problem of Bangladesh is that if they play well in one innings, they play badly in the next innings against the big teams. There is no player in the Bangladesh team whose mentality is strong enough to even bring the team out of danger.

It would be unfair if we talked about the Indian win and did not discuss one of the talented batsman, Pant. After a long time, Pant played a match for the Indian team in a test match. Last time, when he played in 2022 December against Bangladesh too and he is back in this series against Bangladesh.

Pant back and fire the runs. In the first innings, Pant did not score high and was out early, but in the second innings he performed well and completed a century that helps very much to the Indian team to be confident and raised hopes that they could come back in this match, and they did. He has not played a match for many months because he had a car accident.

Pant is undoubtedly a talented player and he batted well in the first and second innings, scoring 39 runs off 52 balls in the first innings and scoring 109 runs off 128 balls in the second innings. Subman Gill was also unbeaten on 128 off 176 balls in the second innings. I think the whole India team played very well and there are many talented players in the team. They also bowled well as in the second innings Ashwin bowled 21 overs and took 6 wickets with 88 runs and Jadeja took 3 wickets with 58 runs in 15.1 overs. In fact, Indian team is very aggressive in every format of cricket and they have the ability to beat every team in the world. Bangladesh team is far behind India in Test ranking and currently India is number one in Test ranking.
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The New Zealand team is batting on the fourth day and they are batting brilliantly to chase down the target given by Sri Lanka. But currently as they have lost two wickets breaking the opening two Sri Lankan team their bowling performance is good. If Sri Lanka team can pressure New Zealand team in today's match then surely they will lose wickets and most likely to lose the match under pressure. Although right now New Zealand need to collect 208 runs although it is possible still there are enough wickets if they can play well and patiently then New Zealand can be expected to win this match against Sri Lanka today.
Test game is basically a partnership game, if you can make a good partnership here, the result of the match will definitely change. An entire session of play has been left out so far but New Zealand need to muster just 160 runs. A short partnership between Rachin Ravindra and Tom Blundell after the fall of the fourth wicket for 96 runs but if the pair can last, New Zealand will surely have a better chance of victory.
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Unbelievable win for the Indian team, i know they will win in the end but did not thought that they would finish the the game so early on the 4th day. When the first innings was in progress, I was looking for Bangladesh to win this game but incredible performance by their team in the second innings and also in the first innings, lead India through the win.



At the start of the game, Bangladesh were very happy as they were going to win but their hardluck lost the game. In the second innings, Bangladesh bowlers also destroyed Indian backbone except Shubman Gill but still Virat Kohli and Rohit Sharma lost at the start by Inida due to Bangladesh bowlers but no advantage for Bangladesh because they eventually lost the match.
It was indeed an incredible win for India as they managed to beat Bangladesh by a huge margin in the first Test match.India's spin all-rounder Ravichandra Ashwin has to be given full credit for defeating Bangladesh. He and Ravindra Jadeja combined to help the Indian team score a lot of runs in the first innings. In this match, Ravichandran Ashwin has shown his skill in batting as well as he has performed well in bowling.

Moreover, we can see that Bangladesh's bowlers are performing fairly well but their batsmen are failing completely at present. No one has a tendency to play patiently and carefully. The Bangladeshi batsmen batting seemed to be under pressure and unable to come out of their shells. In many games of Bangladesh, the main problem of Bangladesh is that if they play well in one innings, they play badly in the next innings against the big teams. There is no player in the Bangladesh team whose mentality is strong enough to even bring the team out of danger.

It would be unfair if we talked about the Indian win and did not discuss one of the talented batsman, Pant. After a long time, Pant played a match for the Indian team in a test match. Last time, when he played in 2022 December against Bangladesh too and he is back in this series against Bangladesh.

Pant back and fire the runs. In the first innings, Pant did not score high and was out early, but in the second innings he performed well and completed a century that helps very much to the Indian team to be confident and raised hopes that they could come back in this match, and they did. He has not played a match for many months because he had a car accident.
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The New Zealand team is batting on the fourth day and they are batting brilliantly to chase down the target given by Sri Lanka. But currently as they have lost two wickets breaking the opening two Sri Lankan team their bowling performance is good. If Sri Lanka team can pressure New Zealand team in today's match then surely they will lose wickets and most likely to lose the match under pressure. Although right now New Zealand need to collect 208 runs although it is possible still there are enough wickets if they can play well and patiently then New Zealand can be expected to win this match against Sri Lanka today.
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As @JSRAW says, Chadwin did it yet again with both the bat and ball in this test. Century plus 6 wickets is legendary stuff. Proper gigachad indeed.

Is it something disrespectful or daydreaming? We, as supporters of our country, surely expect something better and support our team. But some of our Indian friends insult saying don't dream, don't be a fool, etc etc, which is totally disrespectful. Every country has its supporters who even fly to different countries to support their team, no matter how strong the opponent is. Otherwise, you won't see Kenya supporters when they play against stronger teams.
Nah. It isn't disrespectful at all and they need to get their heads checked if they think that way especially after they defeated Pakistan in their own backyard so convincingly just sometime earlier.
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Unbelievable win for the Indian team, i know they will win in the end but did not thought that they would finish the the game so early on the 4th day. When the first innings was in progress, I was looking for Bangladesh to win this game but incredible performance by their team in the second innings and also in the first innings, lead India through the win.



At the start of the game, Bangladesh were very happy as they were going to win but their hardluck lost the game. In the second innings, Bangladesh bowlers also destroyed Indian backbone except Shubman Gill but still Virat Kohli and Rohit Sharma lost at the start by Inida due to Bangladesh bowlers but no advantage for Bangladesh because they eventually lost the match.
It was indeed an incredible win for India as they managed to beat Bangladesh by a huge margin in the first Test match.India's spin all-rounder Ravichandra Ashwin has to be given full credit for defeating Bangladesh. He and Ravindra Jadeja combined to help the Indian team score a lot of runs in the first innings. In this match, Ravichandran Ashwin has shown his skill in batting as well as he has performed well in bowling.

Moreover, we can see that Bangladesh's bowlers are performing fairly well but their batsmen are failing completely at present. No one has a tendency to play patiently and carefully. The Bangladeshi batsmen batting seemed to be under pressure and unable to come out of their shells. In many games of Bangladesh, the main problem of Bangladesh is that if they play well in one innings, they play badly in the next innings against the big teams. There is no player in the Bangladesh team whose mentality is strong enough to even bring the team out of danger.
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Bangladesh team has lost relatively more wickets, which is true they are in danger now. The batsmen are under a lot of pressure from the current partnership, a healthy normal player falters even in such stressful moments. As Nazmul Hasan Shanto and Shakib Al Hasan have formed a partnership currently, but Nazmul Hasan Shanto has performed for a long time and scored a half-century. However, Shakib Al Hasan has entered the batting for a short time, but if the partnership of these two develops, the Bangladesh team can get some runs ahead, because this is the last strong partnership, the next batsmen will not be able to perform well. If this partnership collapses, Bangladesh will lose by the biggest margin.
India gave a big target to them so when there is a big target ahead so this also make a big impact on team. Means it makes a lot pressure on team because the players also think this is a big target they can't chase it which decrease the self confidence and lead to the loss. So this is exact happening with Bangladesh team. They have lost 4 wickets and they have a big score to make still. If they want to win so they need 357 runs. Which is looking impossible. So let's see what they will do?

The match ended on the fourth day itself. And the Bangladesh team was defeated by a huge margin of 280 runs. It was not possible for Bangladesh to win the match against India. However, the Bangladeshi players could have reduced the severity of the defeat. But the Bangladesh team was defeated by a big margin due to bad batting.

Indian batsmen could not bat well in the first innings. The match would have been competitive if the Bangladeshi batsmen could have done a bit better. But Bangladesh's collection in the first innings was only 149 runs. In the second innings too, as usual, we saw bad batting by the Bangladeshi players. Bangladesh's innings stopped at 234 runs. Captain Shanto collected the maximum 82 runs for Bangladesh.


How will the players of Bangladesh team reduce the number of losses in this match, because they are inexperienced batsmen. But only Nazmul Hasan Shanta has given a good batting performance but the rest have performed very poorly. Although the bowling performance was good in the first innings and the second innings, the batting performance was not good. 
How will they perform the way they performed in the T20, they performed like this in the Test match, they need patient players to play Test matches but I don't see such patient players in the Bangladesh team.

Although there was a small target for the Bangladesh team in the first innings but they were bowled out for 149 runs, and the biggest target in the second innings was the biggest target for the Bangladesh team to lose here. I think he is a failed captain in Nazmul Hasan's duties as a calm captain for Test matches, because he must give direction on how to experience the batsmen.
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Bangladesh team will definitely lose this match, because the batsmen of Bangladesh are not very efficient. Because the Bangladesh team lost this match so badly and the run margin is very high. Now these two batsmen Nahid Rana and Hasan Mahmood are in partnership but they are basically independent. Batting performance cannot be depended on them at all, as they are more skilled at bowling. The Bangladesh team lost by a wide margin due to the four batsmen of Liton Das, Shakib Al Hasan, Mushfiqur Rahim and Mominul Haque. Although it was difficult for the Bangladesh team to chase the target of so many runs, but they could have created a small margin and with a patient batting performance, there was definitely a chance of winning. But the performance in the first innings was very bad and the batting performance in the second innings was also bad due to which the Bangladesh team was bound to lose.


Unbelievable win for the Indian team, i know they will win in the end but did not thought that they would finish the the game so early on the 4th day. When the first innings was in progress, I was looking for Bangladesh to win this game but incredible performance by their team in the second innings and also in the first innings, lead India through the win.



At the start of the game, Bangladesh were very happy as they were going to win but their hardluck lost the game. In the second innings, Bangladesh bowlers also destroyed Indian backbone except Shubman Gill but still Virat Kohli and Rohit Sharma lost at the start by Inida due to Bangladesh bowlers but no advantage for Bangladesh because they eventually lost the match.
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Bangladesh team has lost relatively more wickets, which is true they are in danger now. The batsmen are under a lot of pressure from the current partnership, a healthy normal player falters even in such stressful moments. As Nazmul Hasan Shanto and Shakib Al Hasan have formed a partnership currently, but Nazmul Hasan Shanto has performed for a long time and scored a half-century. However, Shakib Al Hasan has entered the batting for a short time, but if the partnership of these two develops, the Bangladesh team can get some runs ahead, because this is the last strong partnership, the next batsmen will not be able to perform well. If this partnership collapses, Bangladesh will lose by the biggest margin.
India gave a big target to them so when there is a big target ahead so this also make a big impact on team. Means it makes a lot pressure on team because the players also think this is a big target they can't chase it which decrease the self confidence and lead to the loss. So this is exact happening with Bangladesh team. They have lost 4 wickets and they have a big score to make still. If they want to win so they need 357 runs. Which is looking impossible. So let's see what they will do?

The match ended on the fourth day itself. And the Bangladesh team was defeated by a huge margin of 280 runs. It was not possible for Bangladesh to win the match against India. However, the Bangladeshi players could have reduced the severity of the defeat. But the Bangladesh team was defeated by a big margin due to bad batting.

Indian batsmen could not bat well in the first innings. The match would have been competitive if the Bangladeshi batsmen could have done a bit better. But Bangladesh's collection in the first innings was only 149 runs. In the second innings too, as usual, we saw bad batting by the Bangladeshi players. Bangladesh's innings stopped at 234 runs. Captain Shanto collected the maximum 82 runs for Bangladesh.

Ashwin played brilliantly in this match. He scored a century in the first innings when the team needed it. Also bowled very well in the second innings. Ashwin took 6 wickets in the second innings giving 88 runs.
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Bangladesh team will definitely lose this match, because the batsmen of Bangladesh are not very efficient. Because the Bangladesh team lost this match so badly and the run margin is very high. Now these two batsmen Nahid Rana and Hasan Mahmood are in partnership but they are basically independent. Batting performance cannot be depended on them at all, as they are more skilled at bowling. The Bangladesh team lost by a wide margin due to the four batsmen of Liton Das, Shakib Al Hasan, Mushfiqur Rahim and Mominul Haque. Although it was difficult for the Bangladesh team to chase the target of so many runs, but they could have created a small margin and with a patient batting performance, there was definitely a chance of winning. But the performance in the first innings was very bad and the batting performance in the second innings was also bad due to which the Bangladesh team was bound to lose.
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Bangladesh team has lost relatively more wickets, which is true they are in danger now. The batsmen are under a lot of pressure from the current partnership, a healthy normal player falters even in such stressful moments. As Nazmul Hasan Shanto and Shakib Al Hasan have formed a partnership currently, but Nazmul Hasan Shanto has performed for a long time and scored a half-century. However, Shakib Al Hasan has entered the batting for a short time, but if the partnership of these two develops, the Bangladesh team can get some runs ahead, because this is the last strong partnership, the next batsmen will not be able to perform well. If this partnership collapses, Bangladesh will lose by the biggest margin.

India gave a big target to them so when there is a big target ahead so this also make a big impact on team. Means it makes a lot pressure on team because the players also think this is a big target they can't chase it which decrease the self confidence and lead to the loss. So this is exact happening with Bangladesh team. They have lost 4 wickets and they have a big score to make still. If they want to win so they need 357 runs. Which is looking impossible. So let's see what they will do?
You are correct. The chances of a team like Bangladesh chasing such huge runs and winning with their top 4 wickets already out is very low. Now the fourth day's play will begin and Shakib is still alive and has scored 16 runs in the last 43 balls and Shanto has scored 52 runs off 79 balls. In fact, the whole match looked like a game of unevenness and India played a positive game every time and were in good rhythm. Bangladesh team lacks confidence and they are not strong mentally but they are trying.

Now it seems that the chances of losing are high for the Bangladesh team as most of their batsmen are not of a fighting spirit and they lack experience. However, as an emerging team, Bangladesh team has a lot of potential and if they can increase their regular tournament play with foreign teams, their team can be very prosperous.
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