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India gave a big target to them so when there is a big target ahead so this also make a big impact on team. Means it makes a lot pressure on team because the players also think this is a big target they can't chase it which decrease the self confidence and lead to the loss. So this is exact happening with Bangladesh team. They have lost 4 wickets and they have a big score to make still. If they want to win so they need 357 runs. Which is looking impossible. So let's see what they will do?

Day 04 of the test match has started. Shakib Al Hasan and Najmul Hossain Shanto have started cautiously and that is what is required from them. But the task ahead of them is very big. It is not a matter of the Bangladesh team surviving for a session or two and the test match would be saved, they have to play the whole 2 days if they want to save this match and this is impossible.

What is the point in having one-sided matches such as this one? No one benefits when India plays against Bangladesh, or when Australia plays against Sri Lanka. The gap between pig-3 and the rest of the tier-1 teams is huge, at least when it comes to test cricket. Test matches such as the ongoing one only benefits players who want to spike their test stats. And this is the reason why I believe that the ICC World Test Championship is a flawed concept. It forces stronger teams to play against weaker teams, resulting in lop-sided matches.

Well, the only benefits India get here are the important points for the ICC World Test Championship and maybe some match practice. Also when you win, the players and team get the incentives and prize money Wink
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It's highly improbable for Bangladesh to draw or win a test against the Indians in their own backyard stastically speaking, but they will push them out of their comfort zone as we have seen in the Indian first innings.

Bangladesh have come a long way in the test format and they might win a test against India, but that will probably happen in the far off future.

True. I agree with that.
But as a fan of your country team, you can expect your team to play better than before and at least put some fight in the match. Is it something disrespectful or daydreaming? We, as supporters of our country, surely expect something better and support our team. But some of our Indian friends insult saying don't dream, don't be a fool, etc etc, which is totally disrespectful. Every country has its supporters who even fly to different countries to support their team, no matter how strong the opponent is. Otherwise, you won't see Kenya supporters when they play against stronger teams.
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What is the point in having one-sided matches such as this one? No one benefits when India plays against Bangladesh, or when Australia plays against Sri Lanka. The gap between pig-3 and the rest of the tier-1 teams is huge, at least when it comes to test cricket. Test matches such as the ongoing one only benefits players who want to spike their test stats. And this is the reason why I believe that the ICC World Test Championship is a flawed concept. It forces stronger teams to play against weaker teams, resulting in lop-sided matches.
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Bangladesh team has lost relatively more wickets, which is true they are in danger now. The batsmen are under a lot of pressure from the current partnership, a healthy normal player falters even in such stressful moments. As Nazmul Hasan Shanto and Shakib Al Hasan have formed a partnership currently, but Nazmul Hasan Shanto has performed for a long time and scored a half-century. However, Shakib Al Hasan has entered the batting for a short time, but if the partnership of these two develops, the Bangladesh team can get some runs ahead, because this is the last strong partnership, the next batsmen will not be able to perform well. If this partnership collapses, Bangladesh will lose by the biggest margin.

India gave a big target to them so when there is a big target ahead so this also make a big impact on team. Means it makes a lot pressure on team because the players also think this is a big target they can't chase it which decrease the self confidence and lead to the loss. So this is exact happening with Bangladesh team. They have lost 4 wickets and they have a big score to make still. If they want to win so they need 357 runs. Which is looking impossible. So let's see what they will do?
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Bangladesh team does not have patient players in their squad, then how will they build a partnership, if players like Mominul Haque and Mushfiqur Rahman get out after collecting only 13 runs, then how will Bangladesh win. Bangladesh team is never able to perform well in such difficult conditions, although Nazmul Hasan Shanto and Shakib Al Hasan have formed a partnership at the last minute. But the players who are in the latter are basically not good at batting, so how can we still chase this huge target and expect to win? 

Mominul Haque and Mushfiqur Rahim are two experienced players, but it was mainly because of their outs that this match became the most feared. Right now Bangladesh team has collected 158 runs for 4 wickets in exchange. Bangladesh team still needs to meet the target of 357 runs to win, I don't expect such a game from Bangladesh team players at all. Because the victory of this game is uncertain for Bangladesh.


Bangladesh team has lost relatively more wickets, which is true they are in danger now. The batsmen are under a lot of pressure from the current partnership, a healthy normal player falters even in such stressful moments. As Nazmul Hasan Shanto and Shakib Al Hasan have formed a partnership currently, but Nazmul Hasan Shanto has performed for a long time and scored a half-century. However, Shakib Al Hasan has entered the batting for a short time, but if the partnership of these two develops, the Bangladesh team can get some runs ahead, because this is the last strong partnership, the next batsmen will not be able to perform well. If this partnership collapses, Bangladesh will lose by the biggest margin.
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Bangladesh team does not have patient players in their squad, then how will they build a partnership, if players like Mominul Haque and Mushfiqur Rahman get out after collecting only 13 runs, then how will Bangladesh win. Bangladesh team is never able to perform well in such difficult conditions, although Nazmul Hasan Shanto and Shakib Al Hasan have formed a partnership at the last minute. But the players who are in the latter are basically not good at batting, so how can we still chase this huge target and expect to win? 

Mominul Haque and Mushfiqur Rahim are two experienced players, but it was mainly because of their outs that this match became the most feared. Right now Bangladesh team has collected 158 runs for 4 wickets in exchange. Bangladesh team still needs to meet the target of 357 runs to win, I don't expect such a game from Bangladesh team players at all. Because the victory of this game is uncertain for Bangladesh.
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Almost any condition of the Bangladesh team, the opening pair of batsmen are out. But now the balance of the Bangladesh team depends on Nazmul Hasan Shanto and Mominul Haque these two batsmen, although Azmul Hasan Shanto did not perform well in the first innings but the fans of Bangladesh are hopeful for him in this match. If the Bangladesh team can give some good runs, then the Bangladesh team will be able to go ahead, although the batsmen of the Bangladesh team failed by collecting few songs in the first match, but there are enough opportunities in this match. Although Bangladesh will have to chase the highest water score, Bangladesh team must be patient if they can get close to winning this match.
Yep still Bangladesh has handsome chance to be in the game but in my view they has to played very sensible and scored a impactful partnership at least 200 around as they has required more than 300 at current and they already lose their top order too and middle order has to do something unexpected otherwise it will be an easy victory for Indian team and may be possibly that victory shifts momentum from Bangladesh hands which they get from white wash series victory against Pakistan and they will be pushed into his previous awful form. Better things for Indian team in that match is that one of gem finally back in form and score his century after a long time. So let's see how Bangladesh makes difficult or some how impossible things into possible.
It is never possible for Bangladesh to form a big partnership as they have already lost four important wickets. It is sure that Bangladesh will be defeated by a huge margin if they cannot form a partnership like Gill and Panth. Shakib Al Hasan and Nazmul Hasan Shanto are unbeaten on the wicket so far, so unless a big partnership is formed between them, it is a sure thing that they will be all out in the first session in Bangladesh. The lower order batsmen can take Bangladesh to 10 to overs if they are very strong so there is no chance for Bangladesh to win or draw this match.
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Almost any condition of the Bangladesh team, the opening pair of batsmen are out. But now the balance of the Bangladesh team depends on Nazmul Hasan Shanto and Mominul Haque these two batsmen, although Azmul Hasan Shanto did not perform well in the first innings but the fans of Bangladesh are hopeful for him in this match. If the Bangladesh team can give some good runs, then the Bangladesh team will be able to go ahead, although the batsmen of the Bangladesh team failed by collecting few songs in the first match, but there are enough opportunities in this match. Although Bangladesh will have to chase the highest water score, Bangladesh team must be patient if they can get close to winning this match.
Yep still Bangladesh has handsome chance to be in the game but in my view they has to played very sensible and scored a impactful partnership at least 200 around as they has required more than 300 at current and they already lose their top order too and middle order has to do something unexpected otherwise it will be an easy victory for Indian team and may be possibly that victory shifts momentum from Bangladesh hands which they get from white wash series victory against Pakistan and they will be pushed into his previous awful form. Better things for Indian team in that match is that one of gem finally back in form and score his century after a long time. So let's see how Bangladesh makes difficult or some how impossible things into possible.
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Yes, You are right Now win possibility decrease to 0.6% only because Bangladesh loss their 4 key wickets in just 158 runs. Bangladesh openers playing very aggressive but the partnership break at 62 runs. Ravichandran Ashwin Spin bowling performance is outstanding picked 3 important wickets. Bangladesh needs 357 runs to win this match which is very difficult task against the top class bowling line. Najmul Hossain Shanto captain of Bangladesh team playing well so far scored a half century and still playing at 51 runs and shakib al hasan also at carees. This partnership between shakib al hasan and Najmul Hossain Shanto will be very crucial for Bangladesh if they want to fight till the end.

First of all, this squad of Bangladesh was never good in Test format. We have always seen poor performances from Bangladeshi players in the Test format. Even though the match was Bangladesh's home match, Bangladesh had the potential to do well. It is very difficult for Bangladesh to perform well in India's home matches.

Bangladesh gave a big surprise by winning both matches in the Test series against Pakistan. We were all very surprised at this result. But the same thing is unlikely to happen again against India. India team is strong and players are very experienced. So Bangladesh was likely to be defeated by a big margin.
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Yes, You are right Now win possibility decrease to 0.6% only because Bangladesh loss their 4 key wickets in just 158 runs. Bangladesh openers playing very aggressive but the partnership break at 62 runs. Ravichandran Ashwin Spin bowling performance is outstanding picked 3 important wickets. Bangladesh needs 357 runs to win this match which is very difficult task against the top class bowling line. Najmul Hossain Shanto captain of Bangladesh team playing well so far scored a half century and still playing at 51 runs and shakib al hasan also at carees. This partnership between shakib al hasan and Najmul Hossain Shanto will be very crucial for Bangladesh if they want to fight till the end.
In fact, if we compare in terms of quality, the batting and bowling lineup of the Indian team is stronger than the Bangladesh team and for that I think we are getting our expected performance and results. I think Bangladesh will undoubtedly be whitewashed in this Test series. And there is no chance for Bangladesh to win this match. The performance of the first innings shows that the Bangladeshi batsmen failed to tackle the Indian bowlers. And in the second innings, Bangladesh already lost their important four batsmen, now Bangladesh can score up to 250 runs. Where they need to score more than 350 runs to win.

India do have a consistent batting lineup where if a few of them fail, there are more to back it up. They scored a decent score in the first innings which when followed by Bangladesh were not able to score even half of it. India batted quick in second and when were more than 500 runs ahead, they declared and called Bangladesh to bat as they were sure Bangladesh can't make 500 even though they allowed two full days and a half. Test is a format where the true potential of every team is displayed and unlike T20, the batting and bowling is tested to full with very less luck factor. Here, India seems to be well ahead of Bangladesh.
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Yes, You are right Now win possibility decrease to 0.6% only because Bangladesh loss their 4 key wickets in just 158 runs. Bangladesh openers playing very aggressive but the partnership break at 62 runs. Ravichandran Ashwin Spin bowling performance is outstanding picked 3 important wickets. Bangladesh needs 357 runs to win this match which is very difficult task against the top class bowling line. Najmul Hossain Shanto captain of Bangladesh team playing well so far scored a half century and still playing at 51 runs and shakib al hasan also at carees. This partnership between shakib al hasan and Najmul Hossain Shanto will be very crucial for Bangladesh if they want to fight till the end.
In fact, if we compare in terms of quality, the batting and bowling lineup of the Indian team is stronger than the Bangladesh team and for that I think we are getting our expected performance and results. I think Bangladesh will undoubtedly be whitewashed in this Test series. And there is no chance for Bangladesh to win this match. The performance of the first innings shows that the Bangladeshi batsmen failed to tackle the Indian bowlers. And in the second innings, Bangladesh already lost their important four batsmen, now Bangladesh can score up to 250 runs. Where they need to score more than 350 runs to win.
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I will say Bangladesh has good capability. They will have to fix some problems that they have right now.
One of the biggest problems that I have seen them face is the problem of not playing inswing well, like at all.

They have been bowled multiple times in the first innings against India on a ball that's coming in. Even those balls that held its line and came in with the angle, they were unable to play even those balls. For some reason, they seem to be always playing for the outswing.

Anyway, Bangladesh is definitely not in the same category as India in test cricket for sure. Just look at the match that they are playing right now. Bangladesh has scored 158-4 and they still need 357 more to win. And it is the end of day 3. So it is highly unlikely that Bangladesh is going to win the match or even draw.
Despite having win against Pakistan in test series I strongly believe they are far away from having solid team for this format because it's never been easy for them to stay consistent against all opponents in all conditions their domestic system having too many patches which needed to be fixed if they want to have good test team.

In subcontinent, we have Indian management done amazing job as they bring their best pace attack with their long term strategy which is now giving them good advantage into SENA, so things are well-balanced, but just one team is capable of having better results.

Currently, Bangladesh is third rated team in test format which is surely needed to be improved, but this has never been easy while you are having too much political influence and system is also not strong to back your best players their batting department is needed good improvement things are going well in bowling as they are having few good bowlers with good potential.
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The Bangladesh team failed to meet the target of 376 runs in the first innings, and the Bangladesh team was bowled out for just 149 runs. So, the better the Indian team performs in today's second innings, the more difficult it will be for the Bangladesh team and the pressure will be created.  Shubman Gill and Pant form the current partnership in the India team, and Shubman Gill has scored a half-century at the moment. And now he is ready to bat with the aim of scoring a century and is performing in an experienced manner for this test match. 
Indian team is now batting performance without any pressure, and they can succeed in this batting performance. So far India team has given a lead of 345 runs, so India team can collect more runs. And if the Bangladesh team is given a target of 450 runs then the Bangladesh team will fail to win in any way, because the bowling bowlers like Hasan Mahmud are not able to create pressure in any way.

India against Bangladesh squad first test match is still ongoing on crease among these squads and last inning remain for play and Indian squad fully completed their both innings and their performance in these innings were fantastic and their managed high scores which makes this match become more competitive and hard for Bangladesh squad to achieve their scores and secure victory. Yes this is true that Bangladesh squad performance in previous test competition with Pakistan squad was very interesting and their squad succeeded to defeat squad two times and won the competition but this time their competitor is very tough and India squad is one of very big and strong squad worldwide. In last inning of Bangladesh squad, their chance to win this first test match are very slim and they lost their 4 wickets and also included their main batters. I feel that Bangladesh squad will face first defeat in test match against Indian squad very soon.
There is a large different between Pakistan and India squads. One is a world winning squad and the other is surviving in cricket. So how Bangladesh team performed against Pakistan is not the main issue. Bangladesh team performed so badly in the first innings of the 1st test so they are far behind in this match. They need 357 runs to win which I think is not possible for Bangladesh team. Though anything can happen in cricket but in this test there is no chance to expect anything like that considering the situation of the team. If they could have performed in the 2nd innings the way they did in the 1st innings then this margin would have been reduced.
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Yes, they can but why?

SENA rolls out green decks to India, every single time so there is no need to be a nice person when it comes to exploiting your opponent's weakness or taking home advantage.

Indian management worked hard on their fast bowling unit and improved drastically, that's why they started winning in SENA. SENA should also work on its spin department and if some honest efforts are put in then it will surely produce good results.
I want these kind of pitches for the very same reason this will help us to be dominant in the test format when they are winning more matches in SENA countries, we don't have to be nicers but challenging ourselves can be the best thing when we know the opposition has no chance of there's a Turner.

Bangladesh played well today but it's too late at the moment and this is how they should approached in their first innings then the match could have been more interesting but now the result is became obvious we will see India win by tomorrow with atleast 200 runs difference.
To challenge ourselves or step out of our comfort zone, we have a concept of an Away tour, the same rule applies to every team. If India somehow starts mimicking SENA's conditions here in India or ignores spin then there is a good chance that spin will soon become alien art to many and spinners will act like a filler, just to give rest to their pacers in between spells (Already happens in ENG,SA, NZ).



They had a good start but Ashwin-Bumrah ruined the party and now there are more than enough footmarks for Jadeja and Ashwin to exploit, so these 2 folks should have a good time tomorrow. Shanto is there fighting but I'd love to see some fightback from Shakib, Litton and Mehidy. Especially, Shakib, the dude is rated highly in India but lately, he's not doing anything and looks like a dead weight.

 
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There is no possibility that Bangladesh will win this match. As today is only the third day, there is no possibility of the match being a draw. India will set a target of at least 500 runs. I am waiting to see how many runs the Bangladesh team lost in this match. Bangladeshi fans did not expect such a terrible batting against India after their brilliant performance in the last series against Pakistan.
In the second innings, India scored 287 runs with the loss of 4 wickets. And the Indian team declared the innings with a total lead of 514 runs. The Bangladesh team will go into bat after a while after the target of 515 runs. Is there any chance of Bangladesh winning this match? We saw that Bangladesh team managed to play a great innings of 556 runs against Pakistan.

Bangladesh managed to collect only 149 runs in their first innings. We know that Bangladeshi players are always weak in Test format. But even then we did not think that the team would bat so badly. Atleast I thought Bangladesh team could collect more than 250. If Bangladesh's top order can do well, maybe Bangladesh team can collect a big in the second innings.




According to google the winning possibility of Bangladesh is only 2.3%. India's bowling order is very strong. Bhumrah, Siraj, Akash, Ashwin and Jadeja are all very experienced bowlers. And playing an innings of 515 runs against these bowlers is very difficult for any big team. The performance of Bangladesh's batsmen has always been erratic in the Test format. No one but God can tell when this team will play well.

However, although Bangladesh batted very badly in the first innings, in the second innings, the two young Bangladeshi openers are able to bat very responsibly. Bangladesh has already collected 55 runs without losing any wicket. Zakir remains unbeaten with 32 runs from 38 balls and Shadman with 20 runs from 38 balls. If the two opening batsmen can score a century then I would say Bangladesh have a small chance to win.  Tongue
Yes, You are right Now win possibility decrease to 0.6% only because Bangladesh loss their 4 key wickets in just 158 runs. Bangladesh openers playing very aggressive but the partnership break at 62 runs. Ravichandran Ashwin Spin bowling performance is outstanding picked 3 important wickets. Bangladesh needs 357 runs to win this match which is very difficult task against the top class bowling line. Najmul Hossain Shanto captain of Bangladesh team playing well so far scored a half century and still playing at 51 runs and shakib al hasan also at carees. This partnership between shakib al hasan and Najmul Hossain Shanto will be very crucial for Bangladesh if they want to fight till the end.


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Exactly. Anything can happen in cricket. But some of my friends deny this fact and want to insult Bangladesh because their team is weaker. Let's say Bangladesh loses both matches by a big margin. Should we deny the possibility that Bangladesh may put in some effort and draw a single match? Even if I say that some of our friends call us fools, we expect Bangladesh to play some competitive match. They are arrogant and want to deny that they can lose a match to a weaker team. They talk like India never loses a match against any weaker team.
It's highly improbable for Bangladesh to draw or win a test against the Indians in their own backyard stastically speaking, but they will push them out of their comfort zone as we have seen in the Indian first innings.

Bangladesh have come a long way in the test format and they might win a test against India, but that will probably happen in the far off future.

I will say Bangladesh has good capability. They will have to fix some problems that they have right now.
One of the biggest problems that I have seen them face is the problem of not playing inswing well, like at all.

They have been bowled multiple times in the first innings against India on a ball that's coming in. Even those balls that held its line and came in with the angle, they were unable to play even those balls. For some reason, they seem to be always playing for the outswing.

Anyway, Bangladesh is definitely not in the same category as India in test cricket for sure. Just look at the match that they are playing right now. Bangladesh has scored 158-4 and they still need 357 more to win. And it is the end of day 3. So it is highly unlikely that Bangladesh is going to win the match or even draw.
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Yes, they can but why?

SENA rolls out green decks to India, every single time so there is no need to be a nice person when it comes to exploiting your opponent's weakness or taking home advantage.

Indian management worked hard on their fast bowling unit and improved drastically, that's why they started winning in SENA. SENA should also work on its spin department and if some honest efforts are put in then it will surely produce good results.
I want these kind of pitches for the very same reason this will help us to be dominant in the test format when they are winning more matches in SENA countries, we don't have to be nicers but challenging ourselves can be the best thing when we know the opposition has no chance of there's a Turner.

Bangladesh played well today but it's too late at the moment and this is how they should approached in their first innings then the match could have been more interesting but now the result is became obvious we will see India win by tomorrow with atleast 200 runs difference.
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Bangladesh batsman Najmul Hossain Shanto is the captain of the team and he is batting well today and holding the game. Now Shakib Al Hasan and Nazmul Hasan are in quiet batting form after Mominul Hawke's dismissal and if they can form a pair then India can surely go for Dewar's target. But still a lot of runs to collect I think Bangladesh might lose this first test match against India as it will be difficult to complete such a big lead. Can't keep batting patiently for so long. Bangladesh team has already lost 4 wickets. In that case, I think Bangladesh team is more likely to lose this match. If the Bangladesh team could have batted well in the first innings and scored good runs, there would have been a chance to win against India today.

I see Bangladesh already knocked out of the match. The probability of the result coming against Bangladesh in this match is about 99%, that means Bangladesh has already lost the match. Now only waiting for the final result by how many runs they lose. I think Bangladesh will lose by around 200 runs. I would have been optimistic for Bangladesh if the target for Bangladesh was 350-400 runs. But India gave Bangladesh a mountain lead of 514 runs. Bangladesh still need 357 runs to win in the second innings at the end of the 3rd day. Bangladesh have already lost their 4 wickets, Shakib and Mushfiqur are batting. It is almost impossible to win a match against a strong team like India in such a state of the match. They can only bridge the gap. There is no doubt that the entire world would starve if possible.
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Bangladesh has never won a Test match against Pakistan. But a few days ago, Bangladesh team defeated Pakistan in two test matches at Pakistan's home. This is why India is more serious about this series. And they made their best XI against Bangladesh. If the Bangladesh team could not win against Pakistan, then we might have seen some young talented players in the Indian squad.

However, Bangladesh's bowlers bowled well enough in the first innings. But the performance of the batsmen was very bad. The team collected only 149 runs. Batting at a target of 515 runs against India, it is impossible for Bangladesh to win. I guess Bangladesh will score around 250 in their second innings.

Another thing to note is that we should not assume that if Bangladesh beat Pakistan, they will show the same performance and beat India too. India is a far superior side than Pakistan and do not underestimate them under any circumstances.

In this match, it is only a matter of time before Bangladesh will lose all their wickets and lose this test match. They have already lost 4 wickets today. They made 158 runs but runs does not matter now as Bangladesh can't chase such a big score with the remaining 6 wickets. Although the Bangladesh captain Najmul Hossain Shanto batting on 50+ score but only he could not change the fortune of the Bangladesh team. Time is also ample in this match and these things suggest one thing only and that is the Indian win Wink
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Almost any condition of the Bangladesh team, the opening pair of batsmen are out. But now the balance of the Bangladesh team depends on Nazmul Hasan Shanto and Mominul Haque these two batsmen, although Azmul Hasan Shanto did not perform well in the first innings but the fans of Bangladesh are hopeful for him in this match. If the Bangladesh team can give some good runs, then the Bangladesh team will be able to go ahead, although the batsmen of the Bangladesh team failed by collecting few songs in the first match, but there are enough opportunities in this match. Although Bangladesh will have to chase the highest water score, Bangladesh team must be patient if they can get close to winning this match.


Bangladesh batsman Najmul Hossain Shanto is the captain of the team and he is batting well today and holding the game. Now Shakib Al Hasan and Nazmul Hasan are in quiet batting form after Mominul Hawke's dismissal and if they can form a pair then India can surely go for Dewar's target. But still a lot of runs to collect I think Bangladesh might lose this first test match against India as it will be difficult to complete such a big lead. Can't keep batting patiently for so long. Bangladesh team has already lost 4 wickets. In that case, I think Bangladesh team is more likely to lose this match. If the Bangladesh team could have batted well in the first innings and scored good runs, there would have been a chance to win against India today.
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