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Noman Ali and Saud Shakeel both batsmen have performed well for a long time, I consider Noman the best player for today's match. Because he played the best from the batsmen in the top order, the attacking batsmen did not perform well due to which the players of the Pakistan team faced pressure at the end. But now the Pakistan team's runs depend on Saud Shakeel because the few runs he can score more can give the England team a lead of how many runs. So South Shakeel if this batsman can perform well then it will definitely depend on the next players, because the survival or not of this match will depend on South Shakeel's partnership.

Pakistan lost their seventh wicket for 177 runs. I thought maybe Pakistan's innings would stop between 220-240. But I was very surprised by Saud Shakeel and Noman Ali's responsible batting. And now Sajid Khan is also batting well. Pakistan collected 88 runs from Shakeel-Nomal pair. After collecting 45 runs, Noman Ali returned to the dressing room. And Sajid Khan scored an unbeaten 29 off 19 balls. Suad Shakeel is also unbeaten with 124 runs.

Pakistan team managed to take a lead of 46 runs. And this is possible because of Saud Shakeel's responsible batting. If Shakeel did not bat well, Pakistan team would not have been able to collect up to 250 runs.

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Pakistan had a strong bowling order. Almost every bowler in the squad impressed us with their performances. But now the performance of Pakistani bowlers is very bad. I would say Pakistani players need to work harder. Pakistan squad players are very talented. If they work hard we will see good performance from Pakistan again.

England lost 5 wickets before collecting 100 runs. I thought maybe England's innings would stop before 200. But England managed to collect 267 runs. This is quite a large collection considering the pitch. I doubt if Pakistan will able to collect 250+ runs.

Pakistan players did good bowling but faced trouble in the batting as till the launch break, they were batting at 187 in the loss of 7 wickets, and they were trail by 80 runs at that point. Nine Wickets were picked by the magical bowlers from Pakistan who are the only Sajid Khan and Noman Ali but there is a little bit of more effort by Sajid Khan. But in the end, we have also seen the wickets from other bowler who was Zahid Mehmood. Pakistan bowlers did their best but I think the batting problem can be a big issue later in the game for the Pakistan team.

The Pakistan top order was played very poorly and did not score as much as they should have to do, Kamran Ghulam made the century in the last game that is why we have hopes with him but he disappointed us too, while on the other side no Saim Ayub and no Shan Masood. After these three batsmen, finally we got Saud Shakeel who played long and very good innings for the team but Pakistan was losing wickets back to back. Muhammad Rizwan, Aamer Jamal no one played well and now Pakistan is struggling. Saud Shakeel is the last hope for Pakistan and is batting at 88 runs. Let's see if Pakistan will come back in the next innings.

Noman Ali and Saud Shakeel both batsmen have performed well for a long time, I consider Noman the best player for today's match. Because he played the best from the batsmen in the top order, the attacking batsmen did not perform well due to which the players of the Pakistan team faced pressure at the end. But now the Pakistan team's runs depend on Saud Shakeel because the few runs he can score more can give the England team a lead of how many runs. So South Shakeel if this batsman can perform well then it will definitely depend on the next players, because the survival or not of this match will depend on South Shakeel's partnership.

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Pakistan had a strong bowling order. Almost every bowler in the squad impressed us with their performances. But now the performance of Pakistani bowlers is very bad. I would say Pakistani players need to work harder. Pakistan squad players are very talented. If they work hard we will see good performance from Pakistan again.

England lost 5 wickets before collecting 100 runs. I thought maybe England's innings would stop before 200. But England managed to collect 267 runs. This is quite a large collection considering the pitch. I doubt if Pakistan will able to collect 250+ runs.

Pakistan players did good bowling but faced trouble in the batting as till the launch break, they were batting at 187 in the loss of 7 wickets, and they were trail by 80 runs at that point. Nine Wickets were picked by the magical bowlers from Pakistan who are the only Sajid Khan and Noman Ali but there is a little bit of more effort by Sajid Khan. But in the end, we have also seen the wickets from other bowler who was Zahid Mehmood. Pakistan bowlers did their best but I think the batting problem can be a big issue later in the game for the Pakistan team.

Yes, you are right Pakistan top and middle order poorly perform but tail ender noman ali doing well so far. Pakistan current score is 265 runs in a loss of 7 wickets. Noman ali is playing at 45 runs not out and soud shakeel at 106 runs unbeaten so far. Soud Shakeel impressive batting performance scored a well deserved century that helped Pakistan to cross 250 plus runs in first inning of this final test match if series. The current partnership between Noman ali and Soud Shakeel is more then 85 runs. This partnership will helped Pakistan to scored a good runs on board in first inning. England spinner bowling well picked early wickets today but Soud Shakeel caught dropped at 26 runs will be biggest regret for england. Pakistan trail by just 2 runs and then the lead will start. Pakistan will give a lead of more then 50 runs then there chances of winning series is good.

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India are in deep shit, again because of the top order.
They do have a deep batting but Kiwi's tail is up and need brave effort from the middle order. All they need is 1 good partnership and they should be good but have to grind, no easy runs here so far.
Kiwis must tighten their grip and go for the kill. Not many teams get a sniff of winning a series in India and when they do they must cash in.

Both Yashasvi Jaiswal and Shubman Gill had their eye in, they were in their 30s and one of them needed to play a big innings but not to be. Then Virat Kohli missed a juicy full toss and added to the Indian trouble. New Zealand bowlers Mitchell Santner and Glenn Phillips are fully pumped up and Tim Southee's next spell can be devastating too. New Zealand just need to keep the pressure and the wickets will come by automatically.

The New Zealand team also doing good this time too. New Zealand lost one wicket earlier at the over of 7.5 which was not good for them and at that stage, I thought New Zealand couldn't make a good target but at the seam time, I knew it is the test game, latter in the game there were type of batmen appear who will change the game and I was right as Devon Conway made such a good score (in first innings) and played very long innings in short time, made good runs and valuable runs for the team and New Zealand came to the safe Zone.

New Zealand lost their fourth wicket by 123 runs. However, Captain Tom Latham is still at the crease after collecting 66 runs. Tom Latham is batting responsibly. Washington Sundar is able to bowl very controlled bowling in the second innings as well as in the first innings. By bowling 15 overs, he was able to pick up important wickets of Washington Sundar.

But in the second innings I expected to see a big innings from Rachin Ravindra. In the first innings as well, Rachin Ravindra scored 65 runs and Conway scored 76 runs. Both these New Zealand batsmen failed to play well in the second innings. Conway was out with 17 runs and Ravindra 9 runs.

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Quote from: virasog on October 25, 2024, 12:35:48 AM

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India are in deep shit, again because of the top order.

They do have a deep batting but Kiwi's tail is up and need brave effort from the middle order. All they need is 1 good partnership and they should be good but have to grind, no easy runs here so far.

Kiwis must tighten their grip and go for the kill. Not many teams get a sniff of winning a series in India and when they do they must cash in.

Both Yashasvi Jaiswal and Shubman Gill had their eye in, they were in their 30s and one of them needed to play a big innings but not to be. Then Virat Kohli missed a juicy full toss and added to the Indian trouble. New Zealand bowlers Mitchell Santner and Glenn Phillips are fully pumped up and Tim Southee's next spell can be devastating too. New Zealand just need to keep the pressure and the wickets will come by automatically.

The New Zealand team also doing good this time too. New Zealand lost one wicket earlier at the over of 7.5 which was not good for them and at that stage, I thought New Zealand couldn't make a good target but at the seam time, I knew it is the test game, latter in the game there were type of batmen appear who will change the game and I was right as Devon Conway made such a good score (in first innings) and played very long innings in short time, made good runs and valuable runs for the team and New Zealand came to the safe Zone.

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New Zealand team can't collect big. Indian bowlers especially Washington Sundar bowled very well. But is there any guarantee that the Indian team will be able to collect big?
We saw in the first match that after scoring only 46 runs in the first innings, India scored a huge total of 462 in the second innings. From this it can be understood that the performance of Indian batsmen is not regular now. So I would not be at all surprised if India lose all their wickets before collecting 200 runs. There is even a high possibility of this happening.

Well i think that the Indian team is strong, yes they failed in one innings but this does not mean that they will do the same mistake in the 2nd test 1st innings too. I don't think that they will be all out before 200 or less as you are predicting. The reason is that they have no pressure in this innings as they already know that New Zealand team are all out at 259 runs and even if they played badly they can make this small score easily. It only requires one big partnership and that's all. Indian bowlers did a good job yesterday and I do hope that Indian batsmen do the same good batting today.

Maybe the Indian batsmen will be able to play well in the second innings. In the first match as well we saw India amass 460+ in the second innings after losing all wickets for just 46 runs in the first innings. But will we see such events in every match?

The Indian team mustered only 156. And the team was behind by a big margin of 102 runs. At the moment, New Zealand has lost 3 wickets and collected 123 runs. Now the New Zealand team is leading by 226 runs. Can India win this match if New Zealand sets a target of more than 350? Considering the pitch condition, I would say if the target is more than 350 then India's chances of winning are very low.

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Pakistan had a strong bowling order. Almost every bowler in the squad impressed us with their performances. But now the performance of Pakistani bowlers is very bad. I would say Pakistani players need to work harder. Pakistan squad players are very talented. If they work hard we will see good performance from Pakistan again.

England lost 5 wickets before collecting 100 runs. I thought maybe England's innings would stop before 200. But England managed to collect 267 runs. This is quite a large collection considering the pitch. I doubt if Pakistan will able to collect 250+ runs.

Pakistan players did good bowling but faced trouble in the batting as till the launch break, they were batting at 187 in the loss of 7 wickets, and they were trail by 80 runs at that point. Nine Wickets were picked by the magical bowlers from Pakistan who are the only Sajid Khan and Noman Ali but there is a little bit of more effort by Sajid Khan. But in the end, we have also seen the wickets from other bowler who was Zahid Mehmood. Pakistan bowlers did their best but I think the batting problem can be a big issue later in the game for the Pakistan team.

The Pakistan top order was played very poorly and did not score as much as they should have to do, Kamran Ghulam made the century in the last game that is why we have hopes with him but he disappointed us too, while on the other side no Saim Ayub and no Shan Masood. After these three batsmen, finally we got Saud Shakeel who played long and very good innings for the team but Pakistan was losing wickets back to back. Muhammad Rizwan, Aamer Jamal no one played well and now Pakistan is struggling. Saud Shakeel is the last hope for Pakistan and is batting at 88 runs. Let's see if Pakistan will come back in the next innings.

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Quote from: Jewan420 on October 24, 2024, 12:54:11 AM

Irrelevant: There should be no doubt that Shakib is a legend from a cricketing point of view. There is no denying Shakib's contribution in bringing Bangladesh cricket to the world stage. I don't know what is the situation in his country, why he has spread hatred towards him. I don't want to comment on Shakib personally. But cricketer Shakib should have been allowed to play his last match on his country's soil. I am a big fan of Shakib Al Hasan. Through him I love Bangladesh cricket and always support Bangladesh in cricket court.

I don't have anything against him and personally, I like Shakib as a cricketer. He represented Bangladesh for 17 years. He made some mistakes during his career, but I don't take that too seriously. But lately, he joined the political party and became a member of parliament. The Hasina government slowly turned into a dictator government in the last 15 years. He should have stayed away from politics, knowing that it was not good for his cricket career.

Shakib is a business man, and he always looks for opportunities from where he will be able to make money. Most people believes he joined the political party because he wanted some power which he can utilize to make more money and that is backfired him. Currently, there are some supporters of Shakib and they are protesting to bring him back while some others protesting not to allow him to come to the country.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on October 25, 2024, 04:09:18 AM

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Pakistan had a strong bowling order. Almost every bowler in the squad impressed us with their performances. But now the performance of Pakistani bowlers is very bad. I would say Pakistani players need to work harder. Pakistan squad players are very talented. If they work hard we will see good performance from Pakistan again.
England lost 5 wickets before collecting 100 runs. I thought maybe England's innings would stop before 200. But England managed to collect 267 runs. This is quite a large collection considering the pitch. I doubt if Pakistan will able to collect 250+ runs.

Pakistan players did good bowling but faced trouble in the batting as till the launch break, they were batting at 187 in the loss of 7 wickets, and they were trail by 80 runs at that point. Nine Wickets were picked by the magical bowlers from Pakistan who are the only Sajid Khan and Noman Ali but there is a little bit of more effort by Sajid Khan. But in the end, we have also seen the wickets from other bowler who was Zahid Mehmood. Pakistan bowlers did their best but I think the batting problem can be a big issue later in the game for the Pakistan team.

England's batsmen could not bat well against Sajid Khan and Nooman Ali. Sajid Khan took 6 wickets and Noman Ali three wickets. Pakistani fans are satisfied with the performance of the bowlers, but it is not certain whether the Pakistani batsmen can do well. It is impossible to predict the performance of Pakistani batsmen.

Pakistan lost 7 of their batsmen very quickly. But right now Nomal Ali and Saud Shakeel are batting very responsibly. Pakistan have already collected 49 runs from this pair. Pakistan collected 226 runs after losing 7 wickets. If these two batsmen stay at the crease, Pakistan has a chance of 300+ collection. Saud Shakeel is capable of playing big innings.

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Quote from: Tony116 on October 24, 2024, 02:11:45 PM

Pakistan had a strong bowling order. Almost every bowler in the squad impressed us with their performances. But now the performance of Pakistani bowlers is very bad. I would say Pakistani players need to work harder. Pakistan squad players are very talented. If they work hard we will see good performance from Pakistan again.

England lost 5 wickets before collecting 100 runs. I thought maybe England's innings would stop before 200. But England managed to collect 267 runs. This is quite a large collection considering the pitch. I doubt if Pakistan will able to collect 250+ runs.

Pakistan players did good bowling but faced trouble in the batting as till the launch break, they were batting at 187 in the loss of 7 wickets, and they were trail by 80 runs at that point. Nine Wickets were picked by the magical bowlers from Pakistan who are the only Sajid Khan and Noman Ali but there is a little bit of more effort by Sajid Khan. But in the end, we have also seen the wickets from other bowler who was Zahid Mehmood. Pakistan bowlers did their best but I think the batting problem can be a big issue later in the game for the Pakistan team.

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England were not able to collect big in their first innings. So many of us thought that the Pakistan team would be able to take the lead. But as usual the performance of Pakistan's batsmen is very erratic in this match as well. Except Saud Shakeel, no other batsman can bat better. Saud Shakeel remains unbeaten with 84 runs. And Pakistan team lost 7 wickets for 177 runs. At the moment, Pakistan's collection is 206 runs.

If Pakistan can't take the lead then there is a high chance of Pakistan losing this match. Although the Pakistani bowlers bowled very well in the first half. I would say it is very important for Pakistan to take a lead of at least 20/30 runs. If not, Pakistan will lag behind in the match.

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India are in deep shit, again because of the top order.

They do have a deep batting but Kiwi's tail is up and need brave effort from the middle order. All they need is 1 good partnership and they should be good but have to grind, no easy runs here so far.

Kohli and Rohit keep embarassing themselves. 1 and 0? Seriously? It's tough to believe that India is struggling against a side that was totally out of form before this series. Santner and Phillips are on fire.

New Zealand totally have a great chance to create history now, but I still feel the odds are 50:50 at the moment. It all comes down to how close the Indians get to the first innings target.

Rohit and Kohli are the most experienced batsmen in the Indian squad. Even in the first match we saw that we could not play well in the first innings. Despite having a lot of talented batsmen in the squad, India failed to collect big. Even in the second match, India was not able to bat well. Indian batsmen managed to collect only 156 runs. The Indian team was behind New Zealand by 103 runs.

New Zealand are batting very well in their second innings. It seems that New Zealand will be able to provide a big target in this match. The New Zealand team is now leading by 179 runs. New Zealand's batsmen scored 76 runs with the loss of one wicket. Tom Latham scored 37 and Will Young remained unbeaten on 23. More than 300+ targets can be easily provided by New Zealand players.

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End of day 1 itself I predicted this to be tough and the Indian team going to struggle. Losing an early wicket is the reason, and my prediction is everything went accordingly. For India, the spinners gave the break, and for the New Zealand team, the same happened through Santner. The New Zealand team has started the second inning in a comfortable way, which means for sure the team will cross 300+ runs. By the third day, we can see New Zealand declaring or ending its innings, giving a target of 400 to 450 runs. Surely India can't reach such a target, and the test will be over by the fourth day.

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Quote from: Haunebu on October 25, 2024, 12:39:52 AM

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India are in deep shit, again because of the top order.

They do have a deep batting but Kiwi's tail is up and need brave effort from the middle order. All they need is 1 good partnership and they should be good but have to grind, no easy runs here so far.

Kohli and Rohit keep embarassing themselves. 1 and 0? Seriously? It's tough to believe that India is struggling against a side that was totally out of form before this series. Santner and Phillips are on fire.

New Zealand totally have a great chance to create history now, but I still feel the odds are 50:50 at the moment. It all comes down to how close the Indians get to the first innings target.

Not sure about Kohli but IMO it's the last WTC cycle for Rohit.

They are in ditches but surprisingly still everyone saying it's 50:50, even bookies are going with the same sort of odds for both teams. To me, the series is on the line and this might be the best shot for the Kiwis because it's only 3 test match series and not 5. They have a golden opportunity to create history and break a decade old winning streak of this Indian team.

To avoid this, India needs some miracle.

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India vs New Zealand, 1st day of 2nd test too went interesting. New Zealand batting first was all out for 259. Their start was not bad as they had 197 for 3 wickets at a time. But they lost the rest 7 wickets making just 62 runs. All the later 7 wickets for Washington Sundar, 5 of them bold and one lbw. It was a great day for Washington Sundar who made his personal best figure on bowling. Another player to take rest of the 3 wickets was Ravichandran Ashwin.
India batting at the evening too lost Rohit Sharma at duck. They are trying to play slow and keep the wickets for the day as the day is nearly over.

The New Zealand team had a great start, and the end didn't go well. Anyhow, the better start made the New Zealand team reach 259 runs. India had opened the innings, but the start isn't good, and I'm sure the India team is going to struggle. Spin bowlers have dominated the day, and Ashwin holds the record for taking the highest number of wickets in the Maharashtra Cricket Association Stadium. For now the winning opportunity is found high with India, but the bowling of New Zealand will be good, and the scenario could change in the upcoming days.

Yeah, In second innings Bangladesh made 307 runs and set the target of 106 runs to South Africa Bangladesh team played well in second innings but main reason of losing this match they did not make big score in first innings which created pressure on them. Mehidy Hasan Miraz and Jaker Ali played a brilliant partnership of 138 runs Mehidy Hasan played 97 runs innings but all in vain South Africa team easily chased the target with loss of only three wickets Tony de Zorzi made 41 runs while Tristan Stubbs scored match winning 30 runs. Taijul Islam takes three wickets overall excellent performance by South Africa team in first game Kagiso Rabada spell was brilliant he takes 9 wickets in both innings. The second test game will be started from 29 October at Chittagong.

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Quote from: JSRAW on October 25, 2024, 12:18:10 AM

India are in deep shit, again because of the top order.

They do have a deep batting but Kiwi's tail is up and need brave effort from the middle order. All they need is 1 good partnership and they should be good but have to grind, no easy runs here so far.

Kohli and Rohit keep embarassing themselves. 1 and 0? Seriously? It's tough to believe that India is struggling against a side that was totally out of form before this series. Santner and Phillips are on fire.

New Zealand totally have a great chance to create history now, but I still feel the odds are 50:50 at the moment. It all comes down to how close the Indians get to the first innings target.

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Quote from: JSRAW on October 25, 2024, 12:18:10 AM

India are in deep shit, again because of the top order.

They do have a deep batting but Kiwi's tail is up and need brave effort from the middle order. All they need is 1 good partnership and they should be good but have to grind, no easy runs here so far.

Kiwis must tighten their grip and go for the kill. Not many teams get a sniff of winning a series in India and when they do they must cash in.

Both Yashasvi Jaiswal and Shubman Gill had their eye in, they were in their 30s and one of them needed to play a big innings but not to be. Then Virat Kohli missed a juicy full toss and added to the Indian trouble. New Zealand bowlers Mitchell Santner and Glenn Phillips are fully pumped up and Tim Southee's next spell can be devastating too. New Zealand just need to keep the pressure and the wickets will come by automatically.

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India are in deep shit, again because of the top order.

They do have a deep batting but Kiwi's tail is up and need brave effort from the middle order. All they need is 1 good partnership and they should be good but have to grind, no easy runs here so far.

Kiwis must tighten their grip and go for the kill. Not many teams get a sniff of winning a series in India and when they do they must cash in.

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Quote from: Minecache on October 24, 2024, 01:14:16 PM

New Zealand team can't collect big. Indian bowlers especially Washington Sundar bowled very well. But is there any guarantee that the Indian team will be able to collect big?

We saw in the first match that after scoring only 46 runs in the first innings, India scored a huge total of 462 in the second innings. From this it can be understood that the performance of Indian batsmen is not regular now. So I would not be at all surprised if India lose all their wickets before collecting 200 runs. There is even a high possibility of this happening.

Well i think that the Indian team is strong, yes they failed in one innings but this does not mean that they will do the same mistake in the 2nd test 1st innings too. I don't think that they will be all out before 200 or less as you are predicting. The reason is that they have no pressure in this innings as they already know that New Zealand team are all out at 259 runs and even if they played badly they can make this small score easily. It only requires one big partnership and that's all. Indian bowlers did a good job yesterday and I do hope that Indian batsmen do the same good batting today.

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Quote from: ThemePen on October 24, 2024, 07:44:04 PM

England batted for long time so Aamer Jamal did not need to bowl much. Sajid Khan and Noman Ali did great job taking nine wickets together. Their partnership worked well so no other bowlers were needed. But Pakistan top batsmen struggled. Losing three key players early put a lot of pressure on team. Pakistan top batsmen need to do better and provide stability. They must work together to change game momentum especially after Sajid and Noman impressive bowling. For now Pakistani bowlers have done their work and now its on batsmen what they will do?

Yes you are right Sajid Khan and Noman Ali did great job taking nine wickets together. They worked well as team so no other bowlers were needed. However Pakistan top batsmen did not played well. Losing key players early put pressure on team. Now Pakistan top batsmen must work together and stay strong to change game. And you are right Sajid and Noman bowled impressively now it is the batsmen turn. Pakistan bowlers did their job now the batsmen must do theirs.

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