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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on February 12, 2021, 02:32:24 AM

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BCCI will remove Virat Kohli from the post of captain if India fails to qualify for the WTC final. Because they have better options. Rahane has proved his mettle by winning the series against Australia. But I should give Virat Kohli some more time. Although his captaincy has been a bit bad now, still he is a quite successful captain considering the statistics of his entire career.

I don't think so. The BCCI has been very supportive of Virat Kohli until now and he is captaining India ever since 2013 (in test format since 2016). Apart from being the captain, he remains as the most important player in the team, with the Indian batting still overdependent on his form. Under such circumstances, I don't expect BCCI to "remove" Kohli from captaincy. The only possibility, is if he voluntarily resigns from the post. And the chances of something like that happening is very low right now.

You are right. The BCCI is very supportive of Virat Kohli. And that is what should be done. Because Virat has performed the duties of captain so diligently so far. Now he is in somewhat off form. Hopefully, in a few days, he will find out his mistakes. Take appropriate steps to correct his mistakes. And go back to the previous destructive form again

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Quote from: LittleBitFunny on February 12, 2021, 02:13:59 AM

BCCI will remove Virat Kohli from the post of captain if India fails to qualify for the WTC final. Because they have better options. Rahane has proved his mettle by winning the series against Australia. But I should give Virat Kohli some more time. Although his captaincy has been a bit bad now, still he is a quite successful captain considering the statistics of his entire career.

I don't think so. The BCCI has been very supportive of Virat Kohli until now and he is captaining India ever since 2013 (in test format since 2016). Apart from being the captain, he remains as the most important player in the team, with the Indian batting still overdependent on his form. Under such circumstances, I don't expect BCCI to "remove" Kohli from captaincy. The only possibility, is if he voluntarily resigns from the post. And the chances of something like that happening is very low right now.

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If by any chance India does not make into the Finals under Kohli's captaincy then do you guys think he will lose his captain's hat. The way India played with England in their first match I think there is a high probability they won't win this series. If they do not win the series then they might now reach the final.

If India lose the series, then there is no chance that they will qualify for the WTC finals at Lord's. But then I am not sure whether Kohli will lose his job if that happens. I have a feeling that by now Kohli has grown bigger than the team. It won't be easy to replace him as far as test captaincy is concerned. Also, there will be resistance to some of the regular players. In the end we will see a repeat of the situation we had a few years back, when the players were divided into two camps, each led by Dhoni and Kohli.

BCCI will remove Virat Kohli from the post of captain if India fails to qualify for the WTC final. Because they have better options. Rahane has proved his mettle by winning the series against Australia. But I should give Virat Kohli some more time. Although his captaincy has been a bit bad now, still he is a quite successful captain considering the statistics of his entire career.

He will not be removed as a capitan even if team India lost all the four games and the entire series because there is no other regular captain in the team. Rahane proved it but the selectors are still in favour of Kohli and his voice got more preferences even at the matches he was not a part of.

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If by any chance India does not make into the Finals under Kohli's captaincy then do you guys think he will lose his captain's hat. The way India played with England in their first match I think there is a high probability they won't win this series. If they do not win the series then they might now reach the final.

If India lose the series, then there is no chance that they will qualify for the WTC finals at Lord's. But then I am not sure whether Kohli will lose his job if that happens. I have a feeling that by now Kohli has grown bigger than the team. It won't be easy to replace him as far as test captaincy is concerned. Also, there will be resistance to some of the regular players. In the end we will see a repeat of the situation we had a few years back, when the players were divided into two camps, each led by Dhoni and Kohli.

BCCI will remove Virat Kohli from the post of captain if India fails to qualify for the WTC final. Because they have better options. Rahane has proved his mettle by winning the series against Australia. But I should give Virat Kohli some more time. Although his captaincy has been a bit bad now, still he is a quite successful captain considering the statistics of his entire career.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on February 11, 2021, 11:53:02 PM

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If by any chance India does not make into the Finals under Kohli's captaincy then do you guys think he will lose his captain's hat. The way India played with England in their first match I think there is a high probability they won't win this series. If they do not win the series then they might now reach the final.

If India lose the series, then there is no chance that they will qualify for the WTC finals at Lord's. But then I am not sure whether Kohli will lose his job if that happens. I have a feeling that by now Kohli has grown bigger than the team. It won't be easy to replace him as far as test captaincy is concerned. Also, there will be resistance to some of the regular players. In the end we will see a repeat of the situation we had a few years back, when the players were divided into two camps, each led by Dhoni and Kohli.

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New Zealand might be in good form but they didn't play much test cricket in away condition and last time they went to play against Australia in Australia. They faced a whitewashed, they have a problem of getting choked when playing against Aussie. That's a only reason i gave advantage to Aussie.

For me, if it is NZ vs AUS, then both will be having equal chances. They will be playing in Lord's and both the teams won't have the home advantage. Australia is over-dependent on a few players, such as Steve Smith and Marnus Labuschagne. On the other hand, New Zealand is a well balanced team and they are not dependent on anyone. But then, Australia have players such as Steve Smith, who can win matches in his own. NZ lacks a player of that calibre. That said, I don't want to make any predictions until the India vs England series is over.

If we have Australia vs New Zealand then most chances. Australia will win because even New Zeland is better team but when they are facing mostly they play under pressure which is really bad for them. They need to do some work on better mind set specially against Australia because now they are one of best team in Cricket world and they can achieve any thing they have good leadership good team unit just need to play good against Australia for win.

Seeing Australia's performance against India, I don't think Australia will be able to win a series if a series will be held between Australia and New Zealand. The New Zealand team is stable enough now. They are playing very well. So I think both teams will have equal chances to win the series. Players make a lot of mistakes on the ground. The players of the team who make fewer mistakes, they will win. Because both teams have enough talented players.

We are not talking about series we are here talking about WTC final which is going to held in Lord's and New Zeland is already in and second team is going to be decided after this series because right now three teams in hunt after first test match now Australia is hot favourit and then England and India in line for this second spot.
Right now we are just 36 hours away from second test match between India and England any one give update about weather pitch could be very good for all supporters of this test match.

If by any chance India does not make into the Finals under Kohli's captaincy then do you guys think he will lose his captain's hat. The way India played with England in their first match I think there is a high probability they won't win this series. If they do not win the series then they might now reach the final.

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Quote from: teosanru on February 11, 2021, 03:59:04 PM

Chennai's pitch is one of the highest turning tracks in the country. I won't be too surprised if India manages to keep another full-time spin bowler in the side. I am not so sure about the selection of Shahbaz Nadeem in the second match. I always thought Kuldeep Yadav is a much better option as he has an unorthodox style of action which becomes quite unplayable after you have batted the whole day and are exhausted. Moreover, with such a good turn on the pitch, he could do wonders if he sticks with the correct line and length. I feel Indian batsmen should practice playing Jack Leech. He is the best spinner that England has.

From what I have heard, they are preparing a pitch that will offer more support to the spinners for the next match. According to ESPN-Cricinfo, unlike the case with the pitch for the first match (where they used red soil), the pitch for the second match will have black cotton soil on top and red soil at the base. The top layer (comprised of black cotton soil) will dry up faster and along with that the spinners will witness more turn for their deliveries.

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England and India are playing best mate game, both changed their position after 1st test. Australia will watch every match of this series. Their WTC finals dreams depends on it.

If the series ends in a draw, then the WTC finals will be between Australia and New Zealand. I personally want the final to be played between England and New Zealand, after all the drama we had during the 2019 CWC finals. I still regard New Zealand as the real winners in that final match. England managed to win (on paper) only due to generous help from the umpires, who granted 5 runs from a single ball, despite Ben Stokes deflecting the throw to boundary.

I am considering the match more to be dependent on the toss and batting first team has the better chances of winning the test. Well if England win the toss then chances of them winning the series rises and India would have to come back strongly after losing in their home ground and their morale would also be down with the loss. Rohit and Rahane if can stay long on the pitch they can build their innings well then later.

Chennai's pitch is one of the highest turning tracks in the country. I won't be too surprised if India manages to keep another full-time spin bowler in the side. I am not so sure about the selection of Shahbaz Nadeem in the second match. I always thought Kuldeep Yadav is a much better option as he has an unorthodox style of action which becomes quite unplayable after you have batted the whole day and are exhausted. Moreover, with such a good turn on the pitch, he could do wonders if he sticks with the correct line and length. I feel Indian batsmen should practice playing Jack Leech. He is the best spinner that England has.

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New Zealand might be in good form but they didn't play much test cricket in away condition and last time they went to play against Australia in Australia. They faced a whitewashed, they have a problem of getting choked when playing against Aussie. That's a only reason i gave advantage to Aussie.

For me, if it is NZ vs AUS, then both will be having equal chances. They will be playing in Lord's and both the teams won't have the home advantage. Australia is over-dependent on a few players, such as Steve Smith and Marnus Labuschagne. On the other hand, New Zealand is a well balanced team and they are not dependent on anyone. But then, Australia have players such as Steve Smith, who can win matches in his own. NZ lacks a player of that calibre. That said, I don't want to make any predictions until the India vs England series is over.

If we have Australia vs New Zealand then most chances. Australia will win because even New Zeland is better team but when they are facing mostly they play under pressure which is really bad for them. They need to do some work on better mind set specially against Australia because now they are one of best team in Cricket world and they can achieve any thing they have good leadership good team unit just need to play good against Australia for win.

Seeing Australia's performance against India, I don't think Australia will be able to win a series if a series will be held between Australia and New Zealand. The New Zealand team is stable enough now. They are playing very well. So I think both teams will have equal chances to win the series. Players make a lot of mistakes on the ground. The players of the team who make fewer mistakes, they will win. Because both teams have enough talented players.

We are not talking about series we are here talking about WTC final which is going to held in Lord's and New Zeland is already in and second team is going to be decided after this series because right now three teams in hunt after first test match now Australia is hot favourit and then England and India in line for this second spot.
Right now we are just 36 hours away from second test match between India and England any one give update about weather pitch could be very good for all supporters of this test match.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on February 11, 2021, 01:36:35 AM

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England and India are playing best mate game, both changed their position after 1st test. Australia will watch every match of this series. Their WTC finals dreams depends on it.

If the series ends in a draw, then the WTC finals will be between Australia and New Zealand. I personally want the final to be played between England and New Zealand, after all the drama we had during the 2019 CWC finals. I still regard New Zealand as the real winners in that final match. England managed to win (on paper) only due to generous help from the umpires, who granted 5 runs from a single ball, despite Ben Stokes deflecting the throw to boundary.

I am considering the match more to be dependent on the toss and batting first team has the better chances of winning the test. Well if England win the toss then chances of them winning the series rises and India would have to come back strongly after losing in their home ground and their morale would also be down with the loss. Rohit and Rahane if can stay long on the pitch they can build their innings well then later.

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New Zealand might be in good form but they didn't play much test cricket in away condition and last time they went to play against Australia in Australia.

So New Zealand always choke when playing in away condition and there is possibility that England might be the second team getting qualified for the WTC and that would be a great match up and the ICC could hype the match as the revenge match for their loss in the ODI world cup and England will win it comprehensively with the form they are in Cheesy

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Wait, India is there to destroy the dreams of everyone and its time to remember what happened to AUS in their home ground. India may lose their first series but still, they got the advantage of winning this series if the right combination of players were chosen. I believe Kohli also working now to find things right because they know the Indian conditions better than anyone.

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Quote from: JSRAW on February 11, 2021, 09:51:53 AM

New Zealand might be in good form but they didn't play much test cricket in away condition and last time they went to play against Australia in Australia.

So New Zealand always choke when playing in away condition and there is possibility that England might be the second team getting qualified for the WTC and that would be a great match up and the ICC could hype the match as the revenge match for their loss in the ODI world cup and England will win it comprehensively with the form they are in Cheesy

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Quote from: Iranus on February 11, 2021, 10:22:42 AM

Seeing Australia's performance against India, I don't think Australia will be able to win a series if a series will be held between Australia and New Zealand. The New Zealand team is stable enough now. They are playing very well. So I think both teams will have equal chances to win the series. Players make a lot of mistakes on the ground. The players of the team who make fewer mistakes, they will win. Because both teams have enough talented players.

You cannot conclude like that, India beat Australia in their last tour as well and everyone thought New Zealand would do the same but the result were entirely different as Australia dominated New Zealand in the three Test matches and you cannot compare how a team could perform because they saw the last series.

Look at the way India was over shadowed completely by England in the first Test match and no one thought consider how India played in Australia with a depleted team.

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New Zealand might be in good form but they didn't play much test cricket in away condition and last time they went to play against Australia in Australia. They faced a whitewashed, they have a problem of getting choked when playing against Aussie. That's a only reason i gave advantage to Aussie.

For me, if it is NZ vs AUS, then both will be having equal chances. They will be playing in Lord's and both the teams won't have the home advantage. Australia is over-dependent on a few players, such as Steve Smith and Marnus Labuschagne. On the other hand, New Zealand is a well balanced team and they are not dependent on anyone. But then, Australia have players such as Steve Smith, who can win matches in his own. NZ lacks a player of that calibre. That said, I don't want to make any predictions until the India vs England series is over.

If we have Australia vs New Zealand then most chances. Australia will win because even New Zeland is better team but when they are facing mostly they play under pressure which is really bad for them. They need to do some work on better mind set specially against Australia because now they are one of best team in Cricket world and they can achieve any thing they have good leadership good team unit just need to play good against Australia for win.

Seeing Australia's performance against India, I don't think Australia will be able to win a series if a series will be held between Australia and New Zealand. The New Zealand team is stable enough now. They are playing very well. So I think both teams will have equal chances to win the series. Players make a lot of mistakes on the ground. The players of the team who make fewer mistakes, they will win. Because both teams have enough talented players.

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Quote from: JSRAW on February 11, 2021, 09:51:53 AM

New Zealand might be in good form but they didn't play much test cricket in away condition and last time they went to play against Australia in Australia. They faced a whitewashed, they have a problem of getting choked when playing against Aussie. That's a only reason i gave advantage to Aussie.

For me, if it is NZ vs AUS, then both will be having equal chances. They will be playing in Lord's and both the teams won't have the home advantage. Australia is over-dependent on a few players, such as Steve Smith and Marnus Labuschagne. On the other hand, New Zealand is a well balanced team and they are not dependent on anyone. But then, Australia have players such as Steve Smith, who can win matches in his own. NZ lacks a player of that calibre. That said, I don't want to make any predictions until the India vs England series is over.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on February 11, 2021, 09:37:28 AM

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I would give advantage to England if they manage to reach the finals. We shouldn't forget that they are playing Finals at Lords. In case of Australia vs New Zealand, advantage goes to Australia and if its India vs New Zealand then Kiwis might win the Championship.

Obviously England will be having an advantage if they reach the finals. With Joe Root in such fine form, and Anderson/Broad destroying the opposition, it will be a very tough task for the other teams to defeat them. However, I would disagree with you on Australia vs New Zealand. Australia lost home series against India recently. Their bowlers (perhaps with the exception of Hazlewood) are not in good form, and the batsmen are also not doing well (with exception of Labuschagne). On the other hand, the New Zealand bowlers are probably the best in test cricket right now, with Kane Williamson and the other batsmen in good form. And when it comes to India vs New Zealand, it is very difficult to make predictions.

New Zealand might be in good form but they didn't play much test cricket in away condition and last time they went to play against Australia in Australia. They faced a whitewashed, they have a problem of getting choked when playing against Aussie. That's a only reason i gave advantage to Aussie.

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Quote from: JSRAW on February 11, 2021, 09:32:48 AM

I would give advantage to England if they manage to reach the finals. We shouldn't forget that they are playing Finals at Lords. In case of Australia vs New Zealand, advantage goes to Australia and if its India vs New Zealand then Kiwis might win the Championship.

Obviously England will be having an advantage if they reach the finals. With Joe Root in such fine form, and Anderson/Broad destroying the opposition, it will be a very tough task for the other teams to defeat them. However, I would disagree with you on Australia vs New Zealand. Australia lost home series against India recently. Their bowlers (perhaps with the exception of Hazlewood) are not in good form, and the batsmen are also not doing well (with exception of Labuschagne). On the other hand, the New Zealand bowlers are probably the best in test cricket right now, with Kane Williamson and the other batsmen in good form. And when it comes to India vs New Zealand, it is very difficult to make predictions.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on February 11, 2021, 01:36:35 AM

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England and India are playing best mate game, both changed their position after 1st test. Australia will watch every match of this series. Their WTC finals dreams depends on it.

If the series ends in a draw, then the WTC finals will be between Australia and New Zealand. I personally want the final to be played between England and New Zealand, after all the drama we had during the 2019 CWC finals. I still regard New Zealand as the real winners in that final match. England managed to win (on paper) only due to generous help from the umpires, who granted 5 runs from a single ball, despite Ben Stokes deflecting the throw to boundary.

I would give advantage to England if they manage to reach the finals. We shouldn't forget that they are playing Finals at Lords. In case of Australia vs New Zealand, advantage goes to Australia and if its India vs New Zealand then Kiwis might win the Championship.

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Quote from: JSRAW on February 10, 2021, 09:34:34 AM

England and India are playing best mate game, both changed their position after 1st test. Australia will watch every match of this series. Their WTC finals dreams depends on it.

If the series ends in a draw, then the WTC finals will be between Australia and New Zealand. I personally want the final to be played between England and New Zealand, after all the drama we had during the 2019 CWC finals. I still regard New Zealand as the real winners in that final match. England managed to win (on paper) only due to generous help from the umpires, who granted 5 runs from a single ball, despite Ben Stokes deflecting the throw to boundary.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on February 10, 2021, 08:58:04 AM

Rahane-Pujara are suitable for test format, but they need to perform consistently. And finally, Kuldeep is just unlucky. His case is similar to that of Natarajan, as he doesn't have the backing of major cabals.

What i have noticed in the past several series is that India does win if Rahane or Pujara plays well and score runs if not they are going to loose the match. They dominated Australia apart from the first match because either one of them stepped up their game and played a much longer innings.

I did not understand what you meant by backing of cabals Huh

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