Topic: Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod] - page 684. (Read 124912 times)
ROFLMAO..... India in deep $hit right now.. Pant and Sundar gone and Kohli left high and dry at the crease. Now I don't know for how long Ashwin may be able to defend against Anderson and the spinners. But after him, it's a bunch of genuine tailenders - Ishant, Nadeem and Bumrah. Archer must be salivating at the prospect of bowling against them. 69 overs remain in this match, and India is left with 4 wickets. Anderson has got 3 wickets for 7 runs. The amount of reverse swing this guy generate is just insane..... the commentators were calling him as the "sultan of swing" and I'd say that they are absolutely spot on.
What a freaking collapse ladies. Didn't expect that!!
This is wake up call
I think toss is a great decisive factor in these matches.
Toss was important but India won countless games in hometurf despite losing the toss, so it would be pretty pathetic excuse if Kohli repeats the same lol. I think Indian team still in hangover of Australian tour. This is wake up call
Its over for India..
Only 2 big 100s can save India now, seems very tough task here if you ask me despite Kohli-Pant-Sunder still there. Need a hell lot of effort from remaining batsmen, once again. If they want draw.
Pant gone too. I feel Sundar batted much better than the whole team in the previous innings and he is in the middle with captain Kohli and it's just 11:00 a.m. and full day of play is left. I think toss is a great decisive factor in these matches. England while batting first knew that pitch would turn after it ages in later days so they batted 2 full days to make sure they score as much as possible. But yes I have generally seen India winning the series after losing the first match. So maybe once again this is an indication. Only 2 big 100s can save India now, seems very tough task here if you ask me despite Kohli-Pant-Sunder still there. Need a hell lot of effort from remaining batsmen, once again. If they want draw.
Its over for India..
Only 2 big 100s can save India now, seems very tough task here if you ask me despite Kohli-Pant-Sunder still there. Need a hell lot of effort from remaining batsmen, once again. If they want draw.
Only 2 big 100s can save India now, seems very tough task here if you ask me despite Kohli-Pant-Sunder still there. Need a hell lot of effort from remaining batsmen, once again. If they want draw.
With almost 74 overs remaining today, I don't have much hope for India. Especially after witnessing that double-wicket over from James Anderson (he could have got 3 in the same over, but umpire Nitin Menon didn't approved when Rahane was trapped leg-before). Now Pant is someone who scores at a rate of more than 1 run per ball, irrespective of the format. So there can be only two outcomes if he is at the crease - either India wins the match, or they loses it. The other lower order batsman (Sundar, Ashwin.etc) may be more inclined to play in a defensive manner.
Its over for India..
Only 2 big 100s can save India now, seems very tough task here if you ask me despite Kohli-Pant-Sunder still there. Need a hell lot of effort from remaining batsmen, once again. If they want draw.
Only 2 big 100s can save India now, seems very tough task here if you ask me despite Kohli-Pant-Sunder still there. Need a hell lot of effort from remaining batsmen, once again. If they want draw.
India lost two wickets in the morning session, Jack Leach is getting good purchase from the wicket and he was able to trap Cheteshwar Pujara and James Anderson is getting reverse swing and he is troubling the batsman and uprooted the wicket of Shubman Gill. The only thing i do not understand is the DRS system. Rahane was trapped in front and in the replay the ball was going to hit the middle stump and since it was not umpires call it was adjudged not out .
Edit:
Ajinkya Rahane is gone the very next ball another beauty from Anderson with his reverse swing. India is struggling at 92 for 4.
Edit:
Ajinkya Rahane is gone the very next ball another beauty from Anderson with his reverse swing. India is struggling at 92 for 4.
Did England decision to not allow the follow on prove incorrect because if they would asked India to bat and even if India had taken a lead of say 50 - 100 provided England wrapped up India quick again in second innings then England would have better chance of winning this test as they could even had made this score by playing T20 like match in the end if need be. Now, if India could survive tomo then for India it would be as good as wining the match considering the first three days of the test match being.
This was what I was also thinking. But the usual excuses were being given, that the English bowlers were tired and the batsmen don't want to bat on 5th day in a pitch that offers a lot of support for the bowlers. But personally I think they could have enforced the follow on. They had a lead of 241, and there was no way that India could score anything above 300-350 in their second innings. Now they don't have enough time to take the remaining wickets, as the Indian batsmen (especially those in lower order) are very good in defending.
Yes the pitch is a lot different then in Australia but with the win against Australia chasing a big total will give the Indian team confidence that they can chase this total down and maybe even get the win. I think if they can have wickets in hand heading into the second session we might see them go for the win but if they lose quick wickets they will try play for the draw which we also saw them do against Australia so I think India has a big chance to win.
I usually watch the match highlights and the pitch is the main difference between the Australian win and the series now, the soil is loose and whenever a ball is bowled some portion of soil puffs up and you will not see that in Australian pitches nor in England, in a pitch like this it is impossible to score fast. The player who can play in the back foot might survive in pitches like these. 
I wouldn't count India out of getting the win yet as we saw what they were able to achieve against Australia playing in Australia. Yes the pitch is a lot different then in Australia but with the win against Australia chasing a big total will give the Indian team confidence that they can chase this total down and maybe even get the win. I think if they can have wickets in hand heading into the second session we might see them go for the win but if they lose quick wickets they will try play for the draw which we also saw them do against Australia so I think India has a big chance to win.
Against Australia India has reached the target of 328, and the same this time keeps the England team have additional plans to stop the Indian players. This time the target is almost 92 runs higher than the previous match target. This gives strength to the England team. However the winning percentage of India based on data is 6% and for England it is 34% and to draw is the rest. Let us wait and see the result.
Even if they didn't how did Ashwin magically spun the ball to take 6 quick wickets and England getting all out on 178?
The pitch is the magician, the England spinners will also shine in the final day with the way Bess bowled in the first innings he will probably be the pick of the bowler for England and it is not an easy pitch to bat in the last two days.Thirdly what the hell is Rohit Sharma doing in the team? taking a very important spot of some youngster who can perform way better? At this point of time, there is cut-throat competition in the team for a place you just can't get away by scoring any runs in 4 consecutive games. India might have to take a tough decision on him pretty soon.
Will the team take a decision to remove Rohit Sharma from the team after this match, i highly doubt that. He will be under pressure in the next match and if he does not perform then they will be forced to replace him At this point, my eyes are once again on Rishab Pant. If we can do this in Australia where it was a pure bowling pitch against the world class Australian bowling attack with an India-A team we can definitely do it again with our mainstream team now. But I think India's first try will be for a draw.
Rishab Pant will try to attack and with the ball spinning too much i think he will not perform in the final day, it all depends upon how Pujara Kohli and Rahane perform as you need a solid player at one end if India needs to draw the match.
Hey guys what a hell of a match this is becoming. I didn't really saw the match today but just saw the scores and India are back in the game now. First thing I am surprised about is why didn't England just gave away a follow-on when they had a lead of more than 200? Even if they didn't how did Ashwin magically spun the ball to take 6 quick wickets and England getting all out on 178? Thirdly what the hell is Rohit Sharma doing in the team? taking a very important spot of some youngster who can perform way better? At this point of time, there is cut-throat competition in the team for a place you just can't get away by scoring any runs in 4 consecutive games. India might have to take a tough decision on him pretty soon. At this point, my eyes are once again on Rishab Pant. If we can do this in Australia where it was a pure bowling pitch against the world class Australian bowling attack with an India-A team we can definitely do it again with our mainstream team now. But I think India's first try will be for a draw.
First Answer, England captain want bowlers take some rest after very long bowling session. Second now wicket is doing some good for spinners and its really key for England in last day play because they also have Bess and Leach both can screw Indian batting line up. Now surely its time for Rohit Sharma to consider about test format because in long run he is really poor which is not good for team. Rishab and few other youngsters doing much better hopefully last day we will have some good fight between bat and ball all options available India, England and Draw. Even if they didn't how did Ashwin magically spun the ball to take 6 quick wickets and England getting all out on 178?
The pitch is the magician, the England spinners will also shine in the final day with the way Bess bowled in the first innings he will probably be the pick of the bowler for England and it is not an easy pitch to bat in the last two days.Thirdly what the hell is Rohit Sharma doing in the team? taking a very important spot of some youngster who can perform way better? At this point of time, there is cut-throat competition in the team for a place you just can't get away by scoring any runs in 4 consecutive games. India might have to take a tough decision on him pretty soon.
Will the team take a decision to remove Rohit Sharma from the team after this match, i highly doubt that. He will be under pressure in the next match and if he does not perform then they will be forced to replace him At this point, my eyes are once again on Rishab Pant. If we can do this in Australia where it was a pure bowling pitch against the world class Australian bowling attack with an India-A team we can definitely do it again with our mainstream team now. But I think India's first try will be for a draw.
Rishab Pant will try to attack and with the ball spinning too much i think he will not perform in the final day, it all depends upon how Pujara Kohli and Rahane perform as you need a solid player at one end if India needs to draw the match.
Hey guys what a hell of a match this is becoming. I didn't really saw the match today but just saw the scores and India are back in the game now. First thing I am surprised about is why didn't England just gave away a follow-on when they had a lead of more than 200? Even if they didn't how did Ashwin magically spun the ball to take 6 quick wickets and England getting all out on 178? Thirdly what the hell is Rohit Sharma doing in the team? taking a very important spot of some youngster who can perform way better? At this point of time, there is cut-throat competition in the team for a place you just can't get away by scoring any runs in 4 consecutive games. India might have to take a tough decision on him pretty soon. At this point, my eyes are once again on Rishab Pant. If we can do this in Australia where it was a pure bowling pitch against the world class Australian bowling attack with an India-A team we can definitely do it again with our mainstream team now. But I think India's first try will be for a draw.
Now, if India could survive tomo then for India it would be as good as wining the match considering the first three days of the test match being.
India might not only survive, but win this one if someone plays a Stokes style innings and my bet is on Kohli to recover his form and score a lot while stringing together a huge partnership with Rahane on the other end.Kohli is great when it comes to chasing huge scores which is why India could actually win this one though this is a risky approach since draw seems like the more favorable option for them.
India would not attempt to go for a win as couple of quick wickets and suddenly the pressure would be a lot more than before. So instead they would just try to negotiate the overs as much as possible so that towards the end they can ensure they are able to draw the test match and that would be the biggest achievement itself since they were not in the game. Also, if Kohli try to pace has innings at quick rate as going for a win and if loses his wicket then a lot of question could arise as bating on last day with average required above 4 is not at all an easy task.
Did England decision to not allow the follow on prove incorrect because if they would asked India to bat and even if India had taken a lead of say 50 - 100 provided England wrapped up India quick again in second innings then England would have better chance of winning this test as they could even had made this score by playing T20 like match in the end if need be.
You need to consider the hot and humid weather they are playing, it is Chennai and a visiting team cannot keep on bowling and force a follow on without resting the bowlers. The pitch is behaving oddly with uneven bounce and it is possible for India to draw the match, it all depends on how they approach the match tomorrow morning, i do believe India will not go for the win.
Now, if India could survive tomo then for India it would be as good as wining the match considering the first three days of the test match being.
India might not only survive, but win this one if someone plays a Stokes style innings and my bet is on Kohli to recover his form and score a lot while stringing together a huge partnership with Rahane on the other end.Kohli is great when it comes to chasing huge scores which is why India could actually win this one though this is a risky approach since draw seems like the more favorable option for them.
~
Not going to be easy for England. Among their spinners, only Dom Bess picked up wickets in the first innings. Both Jack Lech and Joe Root went for plenty of Runs.
Joe Root just bowled two overs, the first over he just gave away a run but his next over the batsman attacked him and he is not even a regular bowler. Dom Bess is the trump card and leach is getting purchase from the wicket and India needs to play exceptionally well to draw the match and i am going with England to win the match as the pitch will not help for defensive batting.Not going to be easy for England. Among their spinners, only Dom Bess picked up wickets in the first innings. Both Jack Lech and Joe Root went for plenty of Runs.
But the only difference here is that the Indian batsmen are in very good form, and their morale is quite high after the series in Australia.
If the top order can stay in the crease till the afternoon session then the middle order could do the rest as witnessed in the Australian series but it is a big hurdle and it is difficult to replicate the same magic twice.Summery : England dominated the game throughout all 4 days and they deserve to win here (Saying this as a test cricket fan)
England just need to pick 9 more wickets to win the match, India have shown resistance in Australia by defending the entire day and whether they can do in a pitch like Chennai which is favoring the spinners especially in the final day and the wicket of Rohit Sharma was a reminder how clueless the batsman can be in reading the line and length of the ball.Not going to be easy for England. Among their spinners, only Dom Bess picked up wickets in the first innings. Both Jack Lech and Joe Root went for plenty of Runs. Leach will be relieved after getting the wicket of Rohit Sharma, but it is not going to be easy bowling against Kohli, Rahane and Pujara tomorrow. I guess Joe Root will bowl with Bess and Leach for most of the time, with short spells given to Archer and Anderson in between. Getting 9 wickets in 90 overs, that too in the final day of the test sounds very much probable. But the only difference here is that the Indian batsmen are in very good form, and their morale is quite high after the series in Australia.
Did England decision to not allow the follow on prove incorrect because if they would asked India to bat and even if India had taken a lead of say 50 - 100 provided England wrapped up India quick again in second innings then England would have better chance of winning this test as they could even had made this score by playing T20 like match in the end if need be. Now, if India could survive tomo then for India it would be as good as wining the match considering the first three days of the test match being.
~
Not going to be easy for England. Among their spinners, only Dom Bess picked up wickets in the first innings. Both Jack Lech and Joe Root went for plenty of Runs.
Joe Root just bowled two overs, the first over he just gave away a run but his next over the batsman attacked him and he is not even a regular bowler. Dom Bess is the trump card and leach is getting purchase from the wicket and India needs to play exceptionally well to draw the match and i am going with England to win the match as the pitch will not help for defensive batting.Not going to be easy for England. Among their spinners, only Dom Bess picked up wickets in the first innings. Both Jack Lech and Joe Root went for plenty of Runs.
But the only difference here is that the Indian batsmen are in very good form, and their morale is quite high after the series in Australia.
If the top order can stay in the crease till the afternoon session then the middle order could do the rest as witnessed in the Australian series but it is a big hurdle and it is difficult to replicate the same magic twice. Jump to: