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Quote from: Sithara007 on June 21, 2022, 10:45:25 AM

^^^^ I like Border-Gavaskar Trophy better when it is played in Australia. Nowadays India just dominates test matches that are played at home, irrespective of the opponent. When the series is played in the Southern hemisphere, it becomes more entertaining and competitive. I like Ashes, notwithstanding which country is hosting the series. The Trans-Tasman Trophy is another enjoyable test series, partly due to all the bad blood which exists between both the sides that take part in it. But the undisputed champion is India vs Pakistan test series, which in all probability will not take place for the next two decades.

Lol sorry didi but this one cracked me up Grin

as i've never heard anyone saying this about Trans-Tasman trophy. It's good for Kiwis bashing from OZ point of view but not exciting to watch, individual contests are exceptional tho. The way i see it NZ is Australia's SL (similar to Ind-SL cricket relationship)

Ashes in Australia is one-sided affair tbh Undecided

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Quote from: Sithara007 on June 21, 2022, 09:22:03 PM

Quote from: pakhitheboss on June 21, 2022, 08:11:27 PM

Nothing comes before the Indian vs Pakistan series on any format. The amount of enthusiasm and uncertainty that comes on my mind by just imagining a game between the two arch rival is unimaginable. The only hope now left to watch these two countries play will be in an ICC trophy.

Such a series would bring windfall in revenues for both the BCCI and PCB. But the problem here is that the BCCI is awash with cash after the auction of the IPL media rights, and they are not really concerned about any shortfall arising as a result of the India vs Pakistan series not happening. As things stand, the PCB will be more concerned about the series when compared to the BCCI. I sincerely hope that all the politics will be set aside some time in the future and the series will go ahead. That needs moderation from both the sides.

BCCI is not worried about this series. They are a board rich enough. And recently they got a huge amount of money from IPL. So even if BCCI does not gain financially in this series, it will not face any loss. However, it is very important for PCB. I would be happy if Pakistan vs India series will be held. Because we have not had the good fortune to watch such a series for a long time. While the Pakistan board is keen to play this series, I am not sure if BCCI will be interested in hosting this series.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on June 21, 2022, 08:11:27 PM

Nothing comes before the Indian vs Pakistan series on any format. The amount of enthusiasm and uncertainty that comes on my mind by just imagining a game between the two arch rival is unimaginable. The only hope now left to watch these two countries play will be in an ICC trophy.

Such a series would bring windfall in revenues for both the BCCI and PCB. But the problem here is that the BCCI is awash with cash after the auction of the IPL media rights, and they are not really concerned about any shortfall arising as a result of the India vs Pakistan series not happening. As things stand, the PCB will be more concerned about the series when compared to the BCCI. I sincerely hope that all the politics will be set aside some time in the future and the series will go ahead. That needs moderation from both the sides.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on June 21, 2022, 10:45:25 AM

^^^^ I like Border-Gavaskar Trophy better when it is played in Australia. Nowadays India just dominates test matches that are played at home, irrespective of the opponent. When the series is played in the Southern hemisphere, it becomes more entertaining and competitive. I like Ashes, notwithstanding which country is hosting the series. The Trans-Tasman Trophy is another enjoyable test series, partly due to all the bad blood which exists between both the sides that take part in it. But the undisputed champion is India vs Pakistan test series, which in all probability will not take place for the next two decades.

Nothing comes before the Indian vs Pakistan series on any format. The amount of enthusiasm and uncertainty that comes on my mind by just imagining a game between the two arch rival is unimaginable. The only hope now left to watch these two countries play will be in an ICC trophy.

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Quote from: S A KHAIR on June 20, 2022, 06:31:10 PM

Test cricket is becoming more and more irrelevant day by day. Almost no one watches test cricket nowadays. Even the really big fans of test cricket have more than with their life and probably don't have enough time right now just like everybody else. And whatever is done it is quite inevitable that that is cricket will not survive for a longer time. So I don't think there is any point in making different divisions now for tests.

As right now test cricket is going most chances we will have big setback in near future because West Indies has no chance for any recovery and after this Sri Lanka, Bangladesh and Zimbabwe are also going down day by day after these teams we have only six teams where some quality is available but from these only B-3 are available for better revenue and arrangements of test cricket remaining threes are also having not good financial back up which is not good sign for them and this format.

Any positive move from ICC will never be coming because they are not available for better and strong future of this game, they have their deep pockets and enjoying these with their agenda.

Right now, the best option is just tried to settle test cricket in two groups, which may be can do something for better quality and finances.

One of the reasons - people like quick games. Like football - where are decision are made quickly.
Also many fans are not used to T20 on one day matches.
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Quote from: S A KHAIR on June 20, 2022, 06:31:10 PM

Test cricket is becoming more and more irrelevant day by day. Almost no one watches test cricket nowadays. Even the really big fans of test cricket have more than with their life and probably don't have enough time right now just like everybody else. And whatever is done it is quite inevitable that that is cricket will not survive for a longer time. So I don't think there is any point in making different divisions now for tests.

As right now test cricket is going most chances we will have big setback in near future because West Indies has no chance for any recovery and after this Sri Lanka, Bangladesh and Zimbabwe are also going down day by day after these teams we have only six teams where some quality is available but from these only B-3 are available for better revenue and arrangements of test cricket remaining threes are also having not good financial back up which is not good sign for them and this format.

Any positive move from ICC will never be coming because they are not available for better and strong future of this game, they have their deep pockets and enjoying these with their agenda.

Right now, the best option is just tried to settle test cricket in two groups, which may be can do something for better quality and finances.

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^^^^ I like Border-Gavaskar Trophy better when it is played in Australia. Nowadays India just dominates test matches that are played at home, irrespective of the opponent. When the series is played in the Southern hemisphere, it becomes more entertaining and competitive. I like Ashes, notwithstanding which country is hosting the series. The Trans-Tasman Trophy is another enjoyable test series, partly due to all the bad blood which exists between both the sides that take part in it. But the undisputed champion is India vs Pakistan test series, which in all probability will not take place for the next two decades.

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We have BGT first (Around feb-March 2023) then Ashes in England (August, may be). My top 3 series...

-Border-Gavaskar Trophy in India. Australia lose most of the time but its always very competitive series. OZ keep Indian team on toes throughout the series which i hardly see from any other team.
- Ashes in England provides non-stop entertainment due to volatile conditions (even Eng vs Ind). Ashes in Australia is waste of time because it always end up as one-sided affair.
- Border-Gavaskar Trophy in Australia. Last 2 series were top notch, especially last one.

Rest of the tests, well lots of if, buts and ehh..

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Quote from: S A KHAIR on June 20, 2022, 06:31:10 PM

Test cricket is becoming more and more irrelevant day by day. Almost no one watches test cricket nowadays. Even the really big fans of test cricket have more than with their life and probably don't have enough time right now just like everybody else. And whatever is done it is quite inevitable that that is cricket will not survive for a longer time. So I don't think there is any point in making different divisions now for tests.

The lack of competitiveness in test format is a big issue. On one side we have matches which are played in the sub-continent on flat tracks, ending as boring draws. On the other hand, we have lop-sided matches involving lower ranking teams such as Bangladesh and Sri Lanka. If the fans want to avoid test cricket, how can we blame them? They are perfectly justified. Personally I don't usually watch test cricket, unless it involves pig-4 nations playing against each other. All that said, when is the next Ashes series going to start?

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Quote from: JSRAW on June 19, 2022, 10:43:21 AM

I don't know anything about associate nations funding so i won't comment on that.

Anyway new ICC chief and many others already said that no one expecting Test cricket to expand to associates nation because it's not practical.

Let's see what happens in next 10-20 years.

LOL.. test cricket expanding to associate nations? The ICC cancelled the 4-day intercontinental cup competition many years ago. And even in second tier test nations such as Sri Lanka and Bangladesh test cricket is becoming irrelevant. Initially I thought that creating three divisions of test cricket will make it more competitive. But we have seen how badly the match between Sri Lanka and Bangladesh went, and both these teams will be in the same division even if some re-organization of test cricket takes place.

Test cricket is becoming more and more irrelevant day by day. Almost no one watches test cricket nowadays. Even the really big fans of test cricket have more than with their life and probably don't have enough time right now just like everybody else. And whatever is done it is quite inevitable that that is cricket will not survive for a longer time. So I don't think there is any point in making different divisions now for tests.

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Quote from: onecall123 on June 20, 2022, 12:09:06 AM

Quote from: eaLiTy on June 19, 2022, 02:17:17 PM

Quote from: YinShuiSiYuan on June 19, 2022, 12:52:48 PM

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The match was over for Bangladesh after they failed miserably in there first innings. Its very difficult to make a come back once you are out on 103 runs. West Indies is not very strong test team these days but still Bangladesh failed to perform good against them. Don't know when we start seeing improvement in Bangladesh test performance.

Bangladesh does have a solid team if they are playing at home but while touring they seems to struggle and if they won the toss then i believe that the situation would have been different considering how West Indies struggles in the longer format against quality bowling. It was an easy win for West Indies in the first Test but i expect Bangladesh to bounce back and perform better in the later part of the series.

It's a 1-0 series lead for the West Indies! This is just a normal display of Bangladesh losing match after match in test cricket. Likewise, past tests are always just study tours for tigers. They'll learn and try not to repeat them in the future. The bowling side of their team was awesome despite their pathetic batting. It is also important to consider the skills of the batters. In order to improve mental strength, some meditation is needed to improve fielding skills.

If Bangladesh wants to perform well in Test format then they have to improve on some small issues. First, players must be patient. No matter how talented a player is, if he is not patient, it is not possible for him to perform well in Test format. Second, the fielding needs to be improved. Missing a catch in a Test match can have a devastating effect. Third, top-order batsmen need to be responsible. If the top order players get out quickly, it becomes very difficult to collect high scores in the match.

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Quote from: onecall123 on June 20, 2022, 12:09:06 AM

It's a 1-0 series lead for the West Indies! This is just a normal display of Bangladesh losing match after match in test cricket. Likewise, past tests are always just study tours for tigers. They'll learn and try not to repeat them in the future. The bowling side of their team was awesome despite their pathetic batting. It is also important to consider the skills of the batters. In order to improve mental strength, some meditation is needed to improve fielding skills.

If teams like Bangladesh are given full test status then teams like Afghanistan and Ireland should also be given test status. I am sure they will improve with time given to Bangladesh. There bowling was good as they manage to get West Indies out on 265 runs after there first inning of 103 runs. Batting is main area where Bangladesh need to focus.

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Quote from: eaLiTy on June 19, 2022, 02:17:17 PM

Quote from: YinShuiSiYuan on June 19, 2022, 12:52:48 PM

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The match was over for Bangladesh after they failed miserably in there first innings. Its very difficult to make a come back once you are out on 103 runs. West Indies is not very strong test team these days but still Bangladesh failed to perform good against them. Don't know when we start seeing improvement in Bangladesh test performance.

Bangladesh does have a solid team if they are playing at home but while touring they seems to struggle and if they won the toss then i believe that the situation would have been different considering how West Indies struggles in the longer format against quality bowling. It was an easy win for West Indies in the first Test but i expect Bangladesh to bounce back and perform better in the later part of the series.

It's a 1-0 series lead for the West Indies! This is just a normal display of Bangladesh losing match after match in test cricket. Likewise, past tests are always just study tours for tigers. They'll learn and try not to repeat them in the future. The bowling side of their team was awesome despite their pathetic batting. It is also important to consider the skills of the batters. In order to improve mental strength, some meditation is needed to improve fielding skills.

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Quote from: JSRAW on June 19, 2022, 10:43:21 AM

I don't know anything about associate nations funding so i won't comment on that.

Anyway new ICC chief and many others already said that no one expecting Test cricket to expand to associates nation because it's not practical.

Let's see what happens in next 10-20 years.

LOL.. test cricket expanding to associate nations? The ICC cancelled the 4-day intercontinental cup competition many years ago. And even in second tier test nations such as Sri Lanka and Bangladesh test cricket is becoming irrelevant. Initially I thought that creating three divisions of test cricket will make it more competitive. But we have seen how badly the match between Sri Lanka and Bangladesh went, and both these teams will be in the same division even if some re-organization of test cricket takes place.

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Quote from: eaLiTy on June 19, 2022, 02:17:17 PM

Quote from: YinShuiSiYuan on June 19, 2022, 12:52:48 PM

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The match was over for Bangladesh after they failed miserably in there first innings. Its very difficult to make a come back once you are out on 103 runs. West Indies is not very strong test team these days but still Bangladesh failed to perform good against them. Don't know when we start seeing improvement in Bangladesh test performance.

Bangladesh does have a solid team if they are playing at home but while touring they seems to struggle and if they won the toss then i believe that the situation would have been different considering how West Indies struggles in the longer format against quality bowling. It was an easy win for West Indies in the first Test but i expect Bangladesh to bounce back and perform better in the later part of the series.

Bangladesh team remains always in crisis - they face so much criticism everytime they land on the field.
Bangladeshi cricket fans cannot tolerate their defeat. and they want team to win everytime they are playing.

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Quote from: YinShuiSiYuan on June 19, 2022, 12:52:48 PM

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The match was over for Bangladesh after they failed miserably in there first innings. Its very difficult to make a come back once you are out on 103 runs. West Indies is not very strong test team these days but still Bangladesh failed to perform good against them. Don't know when we start seeing improvement in Bangladesh test performance.

Bangladesh does have a solid team if they are playing at home but while touring they seems to struggle and if they won the toss then i believe that the situation would have been different considering how West Indies struggles in the longer format against quality bowling. It was an easy win for West Indies in the first Test but i expect Bangladesh to bounce back and perform better in the later part of the series.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on June 19, 2022, 12:40:07 PM

Fortune is always needed to win a match. But when all the players continue to perform poorly, this is definitely their failure. We see the poor performance of Bangladeshi batsmen for a long time. I have not seen any attempt to improve the performance of Bangladeshi players. So now there is nothing to blame fate. Bangladesh has lost because of their own failures, because of their own poor performance.

The match was over for Bangladesh after they failed miserably in there first innings. Its very difficult to make a come back once you are out on 103 runs. West Indies is not very strong test team these days but still Bangladesh failed to perform good against them. Don't know when we start seeing improvement in Bangladesh test performance.

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At the end of the 4th day, West Indies won by 7 wickets. If Bangladesh could have scored 250+ runs in the first innings then the target would have been 300+ then the game would have been better. But that is not in the fortune of Bangladesh. Good luck to the West Indies.

Cricket isn't about the fortune always, especially the test matches. It depends on the performance of the players. Bangladeshi players has played very pathetically in the first innings. They always show such poor performance in test format. Bangladesh is lucky to escape the innings defeat in this test match. The partnership between Shakib and Nurul has saved them to avoid the innings defeat. I think Bangladesh will loss the second test match in the same way.

Fortune is always needed to win a match. But when all the players continue to perform poorly, this is definitely their failure. We see the poor performance of Bangladeshi batsmen for a long time. I have not seen any attempt to improve the performance of Bangladeshi players. So now there is nothing to blame fate. Bangladesh has lost because of their own failures, because of their own poor performance.

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Quote from: repear7 on June 19, 2022, 09:58:01 AM

At the end of the 4th day, West Indies won by 7 wickets. If Bangladesh could have scored 250+ runs in the first innings then the target would have been 300+ then the game would have been better. But that is not in the fortune of Bangladesh. Good luck to the West Indies.

Cricket isn't about the fortune always, especially the test matches. It depends on the performance of the players. Bangladeshi players has played very pathetically in the first innings. They always show such poor performance in test format. Bangladesh is lucky to escape the innings defeat in this test match. The partnership between Shakib and Nurul has saved them to avoid the innings defeat. I think Bangladesh will loss the second test match in the same way.

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Quote from: savetheFORUM on June 19, 2022, 10:49:01 AM

Now Bangla Tigers have very few days for preparation and going into the second test match they need to do something good if they want to have some reasonable result from this series which is looking very difficult because they are not looking like a team just very few individual performances from few players and all others are giving a very poor performance which is not acceptable at this level from them for staying into a good position with this all they can drop out from this position.

The performance of Bangladeshi batsmen in the first Test was disgusting. They are weak in Test format, we all knew that, but such bad batting was not expected. Because the bowling lineup of West Indies is not very strong. If Bangladesh wants to do something good in the second Test, the batsmen must play well. A win or a match draw is impossible if the batsmen do not play well.
Besides, Moinul Haque has been performing badly for a long time and the Bangladesh Board should give him some rest in the series. If he can't perform well, the board shouldn't just give a player a chance in the squad consistently.

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