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Quote from: galambo on January 31, 2022, 11:45:59 AM

Double standards I say. What happens in NZ is nothing to worry its still safe to play while a less serious attack on SL team make Pakistan totally unfit for international cricket. White people have an upper edge over others even in 21st century. I am very much sure even if BAN team was killed in NZ even then people will be saying NZ is safe for cricket.

These double standards working around the world for long time because we all know White people's dog is Tommy and our dog is dog so you can't stop this all just try to improve your education system and quality of life if you want to do some better.

When we have attack in Lahore all players and other officials were safe and just security persons killed during this all so just because of this they stop this all for Pakistan and now one person attacked in Masjid and kill many innocent peoples they are not calling this terrorism it's his individual effort really crap things happening in west, and they are attacking only third world poor countries specially Muslim countries because they know it's very important for future adventures.

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Quote from: teosanru on January 30, 2022, 01:23:16 PM

I think if we look on effects of COVID on cricket, it's the Ranji season which has suffered the most, due to BTC's greed for money, IPL has taken place no matter how many cases are coming daily but Ranji and other domestic leagues have not taken place due to the pandemic, whenever they start you see some cases erupting in some of the part of the country and the league is brought at halt, also it's not feasible to create bio bubbles for these players while they are travelling, I think BCCI should try and conduct these matches at neutral venues instead of Home/Away format, it might make a bit less income for Boards but atleast you will see the domestic season running back once again.

Only Ranji taking a hit.

Other tournaments are already finished because most of em are ODI and T-20 competition but Ranji is 4 days affair, this create more problem for them. Its not like they can relocate complete season to UAE similarly to IPL. Let's hope for the best.

If we think about the Ranji trophy, I think we have to look at a lot of different factors at the same time.

First of all, there is not as much money involved as IPL so obviously, this is not the main focus right now.
also, this is not T20 format so that makes it harder to arrange.
And as there is a lot less money involved people are not also interested in it that much, simple.

It is the oldest cricket trophy that is being played within India. This first class cricket series has 38 team participation which includes regional and club teams. With Ranji trophy it is not about money. At any point this doesn't loss its importance. Even now players are chosen out of the performance from Ranji trophy than from the IPL. Money play big role in IPL, in particular the foreign players participation have made it more popular.

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Quote from: Iranus on January 31, 2022, 11:05:29 AM

Uh, so let me understand this, a bomb blast that happens in Pakistan and Pakistan is really unsafe for any touring team, and amazing happens in New Zealand, in a mosque, on Friday, at the time when people goes to pray, and Bangladesh cricket team were supposed to go there, most probably would have been killed as well if they reached there in time, so it is not an issue at all, right??

I don't mean that what happened in Pakistan is ok or under the circumstances, this should happen, obviously what happened in Pakistan was very bad and obviously, Pakistan has security issues, but bro, come on why different for NZ...

Double standards I say. What happens in NZ is nothing to worry its still safe to play while a less serious attack on SL team make Pakistan totally unfit for international cricket. White people have an upper edge over others even in 21st century. I am very much sure even if BAN team was killed in NZ even then people will be saying NZ is safe for cricket.

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Quote from: teosanru on January 30, 2022, 01:23:16 PM

I think if we look on effects of COVID on cricket, it's the Ranji season which has suffered the most, due to BTC's greed for money, IPL has taken place no matter how many cases are coming daily but Ranji and other domestic leagues have not taken place due to the pandemic, whenever they start you see some cases erupting in some of the part of the country and the league is brought at halt, also it's not feasible to create bio bubbles for these players while they are travelling, I think BCCI should try and conduct these matches at neutral venues instead of Home/Away format, it might make a bit less income for Boards but atleast you will see the domestic season running back once again.

Only Ranji taking a hit.

Other tournaments are already finished because most of em are ODI and T-20 competition but Ranji is 4 days affair, this create more problem for them. Its not like they can relocate complete season to UAE similarly to IPL. Let's hope for the best.

If we think about the Ranji trophy, I think we have to look at a lot of different factors at the same time.

First of all, there is not as much money involved as IPL so obviously, this is not the main focus right now.
also, this is not T20 format so that makes it harder to arrange.
And as there is a lot less money involved people are not also interested in it that much, simple.

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Quote from: Emitdama on January 31, 2022, 12:28:06 AM

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on January 29, 2022, 09:25:07 PM

What do you mean highlighted by Indian media? Pakistani media was the one that highlighted the blast that recently happened in Balochistan. They were debating about it for two days and not only the mainstream media but the complete social media was questioning the Pakistan army. There is nothing new both countries blame each other for everything.

Well there are proofs that whats happening in Balochistan is funded by a neighbor country. Every country has its own internal issues, i remember how closely BAN team survived a killing attempt in NZ but nobody boycott going to NZ for playing cricket. There are matches in the past in Pakistan without any issue.

You can't compare these both countries in same way because both are living in completely different geopolitical area's and have different security and other measurements so if no team boycott New Zealand then it's not mean now all teams having good idea about Pakistan. We have many other serious threats around Pakistan specially after Taliban taking control into Afghanistan and Pakistan is already having history of many terror attacks and other serious concerns which are creating problems for many other countries around the globe.
About media this blame game was in and will be in for many years in future because both countries having many things similar like corruption and hungriness and lack of education with just very few peoples enjoying luxury life and most of the population suffering.

Yes, I totally agree but you can't say that what happened in Pakistan is a very big deal and what happened in New Zealand is nothing, okay?
Pakistan had security issues before and also the recent bomb blast in Pakistan is undeniably a fault of security which shows a major flaw in their security. And I won't be surprised to be honest if teams don't agree to tour Pakistan at this moment.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on January 30, 2022, 10:21:34 PM

Quote from: galambo on January 30, 2022, 12:59:21 PM

Well there are proofs that whats happening in Balochistan is funded by a neighbor country. Every country has its own internal issues, i remember how closely BAN team survived a killing attempt in NZ but nobody boycott going to NZ for playing cricket. There are matches in the past in Pakistan without any issue.

Well.. let's keep politics out of this thread. If you claim that "neighbor country" is responsible for what happening in Balochistan, then they will argue back that Pakistan is also responsible for what is happening in Kashmir. The issue here is security issue within Pakistan and it is foolish to blame anyone else for that. Are you saying that security situation in Pakistan is not the responsibility of the Pakistani government? And now coming to New Zealand, you can't even compare the situation there to that in Pakistan. NZ remains one of the safest countries in the world.

Uh, so let me understand this, a bomb blast that happens in Pakistan and Pakistan is really unsafe for any touring team, and amazing happens in New Zealand, in a mosque, on Friday, at the time when people goes to pray, and Bangladesh cricket team were supposed to go there, most probably would have been killed as well if they reached there in time, so it is not an issue at all, right??

I don't mean that what happened in Pakistan is ok or under the circumstances, this should happen, obviously what happened in Pakistan was very bad and obviously, Pakistan has security issues, but bro, come on why different for NZ...

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I Understand about the bomb blast and I have sympathy for everyone who lost their dear ones that day and everyone who got injured. But the way I see it is the bomb blast that happened in a busy market. 15 August the Australian cricketers are not going to be left in a busy market. Agreed, no risk must be taken when it comes to the safety of the players but in this way we are just consistently neglecting a big region and their cricket fans. But under such situations, I don't think that Australia will be very keen to tour Pakistan.

What the hell?

Multiple people died in a suicide blast, and you are saying that Australia should take this incident lightly. Seriously? I am sure that the Australian players may not go for shopping sprees once they are inside Pakistan, but how can you guarantee that no similar incidents would take place when they travel from the hotel to the stadium, or even within the stadium? If by any chance they pull out of this tour, then I would say that it is perfectly justified. Unless security situation get better, Pakistan can't demand foreign teams touring their country.

In that case about this tour, I think we have a stalemate because Pakistan will not go to another country for this series and Australia will deny this tour because of security reasons. I guess that's the end of the story.

Quote from: pakhitheboss on January 30, 2022, 01:12:35 AM

Don't only blame Indian media, the same is being done by the Pakistan media too. This is a common practice between both countries although it does not affect the Indian side. Yes, it affects the Pakistani side internationally and this is not entirely the fault of India if globally they are being heard. Such incidents should be put in order by the Pakistani government, which they have failed to do so.

I absolutely agree that the media of both countries always try to provoke people and people of these countries are emotional so they actually believe those pieces of stuff but the level of yellow journalism goes on in India I don't believe that it happens anywhere else.

I mean at least Pakistani media does not go around and give false information about the Serena hotel Roll Eyes

. But yes Pakistan should have made better efforts regarding their security which is undeniable.

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Quote from: teosanru on January 30, 2022, 01:23:16 PM

Quote from: JSRAW on January 30, 2022, 01:52:11 AM

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I think if we look on effects of COVID on cricket, it's the Ranji season which has suffered the most, due to BTC's greed for money, IPL has taken place no matter how many cases are coming daily but Ranji and other domestic leagues have not taken place due to the pandemic, whenever they start you see some cases erupting in some of the part of the country and the league is brought at halt, also it's not feasible to create bio bubbles for these players while they are travelling, I think BCCI should try and conduct these matches at neutral venues instead of Home/Away format, it might make a bit less income for Boards but atleast you will see the domestic season running back once again.

Only Ranji taking a hit.

Other tournaments are already finished because most of em are ODI and T-20 competition but Ranji is 4 days affair, this create more problem for them. Its not like they can relocate complete season to UAE similarly to IPL. Let's hope for the best.

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Quote from: galambo on January 30, 2022, 12:59:21 PM

Quote from: pakhitheboss on January 29, 2022, 09:25:07 PM

What do you mean highlighted by Indian media? Pakistani media was the one that highlighted the blast that recently happened in Balochistan. They were debating about it for two days and not only the mainstream media but the complete social media was questioning the Pakistan army. There is nothing new both countries blame each other for everything.

Well there are proofs that whats happening in Balochistan is funded by a neighbor country. Every country has its own internal issues, i remember how closely BAN team survived a killing attempt in NZ but nobody boycott going to NZ for playing cricket. There are matches in the past in Pakistan without any issue.

You can't compare these both countries in same way because both are living in completely different geopolitical area's and have different security and other measurements so if no team boycott New Zealand then it's not mean now all teams having good idea about Pakistan. We have many other serious threats around Pakistan specially after Taliban taking control into Afghanistan and Pakistan is already having history of many terror attacks and other serious concerns which are creating problems for many other countries around the globe.

About media this blame game was in and will be in for many years in future because both countries having many things similar like corruption and hungriness and lack of education with just very few peoples enjoying luxury life and most of the population suffering.

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Quote from: galambo on January 30, 2022, 12:59:21 PM

Well there are proofs that whats happening in Balochistan is funded by a neighbor country. Every country has its own internal issues, i remember how closely BAN team survived a killing attempt in NZ but nobody boycott going to NZ for playing cricket. There are matches in the past in Pakistan without any issue.

Well.. let's keep politics out of this thread. If you claim that "neighbor country" is responsible for what happening in Balochistan, then they will argue back that Pakistan is also responsible for what is happening in Kashmir. The issue here is security issue within Pakistan and it is foolish to blame anyone else for that. Are you saying that security situation in Pakistan is not the responsibility of the Pakistani government? And now coming to New Zealand, you can't even compare the situation there to that in Pakistan. NZ remains one of the safest countries in the world.

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Quote from: JSRAW on July 03, 2021, 06:16:22 AM

Good news for Indian Domestic cricket, BCCI announced their schedule for 2021-2022 season.

~~- Women's One Day League : Sep 21, 2021~~
~~- Women's One Day Challenger Trophy : Oct 27, 2021~~
~~- Syed Mushtaq Ali Trophy : Oct 20, 2021 (Final : Nov 12, 2021)~~
- Ranji Trophy : Nov 16, 2021 to Feb 19, 2022
- Vijay Hazare Trophy : Febr 23, 2022 to Mar 26, 2022

Total 2127 Matches, which includes every age group (Men and Women)

https://twitter.com/BCCI/status/1411273892312854529
Fixtures : https://resources.platform.bcci.tv/bcci/document/2021/07/03/a2b04788-6685-4ca9-971a-9242ce8c94d2/BCCI-Domestic-Media-Release-.pdf

Not a good time for Ranji Players, they have been seeing continuous delay for last 2 years but i think now its going to get a green light.

Ranji Trophy to be played in two phases: Jay Shah writes to state associations

"I write to you to apprise you all that the decks have been cleared and we are set to conduct the Ranji Trophy 2021-22 season shortly," wrote Shah in a letter to the state associations. "My team at the BCCI has worked on a structure where we will conduct the Ranji Trophy this season in two phases. The first phase will begin soon and will comprise the league matches while the knockout leg will be held in the month of June."

Aus W vs Eng W

This one off test turning out to be thriller. 2nd thriller Women test match in my recent memory.

I think if we look on effects of COVID on cricket, it's the Ranji season which has suffered the most, due to BTC's greed for money, IPL has taken place no matter how many cases are coming daily but Ranji and other domestic leagues have not taken place due to the pandemic, whenever they start you see some cases erupting in some of the part of the country and the league is brought at halt, also it's not feasible to create bio bubbles for these players while they are travelling, I think BCCI should try and conduct these matches at neutral venues instead of Home/Away format, it might make a bit less income for Boards but atleast you will see the domestic season running back once again.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on January 29, 2022, 09:25:07 PM

What do you mean highlighted by Indian media? Pakistani media was the one that highlighted the blast that recently happened in Balochistan. They were debating about it for two days and not only the mainstream media but the complete social media was questioning the Pakistan army. There is nothing new both countries blame each other for everything.

Well there are proofs that whats happening in Balochistan is funded by a neighbor country. Every country has its own internal issues, i remember how closely BAN team survived a killing attempt in NZ but nobody boycott going to NZ for playing cricket. There are matches in the past in Pakistan without any issue.

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Quote from: JSRAW on July 03, 2021, 06:16:22 AM

Good news for Indian Domestic cricket, BCCI announced their schedule for 2021-2022 season.

~~- Women's One Day League : Sep 21, 2021~~
~~- Women's One Day Challenger Trophy : Oct 27, 2021~~
~~- Syed Mushtaq Ali Trophy : Oct 20, 2021 (Final : Nov 12, 2021)~~
- Ranji Trophy : Nov 16, 2021 to Feb 19, 2022
- Vijay Hazare Trophy : Febr 23, 2022 to Mar 26, 2022

Total 2127 Matches, which includes every age group (Men and Women)

https://twitter.com/BCCI/status/1411273892312854529
Fixtures : https://resources.platform.bcci.tv/bcci/document/2021/07/03/a2b04788-6685-4ca9-971a-9242ce8c94d2/BCCI-Domestic-Media-Release-.pdf

Not a good time for Ranji Players, they have been seeing continuous delay for last 2 years but i think now its going to get a green light.

Ranji Trophy to be played in two phases: Jay Shah writes to state associations

"I write to you to apprise you all that the decks have been cleared and we are set to conduct the Ranji Trophy 2021-22 season shortly," wrote Shah in a letter to the state associations. "My team at the BCCI has worked on a structure where we will conduct the Ranji Trophy this season in two phases. The first phase will begin soon and will comprise the league matches while the knockout leg will be held in the month of June."

Aus W vs Eng W

This one off test turning out to be thriller. 2nd thriller Women test match in my recent memory.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on January 29, 2022, 09:25:07 PM

What do you mean highlighted by Indian media? Pakistani media was the one that highlighted the blast that recently happened in Balochistan. They were debating about it for two days and not only the mainstream media but the complete social media was questioning the Pakistan army. There is nothing new both countries blame each other for everything.

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Well, Pakistan media is going to do that because they need to raise their voice in such a matter that some current affairs are going to have a solvable chance very quickly. What I was saying is that it is not very rare for the Indian media to make some weird connections from the past occurrence with something that's going on in recent times. And we know how well Indian media can manipulate certain situations.

Don't only blame Indian media, the same is being done by the Pakistan media too. This is a common practice between both countries although it does not affect the Indian side. Yes, it affects the Pakistani side internationally and this is not entirely the fault of India if globally they are being heard. Such incidents should be put in order by the Pakistani government, which they have failed to do so.

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Quote from: laurenB7742 on January 29, 2022, 10:36:22 PM

I Understand about the bomb blast and I have sympathy for everyone who lost their dear ones that day and everyone who got injured. But the way I see it is the bomb blast that happened in a busy market. 15 August the Australian cricketers are not going to be left in a busy market. Agreed, no risk must be taken when it comes to the safety of the players but in this way we are just consistently neglecting a big region and their cricket fans. But under such situations, I don't think that Australia will be very keen to tour Pakistan.

What the hell?

Multiple people died in a suicide blast, and you are saying that Australia should take this incident lightly. Seriously? I am sure that the Australian players may not go for shopping sprees once they are inside Pakistan, but how can you guarantee that no similar incidents would take place when they travel from the hotel to the stadium, or even within the stadium? If by any chance they pull out of this tour, then I would say that it is perfectly justified. Unless security situation get better, Pakistan can't demand foreign teams touring their country.

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I really absolutely do not understand what is the problem with touring Pakistan!!

Check JSRAW's post, just above yours. The Lahore bomb blast resulted in multiple deaths and dozens of injuries. Now how can you say that there is no problem with Pakistan hosting foreign contingents? Now it is up to the Australian government and the players to decide whether they want to tour Pakistan or not. But ever since Taliban came to power in the neighboring Afghanistan, there is no doubt that the security situation in Pakistan has deteriorated. No amount of guarantee from the Pakistan government is going to change that reality.

I Understand about the bomb blast and I have sympathy for everyone who lost their dear ones that day and everyone who got injured. But the way I see it is the bomb blast that happened in a busy market. 15 August the Australian cricketers are not going to be left in a busy market. Agreed, no risk must be taken when it comes to the safety of the players but in this way we are just consistently neglecting a big region and their cricket fans. But under such situations, I don't think that Australia will be very keen to tour Pakistan.

Quote from: pakhitheboss on January 29, 2022, 09:25:07 PM

What do you mean highlighted by Indian media? Pakistani media was the one that highlighted the blast that recently happened in Balochistan. They were debating about it for two days and not only the mainstream media but the complete social media was questioning the Pakistan army. There is nothing new both countries blame each other for everything.

Well, Pakistan media is going to do that because they need to raise their voice in such a matter that some current affairs are going to have a solvable chance very quickly. What I was saying is that it is not very rare for the Indian media to make some weird connections from the past occurrence with something that's going on in recent times. And we know how well Indian media can manipulate certain situations.

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Quote from: galambo on January 29, 2022, 02:38:51 PM

Quote from: laurenB7742 on January 29, 2022, 08:28:20 AM

I really absolutely do not understand what is the problem with touring Pakistan!!

I mean if you want to just look at the Indian news channels and media and predict that some unbelievable terrorist attack is going to happen on the Australian team then my suggestion is just to stay in Australia and better stay in your house, and don't ever go out!! Undecided

I do believe that the situation is not as bad as the media is trying to portray. I think Pakistan have made the right decision and should hold onto their decision.

Whenever there is some country trying to play cricket in Pakistan there is some blast or other such activity which is highlighted by Indian media only. Pakistan officials blame India for sabotaging NZ tour to Pakistan, PSL is underway in Pakistan and its going perfectly fine, there are players from England and Aus taking part in PSL with no problem.

What do you mean highlighted by Indian media? Pakistani media was the one that highlighted the blast that recently happened in Balochistan. They were debating about it for two days and not only the mainstream media but the complete social media was questioning the Pakistan army. There is nothing new both countries blame each other for everything.

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Quote from: laurenB7742 on January 29, 2022, 08:28:20 AM

I really absolutely do not understand what is the problem with touring Pakistan!!

I mean if you want to just look at the Indian news channels and media and predict that some unbelievable terrorist attack is going to happen on the Australian team then my suggestion is just to stay in Australia and better stay in your house, and don't ever go out!! Undecided

I do believe that the situation is not as bad as the media is trying to portray. I think Pakistan have made the right decision and should hold onto their decision.

Whenever there is some country trying to play cricket in Pakistan there is some blast or other such activity which is highlighted by Indian media only. Pakistan officials blame India for sabotaging NZ tour to Pakistan, PSL is underway in Pakistan and its going perfectly fine, there are players from England and Aus taking part in PSL with no problem.

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Quote from: laurenB7742 on January 29, 2022, 08:28:20 AM

I really absolutely do not understand what is the problem with touring Pakistan!!

Check JSRAW's post, just above yours. The Lahore bomb blast resulted in multiple deaths and dozens of injuries. Now how can you say that there is no problem with Pakistan hosting foreign contingents? Now it is up to the Australian government and the players to decide whether they want to tour Pakistan or not. But ever since Taliban came to power in the neighboring Afghanistan, there is no doubt that the security situation in Pakistan has deteriorated. No amount of guarantee from the Pakistan government is going to change that reality.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on January 27, 2022, 11:53:31 PM

you are admitting that the security situation is getting worse. Under such circumstances, how can you expect the Australian board to get the necessary permission from the government? The board may be in favor of touring Pakistan (for obvious reasons), but don't forget the fact that they can't do that unless they are permitted to do so by the federal government. No amount of security protection will be enough, if some major terrorist incident occur in Pakistan during the next few months. If so, then once again the series will be shifted to the UAE.

Right now security situation is not bad as few Indian channels are giving for their own sack things are in control and surely last decision is coming from Government of Australia and CA because they are currently main party in this all I read on few sites and media reports they are monitoring all things with their own way, and they are positive about this tour. Today second match of PSL 7 is already ended with most of the things are under control and franchise have many players from England those all are feeling OK and playing their natural game without any fear or pressure.

As Ramiz Raja is already announced they are not going to play in UAE so if Australia is going to deny this tour then surely this series is going to cancel and not going to play at the UAE or any other part of world.

I really absolutely do not understand what is the problem with touring Pakistan!!

I mean if you want to just look at the Indian news channels and media and predict that some unbelievable terrorist attack is going to happen on the Australian team then my suggestion is just to stay in Australia and better stay in your house, and don't ever go out!! Undecided

I do believe that the situation is not as bad as the media is trying to portray. I think Pakistan have made the right decision and should hold onto their decision.

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