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Quote from: onecall123 on February 08, 2022, 01:16:55 AM

Following the announcement of the squad, we are waiting to roll out the test matches. A trio of spinners has been named in the Australian Test squad for their upcoming tour of Pakistan. Full strength Australian squad announced for Pakistan tour. Australia's top Test side is going to Pakistan with full strength. We are looking forward to this exciting series. Even so, we shouldn't be surprised if a number of them decide to pull out at the last minute.

Without any doubt it's great news from Australia that no big name out of this test squad as few weeks back too many rumours about this squad and few players having concern about security but now all settled and Warner and Starc also in this full strength squad for this tour mean they are looking for full points and better position in WTC table which is also very good.

Even we still have few weeks, but now things are better and security is also having increased in this country with now India is also looking for better and secure IPL in India so most chances we will have no drama in next few months and all will be happened good and secure for all parties after this tour England and New Zealand are also going to visit Pakistan which will increase fan base for cricket community.

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Quote from: onecall123 on February 08, 2022, 01:16:55 AM

Quote from: JSRAW on February 08, 2022, 12:33:28 AM

2 test series are lined up and squads are out from the visitors.

-NZ vs SA
-PAK vs AUS (4 March) Good to see that Aussie are sending full strength team. WTC points are on the line, it should be exciting series. No Langer tho, he's not Aussie's coach anymore. 3 spinners in the squad, that's nice.

"Australia Test squad: Pat Cummins (c), Ashton Agar, Scott Boland, Alex Carey, Cameron Green, Marcus Harris, Josh Hazlewood, Travis Head, Josh Inglis, Usman Khawaja, Marnus Labuschagne, Nathan Lyon, Mitchell Marsh, Michael Neser, Steve Smith (vc), Mitchell Starc, Mitchell Swepson, David Warner"
https://www.cricket.com.au/news/australia-test-squad-tour-of-pakistan-harris-boland-richardson-schedule-george-bailey/2022-02-08

Following the announcement of the squad, we are waiting to roll out the test matches. A trio of spinners has been named in the Australian Test squad for their upcoming tour of Pakistan. Full strength Australian squad announced for Pakistan tour. Australia's top Test side is going to Pakistan with full strength. We are looking forward to this exciting series. Even so, we shouldn't be surprised if a number of them decide to pull out at the last minute.

Australia will be visiting Pakistan after 24 years. This is great news as Australia is sending the full test squad to Pakistan. I do not think a few players from this squad will pull out this time. Already COVID-19 situation is slowly getting under control and IPL is scheduled to be in April unless there is a security concern I do not think there should be a problem.

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Quote from: JSRAW on February 08, 2022, 12:33:28 AM

2 test series are lined up and squads are out from the visitors.

-NZ vs SA
-PAK vs AUS (4 March) Good to see that Aussie are sending full strength team. WTC points are on the line, it should be exciting series. No Langer tho, he's not Aussie's coach anymore. 3 spinners in the squad, that's nice.

"Australia Test squad: Pat Cummins (c), Ashton Agar, Scott Boland, Alex Carey, Cameron Green, Marcus Harris, Josh Hazlewood, Travis Head, Josh Inglis, Usman Khawaja, Marnus Labuschagne, Nathan Lyon, Mitchell Marsh, Michael Neser, Steve Smith (vc), Mitchell Starc, Mitchell Swepson, David Warner"
https://www.cricket.com.au/news/australia-test-squad-tour-of-pakistan-harris-boland-richardson-schedule-george-bailey/2022-02-08

Following the announcement of the squad, we are waiting to roll out the test matches. A trio of spinners has been named in the Australian Test squad for their upcoming tour of Pakistan. Full strength Australian squad announced for Pakistan tour. Australia's top Test side is going to Pakistan with full strength. We are looking forward to this exciting series. Even so, we shouldn't be surprised if a number of them decide to pull out at the last minute.

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2 test series are lined up and squads are out from the visitors.

-NZ vs SA
-PAK vs AUS (4 March) Good to see that Aussie are sending full strength team. WTC points are on the line, it should be exciting series. No Langer tho, he's not Aussie's coach anymore. 3 spinners in the squad, that's nice.

"Australia Test squad: Pat Cummins (c), Ashton Agar, Scott Boland, Alex Carey, Cameron Green, Marcus Harris, Josh Hazlewood, Travis Head, Josh Inglis, Usman Khawaja, Marnus Labuschagne, Nathan Lyon, Mitchell Marsh, Michael Neser, Steve Smith (vc), Mitchell Starc, Mitchell Swepson, David Warner"
https://www.cricket.com.au/news/australia-test-squad-tour-of-pakistan-harris-boland-richardson-schedule-george-bailey/2022-02-08

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Quote from: Theones on February 06, 2022, 10:45:22 AM

Quote from: UmerIdrees on February 05, 2022, 01:50:27 AM

Do not compare the Bangladesh team with Kenya or Zimbabwe. We will soon find bangladesh team coming of the crisis and performing much better.
Bangladesh is the neighbouring country of cricket playing nations (India, Pakistan and srilanka) where there is a lot of craze for cricket. Bangladesh can't remain away for cricket for long and they will regain the form.

Bangladesh is always in crisis they were never a good cricket team. Don't know why icc has given them test status. They have stupid players like Shakib who always have discipline problem. Afghanistan is mush better side then Bangladesh for test status.

What are you saying bro. Bangladesh are a very good cricket team and they deserve to be the test playing sides. They have the capability to beat any team in the world on their day. Yes that discipline problem from players like shakib is not good and must be punished. But Bangladesh is a good cricket playing nation and they will bounce sure come out from crisis.

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Quote from: og kush420 on February 06, 2022, 10:54:52 PM

I think there was national holiday also when they beat Pakistan in 1999 WC. You can see how crazy they are for cricket. If they won any major ICC event they will celebrate it every year. Bangladesh is playing cricket for more then 20 years but still there performance is not appreciable.

Hopefully You remember after this historic win Pakistan create record of 25 wins in a row against Bangladesh and now total telly is 37 matches and 32 win by Pakistan and 5 by Bangladesh it's awful for them as they completely fail to make any impression after having test status which was giving by Pakistan to them on political basis and after this they are still struggling badly even many still saying Bangladesh never deserve this test status because they have very poor quality.

They fail to have some better domestic set up which help them to have some better talent and still having difficulties and just very few good players those are giving some better performance. Now time for them to do some better as they are going to have 25 years with their test status and still very low in all formats ranks.

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Quote from: Vaskiy on February 06, 2022, 05:29:09 PM

Yes, Bangladesh push themselves hard to regain the form. It is a country where national holiday is given on the day Bangladesh won against India. This means there is good support for all forms of cricketing. In such a country funding doesn't look like a big thing. There might be some internal issues which seems limiting the funds. In recent years match fixing has turned to be a big issue. Maybe if the issues were resolved automatically Bangladesh comes back to form.

I think there was national holiday also when they beat Pakistan in 1999 WC. You can see how crazy they are for cricket. If they won any major ICC event they will celebrate it every year. Bangladesh is playing cricket for more then 20 years but still there performance is not appreciable.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on February 05, 2022, 01:50:27 AM

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Quote from: Emitdama on February 04, 2022, 03:18:02 PM

Good point it's not important you have ex cricketer as President then you can do some better you need some better structure and domestic set up as well for this we have many great examples around the globe where non players done great jobs and have historic results it's all about team and management with some desire for your profession and country we are watching Bangladesh for last two decades, and they completely fail to have some better structure and environment for this game even they have roots of cricket in this region for many decades like before independence Pakistan have few matches here as well and there were some good players and facilities were available but recently corruption and attitude completely change things, and now they are going down in quality and passion very badly which is big concern for them.

Bangladesh was weak team even before current chief of Bangladesh cricket took over charge and Bangladesh performance these days is very much down. I fear due to negligence of ICC we might lose another test playing team like we lost Kenya and Zim. Nowadays boards have to do themselves to lift them up don't expect anything from icc.

Do not compare the Bangladesh team with Kenya or Zimbabwe. We will soon find bangladesh team coming of the crisis and performing much better.
Bangladesh is the neighbouring country of cricket playing nations (India, Pakistan and srilanka) where there is a lot of craze for cricket. Bangladesh can't remain away for cricket for long and they will regain the form.

Yes, Bangladesh push themselves hard to regain the form. It is a country where national holiday is given on the day Bangladesh won against India. This means there is good support for all forms of cricketing. In such a country funding doesn't look like a big thing. There might be some internal issues which seems limiting the funds. In recent years match fixing has turned to be a big issue. Maybe if the issues were resolved automatically Bangladesh comes back to form.

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Quote from: blatchcorn on February 05, 2022, 01:28:17 AM

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Bangladesh was weak team even before current chief of Bangladesh cricket took over charge and Bangladesh performance these days is very much down. I fear due to negligence of ICC we might lose another test playing team like we lost Kenya and Zim. Nowadays boards have to do themselves to lift them up don't expect anything from icc.

It is the duty of the respective cricket board to find the talents and money to make the situation better and find ways to make money by selling the broadcast rights and so on rather than waiting for others to help them out. The old players were not at all making money when they played and the money was really low and still they were able to find genuine talented players and with more money than ever before and many are finding it hard to find genuine talents Roll Eyes

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Quote from: Theones on February 06, 2022, 10:45:22 AM

Quote from: UmerIdrees on February 05, 2022, 01:50:27 AM

Do not compare the Bangladesh team with Kenya or Zimbabwe. We will soon find bangladesh team coming of the crisis and performing much better.
Bangladesh is the neighbouring country of cricket playing nations (India, Pakistan and srilanka) where there is a lot of craze for cricket. Bangladesh can't remain away for cricket for long and they will regain the form.

Bangladesh is always in crisis they were never a good cricket team. Don't know why icc has given them test status. They have stupid players like Shakib who always have discipline problem. Afghanistan is mush better side then Bangladesh for test status.

This is completely biased statement from your side they have some very good and talented players, and they can improve this all but sadly recently they have few inner issues or political interference is also too much like we have in few other countries of Asia and Africa, so it's giving them bad view but once they settled this surely their quality will be improved, and we will have some good change in their quality and performance.

Because, recently we have very bad performance from Sri Lanka as well it's happen to many other teams as well but due to their system they settle this all very quickly and in case of Bangladesh it's taking some long time and due to awful behaviour from Shakib there are some concerns as well because he is star player and role model for new generation he needs to be very reasonable for all new generation players.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on February 05, 2022, 01:50:27 AM

Do not compare the Bangladesh team with Kenya or Zimbabwe. We will soon find bangladesh team coming of the crisis and performing much better.
Bangladesh is the neighbouring country of cricket playing nations (India, Pakistan and srilanka) where there is a lot of craze for cricket. Bangladesh can't remain away for cricket for long and they will regain the form.

Bangladesh is always in crisis they were never a good cricket team. Don't know why icc has given them test status. They have stupid players like Shakib who always have discipline problem. Afghanistan is mush better side then Bangladesh for test status.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on February 04, 2022, 09:02:37 PM

Well... I disagree with you on Jagmohan Dalmiya. He never got a chance to play international cricket (although he represented one of the most famous clubs in the Kolkata local competition). Still, when he was the president of the ICC he undertook major measures to boost the popularity of cricket in associate nations. And he was the one who first proposed to include cricket in Olympics. But his downfall started in 2004, when UPA won the elections in India. Srinivasan-Pawar combination captured power and they reversed the policy to popularize cricket. The mafia was in power for one decade and they pushed back the sport by at least 2-3 decades. The damage they did will never be undone.

I was of the view that dalmiya never played international cricket still he proved to be a good manager of BCCI. There is no need for a cricketer to be head of the board, Sachin is extraordinary cricketer still he can be a poor head of BCCi ( just my thought). I am not saying anything against Dalmiya his services will always be remembered.

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Quote from: JSRAW on February 01, 2022, 05:49:57 AM

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This is good article as far as solution is concern: https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/cricket/news/go-back-to-elite-and-plate-system-in-ranji-trophy-ratnakar-shetty-to-bcci/articleshow/69395950.cms

Now it has 4 groups.

Plate - Uttarakhand, Bihar, Puducherry, Meghalaya, Sikkim, Manipur, Nagaland, Arunachal Pradesh, Mizoram (weak teams)
Elite Group C - Rajasthan, Uttar Pradesh, Jharkhand, Odisha, Haryana, Assam, Jammu and Kashmir, Services, Tripura, Goa (okay-ish teams)
Elite Group A and B - All big teams, around 18.

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India should move from a zonal level first class competition from the current state-level setup.

Hmm don't know how it's going to work out.

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I think i got it wrong and it looks like they have changed the grouping, again. Doesn't look perfect but its fine for a time being, no complaints whatsoever in covid times. Complete schedule https://www.timesofsports.com/cricket/ranji-trophy-2022-schedule-squad/

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Quote from: blatchcorn on February 05, 2022, 01:28:17 AM

Quote from: Emitdama on February 04, 2022, 03:18:02 PM

Good point it's not important you have ex cricketer as President then you can do some better you need some better structure and domestic set up as well for this we have many great examples around the globe where non players done great jobs and have historic results it's all about team and management with some desire for your profession and country we are watching Bangladesh for last two decades, and they completely fail to have some better structure and environment for this game even they have roots of cricket in this region for many decades like before independence Pakistan have few matches here as well and there were some good players and facilities were available but recently corruption and attitude completely change things, and now they are going down in quality and passion very badly which is big concern for them.

Bangladesh was weak team even before current chief of Bangladesh cricket took over charge and Bangladesh performance these days is very much down. I fear due to negligence of ICC we might lose another test playing team like we lost Kenya and Zim. Nowadays boards have to do themselves to lift them up don't expect anything from icc.

Do not compare the Bangladesh team with Kenya or Zimbabwe. We will soon find bangladesh team coming of the crisis and performing much better.
Bangladesh is the neighbouring country of cricket playing nations (India, Pakistan and srilanka) where there is a lot of craze for cricket. Bangladesh can't remain away for cricket for long and they will regain the form.

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Quote from: Emitdama on February 04, 2022, 03:18:02 PM

Good point it's not important you have ex cricketer as President then you can do some better you need some better structure and domestic set up as well for this we have many great examples around the globe where non players done great jobs and have historic results it's all about team and management with some desire for your profession and country we are watching Bangladesh for last two decades, and they completely fail to have some better structure and environment for this game even they have roots of cricket in this region for many decades like before independence Pakistan have few matches here as well and there were some good players and facilities were available but recently corruption and attitude completely change things, and now they are going down in quality and passion very badly which is big concern for them.

Bangladesh was weak team even before current chief of Bangladesh cricket took over charge and Bangladesh performance these days is very much down. I fear due to negligence of ICC we might lose another test playing team like we lost Kenya and Zim. Nowadays boards have to do themselves to lift them up don't expect anything from icc.

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Quote from: galambo on February 04, 2022, 12:33:53 PM

Quote from: Marvell1 on February 04, 2022, 11:51:07 AM

And we also can see that even the cricket board are being controlled by non-cricketers or businessmen, right? That's where the actual problem lies.

Have a look at the Bangladesh cricket board for example. Has The President of the Bangladesh cricket board ever played cricket? Like ever?
All I have seen him play is probably blackjack in casinos. Grin

But, he is the head of the Bangladesh cricket board. Sometimes it actually amazes me that this team is still doing reasonably well.

Anyway, unless people can get out of the habit of chasing money the game is not going to reach people at its best and people are obviously not going to be interested.

Head of board slot is purely for management and you don't need to be a cricketer to occupy that slot. The problem with Bangladesh cricket is something else they failed to prove that they have adequate talent in the country which is playing test for over two decades. There were noticeable names like jagmohan dalmiya they never played cricket.

It does not matter who heads the board regardless of that person is a politician, player or businessman. All that person needs to do is to work for the benefit of cricket and the cricket board. Jagmohan Dalmiya was not just an ordinary businessman. He was a cricketer too and had played for a local cricket club in Kolkatta. Before writing anything about him please check his Wikipedia page, here is the link - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jagmohan_Dalmiya

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Quote from: galambo on February 04, 2022, 12:33:53 PM

Head of board slot is purely for management and you don't need to be a cricketer to occupy that slot. The problem with Bangladesh cricket is something else they failed to prove that they have adequate talent in the country which is playing test for over two decades. There were noticeable names like jagmohan dalmiya they never played cricket.

Well... I disagree with you on Jagmohan Dalmiya. He never got a chance to play international cricket (although he represented one of the most famous clubs in the Kolkata local competition). Still, when he was the president of the ICC he undertook major measures to boost the popularity of cricket in associate nations. And he was the one who first proposed to include cricket in Olympics. But his downfall started in 2004, when UPA won the elections in India. Srinivasan-Pawar combination captured power and they reversed the policy to popularize cricket. The mafia was in power for one decade and they pushed back the sport by at least 2-3 decades. The damage they did will never be undone.

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Quote from: galambo on February 04, 2022, 12:33:53 PM

Head of board slot is purely for management and you don't need to be a cricketer to occupy that slot. The problem with Bangladesh cricket is something else they failed to prove that they have adequate talent in the country which is playing test for over two decades. There were noticeable names like jagmohan dalmiya they never played cricket.

Good point it's not important you have ex cricketer as President then you can do some better you need some better structure and domestic set up as well for this we have many great examples around the globe where non players done great jobs and have historic results it's all about team and management with some desire for your profession and country we are watching Bangladesh for last two decades, and they completely fail to have some better structure and environment for this game even they have roots of cricket in this region for many decades like before independence Pakistan have few matches here as well and there were some good players and facilities were available but recently corruption and attitude completely change things, and now they are going down in quality and passion very badly which is big concern for them.

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Quote from: Marvell1 on February 04, 2022, 11:51:07 AM

And we also can see that even the cricket board are being controlled by non-cricketers or businessmen, right? That's where the actual problem lies.

Have a look at the Bangladesh cricket board for example. Has The President of the Bangladesh cricket board ever played cricket? Like ever?
All I have seen him play is probably blackjack in casinos. Grin

But, he is the head of the Bangladesh cricket board. Sometimes it actually amazes me that this team is still doing reasonably well.

Anyway, unless people can get out of the habit of chasing money the game is not going to reach people at its best and people are obviously not going to be interested.

Head of board slot is purely for management and you don't need to be a cricketer to occupy that slot. The problem with Bangladesh cricket is something else they failed to prove that they have adequate talent in the country which is playing test for over two decades. There were noticeable names like jagmohan dalmiya they never played cricket.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on February 03, 2022, 09:32:24 PM

Quote from: pakhitheboss on February 03, 2022, 09:05:54 PM

Cricket is no more a game of gentlemen. The day money got involved it became a game of professional men. I doubt all boards will fall under the same rank. There are a few boards that generate a lot of revenue for ICC and then there are some who live on the money given by ICC. How can they be considered same when money is involved?

Cricket is no more a gentleman's game. And that's not because money got involved, but because of greedy businessmen controlling the ICC. Take the case of every other sports body, be it FIFA, FIH or the IOC. All these bodies are controlled by ex-athletes. And now take the case of the ICC. When was the last time that ICC had a chairman who is a former cricketer? ICC has always been under the control of greedy businessmen and these guys don't have any interest in expanding the popularity of the sport. All they care about is money.

And we also can see that even the cricket board are being controlled by non-cricketers or businessmen, right? That's where the actual problem lies.

Have a look at the Bangladesh cricket board for example. Has The President of the Bangladesh cricket board ever played cricket? Like ever?
All I have seen him play is probably blackjack in casinos. Grin

But, he is the head of the Bangladesh cricket board. Sometimes it actually amazes me that this team is still doing reasonably well.

Anyway, unless people can get out of the habit of chasing money the game is not going to reach people at its best and people are obviously not going to be interested.

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