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Quote from: Mahdirakib on May 31, 2022, 01:45:01 PM

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Mominul Haque steps down as Bangladesh Test captain
I think it is one of the best decisions for the Bangladesh team right now. We know that the Bangladesh team is very weak in Test format. Mominul Haque is a very talented player but his performance in the last few series is very weak. He is not able to concentrate on batting as he is due to perform the duties of captain. As a result, his captaincy and batting performance is deteriorating further. If he resigns from the captaincy, he will be able to give his full attention to improving his batting. This will be beneficial for both Mominul and Bangladesh teams.

It is a great decision indeed. Bangladesh has performed very badly under his leadership. Mominul don't have the capacity to lead a team properly. I think he has lost his form, which is the main reason for his bad performance. Mominul didn't have enough confidence to take the decisions during a match. Anyway, the first test between Bangladesh and West Indies will start on 16th June. Let's see who gets the responsibility to lead Bangladesh team in test format.

It is not disrespectful for the captain to step down voluntarily. However, being out of form for a long time and performing poorly is a disgrace to a senior batsman. Muminul should give his full attention now to his batting. He has to give full effort on his batting. If he continues to practice, he will be able to return to good form. This requires hard practice and strong morale.

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Quote from: onecall123 on June 01, 2022, 03:36:11 AM

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McCullum will do a lot for England in this format; only he can save it. England has announced their test squad for New Zealand. It is great to see Anderson and Broad have been re-called to England's Test squad. It will be interesting to see what happens in the first test against New Zealand. I'm looking forward to seeing them in action.

McCullum is an excellent addition but he doesn't have any magic wand. If they want any success then from now on English batters need to do heavy lifting, they can't always rely on bowlers only.

Atm Broad seat is not confirmed for the first test because management is looking at Overton as he's considered marginally good bat in comparison to Broad.

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English squad - Broad-Jimmy duo is back. Overton is sitting out.

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Kiwis are warming up for their 3 test matches series, which is starting from 2nd June. I guess this series is part of the World Test Championship (Saying this because both countries have history of playing useless series for no reason just like IND and SL)

Anyway this is BlackCaps squad for the first match. After very long time Kane Williamson is back in the team as Captain.

Yes, this test series is part of the world test championship title. Currently the defending champions are ranked sixth and England ranked ninth in the table. This series would be Ben stokes debut as a captain and many have high hopes on him. As it will be played in Lords I feel the English side will have slide advantage.

@pakhitheboss this match will also witness the debut of McCullum their new test coach, and I’m eager to see how he can revive the England team in this format. Furthermore I hope that Stokes can balance the pressure of being the captain, and yet keep performing for the team because he’s one of their most important player.

McCullum will do a lot for England in this format; only he can save it. England has announced their test squad for New Zealand. It is great to see Anderson and Broad have been re-called to England's Test squad. It will be interesting to see what happens in the first test against New Zealand. I'm looking forward to seeing them in action.

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Kiwis are warming up for their 3 test matches series, which is starting from 2nd June. I guess this series is part of the World Test Championship (Saying this because both countries have history of playing useless series for no reason just like IND and SL)

Anyway this is BlackCaps squad for the first match. After very long time Kane Williamson is back in the team as Captain.

Yes, this test series is part of the world test championship title. Currently the defending champions are ranked sixth and England ranked ninth in the table. This series would be Ben stokes debut as a captain and many have high hopes on him. As it will be played in Lords I feel the English side will have slide advantage.

@pakhitheboss this match will also witness the debut of McCullum their new test coach, and I’m eager to see how he can revive the England team in this format. Furthermore I hope that Stokes can balance the pressure of being the captain, and yet keep performing for the team because he’s one of their most important player.

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Quote from: JSRAW on May 31, 2022, 12:53:19 PM

Kiwis are warming up for their 3 test matches series, which is starting from 2nd June. I guess this series is part of the World Test Championship (Saying this because both countries have history of playing useless series for no reason just like IND and SL)

Anyway this is BlackCaps squad for the first match. After very long time Kane Williamson is back in the team as Captain.

Yes, this test series is part of the world test championship title. Currently the defending champions are ranked sixth and England ranked ninth in the table. This series would be Ben stokes debut as a captain and many have high hopes on him. As it will be played in Lords I feel the English side will have slide advantage.

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Quote from: kro55 on May 31, 2022, 11:50:55 AM

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Can someone tell me know how did the ICC decide to make Afghanistan a tear two team in test cricket? On what basis? Because I don't see them being behind Bangladesh and Sri Lanka.

Well... this is an interesting question. In order to receive the "test status", both Afghanistan and Ireland had to make a few adjustments and compromises. The big-4 told them that they would be provided with the nominal test status, but both the teams won't be allowed to play against the full members in test format. In order to formalize this status, the ICC came up with the tier-2 test division, in which Afghanistan and Ireland were placed along with the recently relegated Zimbabwe. There is no promotion-relegation mechanism in test cricket, so it is expected that teams like Afghanistan will stay there forever, no matter how hard they try.

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Quote from: laurenB7742 on May 31, 2022, 10:31:25 AM

Mominul Haque steps down as Bangladesh Test captain

I think it is one of the best decisions for the Bangladesh team right now. We know that the Bangladesh team is very weak in Test format. Mominul Haque is a very talented player but his performance in the last few series is very weak. He is not able to concentrate on batting as he is due to perform the duties of captain. As a result, his captaincy and batting performance is deteriorating further. If he resigns from the captaincy, he will be able to give his full attention to improving his batting. This will be beneficial for both Mominul and Bangladesh teams.

I agree with you. Mamunul's decision was correct. As we have seen in the last few Tests, Mominul has been consistently playing poorly. In most of the innings, he returned to the dressing room with zero runs. In this case, he needs to practice more. If he can concentrate fully on batting, maybe his performance will improve further. Let's see how Muminul performs in the next series.

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Quote from: laurenB7742 on May 31, 2022, 10:31:25 AM

Mominul Haque steps down as Bangladesh Test captain
I think it is one of the best decisions for the Bangladesh team right now. We know that the Bangladesh team is very weak in Test format. Mominul Haque is a very talented player but his performance in the last few series is very weak. He is not able to concentrate on batting as he is due to perform the duties of captain. As a result, his captaincy and batting performance is deteriorating further. If he resigns from the captaincy, he will be able to give his full attention to improving his batting. This will be beneficial for both Mominul and Bangladesh teams.

It is a great decision indeed. Bangladesh has performed very badly under his leadership. Mominul don't have the capacity to lead a team properly. I think he has lost his form, which is the main reason for his bad performance. Mominul didn't have enough confidence to take the decisions during a match. Anyway, the first test between Bangladesh and West Indies will start on 16th June. Let's see who gets the responsibility to lead Bangladesh team in test format.

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Kiwis are warming up for their 3 test matches series, which is starting from 2nd June. I guess this series is part of the World Test Championship (Saying this because both countries have history of playing useless series for no reason just like IND and SL)

Anyway this is BlackCaps squad for the first match. After very long time Kane Williamson is back in the team as Captain.

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Quote from: YinShuiSiYuan on May 30, 2022, 05:33:34 AM

Forget about Srilanka for the moment right now, they have much more serious issues to discuss at home rather then restructuring there domestic cricket setup. I don't think Bangladesh deserve test status at first place, they were wrongfully given this status. Afghanistan is much better side then Bangladesh for test status.

Australia will be visiting Srilanka in the month of June this year. They will be playing three T20, 5 ODI and two test matches. Now my concern is that in the present economical situation will the Australian naide cancel this series or will they visit that country. I am not sure how will they be able to conclude this series wherein the country doesn't have electricity supply or fuel & food supply. I am eager to know what ACB does now as on the past they have cancelled tournaments due to COVID19 or terrorism.

I think this will be good for the Sri Lankan cricket board because they will be able to generate some revenue from this tour but what I am concerned about is that is Sri Lanka going to generate a good enough revenue because of the current situation in Sri Lanka? I don't think too many people are going to go to the stadium to watch cricket.
But I believe Australia is going to visit because they have canceled before and it will be a field day for the press if they cancel again.

Quote from: Sithara007 on May 30, 2022, 10:41:23 AM

Well.. one thing that I would agree is that Afghanistan doesn't deserve to be in tier-2 of the test format. They are at least as good as other teams such as Sri Lanka and Bangladesh. It is very unfair for them to be relegated to the second division, and that means that they hardly get any opportunity to play the 5-day version. IMO, there should be at least 3 divisions in test cricket. The fist division should be comprised of big-4 and one other team that can compete against them (maybe Pakistan?). Second division should be comprised of all the remaining test nations minus Zimbabwe. Then there should be a third division, comprised of Zimbabwe and some of the associate nations such as Nepal and Namibia (and please, not the ones comprised entirely of foreigners).

Afghanistan is a far better team compared to Bangladesh. They are multiple steps ahead of Bangladesh even though they just recently got their test status. It is only a matter of time before they get promoted to tier 1. Actually, they are also better than Sri Lanka.

Can someone tell me know how did the ICC decide to make Afghanistan a tear two team in test cricket? On what basis? Because I don't see them being behind Bangladesh and Sri Lanka.

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Mominul Haque steps down as Bangladesh Test captain

I think it is one of the best decisions for the Bangladesh team right now. We know that the Bangladesh team is very weak in Test format. Mominul Haque is a very talented player but his performance in the last few series is very weak. He is not able to concentrate on batting as he is due to perform the duties of captain. As a result, his captaincy and batting performance is deteriorating further. If he resigns from the captaincy, he will be able to give his full attention to improving his batting. This will be beneficial for both Mominul and Bangladesh teams.

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Quote from: YinShuiSiYuan on May 30, 2022, 05:33:34 AM

Forget about Srilanka for the moment right now, they have much more serious issues to discuss at home rather then restructuring there domestic cricket setup. I don't think Bangladesh deserve test status at first place, they were wrongfully given this status. Afghanistan is much better side then Bangladesh for test status.

Well.. one thing that I would agree is that Afghanistan doesn't deserve to be in tier-2 of the test format. They are at least as good as other teams such as Sri Lanka and Bangladesh. It is very unfair for them to be relegated to the second division, and that means that they hardly get any opportunity to play the 5-day version. IMO, there should be at least 3 divisions in test cricket. The fist division should be comprised of big-4 and one other team that can compete against them (maybe Pakistan?). Second division should be comprised of all the remaining test nations minus Zimbabwe. Then there should be a third division, comprised of Zimbabwe and some of the associate nations such as Nepal and Namibia (and please, not the ones comprised entirely of foreigners).

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Quote from: YinShuiSiYuan on May 30, 2022, 05:33:34 AM

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That was almost three decades ago. The problem is that Sri Lanka has remained where they were in 1996, and all the other teams have surged ahead of them in the meantime. A test nation can't simply progress at international level if all the cricket activity is concentrated in just one city. The same can be said about Bangladesh as well. Sri Lanka needs first class teams and facilities outside Colombo, in cities such as Kandy, Jaffna, Galle and Trincomalee. The SLCB needs to take the initiative and they can't blame the ICC everytime.

Forget about Srilanka for the moment right now, they have much more serious issues to discuss at home rather then restructuring there domestic cricket setup. I don't think Bangladesh deserve test status at first place, they were wrongfully given this status. Afghanistan is much better side then Bangladesh for test status.

Australia will be visiting Srilanka in the month of June this year. They will be playing three T20, 5 ODI and two test matches. Now my concern is that in the present economical situation will the Australian naide cancel this series or will they visit that country. I am not sure how will they be able to conclude this series wherein the country doesn't have electricity supply or fuel & food supply. I am eager to know what ACB does now as on the past they have cancelled tournaments due to COVID19 or terrorism.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on May 29, 2022, 09:24:39 PM

That was almost three decades ago. The problem is that Sri Lanka has remained where they were in 1996, and all the other teams have surged ahead of them in the meantime. A test nation can't simply progress at international level if all the cricket activity is concentrated in just one city. The same can be said about Bangladesh as well. Sri Lanka needs first class teams and facilities outside Colombo, in cities such as Kandy, Jaffna, Galle and Trincomalee. The SLCB needs to take the initiative and they can't blame the ICC everytime.

Forget about Srilanka for the moment right now, they have much more serious issues to discuss at home rather then restructuring there domestic cricket setup. I don't think Bangladesh deserve test status at first place, they were wrongfully given this status. Afghanistan is much better side then Bangladesh for test status.

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Quote from: romero121 on May 29, 2022, 09:29:29 AM

Maybe a league for the test cricket similar to IPL needs to be conducted. Based on the time constraints test cricket have been losing its importance. To strengthen the domestic test cricketing lowering the number of days and conducting a league seems to be a better choice. Whether it is region based or club sided domestic cricket, allowing them to participate in those leagues will be more effective in terms of revenue too.

kevin pietersen also pitching the of idea league based structure for the County Cricket but no one taking him very seriously atm.

In County this might work but in other countries this would be very tough to implement because of budget and i'm not sure how "lowering the number of days" is going to work out as it's already 4 days affair.

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Quote from: YinShuiSiYuan on May 29, 2022, 11:10:17 AM

With same domestic setup Srilanka has won world cup and also produced world class player's. They are having a bad time which will be over soon but I don't understand the problem with BCB they are in test cricket for 23 years while they joined ODI format way before that still there performance is not different then an associate team.

That was almost three decades ago. The problem is that Sri Lanka has remained where they were in 1996, and all the other teams have surged ahead of them in the meantime. A test nation can't simply progress at international level if all the cricket activity is concentrated in just one city. The same can be said about Bangladesh as well. Sri Lanka needs first class teams and facilities outside Colombo, in cities such as Kandy, Jaffna, Galle and Trincomalee. The SLCB needs to take the initiative and they can't blame the ICC everytime.

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Quote from: romero121 on May 29, 2022, 09:29:29 AM

Maybe a league for the test cricket similar to IPL needs to be conducted. Based on the time constraints test cricket have been losing its importance. To strengthen the domestic test cricketing lowering the number of days and conducting a league seems to be a better choice. Whether it is region based or club sided domestic cricket, allowing them to participate in those leagues will be more effective in terms of revenue too.

A League for test cricket is going to be really unrealistic because it will take a long time. Now test cricket is losing its popularity and eventually it will be absolutely dead. I don't think it can be stopped. Under the circumstances, I don't think anyone will want to make any decisions like this. It is actually better to concentrate on the ODI and t20 now. Imagine a cricket board putting a lot of effort into test cricket but not getting the expected revenue and results.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on May 29, 2022, 02:26:49 AM

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Yes, I agree. Bangladesh was all about individual performance meanwhile Sri Lanka was all about team effort. And you obviously cannot win a test match if all the runs are scored by only two of your batsmen. Bangladesh really needs to improve its test cricket.
Bangladesh has to figure out the problems that they are facing in test cricket and work on them. I believe it is not really hard to find out the problems. You just cannot perform like this on a batting friendly pitch at all.

A few months ago, I had mentioned about the problems that are present in the domestic cricket (for both Bangladesh and Sri Lanka). In both these countries, instead of a region-based first class system they have club sides based in the capital city competing in first class competition. Obviously these privately owned clubs are going to prioritize limited overs format, because that is from where they get the revenue. Both the boards (SLCB and BCB) should reformat their domestic setup and take steps to spread cricket outside Colombo and Dhaka respectively.

Honestly, I cannot blame them the world is moving quickly towards limited over cricket and it is obvious that they are going to adjust to it.
The way things are going I really don't think this cricket will be big at all and might not also be played in five or 10 years' time. But that obviously does not mean they stop playing test cricket now.

Quote from: eaLiTy on May 29, 2022, 03:25:44 AM

Considering the debate that is going on here for the past few weeks, they would find fault in the ICC funding for the discrepancies of Sri Lankan Cricket board and Bangladesh cricket board Cheesy

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Domestic tournament should be strengthen by their respective boards and countries like India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh and Afghanistan did not start out as wealthy units nor did West Indies as even in the 90s the payment was not that great compared to this generation as they make money with a single match the players from the 90s would not make in the entire series.
The funds should be used to create facilities and the rest of the things of spreading the game and taking the game to every corner should be taken care by their respective boards.

I believe that the cricket boards also don't show too much interest in test cricket. They also know that the future is limited over cricket and eventually ODI will also lose its popularity. And they also don't get the revenue from test cricket. So, they are also concentrating on limited-overs cricket.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on May 29, 2022, 02:26:49 AM

A few months ago, I had mentioned about the problems that are present in the domestic cricket (for both Bangladesh and Sri Lanka). In both these countries, instead of a region-based first class system they have club sides based in the capital city competing in first class competition. Obviously these privately owned clubs are going to prioritize limited overs format, because that is from where they get the revenue. Both the boards (SLCB and BCB) should reformat their domestic setup and take steps to spread cricket outside Colombo and Dhaka respectively.

With same domestic setup Srilanka has won world cup and also produced world class player's. They are having a bad time which will be over soon but I don't understand the problem with BCB they are in test cricket for 23 years while they joined ODI format way before that still there performance is not different then an associate team.

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Maybe a league for the test cricket similar to IPL needs to be conducted. Based on the time constraints test cricket have been losing its importance. To strengthen the domestic test cricketing lowering the number of days and conducting a league seems to be a better choice. Whether it is region based or club sided domestic cricket, allowing them to participate in those leagues will be more effective in terms of revenue too.

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