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Quote from: Theones on November 28, 2021, 12:56:26 AM

Quote from: jostorres on November 28, 2021, 12:39:00 AM

Yeah, India is struggling right now after losing 5 wickets for 51 runs (with lead is around 110 runs) and with last recognized batsman Shreyas Iyer. New Zealand's pace attack seems better than host's like regardless of flat pitches their pacers are making the most along with spinners which might be the difference between these two sides.

Yesterday we were talking about draw but now its very much on NZ side. With 5 wickets down and as @JSRAW said Saha may not bat so they are 6 down right now. India need to set target of atleast 250 to challenge NZ but with only Lyer as last recognized batsman it looks very much difficult. such bowling was not expected from NZ pacers on such flat pitch.

When two strong teams play against each other, the game can change at any time. India's batting in the first innings looked like they had collected well enough, the second day New Zealand's two openers destroyed the Indian bowlers. At that time it seemed that New Zealand was in complete control of the match. However, after the first two batsmen were out, no other player could play well. As a result, New Zealand lost all their wickets for just 296 runs. Then we guessed that maybe India would easily gave a target more than 300 and win. But now we are seeing the batting disaster of India again. The match will now be controlled again by the New Zealand bowlers.

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Quote from: Minor Miner on November 27, 2021, 08:10:01 PM

Pakshithan has scored 145 runs and has not lost any wicket yet. Bangladesh bowlers are very weak bowling. If the bowlers of Bangladesh cannot bring down these two wickets this morning, then surely Bangladesh will lose this Test match and will suffer a miserable defeat. Pakistan needs only 185 runs. Since they have not lost any wickets yet. So collecting 185 runs is not a difficult task for them.

Things have changed bit after the partnership is broken and suddenly Pakistan have lost four wickets. There are two things which happen here. Either Pakistani batsmen are bowled out within 25- - 260 runs and then Bangladesh play fast and hope they win the match in the last innings.
On the other hand if Pakistan are able to chase 330 runs, then we may be heading towards the draw. Abid Aliis still playing so more chances that Pakistan will chase the 330.

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Quote from: jostorres on November 28, 2021, 12:39:00 AM

Yeah, India is struggling right now after losing 5 wickets for 51 runs (with lead is around 110 runs) and with last recognized batsman Shreyas Iyer. New Zealand's pace attack seems better than host's like regardless of flat pitches their pacers are making the most along with spinners which might be the difference between these two sides.

Yesterday we were talking about draw but now its very much on NZ side. With 5 wickets down and as @JSRAW said Saha may not bat so they are 6 down right now. India need to set target of atleast 250 to challenge NZ but with only Lyer as last recognized batsman it looks very much difficult. such bowling was not expected from NZ pacers on such flat pitch.

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India lost 5 wickets to collect only 51 runs. After playing well in the first innings, they should have collected at least 250 in this innings. If they lose all their wickets before today's lunch break, then New Zealand has a chance to win this match. India's collection is now 82/5. They are ahead by 131 runs. They have to give at least 300 targets to win. I think so.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on November 27, 2021, 09:58:39 PM

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Bangladesh team has been struggling and when you are playing with a team like Pakistan which has performed exceptionally well in the world cup and is in high morale then you will struggle a lot. Pakistan will not have any problem in winning this match too. Unless someone from the Bangladesh side performs way beyond their existing performance, which I doubt.

Bangladesh has remained where they were two decades ago, when they received the test status. There is absolutely no improvement, despite the massive population and popularity of cricket in the country (Pakistan also have similar population, but they have performed exceptionally in the last few years). One reason is that Bangladesh is overdependent on a few star players. If you take out these players, they will be at the risk of losing to associate nations. All the money being pumped in by the ICC over the years in to Bangladesh cricket has been wasted.

Bangladesh is going through a circle of loops without zero progress, which makes me sad. There are many fans of Bangladesh cricket, but not many worthy successors to make replacement its star players. However, they do not have a technically sound player, and lots of things need to be improved. A large portion of the country is crazy about cricket; they should take advantage of this craze to develop talented players. It's up to the BAN cricket board how sincerely they maintain the process.

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Quote from: JSRAW on November 27, 2021, 11:58:36 PM

Indian is in deep mess. 4 down and lead is only 100 runs.

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Yeah, India is struggling right now after losing 5 wickets for 51 runs (with lead is around 110 runs) and with last recognized batsman Shreyas Iyer. New Zealand's pace attack seems better than host's like regardless of flat pitches their pacers are making the most along with spinners which might be the difference between these two sides.

Quote from: JSRAW on November 28, 2021, 12:30:57 AM

They are virtually 6 down. W Saha is struggling with his neck and didn't come to wicket keeping yesterday so there must be serious problem with him so i doubt he'll come to bat and there is no replacement for such injury.

Super substitute cannot bat? I am sorry I am not fully aware of latest rules on substitutions. I guess anything with the lead of 200 to 250 will be dependable but we cannot ignore the fact that currently New Zealand is test champion hence I guess they also got better chances on this test match from here.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on November 27, 2021, 09:07:32 PM

Quote from: Minor Miner on November 27, 2021, 08:10:01 PM

Pakshithan has scored 145 runs and has not lost any wicket yet. Bangladesh bowlers are very weak bowling. If the bowlers of Bangladesh cannot bring down these two wickets this morning, then surely Bangladesh will lose this Test match and will suffer a miserable defeat. Pakistan needs only 185 runs. Since they have not lost any wickets yet. So collecting 185 runs is not a difficult task for them.

Bangladesh is without experienced bowlers like Taskin Ahmed, Shakib al Hasan and Mustafizur and their younger players have failed to perform. On top of that, the Pakistan players are in excellent form. Apart from the century by Liton Das, Bangladesh so far doesn't have much to take away from this match. And remember that this is a home series for them, and the match is being played at Chattogram. If things go on like this, Bangladesh will remain as one of the lowest ranking test teams similar to Zimbabwe.

The Bangladeshi bowler has returned to the track. Especially Taizul Islam is doing very well. Pakistan lost their first wicket by 146 runs. And Pakistan lost 4 wickets for just 182 runs. Abid Ali and Rizwan are now in the crease. If these two batsmen get out before 200 then Pakistan will not be able to cross 330 runs. Bangladesh's captain is now relying more on Taizul. He has done 31 overs. Where Ebadot did 17 overs and Abu Jayed did only 10 overs.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on November 28, 2021, 12:24:32 AM

Quote from: JSRAW on November 27, 2021, 11:58:36 PM

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Indian is in deep mess. 4 down and lead is only 100 runs.

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5 down and India is surely in deep trouble. It all now depends on Ashwin and Iyer they both need to stick to the wicket and score runs. India needs to pass 150 if they want to win this match. Not much batting left for India if any of these two lose wickets. A very good come back by the NZ team.

They are virtually 6 down. W Saha is struggling with his neck and didn't come to wicket keeping yesterday so there must be serious problem with him so i doubt he'll come to bat and there is no replacement for such injury.

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Quote from: JSRAW on November 27, 2021, 11:58:36 PM

^^ Used to have high hope from the Bangladesh but now i don't expect much from them.

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Kiwis are building pressure nicely. Puji and Rahane's bad form continue at home, i think one of em is about to get drop for the next match. Kohli is coming so they need to make a spot for him and dropping Shreyas after century would be tough choice.

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Indian is in deep mess. 4 down and lead is only 100 runs.

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5 down and India is surely in deep trouble. It all now depends on Ashwin and Iyer they both need to stick to the wicket and score runs. India needs to pass 150 if they want to win this match. Not much batting left for India if any of these two lose wickets. A very good come back by the NZ team.

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^^ Used to have high hope from the Bangladesh but now i don't expect much from them.

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Kiwis are building pressure nicely. Puji and Rahane's bad form continue at home, i think one of em is about to get drop for the next match. Kohli is coming so they need to make a spot for him and dropping Shreyas after century would be tough choice.

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Indian is in deep mess. 4 down and lead is only 100 runs.

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Collapse, Jaddu is gone.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on November 27, 2021, 09:45:20 PM

Bangladesh team has been struggling and when you are playing with a team like Pakistan which has performed exceptionally well in the world cup and is in high morale then you will struggle a lot. Pakistan will not have any problem in winning this match too. Unless someone from the Bangladesh side performs way beyond their existing performance, which I doubt.

Bangladesh has remained where they were two decades ago, when they received the test status. There is absolutely no improvement, despite the massive population and popularity of cricket in the country (Pakistan also have similar population, but they have performed exceptionally in the last few years). One reason is that Bangladesh is overdependent on a few star players. If you take out these players, they will be at the risk of losing to associate nations. All the money being pumped in by the ICC over the years in to Bangladesh cricket has been wasted.

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Quote from: Minor Miner on November 27, 2021, 08:10:01 PM

Pakshithan has scored 145 runs and has not lost any wicket yet. Bangladesh bowlers are very weak bowling. If the bowlers of Bangladesh cannot bring down these two wickets this morning, then surely Bangladesh will lose this Test match and will suffer a miserable defeat. Pakistan needs only 185 runs. Since they have not lost any wickets yet. So collecting 185 runs is not a difficult task for them.

Bangladesh team has been struggling and when you are playing with a team like Pakistan which has performed exceptionally well in the world cup and is in high morale then you will struggle a lot. Pakistan will not have any problem in winning this match too. Unless someone from the Bangladesh side performs way beyond their existing performance, which I doubt.

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Quote from: Minor Miner on November 27, 2021, 08:10:01 PM

Pakshithan has scored 145 runs and has not lost any wicket yet. Bangladesh bowlers are very weak bowling. If the bowlers of Bangladesh cannot bring down these two wickets this morning, then surely Bangladesh will lose this Test match and will suffer a miserable defeat. Pakistan needs only 185 runs. Since they have not lost any wickets yet. So collecting 185 runs is not a difficult task for them.

Bangladesh is without experienced bowlers like Taskin Ahmed, Shakib al Hasan and Mustafizur and their younger players have failed to perform. On top of that, the Pakistan players are in excellent form. Apart from the century by Liton Das, Bangladesh so far doesn't have much to take away from this match. And remember that this is a home series for them, and the match is being played at Chattogram. If things go on like this, Bangladesh will remain as one of the lowest ranking test teams similar to Zimbabwe.

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Pakshithan has scored 145 runs and has not lost any wicket yet. Bangladesh bowlers are very weak bowling. If the bowlers of Bangladesh cannot bring down these two wickets this morning, then surely Bangladesh will lose this Test match and will suffer a miserable defeat. Pakistan needs only 185 runs. Since they have not lost any wickets yet. So collecting 185 runs is not a difficult task for them.

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New Zealand messed up big-time after that huge first innings partnership. The Indian spinners dismantled them and India is already leading by 63 runs though they lost Gill early which is a setback for them.
Jamieson and Southee are the key bowlers to watch out for. If India manage a lead of 200+ runs, this game will either end as a draw or India winning. Let's see if NZ can turn this one around.

The spinners were able to dominate the third day and if India scores above 200 runs then there is no way New Zealand will be able to face Ravichandran Ashwin, Ravindra Jadeja and Axar Patel in the final two days. Prepared spin wickets resting all the main players and it looks like a good plan as they already wanted to give rest to their main players and still win the match Cheesy

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India has already lost one wicket and if they want to win this match they need a solid partnership. In my opinion a score of 250 and above by the Indian team will surely win this match. A lot of cricket still left to play but absolutely stunning balling by Axar Patel once again

India should be more focused on their batting without worrying about winning. It would be almost impossible for them to win the match if they could not survive at the crease in today's first session. They need a solid partnership, and they need to collect 250 runs in the second innings. Only then will they be able to provide a good target to win.

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Quote from: ene1980 on November 27, 2021, 04:54:38 PM

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New Zealand messed up big-time after that huge first innings partnership. The Indian spinners dismantled them and India is already leading by 63 runs though they lost Gill early which is a setback for them.

Jamieson and Southee are the key bowlers to watch out for. If India manage a lead of 200+ runs, this game will either end as a draw or India winning. Let's see if NZ can turn this one around.

The spinners were able to dominate the third day and if India scores above 200 runs then there is no way New Zealand will be able to face Ravichandran Ashwin, Ravindra Jadeja and Axar Patel in the final two days. Prepared spin wickets resting all the main players and it looks like a good plan as they already wanted to give rest to their main players and still win the match Cheesy

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India has already lost one wicket and if they want to win this match they need a solid partnership. In my opinion a score of 250 and above by the Indian team will surely win this match. A lot of cricket still left to play but absolutely stunning balling by Axar Patel once again

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Quote from: Haunebu on November 27, 2021, 04:09:39 PM

New Zealand messed up big-time after that huge first innings partnership. The Indian spinners dismantled them and India is already leading by 63 runs though they lost Gill early which is a setback for them.

Jamieson and Southee are the key bowlers to watch out for. If India manage a lead of 200+ runs, this game will either end as a draw or India winning. Let's see if NZ can turn this one around.

The spinners were able to dominate the third day and if India scores above 200 runs then there is no way New Zealand will be able to face Ravichandran Ashwin, Ravindra Jadeja and Axar Patel in the final two days. Prepared spin wickets resting all the main players and it looks like a good plan as they already wanted to give rest to their main players and still win the match Cheesy

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New Zealand messed up big-time after that huge first innings partnership. The Indian spinners dismantled them and India is already leading by 63 runs though they lost Gill early which is a setback for them.

Jamieson and Southee are the key bowlers to watch out for. If India manage a lead of 200+ runs, this game will either end as a draw or India winning. Let's see if NZ can turn this one around.

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That's what we call a true champion bowler. What an outstanding performance from Axar Patel. What a superb effort for his fourth test. Axar Patel's performance surprised me and I had no idea India would come back this way. In the end, India's bowlers did a great job as they limited New Zealand under 300, now India in the driving seat.

Axar Patel only played 3 Test matches before this and he performed exceptionally well in those opportunities picking up 27 wickets at an average of 10.59 and in this match he picked up another 5 wickets in the first innings and expect him to pick wickets in the second innings as well as the pitch will help the spinners more.

With the opening partnership New Zealand had i thought they would reach a good total, but now the game has skipped them as it will be difficult for them to bat in the last innings with three spinners India is having.

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Great comeback from Indian bowlers. I thought New Zealand will be able to take a big lead in the first innings, but all of their batsman failed to make a good runs except the two openers. Now the match is again in the control of India. Although they lost an early wicket in the second innings, but they have the ability to set a good target. Everything will depend on the Indian bowlers in the second innings. Tomorrow is the fourth day of this test, and this game may end with the drama of final day.

I expected New Zealand to score big and possibly get a first innings lead, but the spinners halted the momentum and they were able to restrict New Zealand by picking up wickets at constant intervals and now it is the turn for New Zealand to bowl well and restrict India as anything more than 250 runs will be difficult to chase for New Zealand with the spinners they have.

New Zealand was good, but this collapse was expected because India playing with 3 spinners at home mean something going to happen against opponent there was some resistance but as Axer and Ashwin started they give no chance to anyone for having some stay at crease now last day is New Zealand again on this pitch mean they have to be in serious trouble tomorrow first session is very important if India able to have some good runs without losing quick wickets then it's all end for visitors 270 to 300 is surely going to be winning target for them on this pitch with one day is enough for spinners to clean up them.

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