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Quote from: Haunebu on September 10, 2021, 09:02:34 AM

2-2? Lol. ECB got lucky with the World Cup final and are now trying to save their faces through India forfeiting making it 2-2 which is absolute crap. Final result is 2-1 in my opinion. Honestly, 3-1 seems more likely when compared to 2-2.

Also, I do agree with the decision to call off the test since lack of physios dealt a big blow to the Indian team which could have seriously screwed them if they decided to go ahead with the final test.

So what's the final result, is it 2-2 or 3-1 ? It's quite confusing till now as no one knows about it exactly. Even when i check cricinfo commentary on this match, they are not sure even.

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The initial wording of the statement from the ECB, as per their website, stated that India would be "forfeiting" the match, meaning the series would finish 2-2. That word is missing now, so we await clarification of what this means for the series.

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2-2? Lol. ECB got lucky with the World Cup final and are now trying to save their faces through India forfeiting making it 2-2 which is absolute crap. Final result is 2-1 in my opinion. Honestly, 3-1 seems more likely when compared to 2-2.

Also, I do agree with the decision to call off the test since lack of physios dealt a big blow to the Indian team which could have seriously screwed them if they decided to go ahead with the final test.

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I wanted to see the match, one of the best Test series i have seen in a long time as all the matches were competitive and it is unfortunate that the players and the staff members are getting positive left and right. Not sure how they are getting when they are living in a bubble or are they breaching the bubble to get infected ?.

The official statement was, India could not field a team for the final Test. They have a long list of players and yesterday the news was everyone tested negative and now what happened.

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India have forfeited the final Test due to covid!!

2-2 series draw %uccckkkkk

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Not forfeited, guess there is some confusion because ECB published some wrong statement.

Match Cancelled so result should be 2-1 to India

https://twitter.com/cricbuzz/status/1436239124831244294

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The fifth Test between England and India, scheduled to begin on Friday (September 10), has been cancelled.

"Due to fears of a further increase in the number of COVID cases inside the camp, India are unable to field a team," said an amended statement from ECB. A previous version of the statement had indicated that India would 'forfeit the match' which has since been removed.

Cricbuzz understands that the Indian players wrote a letter to the Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) expressing apprehension over playing the Test at Old Trafford.

https://www.ecb.co.uk/news/2247831

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Quote from: Minor Miner on September 10, 2021, 01:58:47 AM

I would like to say that this series is completely controlled by the Indian bowlers. It was expected of them that they would bowl well. But the fact that they batted brilliantly, and assisted the team by collecting runs at the required time, was basically the turning point of the match. England did not expect the Indian bowlers are can batted so well.

If players like Bumrah and Shami are able to build 100 run partnership, then it shows the England bowlers in poor light. If I am not wrong, JSRAW already made a post on what happened back then. England bowlers wanted revenge for the barrage of bouncers Bumrah delivered on Anderson, and they were not trying to take his wicket. And when they realized their mistake, it was too late. Just shows what went wrong for England - tactics, captaincy, temperament, discipline.etc. Even if Archer was available, I think he would have made zero impact.

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The final and most interesting test match will between England and India will start in a few hours from now. Man, i am excited about it.

Could India win this series 3-1 or England should be able to draw it 1-1. I think it will be more justifiable based upon the both team performances, that the series is drawn.

You mean England drawing by 2-2? England would have won the matches, but they lost their composure in between. They got excellent starts in all of the matches so far, but at crucial stages they floundered and gave away that advantage. Giving away 100 run partnership for 9th wicket happens once in a while to all the teams. But for England it happened multiple times so far in this series. That shows a lack of planning and poor captaincy. Kohli was under fire before this series. But he has made a strong comeback (I am talking about captaincy, and not about batting).

I would like to say that this series is completely controlled by the Indian bowlers. It was expected of them that they would bowl well. But the fact that they batted brilliantly, and assisted the team by collecting runs at the required time, was basically the turning point of the match. England did not expect the Indian bowlers are can batted so well.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on September 10, 2021, 01:29:29 AM

The final and most interesting test match will between England and India will start in a few hours from now. Man, i am excited about it.

Could India win this series 3-1 or England should be able to draw it 1-1. I think it will be more justifiable based upon the both team performances, that the series is drawn.

You mean England drawing by 2-2? England would have won the matches, but they lost their composure in between. They got excellent starts in all of the matches so far, but at crucial stages they floundered and gave away that advantage. Giving away 100 run partnership for 9th wicket happens once in a while to all the teams. But for England it happened multiple times so far in this series. That shows a lack of planning and poor captaincy. Kohli was under fire before this series. But he has made a strong comeback (I am talking about captaincy, and not about batting).

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The final and most interesting test match will between England and India will start in a few hours from now. Man, i am excited about it.

Could India win this series 3-1 or England should be able to draw it 1-1. I think it will be more justifiable based upon the both team performances, that the series is drawn.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on September 09, 2021, 08:00:45 PM

If the Indian team would have accepted the ECB offer then India would have won the series comfortably. Virat took the right decision to continue with the final match as players have not tested positive. The final match would be more interesting as England has the chance to draw this tournament if they win the match.

I don't get it. How India is going to win the series, if they forfeit the final match? That will make it 2-2 from the current position of 2-1. And the suggestion from the ECB was ridiculous. How low can they stoop in order to save a series? If a match is called off, then it should be considered as a draw. The series should still be 2-1. They have lost to the visitors at home, and for me it looks as if they are not in a position to accept this reality. What is the honor in saving the series through these below the belt tactics?

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Quote from: Haunebu on September 09, 2021, 05:08:37 PM

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What i heard from the news is that there is a covid scare in the Indian camp and will see how things will pan up as some of the coaching staff is infected and we should wait till the test results to come out to know whether everyone is fit to play the match.

https://sports.ndtv.com/england-vs-india-2021/england-board-wants-india-to-forfeit-5th-test-bcci-says-will-play-if-players-test-negative-sources-2535648

The final test will go ahead as planned since some coaches and a staff member tested positive, but the all players tested negative which is great news.

Also, the ECB actually wanted India to forfeit the final match which key Indian players(Virat and Rohit) absolutely refused and I completely agree with them. Forfeiting the final test would ruin this amazing series between India and England.

If the Indian team would have accepted the ECB offer then India would have won the series comfortably. Virat took the right decision to continue with the final match as players have not tested positive. The final match would be more interesting as England has the chance to draw this tournament if they win the match.

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Quote from: 7788bitcoin on September 09, 2021, 02:51:01 PM

What i heard from the news is that there is a covid scare in the Indian camp and will see how things will pan up as some of the coaching staff is infected and we should wait till the test results to come out to know whether everyone is fit to play the match.

https://sports.ndtv.com/england-vs-india-2021/england-board-wants-india-to-forfeit-5th-test-bcci-says-will-play-if-players-test-negative-sources-2535648

The final test will go ahead as planned since some coaches and a staff member tested positive, but the all players tested negative which is great news.

Also, the ECB actually wanted India to forfeit the final match which key Indian players(Virat and Rohit) absolutely refused and I completely agree with them. Forfeiting the final test would ruin this amazing series between India and England.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on September 09, 2021, 04:28:46 AM

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however England have a major decision to make, and that is whether to play Anderson or rest him due to his heavy workload in this series. Furthermore India has no such worries hence that gives team India a slight edge over England, because they know their playing 11 is set and that’s why they’re my favourites to win this last match.

England needs to Anderson to play the final test because they will be looking to win the game and not let India get away with the series victory and since Stuart Broad is injured Anderson should be playing the final Test and the rest of the bowlers will follow him.

What i heard from the news is that there is a covid scare in the Indian camp and will see how things will pan up as some of the coaching staff is infected and we should wait till the test results to come out to know whether everyone is fit to play the match.

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Quote from: virasog on September 09, 2021, 02:57:49 AM

Seeing the previous results in the current test series between England and India, it is hard to predict who will play well in the last test match and win. No one seems to be a clear winner. Huh

I would like expert opinion from you guys so i can make the best bet on his test match.

For such types of matches, where you are too much confused, its better to avoid betting on them. You do not have to bet on every match. Sometimes no betting saves you a lot of money. Both the teams are 50/50 at the moment and also the odds should be similar for both teams. There is no favorite in this match.

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Quote from: JSRAW on September 09, 2021, 03:47:39 AM

Both teams have vulnerabilities and capable of making comeback so its hard to predict.

England batting line up is dependent on Root, Indians doing good so far despite their out of form middle order but we have seen fair amount of batting collapse in this series so both teams are equally shit against each others lethal bowling lineup. England and India are competitive when bowl start to move but when sun comes up or pitch becomes flat Indian bowlers and batters are dominating as we have witnessed in the last game.

A lot of questions have been raised about England's batting and their overdependence on Joe Root. But at the same time, their bowling has mostly escaped scrutiny. England bowlers were good in patches, but failed completely at crucial stages of the match. On multiple occasions, they allowed the Indian lower order batsmen to make 80-90 run stands. They lack a bowler who can finis the tail quickly. I guess the absence of Archer and Stokes is the reason. But the current bunch of bowlers are completely ineffective against the Indian lower order batsmen.

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Quote from: JSRAW on September 09, 2021, 03:47:39 AM

Both teams have vulnerabilities and capable of making comeback so its hard to predict.

England batting line up is dependent on Root, Indians doing good so far despite their out of form middle order but we have seen fair amount of batting collapse in this series so both teams are equally shit against each others lethal bowling lineup. England and India are competitive when bowl start to move but when sun comes up or pitch becomes flat Indian bowlers and batters are dominating as we have witnessed in the last game.

@JSRAW you’re absolutely correct however England have a major decision to make, and that is whether to play Anderson or rest him due to his heavy workload in this series. Furthermore India has no such worries hence that gives team India a slight edge over England, because they know their playing 11 is set and that’s why they’re my favourites to win this last match.

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https://www.skysports.com/cricket/news/12173/12401326/james-anderson-should-england-rest-bowler-for-fifth-test-against-india

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Quote from: Sithara007 on September 08, 2021, 09:14:16 PM

BTW, what about Cheteshwar Pujara? Although he has made some runs in the last two matches, he's not in great form either.

He almost scored a century and a half-century recently which is why replacing him when he recovered his form is completely dumb. His text experience shouldn't be under-estimated in my opinion.

Quote from: virasog on September 09, 2021, 02:57:49 AM

No one seems to be a clear winner. Huh

I would like expert opinion from you guys so i can make the best bet on his test match.

Tough to tell. I am randomly predicting a draw due to rain interference. One team is aiming to script history while another team is desperate for a draw.

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Both teams have vulnerabilities and capable of making comeback so its hard to predict.

England batting line up is dependent on Root, Indians doing good so far despite their out of form middle order but we have seen fair amount of batting collapse in this series so both teams are equally shit against each others lethal bowling lineup. England and India are competitive when bowl start to move but when sun comes up or pitch becomes flat Indian bowlers and batters are dominating as we have witnessed in the last game.

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Seeing the previous results in the current test series between England and India, it is hard to predict who will play well in the last test match and win. No one seems to be a clear winner. Huh

I would like expert opinion from you guys so i can make the best bet on his test match.

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Quote from: Haunebu on September 08, 2021, 02:00:32 PM

India have a great chance at creating records if they somehow manage to win the final test. Bumrah will be rested and Rahane might be replaced by Vihari or Yadav(I would choose Vihari personally).

I guess the next big tournament after this test series ends between India and England is the 2nd half of IPL 2021. Excited for the upcoming events.

I would prefer Suryakumar Yadav, because Hanuma Vihari has been given enough chances and still averages just 32 with the bat in test cricket. He has played in 12 matches so far, and time has come to provide some opportunities for the other youngsters such as Suryakumar Yadav, Devdutt Padickal, Shreyas Iyer and Ishan Kishan. That said, I personally feel that Rahane may be given one last opportunity to redeem himself in the 5th test. BTW, what about Cheteshwar Pujara? Although he has made some runs in the last two matches, he's not in great form either.

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Quote from: eaLiTy on September 08, 2021, 04:11:52 PM

Quote from: Haunebu on September 08, 2021, 02:00:32 PM

India have a great chance at creating records if they somehow manage to win the final test. Bumrah will be rested and Rahane might be replaced by Vihari or Yadav(I would choose Vihari personally).

India already created history in this series by winning in Lord's and The Oval and if there was no rain interruption in the first Test match i am certain that India would have won that match as well. Ajinkya Rahane should be rested as he is low in confidence and not scoring runs and i would like to see Suryakumar Yadav making his debut. Jasprit Bumrah is the main bowler and i do not think he will be rested unless he is injured.

Rahane is not in form at the moment but still, he has the ability to drag the batting till the end of the session. India is already leading the series and this is not the time to change the team as the next match will be the last one. I think they should continue will the current team if they want to win this series.

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