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Quote from: Sithara007 on March 04, 2021, 12:17:13 AM

Quote from: pakhitheboss on March 04, 2021, 12:14:39 AM

Root also out.
The way this match is progressing I think this match will also end in just two days. This is going to be a completely one sided match and especially a boring one. England batting has gone from good to bad and now worst.

England seems to be in a hurry to reach home (well.. the T20I and ODI series remain in this tour). For a change, one of the pacers got the wicket now. None of the England batsmen are showing any signs of confidence. Their body language suggests that they have lost the match in the first session of the first day itself. It seems to be a formality now and the only suspense is regarding the margin of victory for India.

No need to make that kind of conclusion just after the first session of the first day in this match, after the 3 wickets Bairstow and Stokes is making good partnership and it is nearing 45 at very good run rate which is a good fight back after the two early wickets. Hope this may give them the lost confidence and they also have deep batting order so if one or two partnership from now on will give good fighting total for them and don't forget the pitch is going to be more worse when the match progress.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on March 04, 2021, 12:14:39 AM

Root also out.
The way this match is progressing I think this match will also end in just two days. This is going to be a completely one sided match and especially a boring one. England batting has gone from good to bad and now worst.

England seems to be in a hurry to reach home (well.. the T20I and ODI series remain in this tour). For a change, one of the pacers got the wicket now. None of the England batsmen are showing any signs of confidence. Their body language suggests that they have lost the match in the first session of the first day itself. It seems to be a formality now and the only suspense is regarding the margin of victory for India.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on March 04, 2021, 12:03:21 AM

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England has already lost two wickets for just 19 runs. Axar patel back in action infront of the home ground. Root is on the pitch let's see how he performs in this match. Another wicket and I assume England will be struggling to reach 100 this time.

It is getting boring. I never watch one sided test matches and therefore stopped watching it when the second wicket fall. I see no improvement in the England batting. And it would be a surprise if they manage to cross a total of 150. I just hope that this time the match doesn't end in two days, as happened with the third test match. As long as Joe Root is there, some hope exists for England. Let's see how it goes for them.

Root also out.
The way this match is progressing I think this match will also end in just two days. This is going to be a completely one sided match and especially a boring one. England batting has gone from good to bad and now worst.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on March 03, 2021, 11:50:22 PM

England has already lost two wickets for just 19 runs. Axar patel back in action infront of the home ground. Root is on the pitch let's see how he performs in this match. Another wicket and I assume England will be struggling to reach 100 this time.

It is getting boring. I never watch one sided test matches and therefore stopped watching it when the second wicket fall. I see no improvement in the England batting. And it would be a surprise if they manage to cross a total of 150. I just hope that this time the match doesn't end in two days, as happened with the third test match. As long as Joe Root is there, some hope exists for England. Let's see how it goes for them.

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England has already lost two wickets for just 19 runs. Axar patel back in action infront of the home ground. Root is on the pitch let's see how he performs in this match. Another wicket and I assume England will be struggling to reach 100 this time.

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Quote from: JSRAW on March 03, 2021, 10:50:52 PM

Kohli lost the toss again!!! Dude need more practice with the toss. England is batting first one more time, good chance for them to comeback in this game. England would be very happy side if they able to draw the series. Australian fans are also cheering for them.

-Bumrah is getting married so he's out and Siraj comes in his place.
-No Broad-Jofra this time, Dominic Bess(Spin) and Daniel Lawrence (Batsman) are in. England got only 3 regular bowlers and 2 part timer Joe Root and Stokes(he's not bowling much due to workload etc).

It is really surprising that England went for just 3 full-time bowlers. I understand that Dom Bess and Jack Leach will be taking most of the work load, but they could have included at least Broad. He has got more than 500 test wickets to his name and is useful with the bat as well. If the pitch turns out to be flat, then England could be in big trouble with less number of bowling options.

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Kohli lost the toss again!!! Dude need more practice with the toss. England is batting first one more time, good chance for them to comeback in this game. England would be very happy side if they able to draw the series. Australian fans are also cheering for them.

-Bumrah is getting married so he's out and Siraj comes in his place.
-No Broad-Jofra this time, Dominic Bess(Spin) and Daniel Lawrence (Batsman) are in. England got only 3 regular bowlers and 2 part timer Joe Root and Stokes(he's not bowling much due to workload etc).

https://twitter.com/BCCI/status/1367319040612470789

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on March 03, 2021, 12:00:21 PM

Quote from: bryant.coleman on March 03, 2021, 11:23:18 AM

Very poor performance from the part of Afghanistan. I don't know what happened to them, but 2-3 years ago they were giving stiff competition even to the big 3 sides. I understand that the absence of Rashid Khan (due to injury) impacted them negatively. But there is no excuse for the failure from the part of their batsmen. After all these years, Afghanistan still doesn't have a stable top order. They are experimenting with new players every now and then.

Afghanistan is not a good team. They play well occasionally. But I didn’t think they would play so badly against a small team like Zimbabwe. Afghanistan has many talented players. Yet their batting has been a disaster. The Afghanistan team is well aware of Rashid Khan's absence. Afghanistan would have played better if he had.

I don't think that they are not a good team. Previously against some of the stronger teams they had played well. Don't know what happened this time, but I suspect that going for too many players and lack of exposure to the longer format of the game proved to be their undoing. They need to play more test matches, so that they will get enough experience in this format. There are a lot of T20 specialists in the Afghanistan team. But they don't have any test specialists.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on March 03, 2021, 11:23:18 AM

Very poor performance from the part of Afghanistan. I don't know what happened to them, but 2-3 years ago they were giving stiff competition even to the big 3 sides. I understand that the absence of Rashid Khan (due to injury) impacted them negatively. But there is no excuse for the failure from the part of their batsmen. After all these years, Afghanistan still doesn't have a stable top order. They are experimenting with new players every now and then.

This was really sad to see that there was no one ready to stay on the pitch and they in both innings they were out in 130's in test match which is like certainly not up the mark. Also, they are playing against Zimbabwe so considering that was expecting some better performance from them because they have potential and showed that over some time.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on March 03, 2021, 11:23:18 AM

Very poor performance from the part of Afghanistan. I don't know what happened to them, but 2-3 years ago they were giving stiff competition even to the big 3 sides. I understand that the absence of Rashid Khan (due to injury) impacted them negatively. But there is no excuse for the failure from the part of their batsmen. After all these years, Afghanistan still doesn't have a stable top order. They are experimenting with new players every now and then.

Afghanistan is not a good team. They play well occasionally. But I didn’t think they would play so badly against a small team like Zimbabwe. Afghanistan has many talented players. Yet their batting has been a disaster. The Afghanistan team is well aware of Rashid Khan's absence. Afghanistan would have played better if he had.

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Very poor performance from the part of Afghanistan. I don't know what happened to them, but 2-3 years ago they were giving stiff competition even to the big 3 sides. I understand that the absence of Rashid Khan (due to injury) impacted them negatively. But there is no excuse for the failure from the part of their batsmen. After all these years, Afghanistan still doesn't have a stable top order. They are experimenting with new players every now and then.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on March 03, 2021, 04:57:01 AM

Quote from: GbitG on March 03, 2021, 04:40:32 AM

Look like now after India vs England and Afghanistan vs Zimbabwe ICC can reduce five day matches into short format currently just second day of first test match between Afghanistan vs Zimbabwe we are going to have result Afghanistan 131 & 21/5 Zimbabwe 250
Afghanistan need 98 runs to avoid inning defeat and Zimbabwe need only 5 wickets to win first match of this series.

Afghanistan sent an inexperienced side (without Rashid Khan, Mujeebur Rahman.etc), but I wasn't expecting a one sided match such as this one. 41 overs are remaining today and Afghanistan still need another 88 runs to avoid follow on. Looks like we will be having another two-day test match. To make matters worse, this was one of the "home" tests for Afghanistan.

Zimbabwe was also missing some of their key players such as Brendan Taylor and Kyle Jarvis, but they managed to put up a decent show. Again and again, Zimbabwe rises up like a phoenix, when everyone writes them off. Just imagine what they could have achieved, if the players were supported by a competitive cricket board. Unfortunately their board is still corrupt and a large part of the ICC funding is stolen or wasted every year.

@GbitG the shorter format of test matches is a dream that’ll never really materialise, because ICC will not allow it as they’ll lose out on revenues from advertisers as the advertisers pay for 5 days. @Vishnu.Reang I believe that you have highlighted the success of Zimbabwe in the past too, and while I’m not keenly following them but this was indeed a solid performance by the Zimbabwean team.

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Quote from: GbitG on March 03, 2021, 04:40:32 AM

Look like now after India vs England and Afghanistan vs Zimbabwe ICC can reduce five day matches into short format currently just second day of first test match between Afghanistan vs Zimbabwe we are going to have result Afghanistan 131 & 21/5 Zimbabwe 250
Afghanistan need 98 runs to avoid inning defeat and Zimbabwe need only 5 wickets to win first match of this series.

Afghanistan sent an inexperienced side (without Rashid Khan, Mujeebur Rahman.etc), but I wasn't expecting a one sided match such as this one. 41 overs are remaining today and Afghanistan still need another 88 runs to avoid follow on. Looks like we will be having another two-day test match. To make matters worse, this was one of the "home" tests for Afghanistan.

Zimbabwe was also missing some of their key players such as Brendan Taylor and Kyle Jarvis, but they managed to put up a decent show. Again and again, Zimbabwe rises up like a phoenix, when everyone writes them off. Just imagine what they could have achieved, if the players were supported by a competitive cricket board. Unfortunately their board is still corrupt and a large part of the ICC funding is stolen or wasted every year.

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Look like now after India vs England and Afghanistan vs Zimbabwe ICC can reduce five day matches into short format currently just second day of first test match between Afghanistan vs Zimbabwe we are going to have result Afghanistan 131 & 21/5 Zimbabwe 250
Afghanistan need 98 runs to avoid inning defeat and Zimbabwe need only 5 wickets to win first match of this series.

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Quote from: mersal on March 03, 2021, 12:10:45 AM

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Winners of the last match will go directly to the World Test Championship final, so it is extremely important. For Indians, the good work done in the second and third test matches will be undone if they lose the fourth match as a result of their complacency. If England wins the toss and manages to put a total of 300-350, then things will get interesting. Their bowlers did OK so far. The issue was with their batting.

IIRC, if this test series ends in a draw then AUS will qualify for the World Test championship Finale, not the ENG so there is no more chance for ENG but they can destroy the WTC dream of Indians if they can manage to win the match which is going to start from tomorrow. Even a draw will put India in the Final.

Yup.. I was wrong in my post. England is out of the WTC finals after their pathetic performance in the second test. They had to win the series, and now it is not possible. So it is now between Australia and India. The Kiwis are surely going to prefer Australia over India as their opponents. Australia is in pathetic form right now and both their batsmen and the bowlers are not doing well.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on March 02, 2021, 11:37:25 PM

Quote from: JSRAW on March 02, 2021, 11:24:37 PM

Indians are playing mind games with the English batters, every time they are coming out for press conference, they keep reminding everyone that 4th test match pitch is going to be spin friendly similar to 2nd test match. Reminds me of English press conference when India tours to England.

Let's see if this fire back to Indians or not. Would be ironic if England fight back and win the game. Indians did the same in the Lords, if Indians can do it then surely England can also show some tricks. Grin

Winners of the last match will go directly to the World Test Championship final, so it is extremely important. For Indians, the good work done in the second and third test matches will be undone if they lose the fourth match as a result of their complacency. If England wins the toss and manages to put a total of 300-350, then things will get interesting. Their bowlers did OK so far. The issue was with their batting.

IIRC, if this test series ends in a draw then AUS will qualify for the World Test championship Finale, not the ENG so there is no more chance for ENG but they can destroy the WTC dream of Indians if they can manage to win the match which is going to start from tomorrow. Even a draw will put India in the Final.

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Quote from: JSRAW on March 02, 2021, 11:56:42 PM

England lost the toss in 2nd match and lost the game.
England won the toss in 3rd match and lost the game.

So i think we should give some benefit of doubt to toss-factor this time and let's hope that England might show some fight and India not taking things lightly. Aussie would side with the poms for the next game, they need England to win so that they can qualify for the finals. Grin

Third match was D/N and therefore the importance of toss was reduced. But that doesn't take away the fact that England batsmen failed horribly despite batting first. Anyway, the last match start tomorrow and it is going to be crucial for all the three teams (India, Australia and to an extent England). The question is whether the WTC final will be between New Zealand and India, or NZ vs Australia. Both the scenarios look exciting.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on March 02, 2021, 11:37:25 PM

Quote from: JSRAW on March 02, 2021, 11:24:37 PM

Indians are playing mind games with the English batters, every time they are coming out for press conference, they keep reminding everyone that 4th test match pitch is going to be spin friendly similar to 2nd test match. Reminds me of English press conference when India tours to England.

Let's see if this fire back to Indians or not. Would be ironic if England fight back and win the game. Indians did the same in the Lords, if Indians can do it then surely England can also show some tricks. Grin

Winners of the last match will go directly to the World Test Championship final, so it is extremely important. For Indians, the good work done in the second and third test matches will be undone if they lose the fourth match as a result of their complacency. If England wins the toss and manages to put a total of 300-350, then things will get interesting. Their bowlers did OK so far. The issue was with their batting.

England lost the toss in 2nd match and lost the game.
England won the toss in 3rd match and lost the game.

So i think we should give some benefit of doubt to toss-factor this time and let's hope that England might show some fight and India not taking things lightly. Aussie would side with the poms for the next game, they need England to win so that they can qualify for the finals. Grin

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Quote from: JSRAW on March 02, 2021, 11:24:37 PM

Indians are playing mind games with the English batters, every time they are coming out for press conference, they keep reminding everyone that 4th test match pitch is going to be spin friendly similar to 2nd test match. Reminds me of English press conference when India tours to England.

Let's see if this fire back to Indians or not. Would be ironic if England fight back and win the game. Indians did the same in the Lords, if Indians can do it then surely England can also show some tricks. Grin

Winners of the last match will go directly to the World Test Championship final, so it is extremely important. For Indians, the good work done in the second and third test matches will be undone if they lose the fourth match as a result of their complacency. If England wins the toss and manages to put a total of 300-350, then things will get interesting. Their bowlers did OK so far. The issue was with their batting.

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Indians are playing mind games with the English batters, every time they are coming out for press conference, they keep reminding everyone that 4th test match pitch is going to be spin friendly similar to 2nd test match. Reminds me of English press conference when India tours to England.

Let's see if this fire back to Indians or not. Would be ironic if England fight back and win the game. Indians did the same in the Lords, if Indians can do it then surely England can also show some tricks. Grin

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