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The way i see it, world cricket going through some phase of average batting from every single team but not bowling.
If you look at the modern day batsman they are struggling if there is some movement from the pitch and to make Test matches interesting and to avoid draws the pitches are made that offers some assistance to the bowlers as well while the shorter format pitches are flat and so is the reason these batsman are able to make big runs.

I expect New Zealand to take the first innings lead, but there is still no guarantee about it.
New Zealand just trail by 11 runs and they only lost 3 wickets, until and unless Pakistan bowlers produce some magical spells they will take a lead of around 150 to 200 runs.

Williamson and Henry partnership changed the game for NZ else even they were struggling once when they lost 3d wicket at just 71. This partnership if plays the majority of the first session tomorrow then lead could well be above 250+ runs easily for NZ and this would mean that Pakistan chances reduces to win the test or even to draw if they play like first innings.

For Pakistan to be back they will need quick wickets tomorrow and probably try to restrict the lead under 125 runs if possible else will be very difficult for them to save the match.
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The way i see it, world cricket going through some phase of average batting from every single team but not bowling.
If you look at the modern day batsman they are struggling if there is some movement from the pitch and to make Test matches interesting and to avoid draws the pitches are made that offers some assistance to the bowlers as well while the shorter format pitches are flat and so is the reason these batsman are able to make big runs.

I expect New Zealand to take the first innings lead, but there is still no guarantee about it.
New Zealand just trail by 11 runs and they only lost 3 wickets, until and unless Pakistan bowlers produce some magical spells they will take a lead of around 150 to 200 runs.
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Anyone following the second test match between Pakistan and New Zealand? Pakistan managed to take three quick wickets, but Kane Williamson and Henry Nicholls have now stabilized the New Zealand innings. Now they are 149/3, and trail by 148 runs. I expect New Zealand to take the first innings lead, but there is still no guarantee about it.
Now New Zealand is in complete control because at the end of second day they are 286/3 Williamson on 112 and Nicholis is also around 89 so they are going to win this match as well because lead about 100+ is really good for them Pakistani batting is not giving good response and now bowling is also average.
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How the table turns... if you think about it then this whole situation is quite hilarious from both sides.  Grin

Few years back Australian media/ Experts / Almost everyone used to say that Indians are scared to play in the Australia but now every one says that they are scared to play in the certain ground. People forget that they are still playing in Australia's home turf be it Gabba, Adelaide, Melbourne or Sydney.

Australian bowling was never this much weak. There was a time when they had Glenn McGrath, Shane Warne and Brett Lee in the playing XI. Before that they had Merv Hughes and Craig McDermott. Even after the McGrath-Warne era, they had legendary bowlers such as Mitchell Johnson and Shaun Tait. But look at the condition right now. The Indian pace/spin bowling attack is much better than that of the Australians.
I would never say that they are weak bowling side. They are in top 3 in the world cricket and were looking at top form before they lost the 2nd game. And their bowlers didn't perform bad at all, their batting looking vulnerable because Smudge (smith) is not performing.

The way i see it, world cricket going through some phase of average batting from every single team but not bowling.
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Anyone following the second test match between Pakistan and New Zealand? Pakistan managed to take three quick wickets, but Kane Williamson and Henry Nicholls have now stabilized the New Zealand innings. Now they are 149/3, and trail by 148 runs. I expect New Zealand to take the first innings lead, but there is still no guarantee about it.
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Many of the Kolpak cricketers have already received their British passports, and most of the remaining ones have been selected as overseas players by the county sides. Those who are left out are moving to other countries such as New Zealand and the United States. The recently started Minor League Cricket (MLC) has attracted large number of (ex) South African players to the United States.
So Unites States is attracting players, do they get the same payment. I have no idea about the level of cricket in United States and how they can catch up with the rest of the sports in US to attract advertisement.

I was also looking forward to the third test match between India and Australia. The series is now in a 1-1 draw. Both teams will want to win the match in any ways. My bet will be for Australia in the next match. Since they are the host, and they will make the pitch at their convenience. They will get some extra facilities.
The Australian batsman are struggling and hence they need to make a batting flat wicket and if that happens it will help India also, the similarity between the first two matches is that both the teams had talented bowlers and the difference is the batsman making runs and which teams scores the runs will win.
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Even if he changed his batting style from this past still he is not successful with scoring runs which is more important than anything in cricket. There are lot of young talent is waiting for years so giving too much if chances even after back to back losses will create chaos in the dressing room. Hope the deserved one will be given chance.
If that is the case KL Rahul is the only player to get a chance to play in the current squad while the rest of the players got their chances because some of the players are injured and Virat Kohli taking a parental leave. Rohit Sharma flew to Australia to join the squad even though he is returning from injury shows that the BCCI is not having any other young players that could make a debut for India Wink.
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NZ is again on top in the 2nd test at christchurch and it seems they will bowl out pakistan under 300 today. Kyle Jamieson bowled a nice spell and took 5 wickets while  Southee took 2 wickets. NZ can easily white wash the series with 2-0 win.
The whole series was one-sided. So far Pakistan has not won a single match. In the previous Test match, they could not reach 300 runs in any innings. I hope this match they will not be able to make 300 in any innings.
Their first innings is over, and they have lost all their wickets for 297 runs. I hope NZ will win this match easily.

That's why i am not following this series and also not the srilanka/ south africa one (Srilanka are 5 down for only 88 in the 2nd test). The only series which is interesting at the moment is India Australia one and third test will start on Jan 7. However there are some doubts that indian team may refuse to go to Brisbane to play the test.
I was also looking forward to the third test match between India and Australia. The series is now in a 1-1 draw. Both teams will want to win the match in any ways. My bet will be for Australia in the next match. Since they are the host, and they will make the pitch at their convenience. They will get some extra facilities.
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If I remember exactly, European Union and SA government are working on regulation against kolpak deals to prevent draining talents out.

Many of the Kolpak cricketers have already received their British passports, and most of the remaining ones have been selected as overseas players by the county sides. Those who are left out are moving to other countries such as New Zealand and the United States. The recently started Minor League Cricket (MLC) has attracted large number of (ex) South African players to the United States.
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he was an average player but compared to the young openers who failed miserably then he is the only choice for replacement now.
I would like to see them give more opportunities to Mayank Agarwal and what i spotted is his changed batting stance from his last tour and i noticed this because i was watching some videos in social media and i was able to see someone making a comparison of his different batting stance.
Even if he changed his batting style from this past still he is not successful with scoring runs which is more important than anything in cricket. There are lot of young talent is waiting for years so giving too much if chances even after back to back losses will create chaos in the dressing room. Hope the deserved one will be given chance.
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Rohit Sharma is 33 years old, and till now he has played only 32 test matches (now compare this to 87 matches for Virat Kohli, 79 for Cheteshwar Pujara, and 67 for Ajinkya Rahane). So obviously he is not that experienced in the longer format. But his test record is not that bad. He averages 46.54 with the bat, which is comparable to Pujara/Rahane. 
It is true that he averages 46.54 in Test matches but if you break down his performance and look at his average outside India it is a mere 26.32 with a highest score of 79 runs which includes 3 ducks.

His outstanding performance came when South Africa toured India in 2019 where he score 3 centuries and one was a double century and in his last series against Bangladesh he failed miserably and his average in Australia Rohit Sharma played 10 innings and he was able to cross half century only twice and his average is 31. These are the stats and what difference can he make depends upon how he is able to rebound from injury and rewrite the history books and his below average stats in Test.

he was an average player but compared to the young openers who failed miserably then he is the only choice for replacement now.
I would like to see them give more opportunities to Mayank Agarwal and what i spotted is his changed batting stance from his last tour and i noticed this because i was watching some videos in social media and i was able to see someone making a comparison of his different batting stance.
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Sri Lanka in a lot of trouble against South Africa. They are at 98/6, with Wiaan Mulder and Anrich Nortje having picked up three wickets each.
Sri Lanka got all out for 157 from 93 for 6, thanks to short cameo by P de Silva. I was planning to bet on this match but luckily my sportsbook is not covering this series. I was expecting Sri Lanka to surprise South Africa like how they did on their last tour. But this time it seems South Africa got new talents to face any unexpected challenges.

Mulder is just 22 years old and if New Zealand or England can convince him to get a passport with them, then he is going to be such a good asset for them.
If I remember exactly, European Union and SA government are working on regulation against kolpak deals to prevent draining talents out.

BTW, is anyone going to argue, if I claim that New Zealand is having the best pace bowling lineup right now?
How about India? If Natarajan finds his form in tests as well then India may have their best ever pace attack in their history by having options like Bhuvanesh Kumar/Shami/Ishant Sharma/Jasprit Bumrah and Mohammed Siraj (M Siraj got the 2nd best visiting debut after Mallinga).
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Sri Lanka in a lot of trouble against South Africa. They are at 98/6, with Wiaan Mulder and Anrich Nortje having picked up three wickets each. Mulder is just 22 years old and if New Zealand or England can convince him to get a passport with them, then he is going to be such a good asset for them. I wasn't expecting much from Sri Lanka anyway.. so not much surprised.

BTW, is anyone going to argue, if I claim that New Zealand is having the best pace bowling lineup right now? Kyle Jamieson is playing his 6th test match, and so far he has picked up 30 wickets at an average of 14.33. And they have enough depth in their squad, with bowlers such as Neil Wagner, Tim Southee, Trent Boult, Lockie Ferguson and Matt Henry.

Poor form continues for SL, as in last test match as well they lost badly and the start itself of this test being not great for SL with getting all out in just 157. SA now only trail with just 79 runs and 9 wickets still in hand. So again, chances increases that if they can take lead of 250 as well then SA can win the test match with innings and some runs in this test match too.
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Isn't it a childish approach by the Indians to avoid the defeat because of the bad record history in Brisbane. Even if you have zero winning record in a certain ground, you can still win the match because every day is a new day. Look like its a superstition approach by the Indian team.
I don't think Indians are not going to oppose anything which will be decided by the Australian Cricket Board because team India was prepared for this when they entered into Australia so they won't be using the current pandemic as an excuse to avoid playing there but what will happen if the Indian players were denied to enter in that state?
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How the table turns... if you think about it then this whole situation is quite hilarious from both sides.  Grin

Few years back Australian media/ Experts / Almost everyone used to say that Indians are scared to play in the Australia but now every one says that they are scared to play in the certain ground. People forget that they are still playing in Australia's home turf be it Gabba, Adelaide, Melbourne or Sydney.

Australian bowling was never this much weak. There was a time when they had Glenn McGrath, Shane Warne and Brett Lee in the playing XI. Before that they had Merv Hughes and Craig McDermott. Even after the McGrath-Warne era, they had legendary bowlers such as Mitchell Johnson and Shaun Tait. But look at the condition right now. The Indian pace/spin bowling attack is much better than that of the Australians.
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How the table turns... if you think about it then this whole situation is quite hilarious from both sides.  Grin

Few years back Australian media/ Experts / Almost everyone used to say that Indians are scared to play in the Australia but now every one says that they are scared to play in the certain ground. People forget that they are still playing in Australia's home turf be it Gabba, Adelaide, Melbourne or Sydney.

BTW, is anyone going to argue, if I claim that New Zealand is having the best pace bowling lineup right now?
No argument when i look at Boult, Southee, Wagner stats
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Sri Lanka in a lot of trouble against South Africa. They are at 98/6, with Wiaan Mulder and Anrich Nortje having picked up three wickets each. Mulder is just 22 years old and if New Zealand or England can convince him to get a passport with them, then he is going to be such a good asset for them. I wasn't expecting much from Sri Lanka anyway.. so not much surprised.

BTW, is anyone going to argue, if I claim that New Zealand is having the best pace bowling lineup right now? Kyle Jamieson is playing his 6th test match, and so far he has picked up 30 wickets at an average of 14.33. And they have enough depth in their squad, with bowlers such as Neil Wagner, Tim Southee, Trent Boult, Lockie Ferguson and Matt Henry.
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That's why i am not following this series and also not the srilanka/ south africa one (Srilanka are 5 down for only 88 in the 2nd test). The only series which is interesting at the moment is India Australia one and third test will start on Jan 7. However there are some doubts that indian team may refuse to go to Brisbane to play the test.
The doubt is regarding the 4th Test and it is highly unlikely India will be travelling to Brisbane as they do not want to undergo hard quarantine once again and CA have to find a solution for that but it will not help Australia as their players want the final Test to be in Brisbane as it is their favorite hunting ground while i am sure the Indian team will avoid going as they have a poor record if i remember correctly and they will use the quarantine as an excuse Cheesy.



Isn't it a childish approach by the Indians to avoid the defeat because of the bad record history in Brisbane. Even if you have zero winning record in a certain ground, you can still win the match because every day is a new day. Look like its a superstition approach by the Indian team.
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That's why i am not following this series and also not the srilanka/ south africa one (Srilanka are 5 down for only 88 in the 2nd test). The only series which is interesting at the moment is India Australia one and third test will start on Jan 7. However there are some doubts that indian team may refuse to go to Brisbane to play the test.
The doubt is regarding the 4th Test and it is highly unlikely India will be travelling to Brisbane as they do not want to undergo hard quarantine once again and CA have to find a solution for that but it will not help Australia as their players want the final Test to be in Brisbane as it is their favorite hunting ground while i am sure the Indian team will avoid going as they have a poor record if i remember correctly and they will use the quarantine as an excuse Cheesy.
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However there are some doubts that indian team may refuse to go to Brisbane to play the test.

This is more sort of a drama by the Indian team. If you look at the history, the indian team has never won a test at the Gabba so its obvious they don't want to go there and lose the test match. I don't think this has anything to do with strict lockdown.
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