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Babar Azam ruled out due to thumb injury.

He got a fracture in his right thumb while having a practice session on sunday. What sort of practice it is which make you unfit rather than making you fit for the match Huh

First covid-19 rumors and now Babar, Imam, Shadab injuries worries Pakistan ahead of NZ series will further dent the team performance. Angry

May be he got knocked out in thumb war. Grin

Anyway its not like he's ruled out from the tour, its just T-20 series and i am sure he would recover and come back for Tests, which is more important.

The problem is as he is the only player we are looking to perform against NZ and if he is not playing, then its better we don't play at all. No other batsman look to be replacing him as of now. Everyone is thinking now that What will Pakistan do without Babar Azam?

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Quote from: Sithara007 on December 16, 2020, 06:06:52 AM

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The injury Cameron Green sustained was scary on the spot and hopefully he will pass the concussion test and make his debut as he is a promising allrounder for Australia.

Today there was confirmation from Tim Paine regarding Cameron Green. He said that Green has passed his fitness test and will be included in the playing XI against India for the pink ball test. He is just 21 years old, and I have a feeling that he has the capability to become a regular in the national squad. Also, the latest from the Indian camp is that Shaw, Saha, Umesh and Ashwin may be included in the playing XI.

I think Cameron Green will solidify his place in the Australian national team with the series against India. He is very talented. And able to help the team in need. I hope he will be able to support the team well in the next Test match. I think WIll Pucovski will be given a chance in the series against India. But he did not get a place in the squad.

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Quote from: ene1980 on December 15, 2020, 12:18:42 PM

The injury Cameron Green sustained was scary on the spot and hopefully he will pass the concussion test and make his debut as he is a promising allrounder for Australia.

Today there was confirmation from Tim Paine regarding Cameron Green. He said that Green has passed his fitness test and will be included in the playing XI against India for the pink ball test. He is just 21 years old, and I have a feeling that he has the capability to become a regular in the national squad. Also, the latest from the Indian camp is that Shaw, Saha, Umesh and Ashwin may be included in the playing XI.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on December 15, 2020, 11:59:51 AM

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I don't know whether Vihari can bowl as much as all-rounders such as Jadeja, but after reading your post now it sounds to me that including Ashwin may not be a bad idea. After all, Australians do have vulnerabilities against spin bowlers.

If Vihari can manage 8-10 overs a day then its job well done and i think he can, after all part timer main job is to give main bowlers some sort of rest during rotation. Interestingly one news coming out that team management encouraging younger batsmen to bowl in the nets. Vihari, Shaw and Mayank Aggarwal started bowling in the nets.

Another news is Saha could play in the first match.

https://twitter.com/beastieboy07/status/1339046064909819905

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UPDATE: Here’s #TeamIndia’s playing XI for the first Border-Gavaskar Test against Australia starting tomorrow in Adelaide. #AUSvIND

https://twitter.com/BCCI/status/1339115913061179395

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Quote from: JSRAW on December 15, 2020, 02:46:19 AM

Earlier i had doubt over Cameron Green but after Will Pucovski concussion Green do have solid claim in the Playing XI, hopefully he clears the concussion test and earn his Test cap, he deserve it. I am fan of both Shaw and Gill but as of now Shaw seems to be in pretty bad phase, his shot selection is not looking great atm, on the other hand Gill looking good so would prefer Gill over Shaw.

The warn up matches were not that great for Australia as they lost Will Pucovski due to concussion and after that Cameron Green and he will be in the team if he is able to pass the concussion test and he is a promising player for Australia as he batted really well and a good fast bowler as well.

I am not sure about the Indian team line up but i am expecting Bumrah and Shami along with Umesh and Ashwin the lone spinner according to the pitch condition.

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Labuschagne is a good player, but I don't think that he will be the suitable person to open batting for Australia. From what I have seen, he's more comfortable at no.3 or no.4 positions, or even further down the order. During the Sheffield Shield competition also he was batting at no.3 for his domestic side (Queensland Bulls). Why can't Marcus Harris or Tim Paine open the batting?

Marcus Harris could be a contender for opening slot but not Tim Paine as he never opened the inning, he's more of middle-lower middle batsman. Both teams are having tough time on selection.

For Australia Top order and Cameron Green's concussion seems serious drama and India is also confused over Shaw vs Gill / Pant vs Saha and 4 seam bowler attack vs 3 seam + 1 spinner.

I agree that Marcus Harris could be the best option right now for Australia as I also don't think that Labuschagne isn't an opening batsman and it could actually do more harm then good if they select him to open the batting. Its best that he stays at number 3 or 4 and have Harris open. I also wouldn't be rushing Green into the team if he is still getting over his concussion from the tour match.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on December 15, 2020, 12:44:07 AM

The latest news is that Cameron Green will make his test debut if he passes the fitness test. Regarding Shaw vs Gill, I don't have a preference. I am not impressed by both the players so far in this tour.

The injury Cameron Green sustained was scary on the spot and hopefully he will pass the concussion test and make his debut as he is a promising allrounder for Australia.

Quote from: bryant.coleman on December 15, 2020, 12:44:07 AM

That said, I would pick Pant over Saha. The latter is 36 years old and I think picking him over a promising player such as Pant will affect the morale of the younger players. And as far as the bowling attack is concerned, would rather prefer 4 pacers. Indications are that the track at Adelaide will be more supportive towards the pace bowlers.

I would prefer Saha over Pant because of his wicket keeping skills and i have seen Pant dropping catches behind the stumps and it will only boost his morale to work on his skills.

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Quote from: JSRAW on December 15, 2020, 09:09:31 AM

Yeah but he always takes wickets in every opening game and then gets injured. Day night game might create some opportunity for off spinners, Oz will use Nathon Lyon so India should use Ashwin accordingly. Jadeja is defensive bowler and Kuldeep didn't look that good during the warm up games so that's another reason. I think Vihari is going to bowl as part-timer.

I don't know whether Vihari can bowl as much as all-rounders such as Jadeja, but after reading your post now it sounds to me that including Ashwin may not be a bad idea. After all, Australians do have vulnerabilities against spin bowlers. I have a feeling that India is going to win the first match. Everyone seems to have written them off, and recently Michael Vaughan came up with his prediction of 0-4 series loss for India. But Kohli and the team has proved many times that they have the ability to perform exceptionally well when playing as the underdogs.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on December 15, 2020, 07:27:54 AM

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I think India may go with Bumrah-Shami-Umesh-Ashwin combination.

Ashwin don't have a good reputation outside the subcontinent. On top of that, the pacers are in very good form. So I would prefer going with four pacers, rather than the combination of three pacers and one spinner. But still someone who can bowl a few overs of part-time spin is required and unfortunately India doesn't have anyone of that category in their squad.

Yeah but he always takes wickets in every opening game and then gets injured. Day night game might create some opportunity for off spinners, Oz will use Nathon Lyon so India should use Ashwin accordingly. Jadeja is defensive bowler and Kuldeep didn't look that good during the warm up games so that's another reason. I think Vihari is going to bowl as part-timer.

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Quote from: JSRAW on December 15, 2020, 02:46:19 AM

I think India may go with Bumrah-Shami-Umesh-Ashwin combination.

Ashwin don't have a good reputation outside the subcontinent. On top of that, the pacers are in very good form. So I would prefer going with four pacers, rather than the combination of three pacers and one spinner. But still someone who can bowl a few overs of part-time spin is required and unfortunately India doesn't have anyone of that category in their squad.

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Marcus Harris could be a contender for opening slot but not Tim Paine as he never opened the inning, he's more of middle-lower middle batsman. Both teams are having tough time on selection.

For Australia Top order and Cameron Green's concussion seems serious drama and India is also confused over Shaw vs Gill / Pant vs Saha and 4 seam bowler attack vs 3 seam + 1 spinner.

The latest news is that Cameron Green will make his test debut if he passes the fitness test. Regarding Shaw vs Gill, I don't have a preference. I am not impressed by both the players so far in this tour. That said, I would pick Pant over Saha. The latter is 36 years old and I think picking him over a promising player such as Pant will affect the morale of the younger players. And as far as the bowling attack is concerned, would rather prefer 4 pacers. Indications are that the track at Adelaide will be more supportive towards the pace bowlers.

Earlier i had doubt over Cameron Green but after Will Pucovski concussion Green do have solid claim in the Playing XI, hopefully he clears the concussion test and earn his Test cap, he deserve it. I am fan of both Shaw and Gill but as of now Shaw seems to be in pretty bad phase, his shot selection is not looking great atm, on the other hand Gill looking good so would prefer Gill over Shaw.

On second thought India could try Vihari at the top order, he did open for Indian in the last tour and impressed many with his gritty innings. In SENA countries i would always prefer Pant over Saha because Pant is better batsman. There is no doubt that Saha is superior keeper than Pant but in SENA countries spin doesn't play big part and so far Pant did excellent job behind the wicket with our fast bowlers. If it was subcontinent pitch then Saha's selection makes much more sense but we never know what kohli and Shastri are up to?

I think India may go with Bumrah-Shami-Umesh-Ashwin combination.

My team for D/N test
Mayank
Gill /Vihari (Open or 6th spot)
Pujara
Virat
Rahane
Gill/Vihari (6th spot or Open)
Pant
Ashwin
Umesh
Shami
Bumrah

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Quote from: JSRAW on December 15, 2020, 12:36:56 AM

Marcus Harris could be a contender for opening slot but not Tim Paine as he never opened the inning, he's more of middle-lower middle batsman. Both teams are having tough time on selection.

For Australia Top order and Cameron Green's concussion seems serious drama and India is also confused over Shaw vs Gill / Pant vs Saha and 4 seam bowler attack vs 3 seam + 1 spinner.

The latest news is that Cameron Green will make his test debut if he passes the fitness test. Regarding Shaw vs Gill, I don't have a preference. I am not impressed by both the players so far in this tour. That said, I would pick Pant over Saha. The latter is 36 years old and I think picking him over a promising player such as Pant will affect the morale of the younger players. And as far as the bowling attack is concerned, would rather prefer 4 pacers. Indications are that the track at Adelaide will be more supportive towards the pace bowlers.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on December 14, 2020, 10:24:58 PM

Quote from: vella85 on December 14, 2020, 04:42:00 PM

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Labuschagne is a good player, but I don't think that he will be the suitable person to open batting for Australia. From what I have seen, he's more comfortable at no.3 or no.4 positions, or even further down the order. During the Sheffield Shield competition also he was batting at no.3 for his domestic side (Queensland Bulls). Why can't Marcus Harris or Tim Paine open the batting?

Marcus Harris could be a contender for opening slot but not Tim Paine as he never opened the inning, he's more of middle-lower middle batsman. Both teams are having tough time on selection.

For Australia Top order and Cameron Green's concussion seems serious drama and India is also confused over Shaw vs Gill / Pant vs Saha and 4 seam bowler attack vs 3 seam + 1 spinner.

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Quote from: vella85 on December 14, 2020, 04:42:00 PM

There is just 2 days before the first test match between Australia and India starts and the Australian selectors have some big decisions to make. There is talk that Marnus Labuschagne might open the batting as Warner is out injured and Will Pucovski is out with a concussion while another opener Joe Burns is out of form, averaging less than seven runs this season. I think this first test will be a close fought test match even though Australia has a lot more experience playing in day/night test matches.

Labuschagne is a good player, but I don't think that he will be the suitable person to open batting for Australia. From what I have seen, he's more comfortable at no.3 or no.4 positions, or even further down the order. During the Sheffield Shield competition also he was batting at no.3 for his domestic side (Queensland Bulls). Why can't Marcus Harris or Tim Paine open the batting?

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There is just 2 days before the first test match between Australia and India starts and the Australian selectors have some big decisions to make. There is talk that Marnus Labuschagne might open the batting as Warner is out injured and Will Pucovski is out with a concussion while another opener Joe Burns is out of form, averaging less than seven runs this season. I think this first test will be a close fought test match even though Australia has a lot more experience playing in day/night test matches.

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The series results would likely be in NZ favour only, but what I was mentioning is that atleast they need to play better in each innings. Like they did play second innings better than first and in the same way need to continue in the rest of the matches. This would just make match more interesting rather than just complete one sided which is just not anybody watches for.

There is no debate about New Zealand dominated West Indies in Test matches and i did not place a bet as the odds were really low and i wished that the team was stronger so that we could have better odds, even though West Indies played a better in the second innings they lost by an innings and we cannot expect anything better from this West Indies side until they give importance to players that have proper batting techniques and much better defense.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on December 14, 2020, 11:28:08 AM

Quote from: onrise on December 14, 2020, 09:52:33 AM

The series results would likely be in NZ favour only, but what I was mentioning is that atleast they need to play better in each innings. Like they did play second innings better than first and in the same way need to continue in the rest of the matches. This would just make match more interesting rather than just complete one sided which is just not anybody watches for.

This is actually bad news for teams such as India. With their series win against West Indies, New Zealand is having 480 point in the table for 2019–21 ICC World Test Championship. Both India and England have the same number of points, from the same number of matches. A series loss against Australia can sink India, and this can open the possibility of a final between Australia and New Zealand at Lord's.

@Vishnu.Reang I’m not sure if team India will be able to win this series without their charismatic captain Virat, but let’s hope that in the limited matches that he’ll be playing he helps them win in at least those matches. Furthermore while Virat departure will be a big blow for team India, the good news is that Rohit will be joining the team, and let’s hope that he can fill in the void left by Virat’s absence.

Sources:

https://cricket.yahoo.net/news/virat-kohli-opens-decision-come-180336221

https://www.icc-cricket.com/news/1933993

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Quote from: JSRAW on December 14, 2020, 11:52:15 AM

If ICC want any sort of success with this World Test Championship formula then for the next WTC edition they should make at least one change, like same match series for each country. Its bizarre that one country playing 20 tests and others are playing 10-12 matches just to win so-called prestigious Test Championship title.

This World Test Championship itself is a joke. It is impossible for such a tournament to get completed in just 3 years. And if they further elongate it, then it will become even more meaningless. IMO, only the top ranking 4-5 teams should take part in any such tournament. It will reduce the incidence of one sided matches. There are 12 test playing teams out there and it is not possible to get all these teams in to a single tournament, when a single test series can take two months to get completed.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on December 14, 2020, 11:28:08 AM

Quote from: onrise on December 14, 2020, 09:52:33 AM

The series results would likely be in NZ favour only, but what I was mentioning is that atleast they need to play better in each innings. Like they did play second innings better than first and in the same way need to continue in the rest of the matches. This would just make match more interesting rather than just complete one sided which is just not anybody watches for.

This is actually bad news for teams such as India. With their series win against West Indies, New Zealand is having 480 point in the table for 2019–21 ICC World Test Championship. Both India and England have the same number of points, from the same number of matches. A series loss against Australia can sink India, and this can open the possibility of a final between Australia and New Zealand at Lord's.

If ICC want any sort of success with this World Test Championship formula then for the next WTC edition they should make at least one change, like same match series for each country. Its bizarre that one country playing 20 tests and others are playing 10-12 matches just to win so-called prestigious Test Championship title.

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Quote from: onrise on December 14, 2020, 09:52:33 AM

The series results would likely be in NZ favour only, but what I was mentioning is that atleast they need to play better in each innings. Like they did play second innings better than first and in the same way need to continue in the rest of the matches. This would just make match more interesting rather than just complete one sided which is just not anybody watches for.

This is actually bad news for teams such as India. With their series win against West Indies, New Zealand is having 480 point in the table for 2019–21 ICC World Test Championship. Both India and England have the same number of points, from the same number of matches. A series loss against Australia can sink India, and this can open the possibility of a final between Australia and New Zealand at Lord's.

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