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England (Playing XI): Rory Burns, Dominic Sibley, Joe Root(c), Ben Stokes, Ollie Pope, Jos Buttler(w), Chris Woakes, Dominic Bess, Jofra Archer, Stuart Broad, James Anderson

West Indies (Playing XI): Kraigg Brathwaite, John Campbell, Shai Hope, Shamarh Brooks, Roston Chase, Jermaine Blackwood, Shane Dowrich(w), Jason Holder(c), Rahkeem Cornwall, Kemar Roach, Shannon Gabriel

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Edit : Roach got the first wicket (Sibley) score is 1/1/1
Interesting. Anderson, Broad would go on together in the bowling attack with Woakes and Archer too on the side. I think the great batting of Ben Stokes has allowed them to go with 5 full time bowlers and Chris Woakes can bat too. I think England have realized that key to win this series is to bowl out west Indies ASAP. But to be very true if you give a look on batting line up you would see just 3 big names. Root, Stokes and Buttler. What do you think JS? will this strategy work or it could backfire? West Indies are confident about their bowling line up too. But I have heard Gabriel is injured and is now off-field.
England went with the 4 seamers which is understandable on overcast and cloudy condition. Another reason to add 4 seamer is Ben stoke is not able to bawl in this match due to "Niggle" may be few overs at best. Joe Root gave some hint about it yesterday during his press conference when he was talking about Ben stokes.

England losing wickets today, they are already 4 down including Root and Stokes so this strategy is about to fail soon if that's the case. Now last recognized batting pair at the crease, in case they fail too then expecting some fightback from the lower order. English tailenders are capable of adding 50+ runs easily if not facing the new ball.

I am not sure why Windies included 2 spinners at such conditions, yeah Gabriel is also experiencing niggle issue but he's back, he's looking tired tho. May be that's why they added another spinner in the playing squad.  

This pair has literally saved England from a collapse of gigantic magnitude. I think this is the reason they are going with one less batsmen they are so confident about their batting. 350-400 on board is more than enough for the first innings considering you have 5 world class pacers. I think even if rain takes one day England could still wrap it up in remaining days but that's disheartening to see Rain forecast on almost all remaining 4 days. Let's see if rain can help west Indies draw this series Cheesy
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I doubt if Stokes going to surpass Jacques Kallis even on batting, let alone Sobers. If he's focusing on only Test/ODI then there is some chance that he could play longer and come close to them but again their Test batting average is above 55 and Stokes is still under 40 average.

He always perform in big games tho, which is commendable.
Ben Stokes will be in the class of Ian Botham and Andrew Flintoff and he could become the best all rounder England ever produced and it is a big shoe to fill considering i always felt Andrew Flintoff did not explore his full potential and the main reason is injuries and the performance in the 2005 Ashes where Flintoff was touching around 150 km/hr bowling deadly spells and scoring runs like he owns the pitch was a sight in itself. If Ben Stokes can take care of his fitness then he can fulfill his potential as he always rise according to the occasion and players who single handedly win matches and series will be remembered for decades.


Coming to the match, England is struggling at 131 for the loss of 4 wickets and i hope they can score around 250 runs.
Today we have 3 complete sessions and I watch some as well first two sessions belong to both teams but in third session Butler and Pope change all things for home team run rate is also very good and 100 runs partnership from these two bring England in very strong position now holder looking for new ball as may be its turns things for West Indies but now I am feeling England is going with upper hand.
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Does this look promising guys  Tongue



Possible rain on all five days of the match Lips sealed  I dont think we'll have a result out of this match even with the likes of Board, Anderson, Jofra and Woakes, unless the Windies were stupid enough to throw away the wickets as they did in the last day of the previous test.  
First session ends without any trouble and both teams done good job as West Indies take 2 crucial wickets and England 66 runs now two key men on crease these both can changed things for England if stay on crease for some more time.

Edit: Big wicket for West Indies Stokes bowled by Roach on 20.

The match is in very interesting phase. England can bat the whole day and get good runs from here and a grip on the match. On the other hand WI can get quick wickets after stokes dismissal , can bowl out England for cheap. Rory Burns is looking good for England at 54 runs.

WI would be happy till now as after winning the toss decided to field and already took 4 wickets for 126 runs. After the first wicket felling very early England did manage to slightly pull back things and now it will all be depended upon middle and lower middle order as this time Stokes got out very early.



The match is slipping from the hands of WI. The early advantage of getting stokes out is also now gone and England manage to keep the wickets in hand and scored over 200. Any score between 300 - 350 will be enough to make West Indies batsmen to panic. Still 17 overs left in the day and england looking favorite through out the first day of this test.
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Coming to the match, England is struggling at 131 for the loss of 4 wickets and i hope they can score around 250 runs.

Its time to see the odds. The match is at a point where you should bet on either side and get good odds.

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I doubt if Stokes going to surpass Jacques Kallis even on batting, let alone Sobers. If he's focusing on only Test/ODI then there is some chance that he could play longer and come close to them but again their Test batting average is above 55 and Stokes is still under 40 average.

He always perform in big games tho, which is commendable.
Ben Stokes will be in the class of Ian Botham and Andrew Flintoff and he could become the best all rounder England ever produced and it is a big shoe to fill considering i always felt Andrew Flintoff did not explore his full potential and the main reason is injuries and the performance in the 2005 Ashes where Flintoff was touching around 150 km/hr bowling deadly spells and scoring runs like he owns the pitch was a sight in itself. If Ben Stokes can take care of his fitness then he can fulfill his potential as he always rise according to the occasion and players who single handedly win matches and series will be remembered for decades.


Coming to the match, England is struggling at 131 for the loss of 4 wickets and i hope they can score around 250 runs.
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England (Playing XI): Rory Burns, Dominic Sibley, Joe Root(c), Ben Stokes, Ollie Pope, Jos Buttler(w), Chris Woakes, Dominic Bess, Jofra Archer, Stuart Broad, James Anderson

West Indies (Playing XI): Kraigg Brathwaite, John Campbell, Shai Hope, Shamarh Brooks, Roston Chase, Jermaine Blackwood, Shane Dowrich(w), Jason Holder(c), Rahkeem Cornwall, Kemar Roach, Shannon Gabriel

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Edit : Roach got the first wicket (Sibley) score is 1/1/1
Interesting. Anderson, Broad would go on together in the bowling attack with Woakes and Archer too on the side. I think the great batting of Ben Stokes has allowed them to go with 5 full time bowlers and Chris Woakes can bat too. I think England have realized that key to win this series is to bowl out west Indies ASAP. But to be very true if you give a look on batting line up you would see just 3 big names. Root, Stokes and Buttler. What do you think JS? will this strategy work or it could backfire? West Indies are confident about their bowling line up too. But I have heard Gabriel is injured and is now off-field.
England went with the 4 seamers which is understandable on overcast and cloudy condition. Another reason to add 4 seamer is Ben stoke is not able to bawl in this match due to "Niggle" may be few overs at best. Joe Root gave some hint about it yesterday during his press conference when he was talking about Ben stokes.

England losing wickets today, they are already 4 down including Root and Stokes so this strategy is about to fail soon if that's the case. Now last recognized batting pair at the crease, in case they fail too then expecting some fightback from the lower order. English tailenders are capable of adding 50+ runs easily if not facing the new ball.

I am not sure why Windies included 2 spinners at such conditions, yeah Gabriel is also experiencing niggle issue but he's back, he's looking tired tho. May be that's why they added another spinner in the playing squad.  

Does this look promising guys  Tongue



Possible rain on all five days of the match Lips sealed  I dont think we'll have a result out of this match even with the likes of Board, Anderson, Jofra and Woakes, unless the Windies were stupid enough to throw away the wickets as they did in the last day of the previous test.  
So far so good.
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Does this look promising guys  Tongue



Possible rain on all five days of the match Lips sealed  I dont think we'll have a result out of this match even with the likes of Board, Anderson, Jofra and Woakes, unless the Windies were stupid enough to throw away the wickets as they did in the last day of the previous test.  
First session ends without any trouble and both teams done good job as West Indies take 2 crucial wickets and England 66 runs now two key men on crease these both can changed things for England if stay on crease for some more time.

Edit: Big wicket for West Indies Stokes bowled by Roach on 20.

The match is in very interesting phase. England can bat the whole day and get good runs from here and a grip on the match. On the other hand WI can get quick wickets after stokes dismissal , can bowl out England for cheap. Rory Burns is looking good for England at 54 runs.
Now England 123/4 Burns also gone Butler and Pope on crease last pair then we have very long tail of bowlers for West Indies Chase done usual job second over and Burns wicket good cricket by them.
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Does this look promising guys  Tongue



Possible rain on all five days of the match Lips sealed  I dont think we'll have a result out of this match even with the likes of Board, Anderson, Jofra and Woakes, unless the Windies were stupid enough to throw away the wickets as they did in the last day of the previous test.  
First session ends without any trouble and both teams done good job as West Indies take 2 crucial wickets and England 66 runs now two key men on crease these both can changed things for England if stay on crease for some more time.

Edit: Big wicket for West Indies Stokes bowled by Roach on 20.

The match is in very interesting phase. England can bat the whole day and get good runs from here and a grip on the match. On the other hand WI can get quick wickets after stokes dismissal , can bowl out England for cheap. Rory Burns is looking good for England at 54 runs.
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Does this look promising guys  Tongue



Possible rain on all five days of the match Lips sealed  I dont think we'll have a result out of this match even with the likes of Board, Anderson, Jofra and Woakes, unless the Windies were stupid enough to throw away the wickets as they did in the last day of the previous test.  
First session ends without any trouble and both teams done good job as West Indies take 2 crucial wickets and England 66 runs now two key men on crease these both can changed things for England if stay on crease for some more time.

@BitSat19 yes so far no signs of rains so that’s good but England have lost Stokes and that’s bad, therefore it’ll be really interesting to see if other player’s will be able to step up or no to help the team set up a big total. @akhjob even if rains limit the playing time I yet feel that West Indies will choke under pressure if they loose few early wickets, and further I have full faith in England’s bowling line-up to take those early wickets. Also I’m once again wagering on England to win this match, so wanted to know what are you’ll predictions for this game?.
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Possible rain on all five days of the match Lips sealed  I dont think we'll have a result out of this match even with the likes of Board, Anderson, Jofra and Woakes, unless the Windies were stupid enough to throw away the wickets as they did in the last day of the previous test.  
First session ends without any trouble and both teams done good job as West Indies take 2 crucial wickets and England 66 runs now two key men on crease these both can changed things for England if stay on crease for some more time.

Edit: Big wicket for West Indies Stokes bowled by Roach on 20.
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Possible rain on all five days of the match Lips sealed  I dont think we'll have a result out of this match even with the likes of Board, Anderson, Jofra and Woakes, unless the Windies were stupid enough to throw away the wickets as they did in the last day of the previous test. 
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The chance of England winning this test match is more than 50 percent after their brilliant performance in the last match. With the rain the match can also end in draw. I personally do not want to see it ends in a draw as this match will affect the series too.
England is playing this match with the best bowling combination they have with James Anderson, Stuart Broad, Jofra Archer, Chris Woakes and Dom Bess the sole spinner. They have a packed bowling unit and now the batting has to score some runs.

England had a terrible start with Sibley going without scoring a run and now they lost Joe Root and one of the craziest fashion, a run out in Test which could fetch great odds if you are gambling.
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Garry Sobers batting stats are ridiculously good. If Ben Stokes wants to surpass him in near future then he needs to work on his bowling. Considering his recent bowling rank (23th), i would say real hard work and if continue his batting form for the next 2 years then there is a good chance.

Being a All-rounder is tough job indeed, that's why we don't see many top-notch all rounders in intl cricket.
Garry Sobers is the benchmark when it comes to all rounders in world cricket as he was an explosive batsman and he could bowl fast and would bowl spin according to the pitch condition and he was a brilliant fielder in slips as well as in the outfield and there is only Jacques Kallis to compare to that level of skill level in the history of cricket and for Ben Stokes to reach those levels he needs to improve his catching skills as i have seen him dropping catches and need to play consistently for a longer period of time.
I doubt if Stokes going to surpass Jacques Kallis even on batting, let alone Sobers. If he's focusing on only Test/ODI then there is some chance that he could play longer and come close to them but again their Test batting average is above 55 and Stokes is still under 40 average.

He always perform in big games tho, which is commendable.

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England (Playing XI): Rory Burns, Dominic Sibley, Joe Root(c), Ben Stokes, Ollie Pope, Jos Buttler(w), Chris Woakes, Dominic Bess, Jofra Archer, Stuart Broad, James Anderson

West Indies (Playing XI): Kraigg Brathwaite, John Campbell, Shai Hope, Shamarh Brooks, Roston Chase, Jermaine Blackwood, Shane Dowrich(w), Jason Holder(c), Rahkeem Cornwall, Kemar Roach, Shannon Gabriel

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Edit : Roach got the first wicket (Sibley) score is 1/1/1
Interesting. Anderson, Broad would go on together in the bowling attack with Woakes and Archer too on the side. I think the great batting of Ben Stokes has allowed them to go with 5 full time bowlers and Chris Woakes can bat too. I think England have realized that key to win this series is to bowl out west Indies ASAP. But to be very true if you give a look on batting line up you would see just 3 big names. Root, Stokes and Buttler. What do you think JS? will this strategy work or it could backfire? West Indies are confident about their bowling line up too. But I have heard Gabriel is injured and is now off-field.
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Garry Sobers batting stats are ridiculously good. If Ben Stokes wants to surpass him in near future then he needs to work on his bowling. Considering his recent bowling rank (23th), i would say real hard work and if continue his batting form for the next 2 years then there is a good chance.

Being a All-rounder is tough job indeed, that's why we don't see many top-notch all rounders in intl cricket.
Garry Sobers is the benchmark when it comes to all rounders in world cricket as he was an explosive batsman and he could bowl fast and would bowl spin according to the pitch condition and he was a brilliant fielder in slips as well as in the outfield and there is only Jacques Kallis to compare to that level of skill level in the history of cricket and for Ben Stokes to reach those levels he needs to improve his catching skills as i have seen him dropping catches and need to play consistently for a longer period of time.
I doubt if Stokes going to surpass Jacques Kallis even on batting, let alone Sobers. If he's focusing on only Test/ODI then there is some chance that he could play longer and come close to them but again their Test batting average is above 55 and Stokes is still under 40 average.

He always perform in big games tho, which is commendable.

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England (Playing XI): Rory Burns, Dominic Sibley, Joe Root(c), Ben Stokes, Ollie Pope, Jos Buttler(w), Chris Woakes, Dominic Bess, Jofra Archer, Stuart Broad, James Anderson

West Indies (Playing XI): Kraigg Brathwaite, John Campbell, Shai Hope, Shamarh Brooks, Roston Chase, Jermaine Blackwood, Shane Dowrich(w), Jason Holder(c), Rahkeem Cornwall, Kemar Roach, Shannon Gabriel

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Edit : Roach got the first wicket (Sibley) score is 1/1/1
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Indications are that the England pace attack will consist of Broad, Woakes and Archer. That means that James Anderson and Sam Curran may be dropped for the third test. I would like to include Anderson in the place of Archer, as I have always believed that the latter is too overhyped. His performance was not that satisfactory during the first test as well. On top of that, he have issues with his discipline and that may negatively impact the team bonding.
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The last and final test between England and WestIndies will be played tomorrow. This match will decide who is the winner of this test series. The win is important for both the teams especially WestIndies. It will be a big achievement for them to win a test series in England, provided they are able to do so. In about 5 days times, we will see who will take away the Wisden Trophy.
After the second match performance by England I doubt there is any chance that West Indies would be able to survive against them. They have their men back. Even Archer would play the next match and hopefully Anderson too. So the bowling would become even more interesting and difficult to choose from. And yes stokes as we have already seen is on fire so I expect it to be a one sided encounter.
Weather is very serious threat for next third and final test if its interrupted then surely West Indies is going to be in good otherwise its surely going to be one sided affair for England because now they have main bowlers set and Stokes form is also very good just need 1 or 2 batsmen to stay on and give good response.
Yes, i read an article there is a 82% chance of precipitation on the second day of the match. While 60% chances of rain on all the three days thereafter. Manchester or I should say Whole England has the problem of rains in this season. So no one can do anything about this. But lets see England took the match even when more than 50 overs were ruined by rain. I expect a similar performance today.

The chance of England winning this test match is more than 50 percent after their brilliant performance in the last match. With the rain the match can also end in draw. I personally do not want to see it ends in a draw as this match will affect the series too.
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The last and final test between England and WestIndies will be played tomorrow. This match will decide who is the winner of this test series. The win is important for both the teams especially WestIndies. It will be a big achievement for them to win a test series in England, provided they are able to do so. In about 5 days times, we will see who will take away the Wisden Trophy.
After the second match performance by England I doubt there is any chance that West Indies would be able to survive against them. They have their men back. Even Archer would play the next match and hopefully Anderson too. So the bowling would become even more interesting and difficult to choose from. And yes stokes as we have already seen is on fire so I expect it to be a one sided encounter.
Weather is very serious threat for next third and final test if its interrupted then surely West Indies is going to be in good otherwise its surely going to be one sided affair for England because now they have main bowlers set and Stokes form is also very good just need 1 or 2 batsmen to stay on and give good response.
Yes, i read an article there is a 82% chance of precipitation on the second day of the match. While 60% chances of rain on all the three days thereafter. Manchester or I should say Whole England has the problem of rains in this season. So no one can do anything about this. But lets see England took the match even when more than 50 overs were ruined by rain. I expect a similar performance today.
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Garry Sobers batting stats are ridiculously good. If Ben Stokes wants to surpass him in near future then he needs to work on his bowling. Considering his recent bowling rank (23th), i would say real hard work and if continue his batting form for the next 2 years then there is a good chance.

Being a All-rounder is tough job indeed, that's why we don't see many top-notch all rounders in intl cricket.
Garry Sobers is the benchmark when it comes to all rounders in world cricket as he was an explosive batsman and he could bowl fast and would bowl spin according to the pitch condition and he was a brilliant fielder in slips as well as in the outfield and there is only Jacques Kallis to compare to that level of skill level in the history of cricket and for Ben Stokes to reach those levels he needs to improve his catching skills as i have seen him dropping catches and need to play consistently for a longer period of time.
Currently we have hot topic is Stokes good enough to compare with Garry Sobers and Jack Kallis then reply is no but he need few things as still he can play for 6 to 7 years just done some hard work in bowling and fielding then surely he can reach on level where we will talk him with these greatest all rounders right now he need to do some hard work with these two departments because these are not fair enough to talk him with this all.
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Garry Sobers batting stats are ridiculously good. If Ben Stokes wants to surpass him in near future then he needs to work on his bowling. Considering his recent bowling rank (23th), i would say real hard work and if continue his batting form for the next 2 years then there is a good chance.

Being a All-rounder is tough job indeed, that's why we don't see many top-notch all rounders in intl cricket.
Garry Sobers is the benchmark when it comes to all rounders in world cricket as he was an explosive batsman and he could bowl fast and would bowl spin according to the pitch condition and he was a brilliant fielder in slips as well as in the outfield and there is only Jacques Kallis to compare to that level of skill level in the history of cricket and for Ben Stokes to reach those levels he needs to improve his catching skills as i have seen him dropping catches and need to play consistently for a longer period of time.
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Weather is very serious threat for next third and final test if its interrupted then surely West Indies is going to be in good otherwise its surely going to be one sided affair for England because now they have main bowlers set and Stokes form is also very good just need 1 or 2 batsmen to stay on and give good response.
I hope the weather will not play the anti hero in the series and according to the weather reports there might be light showers in the coming week and hopefully it will not hurt the series. It is a really good opportunity for West Indies to draw the series but i am betting on England to win the match and series. As MFahad said the competition is between Jason Holder and Ben Stokes who were crucial in the first two matches.
I personally also don't like weather do any thing with this series decider but we are nothing in front of nature so we have to face currently England is very good after losing first test good come back in second and looking for win in third Stokes is really on top for them Holder is not good as he need to be specially batting form is very poor but still its could be very interesting match to watch.
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