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Quote from: UmerIdrees on July 19, 2020, 05:58:45 AM

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Btw, I dont know what came over the WI batsmen, 13 runs of Woakes and now 17 of Board. Only 203 runs more to avoid a follow-on.

Never expected Joseph to play this well though he just got out. Nevertheless, he played really well like a top order batsman. West Indies could actually drag this to a draw as long as they continue playing in this manner.

Am expecting Stokes to bowl better than other bowlers here though picking up 19 wickets for a win is a tough task unless West Indies throw away their wickets. My bet right now is on a draw thanks to rain interference.

WI although looking safe but wickets can fall quickly too. Kraigg Brathwaite looking good and should bat sensibly for most part of the innings. Apparently the match goings towards a draw but some quick wickets can make match much more interesting.

Is there prediction of any more rain in Manchester for next two days ?

West Indies are looking pretty sturdy with their batting today. No nuisance batting and I think they are pretty much prepared mentally for a draw so that they don't atleast lose this series. I think if they are able to bat the day today the match is pretty much a draw then. Even I am surprised that why Stokes hasn't been bowling so far. I thought he would be bowling in the first few overs. England need him desperately now.

Quote from: JSRAW on July 19, 2020, 04:50:41 AM

Bad luck for England and its seems that we are left with only 2 possibility..

- Windies batting well and avoiding follow on, result draw
- England bowling well and getting 19 wickets as quick as possible.

Edit
Game on! around 180 overs left in case of no rain interruption.

Even though the second option looks a bit skeptical. I believe England could have easily done that on any other day against west Indies. But this bowling line up just doesn't adds up to bowl out West Indies Twice.

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Quote from: Haunebu on July 19, 2020, 05:52:53 AM

Quote from: akhjob on July 19, 2020, 05:33:29 AM

Btw, I dont know what came over the WI batsmen, 13 runs of Woakes and now 17 of Board. Only 203 runs more to avoid a follow-on.

Never expected Joseph to play this well though he just got out. Nevertheless, he played really well like a top order batsman. West Indies could actually drag this to a draw as long as they continue playing in this manner.

Am expecting Stokes to bowl better than other bowlers here though picking up 19 wickets for a win is a tough task unless West Indies throw away their wickets. My bet right now is on a draw thanks to rain interference.

WI although looking safe but wickets can fall quickly too. Kraigg Brathwaite looking good and should bat sensibly for most part of the innings. Apparently the match goings towards a draw but some quick wickets can make match much more interesting.

Is there prediction of any more rain in Manchester for next two days ?

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Quote from: akhjob on July 19, 2020, 05:33:29 AM

Btw, I dont know what came over the WI batsmen, 13 runs of Woakes and now 17 of Board. Only 203 runs more to avoid a follow-on.

Never expected Joseph to play this well though he just got out. Nevertheless, he played really well like a top order batsman. West Indies could actually drag this to a draw as long as they continue playing in this manner.

Am expecting Stokes to bowl better than other bowlers here though picking up 19 wickets for a win is a tough task unless West Indies throw away their wickets. My bet right now is on a draw thanks to rain interference.

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Quote from: AB de Royse777 on July 19, 2020, 03:29:54 AM

Quote from: akhjob on July 19, 2020, 12:33:46 AM

Lol. I was alo tempted when I saw the odds on the draw.

Too late to get that odd unless we have one or two sessions to be played and there is a chance for England to win and then rain comes again :-P

I highly doubt such an odd will come by again unless WI are forced to follow-on and is sure to lose the match. I am not gonna bet on whether it is going to rain or not

Btw, I dont know what came over the WI batsmen, 13 runs of Woakes and now 17 of Board. Only 203 runs more to avoid a follow-on.

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Quote from: JohnBitCo on July 19, 2020, 05:11:54 AM

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Quote from: akhjob on July 19, 2020, 12:33:46 AM

Lol. I was alo tempted when I saw the odds on the draw.

Too late to get that odd unless we have one or two sessions to be played and there is a chance for England to win and then rain comes again :-P

So you want history to repeat itself so that we can jump into the bets and opt for an draw with good odds Wink

By the way I am sure that even this happens again we might be too lazy again and miss the opportunity. Roll Eyes

Look like after one day of rain West Indies back in good today both batsman doing very good job and 50 runs partnership in just 11 overs if now good time for place a bet on draw as its not easy for England to have 19 wickets as West Indian batsmen not on defence they are attacking which is very good from them.

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Quote from: AB de Royse777 on July 19, 2020, 03:29:54 AM

Quote from: akhjob on July 19, 2020, 12:33:46 AM

Lol. I was alo tempted when I saw the odds on the draw.

Too late to get that odd unless we have one or two sessions to be played and there is a chance for England to win and then rain comes again :-P

So you want history to repeat itself so that we can jump into the bets and opt for an draw with good odds Wink

By the way I am sure that even this happens again we might be too lazy again and miss the opportunity. Roll Eyes

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Bad luck for England and its seems that we are left with only 2 possibility..

- Windies batting well and avoiding follow on, result draw
- England bowling well and getting 19 wickets as quick as possible.

Edit
Game on! around 180 overs left in case of no rain interruption.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on July 19, 2020, 03:52:19 AM

That is bad news if there is rain then it will jeopardise the match or England can easily bowl out West Indies before they even reach 200. Already they have lost one wicket. Waiting for the match to begin.

I think the way it can be said, on the ground it was not that easy at all. They only lost one wicket so what? WI team batted well in the first match, or they would not win that match.

I think we all are underestimating this WI team even after showing some good bowling and batting performance in the first Test.

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Quote from: ene1980 on July 18, 2020, 06:50:34 PM

Quote from: vella85 on July 18, 2020, 06:44:38 PM

There can still be a result out of this match if the rain stays away because all it takes is for England to take a few quick wickets which then puts the pressure on the WI and as we have seen in the past the WI do crack under pressure. Right now the only team I can seeing winning is England as they can bowl the WI out for say 250 and then bat until they have a 380 run and put the WI into bat and see how they go. I can only see two outcomes here, England win or a drawn match.

The weather is not that promising as the forecast says we might see rainfall in the afternoon and if we see delays like these then there is a possibility that West Indies could draw the match. If England is playing their best bowlers then we might see West Indies crumble under pressure but that is not the case in this match and West Indies could easily defend for 90 overs with 19 wickets remaining.

That is bad news if there is rain then it will jeopardise the match or England can easily bowl out West Indies before they even reach 200. Already they have lost one wicket. Waiting for the match to begin.

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Quote from: JohnBitCo on July 19, 2020, 01:15:45 AM

The odds changes pretty quickly and if we wait a bit, we may not get same attractive odds. I checked the odds at https://www.oddschecker.com/cricket/england-v-west-indies-test-series

Just checked the site. I was not aware of it. Yeah it does changes very fast. I was checking in sportsbet and the odd was worse at that time.

Quote from: akhjob on July 19, 2020, 12:33:46 AM

Lol. I was alo tempted when I saw the odds on the draw.

Too late to get that odd unless we have one or two sessions to be played and there is a chance for England to win and then rain comes again :-P

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Quote from: AB de Royse777 on July 18, 2020, 11:10:54 AM

I was tempted to place a bet on the Draw market but looking at the odd now, I was disappointed:

@JohnBitCo, which bookies was giving you this odd?

The odds changes pretty quickly and if we wait a bit, we may not get same attractive odds. I checked the odds at https://www.oddschecker.com/cricket/england-v-west-indies-test-series

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Quote from: vella85 on July 18, 2020, 06:44:38 PM

There can still be a result out of this match if the rain stays away because all it takes is for England to take a few quick wickets which then puts the pressure on the WI and as we have seen in the past the WI do crack under pressure. Right now the only team I can seeing winning is England as they can bowl the WI out for say 250 and then bat until they have a 380 run and put the WI into bat and see how they go. I can only see two outcomes here, England win or a drawn match.

Yeah, only England has a chance to win this match but I think we'll have a draw here. We only have a maximum of 180 overs in two days, so if England manages to get Windies out under 270 runs, they shouldn't go to bat but should enforce a follow-on and go for the kill if they want a result out of this match. I also doubt there will be some weather interference like bad light or some drizzles, so maybe we'll see around 160 overs, so it's better to enforce a follow-on incase Windies fall short of 270.

Quote from: AB de Royse777 on July 18, 2020, 11:10:54 AM

I was tempted to place a bet on the Draw market but looking at the odd now, I was disappointed:

https://i.imgur.com/5uzG3Wt.png

@JohnBitCo, which bookies was giving you this odd?

Lol. I was alo tempted when I saw the odds on the draw.

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Quote from: vella85 on July 18, 2020, 06:44:38 PM

There can still be a result out of this match if the rain stays away because all it takes is for England to take a few quick wickets which then puts the pressure on the WI and as we have seen in the past the WI do crack under pressure. Right now the only team I can seeing winning is England as they can bowl the WI out for say 250 and then bat until they have a 380 run and put the WI into bat and see how they go. I can only see two outcomes here, England win or a drawn match.

The weather is not that promising as the forecast says we might see rainfall in the afternoon and if we see delays like these then there is a possibility that West Indies could draw the match. If England is playing their best bowlers then we might see West Indies crumble under pressure but that is not the case in this match and West Indies could easily defend for 90 overs with 19 wickets remaining.

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There can still be a result out of this match if the rain stays away because all it takes is for England to take a few quick wickets which then puts the pressure on the WI and as we have seen in the past the WI do crack under pressure. Right now the only team I can seeing winning is England as they can bowl the WI out for say 250 and then bat until they have a 380 run and put the WI into bat and see how they go. I can only see two outcomes here, England win or a drawn match.

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Quote from: FIFA worldcup on July 18, 2020, 07:31:33 AM

I think two days are also enough for the England team to bowl West Indies out but this rain is really helping west Indies. If they had the control, they would have want it to rain for all three days so that they can't lose the Match. Another thing is that if the match is drawn, the West Indies cannot lose the series.

The last time west indies draw the test series with ENG in England was 1995. And last time the won was on 1988. So it's time to make history for the team west indies.

Quote from: AB de Royse777 on July 18, 2020, 11:10:54 AM

I was tempted to place a bet on the Draw market but looking at the odd now, I was disappointed:

@JohnBitCo, which bookies was giving you this odd?

you may check out the odd on series drawn or series win by West indies.

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I was tempted to place a bet on the Draw market but looking at the odd now, I was disappointed:

@JohnBitCo, which bookies was giving you this odd?

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Quote from: JohnBitCo on July 18, 2020, 10:07:32 AM

I just looked at the odds of this match at the present moment and it does not look any attractive. Anyone of you planning to bet on this match at the present moment ?

Draw is very tempting. Imagine in the next two days there will be heavy rain in England and you have £100 on the draw market :-P

Honestly speaking, I am having a feeling that we may see a draw match in this one. West Indies batted well in the first Test and if they do the same in this Test then we may not see a result in this Test considering that we won't have any rain in the next two days.

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Quote from: 7788bitcoin on July 18, 2020, 09:37:08 AM

The rain helped the West Indies and if the rain wash out the entire day then it will be extra work for England to bowl out West Indies twice in two days and it is not an easy task as i really think West Indies can delay things further and rain might help them further in the last two days as well.

Way too many Cricket matches are getting washed out due to rain interference these days. Big stadiums around the world need to consider retractable roofs in order to overcome this issue and the boards probably have a lot to gain in the long term.

Matches that get washed out or affected by rain(D/L method etc) are unfair in so many ways to both teams and nothing has changed though decades have passed since the inception of Cricket. Disappointing indeed!

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I just looked at the odds of this match at the present moment and it does not look any attractive. Anyone of you planning to bet on this match at the present moment ?

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Quote from: Haunebu on July 18, 2020, 03:02:00 AM

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Do you really think that the West Indian batsmen are capable of playing the long game here? I don't think so. England came back strongly in this match and I don't see any hope for West Indies to be honest.

The rain helped the West Indies and if the rain wash out the entire day then it will be extra work for England to bowl out West Indies twice in two days and it is not an easy task as i really think West Indies can delay things further and rain might help them further in the last two days as well. If James Anderson and Jofra Archer is bowling along with Stuart Broad then i would not give West Indies any chance but with rain and just Broad in the team they have a chance to draw the match Wink

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