Hello guys!
Tomorrow we have 1st Test, West Indies tour of England at Southampton. So excited for this. After few months we will have live cricket. I really hope we will see some exciting cricket on the ground.
Let's get going with the discussion.
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If a team is performing badly then they would loose the Test status as Zimbabwe lost their Test status in the past and there is not much countries playing this popular sport as there are only 12 playing countries and in that West Indies select players from around 15 countries and in that Zimbabwe, Ireland and Afghanistan are weak teams as they cannot challenge top teams even at home and if you play the rest of the top countries more often it will be boring. England, Australia, South Africa, New Zealand and India are strong when their are playing at home and if any touring team defeats them then it will be a hard fought game.
I would consider this as a very weak defense of the ICC's decision to include 9 teams in the first division of test cricket.
Zimbabwe lost their test status because of the corruption issues within the cricket board, and not due to the weak performance of the Zimbabwean test team. You can argue that Zimbabwe, Ireland and Afghanistan are weak teams but I am going to disagree. At least Afghanistan deserves a chance to progress to the top division. They have proved that they can compete against the big-3 nations on a regular basis. I would argue that Afghanistan is as good as any of the lower ranking first division teams, such as West Indies and Sri Lanka.
If they want to give equal opportunity to everyone, then why they placed the three teams (Zimbabwe, Ireland and Afghanistan) in the second division? Why can't they place them with the other nine teams? I find it ridiculous to relegate a promising team such as Afghanistan, without any chance to quality to the first division. Test status should not be permanent. Teams which perform poorly should lose their test status.
If a team is performing badly then they would loose the Test status as Zimbabwe lost their Test status in the past and there is not much countries playing this popular sport as there are only 12 playing countries and in that West Indies select players from around 15 countries and in that Zimbabwe, Ireland and Afghanistan are weak teams as they cannot challenge top teams even at home and if you play the rest of the top countries more often it will be boring. England, Australia, South Africa, New Zealand and India are strong when their are playing at home and if any touring team defeats them then it will be a hard fought game. ICC I think is giving equal opportunity to all the teams. They are considering every team the same considering most of them are not playing a lot of Test cricket nowadays. This may be the reason why they have included all 9 teams in one division.
If they want to give equal opportunity to everyone, then why they placed the three teams (Zimbabwe, Ireland and Afghanistan) in the second division? Why can't they place them with the other nine teams? I find it ridiculous to relegate a promising team such as Afghanistan, without any chance to quality to the first division. Test status should not be permanent. Teams which perform poorly should lose their test status.
I too am expecting a complete white-wash but I want to see some fight from the West Indies team. I want them to at least drag the game to the last day. If it was one-sided it can be boring.
Nowadays most of the test matches can be boring and one-sided. Examples are the recent tours by South Africa to India, and the tour by Pakistan to Australia. And this is one of the reasons why I wanted two divisions in test cricket, with the strongest 5 teams in the first division and the other six teams in the second division. However, the ICC came up with the stupidest idea ever, and they included 9 teams in the first division.
ICC I think is giving equal opportunity to all the teams. They are considering every team the same considering most of them are not playing a lot of Test cricket nowadays. This may be the reason why they have included all 9 teams in one division.
Nowadays most of the test matches can be boring and one-sided. Examples are the recent tours by South Africa to India, and the tour by Pakistan to Australia. And this is one of the reasons why I wanted two divisions in test cricket, with the strongest 5 teams in the first division and the other six teams in the second division. However, the ICC came up with the stupidest idea ever, and they included 9 teams in the first division.
It's true that the recent matches are one-sided and as suggested if we have like 2 divisions we'll have some good matches. But I don't think that will be practically acceptable one when deciding the Test Champion. When it comes to ODI, we have like 8 established cricket teams(IND, AUS, ENG, NZ, SA, PAK, SL, WI/BAN). So in order to decide the test champion, we can't just remove 3-4 teams from the list and ask them to play in the qualifiers to compete with the top teams for the Test championship. The match will last for 5 days if West indies are able to show some good performance. Both teams will be playing after a long time and it will be interesting to see how they react to the conditions. England may have slight advantage as they have already played a warmup match recently and the series is going to be in their homeland but i will not under estimate the WI team this time.
Take a look at the West Indies squad and tell me one player who is consistent in the Test level, there are players that performs well in the ODI format in that squad like Shai Hope but to understand the real situation take a look at all the Test averages of the players that are in the squad and majority of the players average around 30 which is not even a standard in International cricket.I too am expecting a complete white-wash but I want to see some fight from the West Indies team. I want them to at least drag the game to the last day. If it was one-sided it can be boring.
The only hope for West Indies in the Southampton ground is that they defeated England recently twice in that arena and that is the only confidence they can have going into this match, their batting line up is pathetic and good luck dragging the game till the fifth day against James Anderson, Jofra Archer and Stuart Broad. Nowadays most of the test matches can be boring and one-sided. Examples are the recent tours by South Africa to India, and the tour by Pakistan to Australia. And this is one of the reasons why I wanted two divisions in test cricket, with the strongest 5 teams in the first division and the other six teams in the second division. However, the ICC came up with the stupidest idea ever, and they included 9 teams in the first division.
I don't think that will be a proper way to handle the championship. The current system is not that bad. There are some teams who play least International test matches which I think one of the major reason of having underperformance. Big teams like India, Australia, England play more matches than other which is another reason of them performing well. I too am expecting a complete white-wash but I want to see some fight from the West Indies team. I want them to at least drag the game to the last day. If it was one-sided it can be boring.
Nowadays most of the test matches can be boring and one-sided. Examples are the recent tours by South Africa to India, and the tour by Pakistan to Australia. And this is one of the reasons why I wanted two divisions in test cricket, with the strongest 5 teams in the first division and the other six teams in the second division. However, the ICC came up with the stupidest idea ever, and they included 9 teams in the first division.
Are you guys really interested in watching test matches without any spectators? Test matches with spectators themselves are boring sometimes which is why no spectators makes it even more boring in my opinion.
Generally, I don't bother about the audience 
I love to watch test matches with or without any spectators. I agree that its slow-paced but I don't think it's boring when played between equally matched teams. In T20, batsmen don't value their wicket, they just look at ways to hit the ball for runs. In Test cricket, batsmen actually value their wickets while trying to score runs and play as long as they can. A good ball deserves a leave and a bad one is punished to boundaries, you can see this in Tests. But in T20s, batsmen go after the bowlers all they have to worry about is runs. It is test format, and I am not expecting any miracles by the West Indians. Gone are the days, when they used to dominate this format. Now I would consider it a good performance by West Indies, if they somehow avoid a complete white-wash by the England team. BTW, I am very happy about Ben Stokes. He should be leading the team more often. He has got the right balance of aggression and deviousness.
I too am expecting a complete white-wash but I want to see some fight from the West Indies team. I want them to at least drag the game to the last day. If it was one-sided it can be boring. I completely forget that we are going to witness the first international cricket match after the three-month lockdown in a few days. Even without Root, Bairstow, Moin Ali and Curran, England looks far better than the West Indies team. Hope WI give a good fight for us and we don't see a 3-day match instead of 5 days.
It is test format, and I am not expecting any miracles by the West Indians. Gone are the days, when they used to dominate this format. Now I would consider it a good performance by West Indies, if they somehow avoid a complete white-wash by the England team. BTW, I am very happy about Ben Stokes. He should be leading the team more often. He has got the right balance of aggression and deviousness.
So what about the West Indies ? Are they coming with their full strength ? If they do not drop any player due to injury or covid19 we could witness interesting games between the two teams as clearly some of the England good players are out of the team.
I am not expecting West Indies to outperform England even if some of their players are not in the team, i do not remember a series in which West Indies was dominating in the Test level, if it is any other format then i would give them a chance but not in the Test format because they lack quality players who could play longer innings consistently.I completely forget that we are going to witness the first international cricket match after the three-month lockdown in a few days. Even without Root, Bairstow, Moin Ali and Curran, England looks far better than the West Indies team. Hope WI give a good fight for us and we don't see a 3-day match instead of 5 days.
If it goes to the 5th day i would be surprised.The match will last for 5 days if West indies are able to show some good performance. Both teams will be playing after a long time and it will be interesting to see how they react to the conditions. England may have slight advantage as they have already played a warmup match recently and the series is going to be in their homeland but i will not under estimate the WI team this time.
I completely forget that we are going to witness the first international cricket match after the three-month lockdown in a few days.
Are you guys really interested in watching test matches without any spectators? Test matches with spectators themselves are boring sometimes which is why no spectators makes it even more boring in my opinion..
If it is a one sided battle then there is nothing interesting to watch even if there is a million spectators and West Indies and England is not going to be a close match either as England might dominate them.
This is the main problem which I observed with test matches. Only popular series like the Ashes etc are usually viewed by test enthusiasts while the rest are usually viewed as highlights on YouTube etc.This is how I watch tests myself though I am not a test enthusiast. Also, England could face some issues even though they are technically a way stronger team due to the COVID effect. West Indies could surpris them if they bowl the right lines and lengths.
Who has the time to watch a match for 5 days when you can watch the highlights of the whole day in just 30 minutes? Test cricket is losing the charm because of the amount of time it consumes whereas other formats do not. This is another why you do not see crowds in the stadium.
If it is a one sided battle then there is nothing interesting to watch even if there is a million spectators and West Indies and England is not going to be a close match either as England might dominate them.
This is the main problem which I observed with test matches. Only popular series like the Ashes etc are usually viewed by test enthusiasts while the rest are usually viewed as highlights on YouTube etc.This is how I watch tests myself though I am not a test enthusiast. Also, England could face some issues even though they are technically a way stronger team due to the COVID effect. West Indies could surpris them if they bowl the right lines and lengths.
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England's 13 Men squad against Windies is ready to go.
- Jonny Bairstow and Moin Ali sitting out for 1st Match. (Root is already out due to his wife pregnancy)
- Sam Curren tested Negative but he's sitting out too.
- Total 9 reserve players if something goes south.
https://twitter.com/cricbuzz/status/1279355518407053312
https://www.cricbuzz.com/cricket-news/113368/jonny-bairstow-moeen-ali-left-out-of-england-squad-for-southampton-test-west-indies-cricket
So what about the West Indies ? Are they coming with their full strength ? If they do not drop any player due to injury or covid19 we could witness interesting games between the two teams as clearly some of the England good players are out of the team.- Jonny Bairstow and Moin Ali sitting out for 1st Match. (Root is already out due to his wife pregnancy)
- Sam Curren tested Negative but he's sitting out too.
- Total 9 reserve players if something goes south.
https://twitter.com/cricbuzz/status/1279355518407053312
https://www.cricbuzz.com/cricket-news/113368/jonny-bairstow-moeen-ali-left-out-of-england-squad-for-southampton-test-west-indies-cricket
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Test Reserves: James Bracey, Sam Curran, Ben Foakes, Dan Lawrence, Jack Leach, Saqib Mahmood, Craig Overton, Ollie Robinson, Olly Stone
yeah you are right. West Indies is good team for "one-day" match and "T-20". They are a little bit weak in test match. but they have plus point in this series. because some renowned players like Bairstow, Moin Ali and Root will not play in this series. if west indies will play this series with their full strength, then we are going to see a competitor series. Now I’m just waiting to see the west indies’ squad.
Are you guys really interested in watching test matches without any spectators? Test matches with spectators themselves are boring sometimes which is why no spectators makes it even more boring in my opinion.
If it is a one sided battle then there is nothing interesting to watch even if there is a million spectators and West Indies and England is not going to be a close match either as England might dominate them. It would have better if they organized T-20 matches instead since they are entertaining even without spectators. I can understand why test match enthusiasts are excited though.
If you are working or busy in life then you wont be able to follow these matches even you are a cricket enthusiast and most of them follow the highlights and that is the case with me but i will never miss the Ashes series but not interested in ther rest of the matches. I completely forget that we are going to witness the first international cricket match after the three-month lockdown in a few days.
Are you guys really interested in watching test matches without any spectators? Test matches with spectators themselves are boring sometimes which is why no spectators makes it even more boring in my opinion.It would have better if they organized T-20 matches instead since they are entertaining even without spectators. I can understand why test match enthusiasts are excited though.
I am not expecting West Indies to outperform England even if some of their players are not in the team, i do not remember a series in which West Indies was dominating in the Test level, if it is any other format then i would give them a chance but not in the Test format because they lack quality players who could play longer innings consistently.
If it goes to the 5th day i would be surprised.
If it goes to the 5th day i would be surprised.
And England will be playing in their home condition. So the things will be tougher for the West-indies.
I completely forget that we are going to witness the first international cricket match after the three-month lockdown in a few days. Even without Root, Bairstow, Moin Ali and Curran, England looks far better than the West Indies team. Hope WI give a good fight for us and we don't see a 3-day match instead of 5 days.
I am eagerly waiting for this. It's been 5-6 months since we haven't seen cricket. So what about the West Indies ? Are they coming with their full strength ? If they do not drop any player due to injury or covid19 we could witness interesting games between the two teams as clearly some of the England good players are out of the team.
I am not expecting West Indies to outperform England even if some of their players are not in the team, i do not remember a series in which West Indies was dominating in the Test level, if it is any other format then i would give them a chance but not in the Test format because they lack quality players who could play longer innings consistently.I completely forget that we are going to witness the first international cricket match after the three-month lockdown in a few days. Even without Root, Bairstow, Moin Ali and Curran, England looks far better than the West Indies team. Hope WI give a good fight for us and we don't see a 3-day match instead of 5 days.
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