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Quote from: JSRAW on December 10, 2020, 08:21:51 AM

Well i prefer 5 test match series whenever Pig 3 play against each other so i am bit pissed off that they are only playing 4 instead of 5 Grin

. Its part of the previous FTP so facilitating Tri or quad series was out of the question, at least for now.

Matches between the Pig 3 are always competitive, and highly revenue generating. So they need to play as many matches as possible. So I too would have preferred 5 test matches instead of 4. IMO, the Pig 3 (India, England and Australia) needs to make sure that at least 50% of the matches they play are between themselves. This will reduce the incidence of one-sided matches and will make sure that the three cricket boards are able to generate good revenue.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on December 10, 2020, 08:11:17 AM

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Well.... let me put it this way - 20 days of test cricket, 5 days of T20 and 3 days of ODI. So once again, the emphasis is given to the longer format. I am not sure whether they should play more than 3 test matches per bilateral series. They could have instead scheduled two more ODI matches. I am a big supporter of triangular/quadrangular series, but as of now it looks as if the BCCI is not interested in such tournaments.

Well i prefer 5 test match series whenever Pig 3 play against each other so i am bit pissed off that they are only playing 4 instead of 5 Grin

. Its part of the previous FTP so facilitating Tri or quad series was out of the question, at least for now.

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Quote from: JSRAW on December 10, 2020, 08:03:29 AM

India vs England Series schedule is out. It used to be 5 tests match series but this time they are playing only 4 Tests, may be due to covid?

4 Test Match Series

1st Test - 5 Feb-9 Feb, Chennai
2nd Test - 13 Feb-17 Feb, Chennai
3rd Test - 24 Feb - 28 Feb, Ahmedabad -DayNight
4th Test - 4 Mar-8 Mar, Ahmedabad

5 T-20 Match Series

1st - March 12, Motera, Ahmedabad
2nd - March 14, Motera, Ahmedabad
3rd - March 16, Motera, Ahmedabad
4th - March 18, Motera, Ahmedabad
5th - March 20, Motera, Ahmedabad

3 ODI Match Series

1st- March 23, Pune
2nd- March 26, Pune
3rd- March 28, Pune

Well.... let me put it this way - 20 days of test cricket, 5 days of T20 and 3 days of ODI. So once again, the emphasis is given to the longer format. I am not sure whether they should play more than 3 test matches per bilateral series. They could have instead scheduled two more ODI matches. I am a big supporter of triangular/quadrangular series, but as of now it looks as if the BCCI is not interested in such tournaments.

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India vs England Series schedule is out. It used to be 5 tests match series but this time they are playing only 4 Tests, may be due to covid?

4 Test Match Series

1st Test - 5 Feb-9 Feb, Chennai
2nd Test - 13 Feb-17 Feb, Chennai
3rd Test - 24 Feb - 28 Feb, Ahmedabad -DayNight
4th Test - 4 Mar-8 Mar, Ahmedabad

5 T-20 Match Series

1st - March 12, Motera, Ahmedabad
2nd - March 14, Motera, Ahmedabad
3rd - March 16, Motera, Ahmedabad
4th - March 18, Motera, Ahmedabad
5th - March 20, Motera, Ahmedabad

3 ODI Match Series

1st- March 23, Pune
2nd- March 26, Pune
3rd- March 28, Pune

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Quote from: JSRAW on December 09, 2020, 11:01:07 PM

He was not that bad either, his numbers not painting clear picture but he looked comfortable against the Indian pacers, He showed good temperament during both innings, he was bit unlucky at the first inning when he got out on very average ball. Situation might have been very different for him if he had the luck of Cameron.

Will Pucovski is a promising young player for Australia and I expect him to be a regular member of the squad within the next few years. He may be temporarily out of form, but that should not be held against him. Even star Australian batsmen such as David Warner had rough patches during their career (for example his bad form during the last Ashes series).

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Its a shame that this has happened to Will Pucovski as he was almost certain to play for Australia in the first test match. The concern with him is that this has happened many times already in his short career so I think the Australian selectors won't rush him into the side but I do hope we get to see him play in the test series, maybe he will debut in the Boxing Day test match?

I don't think that he would have got selected for the playing XI. His performance during the warmup match was not exactly satisfactory. In fact, none of the Australia A batsmen were impressive, apart from Cameron Green. If the selectors want to include Pucovski in the squad, then it is their decision. But I would rather advise them not to rush this young player before he is ready for it.

He was not that bad either, his numbers not painting clear picture but he looked comfortable against the Indian pacers, He showed good temperament during both innings, he was bit unlucky at the first inning when he got out on very average ball. Situation might have been very different for him if he had the luck of Cameron.

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Quote from: vella85 on December 09, 2020, 04:34:06 PM

Its a shame that this has happened to Will Pucovski as he was almost certain to play for Australia in the first test match. The concern with him is that this has happened many times already in his short career so I think the Australian selectors won't rush him into the side but I do hope we get to see him play in the test series, maybe he will debut in the Boxing Day test match?

I don't think that he would have got selected for the playing XI. His performance during the warmup match was not exactly satisfactory. In fact, none of the Australia A batsmen were impressive, apart from Cameron Green. If the selectors want to include Pucovski in the squad, then it is their decision. But I would rather advise them not to rush this young player before he is ready for it.

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I agree with you, Will Pucovski is a very talented player. He may not be in form in this match. I believe he will not disappoint the team selectors if he gets a chance to play in the Australia National team. C Green is in great form. He has done great batting as well as great bowling.

I was expecting Will Pucovski to make his debut against India but he retired hurt due to concession in the warm up match and i do not think that Australia will rush him for the series as teams are taking concession seriously and he will miss the tour. Green played well but i doubt whether he will make his debut in this series but as a fast bowling allrounder he will be a prospect for Australia.

Its a shame that this has happened to Will Pucovski as he was almost certain to play for Australia in the first test match. The concern with him is that this has happened many times already in his short career so I think the Australian selectors won't rush him into the side but I do hope we get to see him play in the test series, maybe he will debut in the Boxing Day test match?

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Quote from: LittleBitFunny on December 08, 2020, 10:01:39 AM

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I agree with you, Will Pucovski is a very talented player. He may not be in form in this match. I believe he will not disappoint the team selectors if he gets a chance to play in the Australia National team. C Green is in great form. He has done great batting as well as great bowling.

I was expecting Will Pucovski to make his debut against India but he retired hurt due to concession in the warm up match and i do not think that Australia will rush him for the series as teams are taking concession seriously and he will miss the tour. Green played well but i doubt whether he will make his debut in this series but as a fast bowling allrounder he will be a prospect for Australia.

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You are right. India team management should learn from Australia. Whenever a player plays well in IPL, the Indian board gives him a chance to play international series. And as usual due to lack of experience that player can not play as well as expected. We have seen Rabin Uthappa and Manish Panday before. They did great performances in IPL. But they could not play well in international matches. Now they are out of the Indian squad.

The players should adopt to the playing condition and any player that is capable of doing that will be successful in the international level, Robin Uthappa made his ODI and T20 debut in India and he played a really good innings in his debut match and Manish Panday made his debut in the tour to Zimbabwe and they did not adopt to different playing condition and hence they failed.

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Shaw is a talented young player no one doubts. He is only 21 years old. He has a lot of time in front of him to make his slot in the Indian team. Now he is in off form. Now if he is taken in the team, and if he can not perform well. However, the Indian team management will not give him another chance. I think, Shaw should prepare himself for Indian Best 11 through more training.

I would still say that Prithvi Shaw was thrusted in to the national team before he was ready for it. India should learn a lesson or two from the Australians. Look at the way they are handling Will Pucovski. Younger players are included in the national side, only after they get a lot of exposure from the A team tours and Sheffield Shield matches. This helps them a lot in handling the pressure of international cricket.

You are right. India team management should learn from Australia. Whenever a player plays well in IPL, the Indian board gives him a chance to play international series. And as usual due to lack of experience that player can not play as well as expected. We have seen Rabin Uthappa and Manish Panday before. They did great performances in IPL. But they could not play well in international matches. Now they are out of the Indian squad.

Playing in home and international series are completely different stages. Australian cricket board has a long process before a player debut an international cricket. The problem is not about only for Indian Cricket but The Southern Asian Cricket maintain same habit and most of them could not play well later. No longer hold their position as before.

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I don't mind all glitz, fame etc at the early age as long as they are willing to improve themselves and not losing focus. IPL act as scout platform for BCCI or in some extent other boards too. Likes of Shaun Marsh, Faf, Pollard, Narine, Watson names comes to my mind who gained popularity after featuring in the IPL and Chahal, Bumrah, Pandaya, Jadeja are IPL product as well.

Its still early for Gill, Prithvi etc and they are future so BCCI need to be very careful with the management.

They should not lose their focus. That is the most important fact. But from what I am seeing, that is not the case. Many of the younger players, who get good start with the IPL fail to translate those performances to the international stage. And this is not just applicable for players such as Gill and Prithvi, but to an extent applicable for Sanju Samson and Shreyas Iyer as well.

There are many differences between IPL and International matches. And IPL us a T20 game. T20, ODI and test are completely different in all formats. And the strategy of the game is also completely different. Young players are new. Their experience is low. So they can't even be patient in ODI or Test matches. So the expected results are not able to.

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Quote from: JSRAW on December 09, 2020, 01:00:14 AM

I don't mind all glitz, fame etc at the early age as long as they are willing to improve themselves and not losing focus. IPL act as scout platform for BCCI or in some extent other boards too. Likes of Shaun Marsh, Faf, Pollard, Narine, Watson names comes to my mind who gained popularity after featuring in the IPL and Chahal, Bumrah, Pandaya, Jadeja are IPL product as well.

Its still early for Gill, Prithvi etc and they are future so BCCI need to be very careful with the management.

They should not lose their focus. That is the most important fact. But from what I am seeing, that is not the case. Many of the younger players, who get good start with the IPL fail to translate those performances to the international stage. And this is not just applicable for players such as Gill and Prithvi, but to an extent applicable for Sanju Samson and Shreyas Iyer as well.

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Shaw and Gill were acting like, it was some kind of T-20 game. Prithvi Shaw is really struggling, it happened in IPL and he continued with bad form here as well. He was first choice for the opening slot along with Mayank Aggarwal, not sure if that's the case now.

This is what happens when some of the younger players get too much glitz before they get enough maturity. They need to understand that pocketing a multi-million IPL contract is not the final target. Ultimately, they need to perform for the national team and it is going to matter much more than their performance for the IPL franchise. This is applicable not just for Prithvi Shaw, but also for the other young players such as Shubman Gill and Shreyas Iyer.

I don't mind all glitz, fame etc at the early age as long as they are willing to improve themselves and not losing focus. IPL act as scout platform for BCCI or in some extent other boards too. Likes of Shaun Marsh, Faf, Pollard, Narine, Watson names comes to my mind who gained popularity after featuring in the IPL and Chahal, Bumrah, Pandaya, Jadeja are IPL product as well.

Its still early for Gill, Prithvi etc and they are future so BCCI need to be very careful with the management.

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Shaw is a talented young player no one doubts. He is only 21 years old. He has a lot of time in front of him to make his slot in the Indian team. Now he is in off form. Now if he is taken in the team, and if he can not perform well. However, the Indian team management will not give him another chance. I think, Shaw should prepare himself for Indian Best 11 through more training.

I would still say that Prithvi Shaw was thrusted in to the national team before he was ready for it. India should learn a lesson or two from the Australians. Look at the way they are handling Will Pucovski. Younger players are included in the national side, only after they get a lot of exposure from the A team tours and Sheffield Shield matches. This helps them a lot in handling the pressure of international cricket.

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The Australian Cricket Border was looking at Will Pucovski in this match. Everyone expected him to play a big innings. Because he has great skills. Everyone is hoping he will be a great batsman for the future Australia team. On the other hand, Cameron green is only 21 years old. His performance has fascinated everyone today. He is an all-rounder. If a player gets injured, we may see Cameron Green as his replacement.

One bad innings cannot be held liable for Will Pucovski, he scored two double centuries back to back in his past two innings and if he is given another opportunity he will be playing well. Cameron Green played well for his century and he is a talented allrounder and could be a genuine fast bowling allrounder for Australia in the future.

I agree with you, Will Pucovski is a very talented player. He may not be in form in this match. I believe he will not disappoint the team selectors if he gets a chance to play in the Australia National team. C Green is in great form. He has done great batting as well as great bowling.

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Quote from: JSRAW on December 08, 2020, 03:21:03 AM

Shaw and Gill were acting like, it was some kind of T-20 game. Prithvi Shaw is really struggling, it happened in IPL and he continued with bad form here as well. He was first choice for the opening slot along with Mayank Aggarwal, not sure if that's the case now.

This is what happens when some of the younger players get too much glitz before they get enough maturity. They need to understand that pocketing a multi-million IPL contract is not the final target. Ultimately, they need to perform for the national team and it is going to matter much more than their performance for the IPL franchise. This is applicable not just for Prithvi Shaw, but also for the other young players such as Shubman Gill and Shreyas Iyer.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on December 08, 2020, 12:25:48 AM

Disastrous batting performance by the Indians. With just one wicket remaining, they are leading by just 102 runs. And this was after a good start by Shubman Gill and Prithvi Shaw. Steketee has 5 wickets to his name till now, with a chance to get 6. Cameron Green also managed to pick two wickets (and that too crucial ones, of Gill and Shaw). Vihari and Rahane got starts, but they got out before they could get to 30.

No Indian players have been able to play big innings. WP Saha was unbeaten on 54 runs. C Green is playing very well in these tests match. In this innings, he has bowled only 4 overs. And take two opener batsmen PP Shaw and Shubman Gill's wickets. Because both of them are much efficient batsmen. There were two very important wickets. Because both of them are much efficient batsmen. Looks like the man of the match will be C Grenn.

Shaw and Gill were acting like, it was some kind of T-20 game. Prithvi Shaw is really struggling, it happened in IPL and he continued with bad form here as well. He was first choice for the opening slot along with Mayank Aggarwal, not sure if that's the case now.

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Disastrous batting performance by the Indians. With just one wicket remaining, they are leading by just 102 runs. And this was after a good start by Shubman Gill and Prithvi Shaw. Steketee has 5 wickets to his name till now, with a chance to get 6. Cameron Green also managed to pick two wickets (and that too crucial ones, of Gill and Shaw). Vihari and Rahane got starts, but they got out before they could get to 30.

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Quote from: LittleBitFunny on December 07, 2020, 08:27:49 AM

The Australian Cricket Border was looking at Will Pucovski in this match. Everyone expected him to play a big innings. Because he has great skills. Everyone is hoping he will be a great batsman for the future Australia team. On the other hand, Cameron green is only 21 years old. His performance has fascinated everyone today. He is an all-rounder. If a player gets injured, we may see Cameron Green as his replacement.

One bad innings cannot be held liable for Will Pucovski, he scored two double centuries back to back in his past two innings and if he is given another opportunity he will be playing well. Cameron Green played well for his century and he is a talented allrounder and could be a genuine fast bowling allrounder for Australia in the future.

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