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Quote from: ene1980 on July 19, 2020, 05:58:29 PM

Quote from: MFahad on July 19, 2020, 05:06:13 PM

Just remember WestIndies were 242 for 4 before their batting line up collapsed. WI top batsmen are in good form so England need more overs to dismiss 10 WestIndies players tomorrow. Also first they need to score a 100 more runs to secure their place and give a target above 300 runs. I don't see so many things happening tomorrow and this test match is heading towards a draw.

The smart thing is to give West Indies a chaseable target so that they will try to chase the total down thereby picking up the wickets and then we the audience will have an entertaining match, if not we will see a draw and so England do not need to put up a lead of 300 runs to put West Indies to bat, if the England captain is smart enough he will come out to bat for one hour and then declare the innings and put pressure back to West Indies.

Very true if England wants to win this series they will have to take the risk of giving west Indies a chaseable target. It was their badluck that they couldn't land West Indies into a follow on just because a few runs. But if they give west indies a chaseable target now only then west indies will try that target on an offensive mode otherwise they will bat defensively towards a draw only. I think England should try to bat for just 15 overs and try to score 70-80 runs in these overs and then just declare. A target around 300 would tease west indies to try and win and there would be an opportunity for England to take quick wickets.

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Quote from: ene1980 on July 19, 2020, 05:58:29 PM

if the England captain is smart enough he will come out to bat for one hour and then declare the innings and put pressure back to West Indies.

What happens if West Indies chase the total if it is around 250 runs, the entire media will slam the captain and no one will take a risk while making those decisions. Make some quick runs by England and then put the West Indies to bat with around 300 runs to chase on the final day with 3 sessions and they will try to defend as much as possible and if the bowlers can bowl at the right areas then we might see a challenge as players in this era does not have a solid defense.

I think this is the risk worth taking. A draw would still make sure they will not win the series. So if Joe's a good captain he should definitely go for a quick declaration. Playing too safe is the old method of playing a test match.

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Quote from: ene1980 on July 19, 2020, 05:58:29 PM

if the England captain is smart enough he will come out to bat for one hour and then declare the innings and put pressure back to West Indies.

What happens if West Indies chase the total if it is around 250 runs, the entire media will slam the captain and no one will take a risk while making those decisions. Make some quick runs by England and then put the West Indies to bat with around 300 runs to chase on the final day with 3 sessions and they will try to defend as much as possible and if the bowlers can bowl at the right areas then we might see a challenge as players in this era does not have a solid defense.

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Quote from: MFahad on July 19, 2020, 05:06:13 PM

Just remember WestIndies were 242 for 4 before their batting line up collapsed. WI top batsmen are in good form so England need more overs to dismiss 10 WestIndies players tomorrow. Also first they need to score a 100 more runs to secure their place and give a target above 300 runs. I don't see so many things happening tomorrow and this test match is heading towards a draw.

The smart thing is to give West Indies a chaseable target so that they will try to chase the total down thereby picking up the wickets and then we the audience will have an entertaining match, if not we will see a draw and so England do not need to put up a lead of 300 runs to put West Indies to bat, if the England captain is smart enough he will come out to bat for one hour and then declare the innings and put pressure back to West Indies.

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If someone here bet on a draw, they are most probably lucky since I never expected West Indies to fight back strongly even though rain helped them in a big way.

The only result from a situation like this is a draw, rain saved the West Indies from a possible defeat and with four sessions to go England will look to score some quick runs in the morning and then try to put pressure on the West Indies with a target of around 250 runs and if that is the case then we will see an interesting match whether West Indies will go for the win or go for the draw.

Now match is enter in very interesting stage currently England is leading by 219 runs and tomorrow we will have nearly 100 overs if England able to have 85 to 100 runs in 15 to 17 overs then they will attack on West Indies for next 80 overs and this could be really fun to watch how West Indies react and able to save this test.

Just remember WestIndies were 242 for 4 before their batting line up collapsed. WI top batsmen are in good form so England need more overs to dismiss 10 WestIndies players tomorrow. Also first they need to score a 100 more runs to secure their place and give a target above 300 runs. I don't see so many things happening tomorrow and this test match is heading towards a draw.

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Quote from: Haunebu on July 19, 2020, 10:42:08 AM

If someone here bet on a draw, they are most probably lucky since I never expected West Indies to fight back strongly even though rain helped them in a big way.

The only result from a situation like this is a draw, rain saved the West Indies from a possible defeat and with four sessions to go England will look to score some quick runs in the morning and then try to put pressure on the West Indies with a target of around 250 runs and if that is the case then we will see an interesting match whether West Indies will go for the win or go for the draw.

Now match is enter in very interesting stage currently England is leading by 219 runs and tomorrow we will have nearly 100 overs if England able to have 85 to 100 runs in 15 to 17 overs then they will attack on West Indies for next 80 overs and this could be really fun to watch how West Indies react and able to save this test.

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Quote from: Haunebu on July 19, 2020, 10:42:08 AM

If someone here bet on a draw, they are most probably lucky since I never expected West Indies to fight back strongly even though rain helped them in a big way.

The only result from a situation like this is a draw, rain saved the West Indies from a possible defeat and with four sessions to go England will look to score some quick runs in the morning and then try to put pressure on the West Indies with a target of around 250 runs and if that is the case then we will see an interesting match whether West Indies will go for the win or go for the draw.

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Quote from: eaLiTy on July 19, 2020, 09:33:31 AM

Stokes finally broke the partnership as he took the wicket of Brathwaite. Still they have some batting line up to come to the crease and if they can bowl out West Indies for 300 runs England will come out to bat to put some quick runs on the board and do they have the time to bowl out West Indies again Undecided

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Didn't expect Brathwaite to fall so cheaply. Stokes once again provides the breakthrough when required.

Chances of England winning are very low even if they take quick wickets at this point since Brooks and Chase have settled in nicely and I don't think they will fall cheaply. On top of this, it could rain again causing even more interference.

If someone here bet on a draw, they are most probably lucky since I never expected West Indies to fight back strongly even though rain helped them in a big way.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on July 19, 2020, 07:01:04 AM

117/2 now, and trailing by 352 runs. They still need to try really hard to avoid the follow on. I am of the opinion that if England can take some quick wickets today, then they will be having a realistic chance of a victory. 69 overs remain for today, and it is very much possible for the English bowlers to get them all out. Anyway for now Kraigg Brathwaite seems to have dug in.

Even the England captain will not have the confidence that they will win the match as the West Indies is just trailing by 270 runs and Kraigg Brathwaite and Shamarh Brooks is building a good partnership and they will miss the presence of James Anderson and Jofra Archer in tough situation like these and the England will now think about winning combinations rather than experimenting with the team combination too much.

Edit: Stokes finally broke the partnership as he took the wicket of Brathwaite. Still they have some batting line up to come to the crease and if they can bowl out West Indies for 300 runs England will come out to bat to put some quick runs on the board and do they have the time to bowl out West Indies again Undecided

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WI are 81/2 and trail by 388. England is running out of time if they want to win it they will have to pick up couple of quick wickets here so that they can put pressure on lower middle order and wrap up the WI innings quickly. But if WI can play our todays entire day then the chances of draw is likely in the match.

The score is 107/2/ and the match is already heading towards a draw. West Indies unexpectedly showed good batting performance now like in the first test match.
Everyone thought that they might collapse in their batting, but so far they are showing good display of nerves and skills.

117/2 now, and trailing by 352 runs. They still need to try really hard to avoid the follow on. I am of the opinion that if England can take some quick wickets today, then they will be having a realistic chance of a victory. 69 overs remain for today, and it is very much possible for the English bowlers to get them all out. Anyway for now Kraigg Brathwaite seems to have dug in.

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WI are 81/2 and trail by 388. England is running out of time if they want to win it they will have to pick up couple of quick wickets here so that they can put pressure on lower middle order and wrap up the WI innings quickly. But if WI can play our todays entire day then the chances of draw is likely in the match.

The score is 107/2/ and the match is already heading towards a draw. West Indies unexpectedly showed good batting performance now like in the first test match.
Everyone thought that they might collapse in their batting, but so far they are showing good display of nerves and skills.

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Btw, I dont know what came over the WI batsmen, 13 runs of Woakes and now 17 of Board. Only 203 runs more to avoid a follow-on.

Never expected Joseph to play this well though he just got out. Nevertheless, he played really well like a top order batsman. West Indies could actually drag this to a draw as long as they continue playing in this manner.

Am expecting Stokes to bowl better than other bowlers here though picking up 19 wickets for a win is a tough task unless West Indies throw away their wickets. My bet right now is on a draw thanks to rain interference.

WI although looking safe but wickets can fall quickly too. Kraigg Brathwaite looking good and should bat sensibly for most part of the innings. Apparently the match goings towards a draw but some quick wickets can make match much more interesting.

Is there prediction of any more rain in Manchester for next two days ?

West Indies are looking pretty sturdy with their batting today. No nuisance batting and I think they are pretty much prepared mentally for a draw so that they don't atleast lose this series. I think if they are able to bat the day today the match is pretty much a draw then. Even I am surprised that why Stokes hasn't been bowling so far. I thought he would be bowling in the first few overs. England need him desperately now.

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Bad luck for England and its seems that we are left with only 2 possibility..

- Windies batting well and avoiding follow on, result draw
- England bowling well and getting 19 wickets as quick as possible.

Edit
Game on! around 180 overs left in case of no rain interruption.

Even though the second option looks a bit skeptical. I believe England could have easily done that on any other day against west Indies. But this bowling line up just doesn't adds up to bowl out West Indies Twice.

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Btw, I dont know what came over the WI batsmen, 13 runs of Woakes and now 17 of Board. Only 203 runs more to avoid a follow-on.

Never expected Joseph to play this well though he just got out. Nevertheless, he played really well like a top order batsman. West Indies could actually drag this to a draw as long as they continue playing in this manner.

Am expecting Stokes to bowl better than other bowlers here though picking up 19 wickets for a win is a tough task unless West Indies throw away their wickets. My bet right now is on a draw thanks to rain interference.

WI although looking safe but wickets can fall quickly too. Kraigg Brathwaite looking good and should bat sensibly for most part of the innings. Apparently the match goings towards a draw but some quick wickets can make match much more interesting.

Is there prediction of any more rain in Manchester for next two days ?

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Quote from: akhjob on July 19, 2020, 05:33:29 AM

Btw, I dont know what came over the WI batsmen, 13 runs of Woakes and now 17 of Board. Only 203 runs more to avoid a follow-on.

Never expected Joseph to play this well though he just got out. Nevertheless, he played really well like a top order batsman. West Indies could actually drag this to a draw as long as they continue playing in this manner.

Am expecting Stokes to bowl better than other bowlers here though picking up 19 wickets for a win is a tough task unless West Indies throw away their wickets. My bet right now is on a draw thanks to rain interference.

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Quote from: AB de Royse777 on July 19, 2020, 03:29:54 AM

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Lol. I was alo tempted when I saw the odds on the draw.

Too late to get that odd unless we have one or two sessions to be played and there is a chance for England to win and then rain comes again :-P

I highly doubt such an odd will come by again unless WI are forced to follow-on and is sure to lose the match. I am not gonna bet on whether it is going to rain or not

Btw, I dont know what came over the WI batsmen, 13 runs of Woakes and now 17 of Board. Only 203 runs more to avoid a follow-on.

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Lol. I was alo tempted when I saw the odds on the draw.

Too late to get that odd unless we have one or two sessions to be played and there is a chance for England to win and then rain comes again :-P

So you want history to repeat itself so that we can jump into the bets and opt for an draw with good odds Wink

By the way I am sure that even this happens again we might be too lazy again and miss the opportunity. Roll Eyes

Look like after one day of rain West Indies back in good today both batsman doing very good job and 50 runs partnership in just 11 overs if now good time for place a bet on draw as its not easy for England to have 19 wickets as West Indian batsmen not on defence they are attacking which is very good from them.

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Quote from: AB de Royse777 on July 19, 2020, 03:29:54 AM

Quote from: akhjob on July 19, 2020, 12:33:46 AM

Lol. I was alo tempted when I saw the odds on the draw.

Too late to get that odd unless we have one or two sessions to be played and there is a chance for England to win and then rain comes again :-P

So you want history to repeat itself so that we can jump into the bets and opt for an draw with good odds Wink

By the way I am sure that even this happens again we might be too lazy again and miss the opportunity. Roll Eyes

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Bad luck for England and its seems that we are left with only 2 possibility..

- Windies batting well and avoiding follow on, result draw
- England bowling well and getting 19 wickets as quick as possible.

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Game on! around 180 overs left in case of no rain interruption.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on July 19, 2020, 03:52:19 AM

That is bad news if there is rain then it will jeopardise the match or England can easily bowl out West Indies before they even reach 200. Already they have lost one wicket. Waiting for the match to begin.

I think the way it can be said, on the ground it was not that easy at all. They only lost one wicket so what? WI team batted well in the first match, or they would not win that match.

I think we all are underestimating this WI team even after showing some good bowling and batting performance in the first Test.

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Quote from: ene1980 on July 18, 2020, 06:50:34 PM

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There can still be a result out of this match if the rain stays away because all it takes is for England to take a few quick wickets which then puts the pressure on the WI and as we have seen in the past the WI do crack under pressure. Right now the only team I can seeing winning is England as they can bowl the WI out for say 250 and then bat until they have a 380 run and put the WI into bat and see how they go. I can only see two outcomes here, England win or a drawn match.

The weather is not that promising as the forecast says we might see rainfall in the afternoon and if we see delays like these then there is a possibility that West Indies could draw the match. If England is playing their best bowlers then we might see West Indies crumble under pressure but that is not the case in this match and West Indies could easily defend for 90 overs with 19 wickets remaining.

That is bad news if there is rain then it will jeopardise the match or England can easily bowl out West Indies before they even reach 200. Already they have lost one wicket. Waiting for the match to begin.

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Quote from: JohnBitCo on July 19, 2020, 01:15:45 AM

The odds changes pretty quickly and if we wait a bit, we may not get same attractive odds. I checked the odds at https://www.oddschecker.com/cricket/england-v-west-indies-test-series

Just checked the site. I was not aware of it. Yeah it does changes very fast. I was checking in sportsbet and the odd was worse at that time.

Quote from: akhjob on July 19, 2020, 12:33:46 AM

Lol. I was alo tempted when I saw the odds on the draw.

Too late to get that odd unless we have one or two sessions to be played and there is a chance for England to win and then rain comes again :-P

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