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Quote from: JSRAW on July 16, 2020, 07:34:23 AM

Oh boy, openers were playing carefully and survived the seamers's spell but poor England lost the first wicket just before the lunch and guess what, who provided the breakthrough? Spinner Roston Chase lol.

England : 29/1 - Lunch Break-

Now 29/2 Chase on Hat-Trick miss Root on crease.

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Quote from: JSRAW on July 16, 2020, 04:53:22 AM

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Well well it's a surprise for England. Joe Root is back that's something good. But guess what the bowling lineup looks devastated. Are they getting over-confident again? Or Jofra got ruled out after they rested Anderson? Resting Anderson and mark wood even after losing the first game? 1 bitcoin to anyone who guesses how high are English Selectors? Lol

By the way there is rain going on in England currently toss is delayed and chances are match would be delayed too.

If i have to guess then English bowling line up would be - Broad, Chris Woakes, Ben Stokes and Sam Curran.

Archer has been dropped due to indiscipline -Quarantine Protocol-

Quote from: Indymoney on July 16, 2020, 04:41:55 AM

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they have very few options Broad, Robinson, Curran and Woakes lets see what happen with them in this second test.

Don't know much about Robinson so Woakes looks good bet to me.

Why does English bowling line up still looks so sturdy with two major bowlers out. I think it's ability of Ben stokes to act as a full time bowling plus batting all rounder that makes the line up so good.
I heard Archer traveled his way back home between the tests which is violation of the quarantine protocol. now he will undergo a 5 day isolation and will have to under go covid-19 test twice. Well isn't it a joke? Considering that symptoms can come after 5 days. So when he plays the third match people playing alongside would still be at a risk. Isn't it?

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Oh boy, openers were playing carefully and survived the seamers's spell but poor England lost the first wicket just before the lunch and guess what, who provided the breakthrough? Spinner Roston Chase lol.

England : 29/1 - Lunch Break-

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on July 16, 2020, 05:08:39 AM

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Edit: We are going to lost first session of second test.

The eternal curse of international cricket, rain interruption has stuck again. With climate change getting worse with every passing year, we can expect rain to play spoilsport a lot more frequently. And despite this, we have people talking about 4-day tests. Anyway, I am glad that Archer was kicked out of the squad. Always believed that he was one of the most over-rated players.

Good News after lost of 90 minutes we are back and West Indies won toss elected to field England is going with Curran, Woakes and Broad West Indies without any change after 4 overs England 8/0.

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Quote from: Indymoney on July 16, 2020, 04:41:55 AM

Edit: We are going to lost first session of second test.

The eternal curse of international cricket, rain interruption has stuck again. With climate change getting worse with every passing year, we can expect rain to play spoilsport a lot more frequently. And despite this, we have people talking about 4-day tests. Anyway, I am glad that Archer was kicked out of the squad. Always believed that he was one of the most over-rated players.

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Quote from: teosanru on July 16, 2020, 04:39:54 AM

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Well well it's a surprise for England. Joe Root is back that's something good. But guess what the bowling lineup looks devastated. Are they getting over-confident again? Or Jofra got ruled out after they rested Anderson? Resting Anderson and mark wood even after losing the first game? 1 bitcoin to anyone who guesses how high are English Selectors? Lol

By the way there is rain going on in England currently toss is delayed and chances are match would be delayed too.

If i have to guess then English bowling line up would be - Broad, Chris Woakes, Ben Stokes and Sam Curran.

Archer has been dropped due to indiscipline -Quarantine Protocol-

Quote from: Indymoney on July 16, 2020, 04:41:55 AM

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they have very few options Broad, Robinson, Curran and Woakes lets see what happen with them in this second test.

Don't know much about Robinson so Woakes looks good bet to me.

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Quote from: JSRAW on July 15, 2020, 07:22:51 PM

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England announces team for second test and we have three changes Denly out and Anderson and Wood rested Sam Curran and uncapped Ollie Robinson in https://www.bbc.com/sport/cricket/53419675

Sam Curran selection in the squad makes sense as he can bat as well down the order but why on earth they are excluding Anderson? Not serious enough to win the series? Guess they think their batting line-up is weak.

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Latest casualty Archer dropped for Old Trafford Test after protocol breach

Its mean Englands problems not going to end they are going to face some more in second test as Anderson and Wood already out now Archer right now they have very few options Broad, Robinson, Curran and Woakes lets see what happen with them in this second test.

Edit: We are going to lost first session of second test.

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Quote from: JSRAW on July 15, 2020, 07:22:51 PM

Quote from: Indymoney on July 15, 2020, 02:18:50 PM

England announces team for second test and we have three changes Denly out and Anderson and Wood rested Sam Curran and uncapped Ollie Robinson in https://www.bbc.com/sport/cricket/53419675

Sam Curran selection in the squad makes sense as he can bat as well down the order but why on earth they are excluding Anderson? Not serious enough to win the series? Guess they think their batting line-up is weak.

Edit

Latest casualty Archer dropped for Old Trafford Test after protocol breach

Well well it's a surprise for England. Joe Root is back that's something good. But guess what the bowling lineup looks devastated. Are they getting over-confident again? Or Jofra got ruled out after they rested Anderson? Resting Anderson and mark wood even after losing the first game? 1 bitcoin to anyone who guesses how high are English Selectors? Lol

By the way there is rain going on in England currently toss is delayed and chances are match would be delayed too.

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Quote from: Indymoney on July 15, 2020, 02:18:50 PM

England announces team for second test and we have three changes Denly out and Anderson and Wood rested Sam Curran and uncapped Ollie Robinson in https://www.bbc.com/sport/cricket/53419675

What about the West Indies team ? Do they also have some changes in their team. I think West Indies team management and captain should not change the winning combination. England team is looking on a back foot and defensive when we see these changes.

West indies can't change the squad. They are the touring team. Talking about top 11 i believe it would remain same

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Quote from: Indymoney on July 15, 2020, 02:18:50 PM

England announces team for second test and we have three changes Denly out and Anderson and Wood rested Sam Curran and uncapped Ollie Robinson in https://www.bbc.com/sport/cricket/53419675

Sam Curran selection in the squad makes sense as he can bat as well down the order but why on earth they are excluding Anderson? Not serious enough to win the series? Guess they think their batting line-up is weak.

Edit

Latest casualty Archer dropped for Old Trafford Test after protocol breach

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Quote from: Indymoney on July 15, 2020, 03:34:00 PM

I am also really surprised what the hell these selecters doing its wired decsion and surely they are looking for down in this series as West Indies is already and confedence level is also high so this can give them some more good advantage as bringing Broad and giving rest to Anderson as they already have very long rest.

Ben Stokes needs to get more experience as a leader and he needs to pick the best team rather than playing around with the squad, in the first test the fielding positions were not that great and there were many dropped catches and misses in the field and their batsman failed and even though Joe Root is back in the team he is not able to pick the best team which is confusing on who gets to select the team.

Quote from: Indymoney on July 15, 2020, 04:19:45 PM

No they have no changes they are going with same team but last 11 will announced just before toss most chances they will go with same 11 as they done good job.

West Indies might retain the same team but one of the players had an injury in the last match and may be that will be the only change.

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Quote from: Indymoney on July 15, 2020, 02:18:50 PM

England announces team for second test and we have three changes Denly out and Anderson and Wood rested Sam Curran and uncapped Ollie Robinson in https://www.bbc.com/sport/cricket/53419675

What about the West Indies team ? Do they also have some changes in their team. I think West Indies team management and captain should not change the winning combination. England team is looking on a back foot and defensive when we see these changes.

No they have no changes they are going with same team but last 11 will announced just before toss most chances they will go with same 11 as they done good job.

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Quote from: Indymoney on July 15, 2020, 02:18:50 PM

England announces team for second test and we have three changes Denly out and Anderson and Wood rested Sam Curran and uncapped Ollie Robinson in https://www.bbc.com/sport/cricket/53419675

What about the West Indies team ? Do they also have some changes in their team. I think West Indies team management and captain should not change the winning combination. England team is looking on a back foot and defensive when we see these changes.

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England announces team for second test and we have three changes Denly out and Anderson and Wood rested Sam Curran and uncapped Ollie Robinson in

They have rested Anderson when they resumed cricket after 4 months Roll Eyes

, the selectors are really stupid if they really did that as the best bowling partnership is Stuart Broad and James Anderson and if they still want to experiment then i expect West Indies to win again and then they will have right thinking as too much experiment will not help the team.

I am also really surprised what the hell these selecters doing its wired decsion and surely they are looking for down in this series as West Indies is already and confedence level is also high so this can give them some more good advantage as bringing Broad and giving rest to Anderson as they already have very long rest.

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Quote from: Indymoney on July 15, 2020, 02:18:50 PM

England announces team for second test and we have three changes Denly out and Anderson and Wood rested Sam Curran and uncapped Ollie Robinson in

They have rested Anderson when they resumed cricket after 4 months Roll Eyes

, the selectors are really stupid if they really did that as the best bowling partnership is Stuart Broad and James Anderson and if they still want to experiment then i expect West Indies to win again and then they will have right thinking as too much experiment will not help the team.

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England announces team for second test and we have three changes Denly out and Anderson and Wood rested Sam Curran and uncapped Ollie Robinson in https://www.bbc.com/sport/cricket/53419675

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Quote from: vella85 on July 12, 2020, 06:45:53 PM

I'm very happy right now as I won my bet on the WI winning the first test match which I posted last week before the match started. I really thought that the match was even due to the fact that either team hasn't played in a while so I thought it was even as there was no recent form to go off. Also the players need to get used to playing again and find form which is why I also thought that either team could win and so I went with the value bet. Lets also not forget that the WI have played well against England recently. Anyway this now sets up the series to see if England can fight back and win the second test.

West Indies were not the favorites before the start of the match and hence you risked to bet on WI and it paid off in the end.
The next test match is going to start tomorrow so will you still bet on West Indies ? I think it is difficult for them to win 2 in a row ? What do you think about it ?

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Quote from: JSRAW on July 14, 2020, 12:06:24 AM

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The English team intentionally left out Broad since they wanted to give more opportunities to new bowlers like Archer etc and West Indies is not great in tests usually which is why his omission completely makes sense.

I don't think they will include Broad just because they lost the 1st test. Also, Root is another intentional omission for the same reasons. They never expected West Indies to win so convincingly in the 1st test itself. I am not expecting any major changes in the squad.

And i am sure they are regretting this decision. Imagine England playing Test against Australia or India and leaving their premier bowler who happens to take 450+ wickets in the Test format, will never happen btw. But yeah what could go wrong against WI so leave broad out lol

Not major change but only 2, Broad and Root.

If they replace Wood with Broad, it would be good but I too think that they won't bring Broad for the second test as he was left out intentionally for reasons unknown. However, Joe Root is definitely going to replace Denly, that's for sure.

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Quote from: JSRAW on July 14, 2020, 08:34:07 AM

Everyone was making noise after his exclusion (Starc), including you Cheesy

. Australia follow rotation policy way too seriously so it might be justifiable act but as far as i remember England never does that with the fast bowlers, Batsmen and spinners yeah they do that all the time.

I was making noise because I felt that the selectors are not giving preference to merit. What can be the justification for including bowlers such as James Pattinson and Josh Hazlewood instead of Mitchell Starc? And I don't think that the exclusion of Starc back then had anything to do with bowler rotation. Because he was left out of the playing XI for 4 matches consecutively.

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Quote from: teosanru on July 12, 2020, 11:56:36 PM

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I think england was still with the best bowling lineup yes their batting lineup looked a bit novice but you have to praise west Indies as to how good they batted. Even west indies team Isn't a much experienced team so all on all i think west indies did play a pretty nice game. The way holder bowled is magnificent and how blackwood Batted in pressure conditions it was great too.

If you are dropping chances then there is no way England is going to win, the score was not that big to chance and they dropped many catches in the final innings and run out chances and if they are not able to take those opportunities then there is no way they are going to win. Blackwood was the difference between an England win and West Indies and England dropped two catches when he was around 20 runs and a run out chance and the luck was in his side and West Indies took that opportunity with both hands.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on July 14, 2020, 08:17:14 AM

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Australia did something similar during the Ashes. They left out their best bowler (Mitchell Starc) for the first few matches. Obviously he doesn't have as many test wickets as Broad or Anderson, but I regard him as the best Australian bowler out there. Sometimes these teams have a tendency to give chances to younger players, even if that means leaving out some of the legends.

Everyone was making noise after his exclusion (Starc), including you Cheesy

. Australia follow rotation policy way too seriously so it might be justifiable act but as far as i remember England never does that with the fast bowlers, Batsmen and spinners yeah they do that all the time.

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