Topic: Tezos discussion - page 102. (Read 215835 times)

if they really can provide what´s promised, it would really dominate the market

Tezos is superior to existing smart contracts, in terms of nex gen platforms  scalability will be one of the major criteria

Many people in the crypto world think because of crypto we don't need a government..
Not true your country NEEDS a government for the people by the people..

See many don't like the idea of government telling you what to do?..
BUT really it's the people need to tell governments how they want to live REMEMBER you pay their wages it comes from all the taxes collected from everyone else work they done then you pay the public servants out of your work collected together ..

BUT we have problems they get in and think they are the leaders and they deserve more than you
even though you payed them a good living in the first place they still want more..

Now imagine no government and crypto was the currency will everyone club together in the crypto world and pay for a nice new motorway roads hospitals police army ?..

Now if you answer no then how will you do business with no railways built no roads no police to protect the goods going to and fro?..

SO i am afraid we NEED GOVERNMENTS to run our live even though we don't like somethings they do..

Now the best way with TEZOS is not to make 1 entity have the final vote the tezos masses have the say that way no complaints ..

With country governments you have your say but they don't put it into practice because they want a better life for themselves FACT..

Look at all leaders do an audit on the wages they earned while serving in office i bet they own way more than what they got paid << ..

Now with tezos lets have some fun and see how this plays out ..
I will enjoy voting for something else to be added OR taken away 

hoping i win to be rewarded for my right choice ..
I might not win but that's democracy but if something is sounds good to add then most will vote it in anyways..

Just lets say this the young get to discuss many things that will help the brains grow strong with knowledge ALL GOOD..

I said to my child i don't care what you do but just try and give it your best go at what ever you do in life           AT LEAST TRY..  If it fails we tried BUT i want to see TRY

I mean look at GEVERS him he couldn't do anything except TRY and scam everyone..

YOU gevers can TRY and rob the monies but you will fail and be in jail..

It will be fun adding new things as time goes on ..
THINGS will pop up that was not foreseen but can be corrected  ..

JUST MAKE SURE that one thing before you release the token it's a secure token main thing
is no one gets hacked ..

Then all the rest will come with time and many talks about the best action to take tezos to the next level ..

  Sorry i had to have a rant because this could be so exciting with the many ideas just by the governance alone ..

It makes it so much better knowing the masses have the say so not just the whales..

Are the whales going to pay everyone to make a vote to benefit the whales I DON'T THINK SO..
So no whale can influence one person like a POLITICIAN  ..

He would have to pay every tezos holder
So this is why we must have some governance on the blockchain ..

NO BRIBES..

If people like the idea of people getting scammed then the crypto world is dead ..
Just the same as the PYRAMID SCHEME <..

If you want to be taken seriously then protection is needed ..

How could you do it?..

Imagine putting peoples scam cases on your TEZOS lost and stolen website..

Then what could happen is everyone reads the cases on the TEZOS lost and stolen website and everyone who holds the tezos can vote on if he or she has been scammed MANY easy to prove many wont be
then what happens you have a six month countdown and if a certain amount vote on your case
to say yes you been scammed or no you haven't been scammed ..

It's not 1 entity who as the governance it's always the Tezos holders the community..

Now some how needs a tracker ..
Remember people said bitcoin is safe you can track your transactions which is good for people trying to scam your monies you can trck the bitcoin and get it back or arrest them from the IP ADDRESS
but is this a fact OR a scam just like the PYRAMID SCHEME ?..

Nano Ledger Wallet HACKED 2018 ?!?!?!? - YouTube
Video for Nano ledger getting hacked▶ 5:59
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfxa83cgFOo
1 day ago - Uploaded by Motorcycles Vancouver
Is the Nano Ledger S or other hardware wallets for storing Bitcoin and other Crypto coins really safe ?!? After


NOW TEZOS   what will happen if people get hacked do you do something or say arr well your own fault?

Is it your own fault if the technology that the ICO holders never created gets hacked or the people who created the technology to get hacked?..

I mean if you buy a brand new car and it blows up 2 weeks later just remember to blame yourself ..

Most people go on about crypto will wipe out the bankers because those bankers are bad?..

Now imagine you sold something online then put your monies in a bank account ..
2 weeks later you walk in the bank or try spend some from your bank account by card and no money in the bank all gone..

NOW would you say are well it's all lost bad luck on my behalf OR would you walk in the bank and demand your monies?..

SO how do you compete with the banks ? 
if you prove it was their technology that was to blame for your monies going missing then you get all your monies back by law ..

So now i haven't lost my home food for the week and what not..
NOW if you want everyone to take you serious in the mainstream then you got to make sure peoples
monies will be safe ..

If i have a cake and someone just comes up and takes it it's theft YES just for a cake..
Now if someone gets scammed with 1000s that's worse than some fucker robbing my cake ..

Yes i could of bought 100 thousand cakes with what some people loose ..

Now ETH and many other tokens don't care if you loose monies SO if you don't care then your not safe
to deal with FACT..

do you think people will risk a million dollar insurance company on ETH?
Got to be crazy..

Now why i brought this up because of these post..

urbard 4 points 10 hours ago
Without commenting specifically on this matter, it's a good opportunity to link to this excellent Twitter exchange:

https://twitter.com/ChrisLundkvist/status/964159702107148288

I think it's critical to develop strong cultural norms around what falls under the scope of governance and what doesn't. I personally don't think blockchain governance should try to act as a courtroom, and such norms should guard against that slippery slope.

@ChrisLundkvist
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More Christian Lundkvist Retweeted Yoichi Hirai
Only now getting up to speed on the  suggestion of creating a formal ERP (Ethereum Recovery Proposal) procedure for recovering ETH lost to mistakes, bugs etc. IMO going down this path would be very dangerous. Yoichi resigned as an EIP editor because of the legal uncertainty


ALSO NANO LEDGERS   been getting HACKED

tezos is very interesting project.how much if we could invest in here?ill keep closer to it

nothing specified yet. I would guess you will do good with your invested amount

Mainnet will leave when. I invested 2 BTC. Is it my hope now?

One thing i want is if you prove you been scammed by a hacker it gets traced and you get your token back..

That way no one will be robbed 100% safe ..
I have never lost trading just some fucker hacked accounts or wallets ..

And they was from south africa GEVERS ..
Wont happen again ..They even hacked my long suppose to be safe eth priv key

ETH as so many cut off tokens it's a safe with a hole in the back ..

get ICO eth token called ball bag token you put your ball bags in a wallet and someone comes along and steals your ball bags ..

Then they sell your ball bags for BTC or eth original leaving you with no ball bags 

Arthur on protocol governance (youtu.be)
submitted 1 day ago by luzamarino  11 commentssharesavehidereport

Now in the video you have very smart young chaps  ..
BUT have no clue on why governance is needed OR why hard forks are bad..

The governance is mostly so no hard forks can be done..
Very important NO HARD FORKS..

See in video they don't think a hard fork is that much of a problem ..It is a PROBLEM a bad one..

If everyone uses a token then a hard fork it upsets the people just starting out plus should i stay with this technology or swap it or should i change then one day swap it back..

Now for those who hold many of that token the get issued with more forked tokens BUT the new starters
don't ..

Now what happens if i start out in a business and i use eth i learn all the technology about eth then
everyone decides Now instead of using eth we will use the eth classic instead .

Now all the ones with big eth wallets get more eth classic in the forks in the wallets for free the new starters get nothing ..

Now what happens if one whale decides to sell all his big bag of eth classic because he thinks i have
millions of eth and the hard fork give me loads of free eth classic so i will bail all my eth classic out
and make millions of dollars for free while i still keep my eth original and made millions for free..

Now what happens to my business if i just started out does all my hard work get split in half or crash?.

Also in business it's not good for things to be half price one day and double the next day ..
With forks you create many uncertainties in business world BUT great for TRADERS ..

The up and down in crypto is a traders dream ..
Not for a company who buys and sells things insurance and the likes to sell something a fork is bad..
traders gain only on uncertainty ..

Now with the tezos governance everyone get to decide what technology to add or not to add so tezos
can always stay as TEZOS then no one can change anything like a whale bailing out for one hard fork or another ..

Like having a bank full of dollars then next day dollars are no good everyone switched to dongle dollars  ..
So now you change to dongle dollars then next day they switch to pringle dollars so you switch again..

Now with all the switches it's very very bad for businesses to learn the tech in time then have all your employers switch again BUT the WHALES don't care they get FREE hard fork tokens then sell them
BUT have they sold the wrong tech and the hard fork is better?..

All uncertainty bad for business good for traders..
Now trading is about fucking each other over  ..

Business is about creating jobs new technology to make peoples lives better to give you a sense of doing something instead of no work around and being bored..

If no businesses with jobs no monies to trade..

SO   is Tezos a traders token or both ?   a traders token and a business token all rolled into 1 ..

Then governance is so much needed ..
It stops the whales taking control and they be the whales in the hard forks as well ..
REMEMBER if your a whale in ETH BTC  and it hard forkd ylou become the whale in the hard fork token

what ever you own in the original token you get for free in the hard fork..

So the WHALES          hold your bollocks 

NOW CRYPTO was all about not letting the elite hold us all to ransom ?

WHAT IS AN ELITE?

A POOR PERSON ..SOMEONE WHO IS FUCKING STINKING RICH ..

So at least with TEZOS the whales don't hold no say so and plus they don't get even more from an
hard fork..
Everyone who holds tezos in a tezos wallet has a right ..

I be back to explain many ways we can do this so no one gets scammed out of monies..

I want it to be the safest token ever..
I want many things to make this way way better than anything out there

GOVERNANCE is what is needed it sorts so many problems out and 1 is no hard fork..

See those young smart chaps have not lived long enough to know about many things YET..
Good coders but life knowledge you need to have lived a bit..

Also many on here are asking for updates       ARE YOU ALL CABBAGES

Look on REDDIT TWITTER     IDIOTS 

FastnBold 0 points 4 hours ago .. From reddit..

Nope I dont think so. This is very bad for tezos and it means everyone can be held liable due to voting mechanism or at least voters who voted in favor of the decision made for protocol upgrade in any legal case. <<<
I would worry have you tried to scam people?..
See we in the UK love new technology and welcome it BUT is this technology going to come out and be real OR was the intention to scam people out of monies?..

Also the SEC never said they was investigating tezos they said we cannot give information on anyone who is getting investigated BUT said who said Tezos is getting investigated ..

TEZOS might not even be getting investigated at all ..
They will not tell you who is getting investigated BUT will be WATCHING if any scams or TAX fraud been committed by any persons ..

See if it's about CRYPTO then everyone who uses or has used BITCOIN would be in JAIL..

The law is about have you scammed people out of monies ..
even tax fraud is scamming monies out of peoples ..

TAX is everyone in your countries monies ..

Now GEVERS is the only SCAMMER i see

Thank you all for the updates - really hope Tezos gets launched eventually, it’s such a promising project!

It seems T2 Foundation and Tezos team have good relation to me and they're getting together. I see a good sinergy that lead them to launch soon.

what's the present status?

I posted a copy of it in this thread.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.29247497

Have you guys seen the article that Johann Gevers tried to upload about "Moving Tezos Forward"? Link here: https://medium.com/p/moving-tezos-forward-85d1de2f9bd4

He removed it shorty after. I never got the chance to read what he wrote, but i'm very interested. Does anyone have a copy of the (removed) article?

Maybe thanks in advance.

What do you think about T2 foundation? Can this fund launch Tezos Network? Or now patently on 100% what Tezos SCAM?

SEC Refuses Request For Information On Disputed Tezos... | News ...
https://cointelegraph.com/.../sec-refuses-request-for-information-on-disputed-tezos-ico...
2 days ago - SEC Refuses Request For Information On Disputed Tezos ICO In Ongoing Lawsuit. ... The U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) declined to provide information on Blockchain project Tezos requested by attorney David Silver via the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA), Reuters ..

FBI    it could be the RUSSIANS ..

Yes FBI do something useful get me GEVERS the SERIAL SCAMMER
And i will forgive you over CLINTONS ..

1 billion dollar possible fraud

CNN your bullshit news station get some investigators to see if the GEVERS is a cyber crime dude..
He could be into all sorts of cyber crimes ..SPYING and everything

GET ME THE GEVERS

I want every penny spent on DEVELOPMENT and some hardware ..
Also with that money should have 4 building owned by TEZOS freshly built in 4 different parts of the world so the young can go and study TEZOS ECO SYSTEM ..

20 million each building ..80 MILLION for the young to go to and study all TEZOS and more
science the lot..

GEVERS has no dreams he dreams of STEALING THE MONIES and that's it..

I WANT GEVERS ..FBI CIA   You owe me this you are dealing with a serial cyber scammer..

Why do you owe me this you say?..
For you being TURDS in the past