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Prayers out to Tua. For selfish reasons this had so many negative effects for me fantasy football wise. I own Tua in our league (and others). Have Waddle in another league. The lack of the Dolphins pass attack meant less throwing for Burrow (whom I have in our league), which then means less love for Chase (whom I have in another league) etc etc.  It also ruined what was to be an epic game.

That said, safety is the number one priority here and by far.  The Dolphins claim that Tua absolutely did not have a concussion last game. So it’ll be very interesting to see how this plays out.

As someone who played football in to high school I can tell you that if I ever have a son, he will not be allowed to play. I always wonder how many concussions I had but never knew it. That Dr who discovered CTE also stated if you played something like just 3 years of tackle football your risk of suicide goes up by like 40% (or something crazy high like that).  It is in my opinion that tackle football should be banned until college. It’s just too dangerous (especially for developing brains). The issues we know of CTE injuries are just the high profiles ones that have come out/been exposed. God only knows how many lives in total CTE has destroyed (demaryius thomas and Vincent Jackson being two of the most recent high profile heartbreaking incidents).

I’m all for tackle football, it’s my favorite sport by far, but not until those playing fully understand the potential implications of it.  

Hopefully one day we will learn how to detect it before death. Like guys such as Antonio Brown, it’s quite obvious he has a serious case but we can’t say for sure until he dies.

Not much of a religious person, but prayers to Tua 🙏
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Hope everything with Tua is okay going forward, it was really unfortunate play. The Dolphins lineman literally let go of his guy with Tua having so much space/time to throw, it was bad. Does anyone remember last season when Parham knocked his head unconscious and arms locked...scary stuff.

I watched Adam Schefter on Get Up this morning talking about the NFL concussion protocols and he basically said if a player exibits gross motor instability, what we saw with Tua on Sunday, he should not have been allowed to return to the game. It does not matter if he had concussion or not, it could be a spine aka back injury as well.
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However, as fans, do we want the NFL to change the game and create new rules on tackles? I do not like to watch flag football with helmets heheheheheh.

This is their conundrum, also New Englands TE murderer Hernandez was purported to be suffering from Brain trauma.

Aaron Hernandez suffered from most severe CTE ever found

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/aaron-hernandez-suffered-from-most-severe-cte-ever-found-in-a-person-his-age/2017/11/09/fa7cd204-c57b-11e7-afe9-4f60b5a6c4a0_story.html
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However, as fans, do we want the NFL to change the game and create new rules on tackles? I do not like to watch flag football with helmets heheheheheh.

This is a great point, and I appreciate the war-like aspect for Good Ol American Football, but I wouldn't mind them tightening up the concussion protocol... the main problem is the doctors and other professionals hired to make those calls are probably incentivized to say, "Nah, he's fine, leave him in."
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Sad... Watching it happen live was very sad... to see his fingers awkwardly distended after getting thrown to the ground, and then Al Michaels reporting he was told it was a "neurological response to head trauma"... oof. This is terrible and not good for anybody who has a stake in or just enjoys the NFL.

They say that some football players become violent because of some brain damage caused from head trauma. The NFL denied this.

Certainly... I remember what happened to Junior Seau and would classify that as a violent act.

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Seau committed suicide by shooting himself in the chest in 2012 at age 43. Later studies by the National Institutes of Health (NIH) concluded that Seau had chronic traumatic encephalopathy (CTE), a brain disease that has also been found in other deceased former NFL players. It is believed to be caused by repetitive head trauma, and can lead to conditions such as dementia, rage, and depression.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junior_Seau

The most common of violent acts that were done by retired NFL players that were reported were domestic violence and it appears that there is also a correlation between head trauma and depression which might also have caused the violent outbursts.



Ex-NFL Player Zac Stacy was arrested on Nov. 18 and charged with aggravated battery and criminal mischief after a home surveillance video surfaced of him beating his partner, Kristin Evans.

Stacy is not an outlier, though. The NFL has long been plagued with incidents of players abusing their spouses or children. Since 2000, 134 players have been arrested for domestic violence and 15 for crimes relating to sexual assault, battery or solicitation, comprising 13% of all NFL arrests, according to a database by USA Today that tracks NFL arrests.
Intimate partner violence accounts for 15% of all violent crimes in the United States. For NFL players, domestic violence is the highest criminal charge at 55% of total arrests made.


Source https://chargerbulletin.com/the-prevalence-of-domestic-violence-in-the-nfl/



However, as fans, do we want the NFL to change the game and create new rules on tackles? I do not like to watch flag football with helmets heheheheheh.
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Sad... Watching it happen live was very sad... to see his fingers awkwardly distended after getting thrown to the ground, and then Al Michaels reporting he was told it was a "neurological response to head trauma"... oof. This is terrible and not good for anybody who has a stake in or just enjoys the NFL.

They say that some football players become violent because of some brain damage caused from head trauma. The NFL denied this.

Certainly... I remember what happened to Junior Seau and would classify that as a violent act.

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Seau committed suicide by shooting himself in the chest in 2012 at age 43. Later studies by the National Institutes of Health (NIH) concluded that Seau had chronic traumatic encephalopathy (CTE), a brain disease that has also been found in other deceased former NFL players. It is believed to be caused by repetitive head trauma, and can lead to conditions such as dementia, rage, and depression.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junior_Seau
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@Hueristic. This is the beginning. There was a movie based on a true story about this with Will Smith. They say that some football players become violent because of some brain damage caused from head trauma. The NFL denied this.



If Tua takes the field tonight, it's a massive step back for #concussion care in the NFL.

If he has a 2nd concussion that destroys his season or career, everyone involved will be sued & should lose their jobs, coaches included. We all saw it, even they must know this isn't right


Source https://mobile.twitter.com/chrisnowinski1/status/1575578179581771776



In any case, if Tua is out for this whole season and this concussion negatively impacts his career. There might only be one choice for the Dolphins hehehe.

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ETA:  That was an ugly hit on Tua, he looked like he was in agony.  Man, I hope the kid is okay, he didn't give a thumbs up while they were carting him out.  That's never a good sign.  He already had a back injury, that body slam could have some lingering and severe consequences.

Gonna be alot of noise this week about not putting him in concussion protocol last week.
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Hell of a game tonight!! 3-0 Miami Dolphins vs Cincy Bengals, I’m pumped (esp after that boring Monday night football game).  Personally I think Cincy wins, but I just have no how they are going to do so, so I went with the money line bet. I don’t know if that’s a smart bet or not, but I could just easily see this being a really close game.

My favorite part of the game tonight is the uniforms. Miami has their normal sweet looking road unis and the Bengals are wearing their all white unis.  Love those!

Good luck to y’all’s FF teams and bets tonight.


Don't forget to start a kicker!  Deja Vu?


ETA:  That was an ugly hit on Tua, he looked like he was in agony.  Man, I hope the kid is okay, he didn't give a thumbs up while they were carting him out.  That's never a good sign.  He already had a back injury, that body slam could have some lingering and severe consequences.
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Hell of a game tonight!! 3-0 Miami Dolphins vs Cincy Bengals, I’m pumped (esp after that boring Monday night football game).  Personally I think Cincy wins, but I just have no how they are going to do so, so I went with the money line bet. I don’t know if that’s a smart bet or not, but I could just easily see this being a really close game.

My favorite part of the game tonight is the uniforms. Miami has their normal sweet looking road unis and the Bengals are wearing their all white unis.  Love those!

Good luck to y’all’s FF teams and bets tonight.
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Hueristic, aren't you supposed to be an underdog  Grin

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Hopefully Yahoo is wrong with its projections, as it usually is.

LOL, Yeah yahoo is notoriously bad but it all depends on who's going to be a last second scratch this week for me. Cheesy

I can't even drop the spare fucking kicker yet!


It appears that I might also bench one of my team's main players. Can anyone guess who he is? Yes, it is the easily injured Christian McCaffrey hehehehe. According to the news, Panthers headcoach Matt Rhule ignored all questions asking about McCaffrey's injury which might imply that it might be more serious than speculated. Hockenson is also questionable because of a foot injury.

Best I can do is offer you Gordon for him. Tongue


Was just traveling home from work out of town and had a good deal of time to listen to some sports radio and one of the big things they came up was just how banged up the Chargers are. The big one for the entire offense is one of thier starting O-Lineman being out right now. I can’t remember exactly which position he plays but I know he’s one of their top 5 best players, and obviously that hurts the whole offense.  I’ve got Herbert in another league so obviously a bit worried. I think offense will bounce back, I wouldn’t give up hope in Ekeler yet, but yeah nice matchup this week with the Texans !

Yeah, chargers in deep shit atm, they are beat to shit on both sides with Bosa out for the season as well.
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It appears that I might also bench one of my team's main players. Can anyone guess who he is? Yes, it is the easily injured Christian McCaffrey hehehehe. According to the news, Panthers headcoach Matt Rhule ignored all questions asking about McCaffrey's injury which might imply that it might be more serious than speculated. Hockenson is also questionable because of a foot injury.
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Dolphins remain unbeaten, yet another impressive win! I'm not sure why officials allowed Tua to continue after that play at the end of the first half, aren't there concussion protocols in place? He clearly looked knocked out, if you haven't seen the video:
I watched that game and honestly I could not believe my eyes, the Bills should have won that game easily and yet they committed so many mistakes the Dolphins somehow found a way to win, now about Tua, I really hope there is an investigation because it is obvious this was not a back problem and the Dolphins are trying to cover it up.


W0w, Great week guys!

Congrats Southpark, we both really needed this win!

BBC, your really shining congrats as well!

Hopefully we can keep it close without anyone running away this season.
We really needed it, going 0-3 would have been a disaster for any of us, and bbc.reporter is really crushing the league at the moment with Lamar playing so well, however I will admit that it worries me as he is obviously trying to show his value and get a better contract, but if he is not careful this could result in an injury.




Not looking good for any of us who have Chargers players in their squads, especially the left tackle going down. Herbert is literally a hit or two from not playing at all. I wish he didn't play on Sunday. I mean just look at all the injuries they have:


Yeah, I benched Connors this week and now I'm benching Ekeler  (couldn't talk myself into benching both this week) on my other team. At least I have Gordon sitting on the bench.
I was planning on benching Ekeler on week 4 but the LAC are facing Houston, if they cannot run the ball on Houston of all teams then I will be forced to bench Ekeler for some time, fortunately for me I went RB heavy during the draft or right now I will be in deep trouble with my first round pick not being as productive as I thought he would be.

Was just traveling home from work out of town and had a good deal of time to listen to some sports radio and one of the big things they came up was just how banged up the Chargers are. The big one for the entire offense is one of thier starting O-Lineman being out right now. I can’t remember exactly which position he plays but I know he’s one of their top 5 best players, and obviously that hurts the whole offense.  I’ve got Herbert in another league so obviously a bit worried. I think offense will bounce back, I wouldn’t give up hope in Ekeler yet, but yeah nice matchup this week with the Texans !
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Hueristic, aren't you supposed to be an underdog  Grin

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Hopefully Yahoo is wrong with its projections, as it usually is.
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I was planning on benching Ekeler on week 4 but the LAC are facing Houston, if they cannot run the ball on Houston of all teams then I will be forced to bench Ekeler for some time, fortunately for me I went RB heavy during the draft or right now I will be in deep trouble with my first round pick not being as productive as I thought he would be.

Ohh shit didn't notice that, guess he gets a reprieve for another week! Cheesy
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Dolphins remain unbeaten, yet another impressive win! I'm not sure why officials allowed Tua to continue after that play at the end of the first half, aren't there concussion protocols in place? He clearly looked knocked out, if you haven't seen the video:
I watched that game and honestly I could not believe my eyes, the Bills should have won that game easily and yet they committed so many mistakes the Dolphins somehow found a way to win, now about Tua, I really hope there is an investigation because it is obvious this was not a back problem and the Dolphins are trying to cover it up.


W0w, Great week guys!

Congrats Southpark, we both really needed this win!

BBC, your really shining congrats as well!

Hopefully we can keep it close without anyone running away this season.
We really needed it, going 0-3 would have been a disaster for any of us, and bbc.reporter is really crushing the league at the moment with Lamar playing so well, however I will admit that it worries me as he is obviously trying to show his value and get a better contract, but if he is not careful this could result in an injury.




Not looking good for any of us who have Chargers players in their squads, especially the left tackle going down. Herbert is literally a hit or two from not playing at all. I wish he didn't play on Sunday. I mean just look at all the injuries they have:


Yeah, I benched Connors this week and now I'm benching Ekeler  (couldn't talk myself into benching both this week) on my other team. At least I have Gordon sitting on the bench.
I was planning on benching Ekeler on week 4 but the LAC are facing Houston, if they cannot run the ball on Houston of all teams then I will be forced to bench Ekeler for some time, fortunately for me I went RB heavy during the draft or right now I will be in deep trouble with my first round pick not being as productive as I thought he would be.
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@DireWolfM14. I am also watching the game and I am presently getting worried already hehehe. The Bombay Bengal's projected points is only 3 points away from my total fantasy points for week 3. It is very clear that another touchdown from Saquon or Elliot will give him the win for this week.

Also, if this goes to overtime, I will lose week 3.
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I need three sacks and a turnover from the Cowboys' defense tonight and also keep the Giants away from scoring more than 27pts.

Jones has 1x fumble and an interception in those first two games, has also been sacked 8 times....just 5 points, pretty pleaaase! Let's go Big D!  Cheesy
You should have asked for a blocked field goal.

Lol, don't ask and ye shall receive anyway.

Watching the game with Payton and Eli is funny, they make it hard not to root for the Giants.  Even if it's mostly rooting against the Cowboys.

That offensive pass interference penalty that drove the Giants back to 3rd and 23 was BS.
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I need three sacks and a turnover from the Cowboys' defense tonight and also keep the Giants away from scoring more than 27pts.

Jones has 1x fumble and an interception in those first two games, has also been sacked 8 times....just 5 points, pretty pleaaase! Let's go Big D!  Cheesy

You should have asked for a blocked field goal.
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I need three sacks and a turnover from the Cowboys' defense tonight and also keep the Giants away from scoring more than 27pts.

Jones has 1x fumble and an interception in those first two games, has also been sacked 8 times....just 5 points, pretty pleaaase! Let's go Big D!  Cheesy



LOL, Kinda thought this would happen so grabbed Philly's D but had to play a Redskins WR due to Keenan screwing me again. Cheesy

Not looking good for any of us who have Chargers players in their squads, especially the left tackle going down. Herbert is literally a hit or two from not playing at all. I wish he didn't play on Sunday. I mean just look at all the injuries they have:

source: https://twitter.com/danielrpopper/status/1574446756909023236
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So to recap for #Chargers...

• QB: fractured rib cartilage
• All-Pro center: knee injury
• All-Pro LT likely to miss season with torn biceps
• No. 1 receiver has strained hamstring
• Top pass rusher has groin injury
• Top CB not responding as expected from ankle surgery

PS. Russ is perma cooking on my bench, Broncos offense is such a mess right now. I'm either streaming QBs the rest of the season or looking for a trade or something...idk

Giant fan here so I hope none of that happens but I'm also a realist so you shoukd see some of those happen.  Fumble recovery probably over an interception but the Dallas d is good enough to get in on the giants line which struggles at times pass protecting.  It's prime time and at giant stadium though so who knows what happens
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