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Topic: The Barry Silbert segwit2x agreement with >80% miner support. - page 16. (Read 120014 times)

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legendary
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Phhhh - breaking over 8 year old Satoshi's consensus ...

 Cry
legendary
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Hold on, gotta go throw out my miners in the trash  Undecided
Or you could switch them over to coins that are profitable.  Cool

Well it's likely that some SHA-256 coin will remain, so they won't be 100% useless, but like I said I don't think PoW change will happen anytime soon. Worst fate for them would be if they had to mine ChinaCoin. Poor miners!
copper member
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Clueless!
I just report the news. Don't forget the NYA and 80% of miners have pledged to switch over to btc1. If that happens Jeff Garzik and friends will control bitcoin.

That can easily be prevented by a PoW change and I think we are getting very close to it.  Grin Whatever they do, my UASF node is up and running.

Hold on, gotta go throw out my miners in the trash  Undecided


shame on you recycle for use as doorstops....if you have a lot of soon to be shot due to all asics (of any flavor) and crypto going kaput.....like me.... a wall of shame...or....paperweights....stack them for cat condos etc

But trash...that is just wasteful Smiley



I think a cooler idea would be to build a house out of them - a crypto house! lool. I can just insert them in the interior walls of the house.

Or I could send them back to Bitmain with a C4 explosive bomb on each one. After 24 hrs of operation they would all blow up at the same time. Muahahah!




On a serious note:

..all the players of the many flavors of BTC forks...made their 'millions of $$$' and have enough cashed out ..that they don't care if it all goes
cluster.....it is all about power and ego and screw everyone if they f*ck it all up....ah power......and money...and ego....= stupid an age old problem.....if this comes
to pass will serve me right.....I was such a happy crypto kool aid drinker Sad

legendary
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I just report the news. Don't forget the NYA and 80% of miners have pledged to switch over to btc1. If that happens Jeff Garzik and friends will control bitcoin.

That can easily be prevented by a PoW change and I think we are getting very close to it.  Grin Whatever they do, my UASF node is up and running.

Hold on, gotta go throw out my miners in the trash  Undecided


shame on you recycle for use as doorstops....if you have a lot of soon to be shot due to all asics (of any flavor) and crypto going kaput.....like me.... a wall of shame...or....paperweights....stack them for cat condos etc

But trash...that is just wasteful Smiley



I think a cooler idea would be to build a house out of them - a crypto house! lool. I can just insert them in the interior walls of the house.

Or I could send them back to Bitmain with a C4 explosive bomb on each one. After 24 hrs of operation they would all blow up at the same time. Muahahah!

copper member
Activity: 2898
Merit: 1465
Clueless!
I just report the news. Don't forget the NYA and 80% of miners have pledged to switch over to btc1. If that happens Jeff Garzik and friends will control bitcoin.

That can easily be prevented by a PoW change and I think we are getting very close to it.  Grin Whatever they do, my UASF node is up and running.

Hold on, gotta go throw out my miners in the trash Undecided


shame on you recycle for use as doorstops....if you have a lot of soon to be shot due to all ASIC's (of any flavor) and crypto going kaput.....like me.... a wall of shame...or....paperweights....stack them for cat condos etc

But trash...that is just wasteful Smiley

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Hold on, gotta go throw out my miners in the trash  Undecided
Or you could switch them over to coins that are profitable.  Cool
legendary
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I just report the news. Don't forget the NYA and 80% of miners have pledged to switch over to btc1. If that happens Jeff Garzik and friends will control bitcoin.

That can easily be prevented by a PoW change and I think we are getting very close to it.  Grin Whatever they do, my UASF node is up and running.

Hold on, gotta go throw out my miners in the trash  Undecided

Well, Bitcoin is an experimental project. Putting it in the center of your life was a mistake. There maybe updates and changes which won't suit everyone, you should have taken this into consideration.

Not your fault though, who would knew that majority of the miners would act like retards? A worthy experience.

Yes you are totally right and I was fully aware that this could happen. It's still too early to tell how this will play out though. Retards indeed.
legendary
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I just report the news. Don't forget the NYA and 80% of miners have pledged to switch over to btc1. If that happens Jeff Garzik and friends will control bitcoin.

That can easily be prevented by a PoW change and I think we are getting very close to it.  Grin Whatever they do, my UASF node is up and running.

Hold on, gotta go throw out my miners in the trash  Undecided

Well, Bitcoin is an experimental project. Putting it in the center of your life was a mistake. There maybe updates and changes which won't suit everyone, you should have taken this into consideration.

Not your fault though, who would knew that majority of the miners would act like retards? A worthy experience.
hero member
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...Time to ruminate on this news and watch the price charts like a hawk.
I feel like I'm at a $15 poker tournament in Tunica: "All in! Rebuy! All in! Rebuy! All in! Rebuy!"  Tongue
legendary
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I just report the news. Don't forget the NYA and 80% of miners have pledged to switch over to btc1. If that happens Jeff Garzik and friends will control bitcoin.

That can easily be prevented by a PoW change and I think we are getting very close to it.  Grin Whatever they do, my UASF node is up and running.

Hold on, gotta go throw out my miners in the trash  Undecided
legendary
Activity: 3080
Merit: 1080
I just report the news. Don't forget the NYA and 80% of miners have pledged to switch over to btc1. If that happens Jeff Garzik and friends will control bitcoin.

Well, thanks for bringing that to us. Time to ruminate on this news and watch the price charts like a hawk.
legendary
Activity: 3276
Merit: 2442
I just report the news. Don't forget the NYA and 80% of miners have pledged to switch over to btc1. If that happens Jeff Garzik and friends will control bitcoin.

That can easily be prevented by a PoW change and I think we are getting very close to it.  Grin Whatever they do, my UASF node is up and running.
legendary
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I just report the news. Don't forget the NYA and 80% of miners have pledged to switch over to btc1. If that happens Jeff Garzik and friends will control bitcoin.
legendary
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It's the Alpha version of the Beta, then comes the Beta Beta and then Beta and then production.  Cheesy Cheesy
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Bitmain tweeted that all their mining pools will switch over to btc1 today. You can follow progress at bitnodes for Satoshi:1.14.3 (beta) or Satoshi:1.14.4 production build.
"Version 1.14.3 (aka 'the first beta')" and 1.14.4 = "production build"?
FFS, we're all doomed.  Undecided

I can't even imagine a world where even an ignorant redneck from Arkansas would, literally, name a build "the first beta" and the next minor revision would be considered a "production build". Roll Eyes
legendary
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Bitmain tweeted that all their mining pools will switch over to btc1 today. You can follow progress at bitnodes for Satoshi:1.14.3 (beta) or Satoshi:1.14.4 production build.
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legendary
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...@ComputerGenie

Hey you think that maybe (and this is wild speculation here) Bitmain has been infiltrated by the CCP and they've been told to do what they can to bring bitcoin under the control of the party. The West on the other hand could be pressuring the core devs to do what they can to push out the Chinese influence on the network. There would be hidden undercurrents in this whole tug of war game in the scaling debate. Or maybe I should stop reading Zero Hedge  Cheesy Cheesy
I think that you could be right about the last sentence; however, everything we hear about "Chinese this" and "Chinese that" is at best speculation and at worst more gamesmanship to push agendas (most likely the latter). :/


It all reminds me of:
https://youtu.be/maLIXQLxvvA
legendary
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In many ways this would be the opposite of spite... it would remove him from the picture, which would be an ongoing benefit because he sure seems to hate the system as it is now, and would put less expensive coins in the hands of more people that believe in it.  I think that would be a pretty good return for a brief period of market volatility.

Hmm, yeah you may be right, it could be a blessing if he showed himself the door. I watched an interview with him on YouTube and his entire reason for being willing to risk a split is that the current blocks are full (we all know now that this is no longer the case) and because of that future growth in value and adoption is stifled. He wants bitcoin to gain an even wider userbase _at all costs_. He strikes me as the kind of guy that would play brinkmanship with bitcoin just to get his way. But he thinks the only path forward is an increase in block size and that's all that is necessary.

Doesn't this guy have like hundreds of thousands of BTC? If he dumped he would cause a volatility tsunami! But as you said it would be raining cheap coins on buyers!

@ComputerGenie

Hey you think that maybe (and this is wild speculation here) Bitmain has been infiltrated by the CCP and they've been told to do what they can to bring bitcoin under the control of the party. The West on the other hand could be pressuring the core devs to do what they can to push out the Chinese influence on the network. There would be hidden undercurrents in this whole tug of war game in the scaling debate. Or maybe I should stop reading Zero Hedge  Cheesy Cheesy
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legendary
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Well indeed it seems some of you have snapped up cheap coins cause price recovered a bit. If it stays above 2K for a while I'd be happy with that Smiley


It's a classic bull trap, there's plenty of room for more downside...

Just wait til 20% of miner hashpower pulls out of Segwit2x...

And the 80 %  dedicate some hashpower to attack the minority chain ... is the difficulty adjusted quicker for the UASF berserkers? Or do they finally accept the SW in the SW2x ? (Shit the 20% could be the SW refusers ?)


https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.20185001

I kind of doubt that we are going to get such a nice and clean resolution.

Wouldn't it be nice if Jihan and his follower, Roger Ver and his followers and Craig Wright and his followers all forked off?  How much mining power and economic nodes would they take with them?  Maybe coinbase?  I don't think coinbase is that dumb, but who knows?

Bitcoin is based on PoW ?

What do you think is easier:  

Tell few people to just fork off

or

Get them all to consensus?


What side are you on ?

Proof


There are various ones who have been threatening to fork bitcoin for nearly two years, so I don't know about sides, but it seems to be kind of problematic.

Of course, if they fork, then they prefer that the majority of economic nodes and users will follow them.

This is not about me.  I am just making a statement that maybe it could be better if they fork, because they do not want to even attempt to work within existing systems and constantly engaged in threats and gamesmanship that attempt to exploit ways to scare people into their view of an easier and moldable bitcoin that attempts to compete with credit cards and other payment systems.

Not so sure.  These guys you named they try hard to stay on Satoshi's bitcoin. Or do you speak of buddies building alts, ICOs or side-chains ?
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