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hero member
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November 18, 2014, 04:36:58 PM
It is a pity...you just can't trust anybody these days! Roll Eyes
legendary
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November 18, 2014, 04:22:40 PM

I am accusing no one of anything, I'm just stating facts. And searching for logical answers, nothing more.

Ok, I'll keep watching this thread in case you find something interesting and decide to post it here.
legendary
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November 18, 2014, 04:17:44 PM
I begin thinking you are playing the fool here, barrabas...


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Only if you use a single computer. You need those amounts for EACH computer you mine in. So not altogether wrong, am I? (purple)

Well probably Bittrex used those 14 000 coins to mine 1K BYC on 24 powerfull PCs... Yeah, I think that makes sense  Roll Eyes

Not as much sense as moving around hundreds of thousands of coins just to confuse "some" people (only those unable to click twice on the explorer, of course), I have to admit, but some sense nevertheless. Otherwise the other explanation was what? I understand all it takes for destroying any amount of coins is a click of the mouse, right?


I (and the majority i assume) dont give a f**k whether Bittrex moves the coins or keps them in one wallet if only they won't get stolen.

But if you want to accuse Bittrex in being scamers please don't hesitate!

I am accusing no one of anything, I'm just stating facts. And searching for logical answers, nothing more.
legendary
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November 18, 2014, 04:15:29 PM
I begin thinking you are playing the fool here, barrabas...


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Only if you use a single computer. You need those amounts for EACH computer you mine in. So not altogether wrong, am I? (purple)

Well probably Bittrex used those 14 000 coins to mine 1K BYC on 24 powerfull PCs... Yeah, I think that makes sense  Roll Eyes

Not as much sense as moving around hundreds of thousands of coins just to confuse "some" people (only those unable to click twice on the explorer, of course), I have to admit, but some sense nevertheless. Otherwise the other explanation was what? I understand all it takes for destroying any amount of coins is a click of the mouse, right?


I (and the majority i assume) dont give a f**k whether Bittrex moves the coins or keps them in one wallet if only they won't get stolen.

But if you want to accuse Bittrex in being scamers please don't hesitate!
legendary
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November 18, 2014, 04:10:04 PM
I begin thinking you are playing the fool here, barrabas...


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Only if you use a single computer. You need those amounts for EACH computer you mine in. So not altogether wrong, am I? (purple)

Well probably Bittrex used those 14 000 coins to mine 1K BYC on 24 powerfull PCs... Yeah, I think that makes sense  Roll Eyes

Not as much sense as moving around hundreds of thousands of coins just to confuse "some" people (only those unable to click twice on the explorer, of course), I have to admit, but some sense nevertheless. Otherwise the other explanation was what? I understand all it takes for destroying any amount of coins is a click of the mouse, right?
legendary
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November 18, 2014, 04:03:18 PM
I begin thinking you are playing the fool here, barrabas...




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Only if you use a single computer. You need those amounts for EACH computer you mine in. So not altogether wrong, am I? (purple)

Well probably Bittrex used those 14 000 coins to mine 1K BYC on 24 powerfull PCs... Yeah, I think that makes sense  Roll Eyes
legendary
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November 18, 2014, 04:01:29 PM
Perhaps that the 159 had grown to the 191 by the time it was moved...

LOL. If I move my 100BYC From wallet A to B, and then from B to C, that doesn’t prove that I’ve got 200BYC because Block explorer shows 2 transactions 100BYC each…


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The other thing is, yes, obviously, since no other wallet had even 10% of such amounts, it HAD to be the Bittrex wallet by defect. Question is, why does the Bittrex wallet move the coins at all? and why in such amounts? Security reasons?

To confuse some people Wink


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BYC is POM which is a modified POS. It means the more coins you have the more you mine, obviously. Not to mention uninterrupted by the captchas, since there's a "fix" for that.

Wrong again!
I can mine the same amount with 25 coins on the wallet and 600 coins.



Is that your answer? Really? Wow! (red)

Only if you use a single computer. You need those amounts for EACH computer you mine in. So not altogether wrong, am I? (purple)
legendary
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November 18, 2014, 03:58:11 PM
Perhaps that the 159 had grown to the 191 by the time it was moved...

LOL. If I move my 100BYC From wallet A to B, and then from B to C, that doesn’t prove that I’ve got 200BYC because Block explorer shows 2 transactions 100BYC each…


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The other thing is, yes, obviously, since no other wallet had even 10% of such amounts, it HAD to be the Bittrex wallet by defect. Question is, why does the Bittrex wallet move the coins at all? and why in such amounts? Security reasons?

To confuse some people Wink


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BYC is POM which is a modified POS. It means the more coins you have the more you mine, obviously. Not to mention uninterrupted by the captchas, since there's a "fix" for that.

Wrong again!
I can mine the same amount with 25 coins on the wallet and 600 coins.
legendary
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November 18, 2014, 03:36:16 PM
everyone yelling scam scam meanwhile up 100% lol

lol? really? Have you checked the price at the time of your posting? Day's young stil...

FACT is there are, as I have posted before, already 65,000 coins out there for which the owners have paid ZERO, so any price they can get will be 100% profit (minus electricity charges, if you want to be pickety picky about it-. That is almost 1/3 of all coins outstanding, ok? In other words, you are sitting on a barrel full of dynamite. And price will eventually reflect that.
legendary
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November 18, 2014, 03:33:14 PM

Now, the "mess" seems to continue in the mining of the coin: It is supposed to mine 1BYC per block, as advertised. Well, it doesn't. There are MANY block that mine more than 1 BYC. Way more, in fact. Some a lot more than 1 BYC.

I have been looking sporadically since I just have a passing interest in the coin, but I have seen how "irregular" the mining is even now that it is supposed to be "stabilized". Have you check blocks #s 68138, 68154, 68179, 68196 and 68206, for instance. Well do. And you will discover that, quite frequently actually, some people are mining blocks that are way more profitable than the ones you are mining at 1BYC per block.

Are you f***ing joking!! Those are the coins sent from one addresss to another! They are added to the transaction of mined block (1BYC). Examine more carefully in the block explorer. You can generate such "irregular" blocks yourself simly by sending xx coins from one wallet to another. Either you were sleepy when writing that post or just a weak FUD attempt  Wink

OK, that seems simple enough an explanation... except that there are not enough coins, ANYWHERE, to "explain away" such a thing. Block # 68900 is 111,942 and change BYC. NO ONE but Bittrex has even a 10% of that amount. Block # 69838 is almost 93,000 BYC...

Like I said, there's probably a very simply, innocent explanation to this, but you haven't come even close to provide it.

I can though -I believe- explain why 12 hours ago the outstanding number of BYC was at 226K count and now it stands at less than 215K. Irregular, as it is, it seems to be due to the destroying of the coins that were tendered and refunded by Bittrex. Why that happens so long after the transactions took place, simply eludes me. I know that those coins have been mining a significant amount since they were tendered though... Shit wherever you look. All the time. From all sides and parties. Nauseating...



Well it took me 3 minutes of simple investigation to track where those coins come from - all from the 159k Bittrex wallet. The "weird" thing is that after every withdrawal from that wallet the remaining amount moves to the other address. So here is your innocent explanation.  Wink

On #2 I agree that the total amount of coins reduced due to the burning of ~14k BYC sold during the buyback. Why this was reflected in some time - well the block explorer was not updated in time, that's it.

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I know that those coins have been mining a significant amount since they were tendered though...


Don't know what you mean by that - BYC is not the PoS coin. And if you mean that they were used laying in the wallets and helping to mine uninterruptedly, than look at the difficulty and check if they were able to mine a large a mount of coins.

So if you look closely there is not so much shit around here...

I still don't understand how you can move 191,000 coins from a 159,000 wallet but I am pretty sure there's an explanation for that too. Perhaps that the 159 had grown to the 191 by the time it was moved... The other thing is, yes, obviously, since no other wallet had even 10% of such amounts, it HAD to be the Bittrex wallet by defect. Question is, why does the Bittrex wallet move the coins at all? and why in such amounts? Security reasons?

BYC is POM which is a modified POS. It means the more coins you have the more you mine, obviously. Not to mention uninterrupted by the captchas, since there's a "fix" for that.
hero member
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November 18, 2014, 03:28:09 PM
everyone yelling scam scam meanwhile up 100% lol
legendary
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November 18, 2014, 03:18:36 PM

Now, the "mess" seems to continue in the mining of the coin: It is supposed to mine 1BYC per block, as advertised. Well, it doesn't. There are MANY block that mine more than 1 BYC. Way more, in fact. Some a lot more than 1 BYC.

I have been looking sporadically since I just have a passing interest in the coin, but I have seen how "irregular" the mining is even now that it is supposed to be "stabilized". Have you check blocks #s 68138, 68154, 68179, 68196 and 68206, for instance. Well do. And you will discover that, quite frequently actually, some people are mining blocks that are way more profitable than the ones you are mining at 1BYC per block.

Are you f***ing joking!! Those are the coins sent from one addresss to another! They are added to the transaction of mined block (1BYC). Examine more carefully in the block explorer. You can generate such "irregular" blocks yourself simly by sending xx coins from one wallet to another. Either you were sleepy when writing that post or just a weak FUD attempt  Wink

OK, that seems simple enough an explanation... except that there are not enough coins, ANYWHERE, to "explain away" such a thing. Block # 68900 is 111,942 and change BYC. NO ONE but Bittrex has even a 10% of that amount. Block # 69838 is almost 93,000 BYC...

Like I said, there's probably a very simply, innocent explanation to this, but you haven't come even close to provide it.

I can though -I believe- explain why 12 hours ago the outstanding number of BYC was at 226K count and now it stands at less than 215K. Irregular, as it is, it seems to be due to the destroying of the coins that were tendered and refunded by Bittrex. Why that happens so long after the transactions took place, simply eludes me. I know that those coins have been mining a significant amount since they were tendered though... Shit wherever you look. All the time. From all sides and parties. Nauseating...



Well it took me 3 minutes of simple investigation to track where those coins come from - all from the 159k Bittrex wallet. The "weird" thing is that after every withdrawal from that wallet the remaining amount moves to the other address. So here is your innocent explanation.  Wink

On #2 I agree that the total amount of coins reduced due to the burning of ~14k BYC sold during the buyback. Why this was reflected in some time - well the block explorer was not updated in time, that's it.

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I know that those coins have been mining a significant amount since they were tendered though...


Don't know what you mean by that - BYC is not the PoS coin. And if you mean that they were used laying in the wallets and helping to mine uninterruptedly, than look at the difficulty and check if they were able to mine a large a mount of coins.

So if you look closely there is not so much shit around here...
legendary
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November 18, 2014, 01:51:47 PM

Now, the "mess" seems to continue in the mining of the coin: It is supposed to mine 1BYC per block, as advertised. Well, it doesn't. There are MANY block that mine more than 1 BYC. Way more, in fact. Some a lot more than 1 BYC.

I have been looking sporadically since I just have a passing interest in the coin, but I have seen how "irregular" the mining is even now that it is supposed to be "stabilized". Have you check blocks #s 68138, 68154, 68179, 68196 and 68206, for instance. Well do. And you will discover that, quite frequently actually, some people are mining blocks that are way more profitable than the ones you are mining at 1BYC per block.

Are you f***ing joking!! Those are the coins sent from one addresss to another! They are added to the transaction of mined block (1BYC). Examine more carefully in the block explorer. You can generate such "irregular" blocks yourself simly by sending xx coins from one wallet to another. Either you were sleepy when writing that post or just a weak FUD attempt  Wink

I am still undecided about this thread...
Is it a promotional thread for bytecent,
a thread to bash bytecent (this one can be excluded)
or just some attempt to manipulate the price of this scam

It is very simple... for people with a modicum of intelligence and common sense: NEITHER.

First, I supported -and invested- in Bytecent. That was before creating this thread.

Then IconicExpert messed up (again) big time by not just  allowing but even trying to justify the enormous amounts of coins that were mined in the first hours and that stunk to high heaven of accidental or controlled scam. Either way, I insisted HERE, that a new launching (giving him the benefit of the doubt, about if scam or accident) or issuing a refund to unsatisfied investors, were the only options. When IconicExpert refused to acknowledge that there was a mess and pretended that mining tens of thousands of coins when a max of 1440 per day were promised, I created this thread to expose the mess and otherwise force Bittrex to take action.

Finally, that happened and those discontent with the mess were given the fair chance of getting a refund of their investment.

End of THAT PART of the drama. As far as I am concerned, no one is left in BYC that doesn't perfectly know what they are invested in.

Now, subsequently, I have discovered the still unresolved matter of apparently huge amounts of coins moving around along some blocks. And I want clarification, that's all.

In answering another poster, the lies of IconicExpert are irrefutable; his pretended "scams" aren't. Quite a difference, in my view.
newbie
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November 18, 2014, 01:49:40 PM
Dump and run from this coin. It's an Iconic Expert scam.  Roll Eyes
legendary
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November 18, 2014, 01:37:10 PM

Now, the "mess" seems to continue in the mining of the coin: It is supposed to mine 1BYC per block, as advertised. Well, it doesn't. There are MANY block that mine more than 1 BYC. Way more, in fact. Some a lot more than 1 BYC.

I have been looking sporadically since I just have a passing interest in the coin, but I have seen how "irregular" the mining is even now that it is supposed to be "stabilized". Have you check blocks #s 68138, 68154, 68179, 68196 and 68206, for instance. Well do. And you will discover that, quite frequently actually, some people are mining blocks that are way more profitable than the ones you are mining at 1BYC per block.

Are you f***ing joking!! Those are the coins sent from one addresss to another! They are added to the transaction of mined block (1BYC). Examine more carefully in the block explorer. You can generate such "irregular" blocks yourself simly by sending xx coins from one wallet to another. Either you were sleepy when writing that post or just a weak FUD attempt  Wink

OK, that seems simple enough an explanation... except that there are not enough coins, ANYWHERE, to "explain away" such a thing. Block # 68900 is 111,942 and change BYC. NO ONE but Bittrex has even a 10% of that amount. Block # 69838 is almost 93,000 BYC...

Like I said, there's probably a very simply, innocent explanation to this, but you haven't come even close to provide it.

I can though -I believe- explain why 12 hours ago the outstanding number of BYC was at 226K count and now it stands at less than 215K. Irregular, as it is, it seems to be due to the destroying of the coins that were tendered and refunded by Bittrex. Why that happens so long after the transactions took place, simply eludes me. I know that those coins have been mining a significant amount since they were tendered though... Shit wherever you look. All the time. From all sides and parties. Nauseating...
legendary
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November 18, 2014, 08:15:56 AM

Now, the "mess" seems to continue in the mining of the coin: It is supposed to mine 1BYC per block, as advertised. Well, it doesn't. There are MANY block that mine more than 1 BYC. Way more, in fact. Some a lot more than 1 BYC.

I have been looking sporadically since I just have a passing interest in the coin, but I have seen how "irregular" the mining is even now that it is supposed to be "stabilized". Have you check blocks #s 68138, 68154, 68179, 68196 and 68206, for instance. Well do. And you will discover that, quite frequently actually, some people are mining blocks that are way more profitable than the ones you are mining at 1BYC per block.

Are you f***ing joking!! Those are the coins sent from one addresss to another! They are added to the transaction of mined block (1BYC). Examine more carefully in the block explorer. You can generate such "irregular" blocks yourself simly by sending xx coins from one wallet to another. Either you were sleepy when writing that post or just a weak FUD attempt  Wink

I am still undecided about this thread...
Is it a promotional thread for bytecent,
a thread to bash bytecent (this one can be excluded)
or just some attempt to manipulate the price of this scam
legendary
Activity: 1208
Merit: 1003
November 18, 2014, 07:57:57 AM

Now, the "mess" seems to continue in the mining of the coin: It is supposed to mine 1BYC per block, as advertised. Well, it doesn't. There are MANY block that mine more than 1 BYC. Way more, in fact. Some a lot more than 1 BYC.

I have been looking sporadically since I just have a passing interest in the coin, but I have seen how "irregular" the mining is even now that it is supposed to be "stabilized". Have you check blocks #s 68138, 68154, 68179, 68196 and 68206, for instance. Well do. And you will discover that, quite frequently actually, some people are mining blocks that are way more profitable than the ones you are mining at 1BYC per block.

Are you f***ing joking!! Those are the coins sent from one addresss to another! They are added to the transaction of mined block (1BYC). Examine more carefully in the block explorer. You can generate such "irregular" blocks yourself simly by sending xx coins from one wallet to another. Either you were sleepy when writing that post or just a weak FUD attempt  Wink
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November 18, 2014, 06:33:06 AM
newbie
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November 18, 2014, 01:40:43 AM
On with BYTECENT...

I have no further "beef" with this coin since the right thing was done by offering unsatisfied investors -and with good reason- a refund. That's doing things right.

Now, the "mess" seems to continue in the mining of the coin: It is supposed to mine 1BYC per block, as advertised. Well, it doesn't. There are MANY block that mine more than 1 BYC. Way more, in fact. Some a lot more than 1 BYC.

I have been looking sporadically since I just have a passing interest in the coin, but I have seen how "irregular" the mining is even now that it is supposed to be "stabilized". Have you check blocks #s 68138, 68154, 68179, 68196 and 68206, for instance. Well do. And you will discover that, quite frequently actually, some people are mining blocks that are way more profitable than the ones you are mining at 1BYC per block.

I heard its was a algo issue. I never bought any nor will I but I did follow to see if it was a real scam. Seems not more a broken algo or block height issue. They can just shorten the mining end time so it still generates the same or near same total of coins it was intended.
newbie
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November 18, 2014, 01:32:12 AM
Obvious SCAM.
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