The digital ID for Gambling - page 8.

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Quote from: mindrust on June 01, 2022, 09:48:58 PM

Quote from: traderethereum on June 01, 2022, 09:33:47 PM

Maybe this method can be applied to gamblers so that the government can monitor anyone who has used a lot of money to gamble.
But I don't know if this method will be liked by gamblers because, at the very least, gamblers have to register themselves before gambling and it can make their identity visible to the government.
After that, gamblers will not feel free to gamble because of government supervision.
If this is really implemented in that country, privacy for people who want to play gambling will be lost, especially for people who use crypto to gamble.

Welcome to the new world order where “you will own nothing and still be happy”. -Klaus Schwab

This kind of crap will only increase as we get closer to 2030. Real estate prices, food prices are climbing up. Soon people will be begging their masters for food and shelter and in return they will give up on their privacy rights.

That's what I'm worried about right now because the world has gone through many things that made a lot of people suffer.
Starting from food shortages in several countries due to reduced supply, rising food prices, and so on, they can't survive even though some can survive with difficulty.
But regarding government oversight of the gambling business, the government is starting to realize that crypto is starting to become popular.
There is a possibility that many things will shift to using crypto.
It makes the government want to find out who the people in crypto are.

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I like the idea of having to verify your ID on one verification platform, in order to use all online gambling platforms.
This is way more convenient than having to verify your identity on each and every online casino you are using.
The second good thing is that the MyID platform is going to be strictly controlled by the government. This is way better than 10 online casinos having to handle your sensitive data and you not knowing what are they doing with it.
However, I don't live in Denmark and I won't affect by this new regulation. Perhaps more Danish gamblers can join the discussion and share some thoughts about this new verification system.
I don't know how easy it is for Danish gamblers to sign up on online casinos, that are licensed outside Denmark? I guess that this might be forbidden.

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At first I thought its a membership ID for gamblers. Cheesy

Sort for casinos and you get free spins everyday.
Its actually used to access online banking, government websites and certain digital services, such as online gambling. Now I don't know why you would need an ID for gambling, usually they just check how old you are whichever ID you present and then you can go bet all the way.

A bit spooky but if they don't protest against this, I guess its okay for the Danish.

ID for gambling, ID as passport of health, ID to track carbon trail, ID for whatever and so on. When I see all these initiatives and innovations, I always "get stuck" between two thoughts: on the one hand, officials are cretins and come up with cretin things just to prove their need and continue to be parasites. On the other hand, all this very clearly leads to totalitarianism, that is, it is a completely meaningful strategy. Quite funny, but I think both motives are significant here.

for sure, this move will make their government track their people about their activities. now, it depends on the person himself if he will use such ID to use those gambling sites. this is why it is better to play in crypto casinos or bookies, because some of them are not yet asking for KYC. the decision to use ID is really up to the individual. because once he submitted his credentials, he should know that his privacy is at stake here. the government knows his gambling activities and so he should not be surprised if he needs to submit tax for this activity.

The government may really will sponsor casinos just to get their hands on the information of the gamblers in the country. Its an all -in-one ID from financial, government to services you will have to provide ID.

They are not saying it but they are going to what the CCP had achieved in China. What they don't know is that Chinese like it that way because they know their government serves them well. Idk in Denmark government but in US its definitely not going not work. Even the 2nd Amendment is highly debated.

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on June 01, 2022, 10:10:19 PM

I'm in favor of this. And because the country is Denmark I think I would be submitting myself to this if I were a citizen. But if this is done in other countries where the level of inefficiency, corruption, abuse, and failure to properly implement policies are very high, I would stick to the old ways of doing online gambling and keep myself private. I'm sure there will always be ways to go around this new system.

I am going to remain neutral, as I see both positive and negative aspects. Digital ID threatens privacy, as has been discussed and is the main concern of this thread, but implementing it has positive aspects such as preventing minors from gambling. Crypto casinos currently without KYC can not know if the gambler is a minor, and therefore can not prohibit him to play even if he is in their TOS,

On the other hand, with steps like these it seems that we are going to total control of the population, with cameras everywhere and where governments are going to know what you are doing every second.

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I'm in favor of this. And because the country is Denmark I think I would be submitting myself to this if I were a citizen. But if this is done in other countries where the level of inefficiency, corruption, abuse, and failure to properly implement policies are very high, I would stick to the old ways of doing online gambling and keep myself private. I'm sure there will always be ways to go around this new system.

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Quote from: traderethereum on June 01, 2022, 09:33:47 PM

Maybe this method can be applied to gamblers so that the government can monitor anyone who has used a lot of money to gamble.
But I don't know if this method will be liked by gamblers because, at the very least, gamblers have to register themselves before gambling and it can make their identity visible to the government.
After that, gamblers will not feel free to gamble because of government supervision.
If this is really implemented in that country, privacy for people who want to play gambling will be lost, especially for people who use crypto to gamble.

Welcome to the new world order where “you will own nothing and still be happy”. -Klaus Schwab

This kind of crap will only increase as we get closer to 2030. Real estate prices, food prices are climbing up. Soon people will be begging their masters for food and shelter and in return they will give up on their privacy rights.

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Quote from: fiulpro on May 31, 2022, 10:33:05 AM

Apparently Denmark is all Set to Launch the new Digital ID rules for Gambling in the upcoming July. They have already been using some sort of identification but apparently this is new and improved and would apply for all the gamblers willing to submit their ID and use the services. EasyID is now going to be Replaced by MyID. The license holders of online casino would have to now integrate their systems in the manner that the government prefers. People are still waiting for an update but I would like to know what you think about the system of online ID? Integrating it with gambling might be saving some kids going on these sites but it might also be taking all the privacy away. What are your thoughts on this ?
Reference:
https://www.gamblinginsider.com/news/16594/denmark-to-introduce-new-digital-id-rules-in-july

but I cannot get the Idea what is this? obligatory ? or something that People will decide if they wanted or not? or at least how this can be applicable in Online as there are gambling sites that does not require KYC?

but this is perfect for those KYCed site because this ID will surely help them out claiming faster.

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Maybe this method can be applied to gamblers so that the government can monitor anyone who has used a lot of money to gamble.
But I don't know if this method will be liked by gamblers because, at the very least, gamblers have to register themselves before gambling and it can make their identity visible to the government.
After that, gamblers will not feel free to gamble because of government supervision.
If this is really implemented in that country, privacy for people who want to play gambling will be lost, especially for people who use crypto to gamble.

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Quote from: KTChampions on June 01, 2022, 03:59:10 PM

Quote from: bittraffic on May 31, 2022, 10:50:15 PM

At first I thought its a membership ID for gamblers. Cheesy

Sort for casinos and you get free spins everyday.
Its actually used to access online banking, government websites and certain digital services, such as online gambling. Now I don't know why you would need an ID for gambling, usually they just check how old you are whichever ID you present and then you can go bet all the way.

A bit spooky but if they don't protest against this, I guess its okay for the Danish.

ID for gambling, ID as passport of health, ID to track carbon trail, ID for whatever and so on. When I see all these initiatives and innovations, I always "get stuck" between two thoughts: on the one hand, officials are cretins and come up with cretin things just to prove their need and continue to be parasites. On the other hand, all this very clearly leads to totalitarianism, that is, it is a completely meaningful strategy. Quite funny, but I think both motives are significant here.

for sure, this move will make their government track their people about their activities. now, it depends on the person himself if he will use such ID to use those gambling sites. this is why it is better to play in crypto casinos or bookies, because some of them are not yet asking for KYC. the decision to use ID is really up to the individual. because once he submitted his credentials, he should know that his privacy is at stake here. the government knows his gambling activities and so he should not be surprised if he needs to submit tax for this activity.

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Quote from: fiulpro on May 31, 2022, 10:33:05 AM

Apparently Denmark is all Set to Launch the new Digital ID rules for Gambling in the upcoming July. They have already been using some sort of identification but apparently this is new and improved and would apply for all the gamblers willing to submit their ID and use the services. EasyID is now going to be Replaced by MyID. The license holders of online casino would have to now integrate their systems in the manner that the government prefers. People are still waiting for an update but I would like to know what you think about the system of online ID? Integrating it with gambling might be saving some kids going on these sites but it might also be taking all the privacy away. What are your thoughts on this ?

Based on the article they have an old ID system they've been using for over a decade before the creation of Cryptocurrency and casino based Cryptocurrency and they are just upgrading the old ID system, if the majority of Danish are strict followers of Cryptocurrency and decentralization then they will not accept this ID to be used in their gambling activity and they will opt to play in Cryptocurrency based casino that can protect their identity, I don't think this kind of ID system will be successful in countries where Cryptocurrency based casinos are well accepted.

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Quote from: bittraffic on May 31, 2022, 10:50:15 PM

At first I thought its a membership ID for gamblers. Cheesy

Sort for casinos and you get free spins everyday.
Its actually used to access online banking, government websites and certain digital services, such as online gambling. Now I don't know why you would need an ID for gambling, usually they just check how old you are whichever ID you present and then you can go bet all the way.

A bit spooky but if they don't protest against this, I guess its okay for the Danish.

ID for gambling, ID as passport of health, ID to track carbon trail, ID for whatever and so on. When I see all these initiatives and innovations, I always "get stuck" between two thoughts: on the one hand, officials are cretins and come up with cretin things just to prove their need and continue to be parasites. On the other hand, all this very clearly leads to totalitarianism, that is, it is a completely meaningful strategy. Quite funny, but I think both motives are significant here.

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Quote from: noorman0 on June 01, 2022, 07:45:10 AM

This is nothing but a form of consumer protection in the gambling industry and the prosecution of stricter obligations for citizens in return. The problem is, is asking for personal information common in gambling companies in that country?
From other news, the country's revenue from online gambling decreased year by year by an average of 7%. Don't know if this means the number of players continues to decrease due to requests for personal information or there are more tax violators from gambling income which is the reason for this rule.

Another confirmation of the fact that the state, trying to do something good, does bad things (or it is so bad that this good turns into bad). If these measures are for the benefit of the people, then why are they running away from this jurisdiction and obviously playing either online or in other countries? I think the answer is obvious - people don't want such tight control and unreasonable taxes.

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Quote from: fiulpro on May 31, 2022, 10:33:05 AM

Apparently Denmark is all Set to Launch the new Digital ID rules for Gambling in the upcoming July. They have already been using some sort of identification but apparently this is new and improved and would apply for all the gamblers willing to submit their ID and use the services. EasyID is now going to be Replaced by MyID. The license holders of online casino would have to now integrate their systems in the manner that the government prefers. People are still waiting for an update but I would like to know what you think about the system of online ID? Integrating it with gambling might be saving some kids going on these sites but it might also be taking all the privacy away. What are your thoughts on this ?
Reference:
https://www.gamblinginsider.com/news/16594/denmark-to-introduce-new-digital-id-rules-in-july

That's quite handy from the perspective of the governance control. Possible some kind of authentication system will be introduced which will have a verification api linked to the government portal which will authenticate the user and let the user login to the gambling platform.

The privacy of the swedish users will become officially next to zero. But I believe this rule will be applied to the fiat based casinos who are operating from Sweden.

If that is the case, July will bring in some great number of users in the crypto gambling platforms. Good days are coming soon for the crypto gambling companies.

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It will surely have its pros and cons. It will be another strategy for the government to regulate and monitor the gamblers as well as their earnings which will also require them to pay taxes later on. On the other hand, it could also lessen the number of minors who are into gambling. Through this, they will be able to control or even prohibit young people to gamble which is also a good thing.

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Quote from: fiulpro on May 31, 2022, 10:33:05 AM

Apparently Denmark is all Set to Launch the new Digital ID rules for Gambling in the upcoming July. They have already been using some sort of identification but apparently this is new and improved and would apply for all the gamblers willing to submit their ID and use the services. EasyID is now going to be Replaced by MyID. The license holders of online casino would have to now integrate their systems in the manner that the government prefers. People are still waiting for an update but I would like to know what you think about the system of online ID? Integrating it with gambling might be saving some kids going on these sites but it might also be taking all the privacy away. What are your thoughts on this ?
Reference:
https://www.gamblinginsider.com/news/16594/denmark-to-introduce-new-digital-id-rules-in-july

I think we may have lot of pros here outweighing the cons considering that this may help to lessen somehow the problem gambling. Not that so sure about that but somehow I get the feeling that it will decrease on that aspect. The government should have an agreement not to use those data somewhere else but still doubtful though on what it may bring.

The thing is, if people who want to enjoy the benefits that it may brought on them, I don't think submissions would be an issue for them, as long as it has utility, people will provide even if it means about privacy.

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We can't say about this without knowing what is actually going to become the law, but as you said if it requires ID verification for every players then it may eliminate the minors abusing the system but do you think it is going to stop them completely? They will move to other platforms where there is no such requirements or even can result into unregulated scam casinos which steals money from the people selectively.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on June 01, 2022, 08:41:16 AM

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The problem with this is that it is always sold with noble motives but ends up with a greater control of the population.

Another angle to this development is that it will eliminate the privacy that the danish people formerly enjoy while gambling, as the government will also be able to keep track of its citizens and monitor their gambling behaviour. Certainly it may result in some citizens not being eligible to hold some public positions and offices once their gambling behaviour is checked and seen to be out of control. For instance, an individual seeking any position regarding finance in any government establishment may not be considered if his gambling record shows he has a disorder.

Government does really like to track everything and this is really can be seen into those typical gambling sites or casinos we do have online on which KYC verification is a must or even transacting with your own credit

card which do really exposes off your identity or personal details and thats the preference of the government and now they are trying to implement that digital id number then its not really that totally different.

They are really just doing it for some organized way but in overall it is just on the same sense.

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Quote from: Poker Player on May 31, 2022, 10:00:10 PM

The problem with this is that it is always sold with noble motives but ends up with a greater control of the population.

Another angle to this development is that it will eliminate the privacy that the danish people formerly enjoy while gambling, as the government will also be able to keep track of its citizens and monitor their gambling behaviour. Certainly it may result in some citizens not being eligible to hold some public positions and offices once their gambling behaviour is checked and seen to be out of control. For instance, an individual seeking any position regarding finance in any government establishment may not be considered or easily disqualified if his gambling record shows he has a disorder.

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This is nothing but a form of consumer protection in the gambling industry and the prosecution of stricter obligations for citizens in return. The problem is, is asking for personal information common in gambling companies in that country?
From other news, the country's revenue from online gambling decreased year by year by an average of 7%. Don't know if this means the number of players continues to decrease due to requests for personal information or there are more tax violators from gambling income which is the reason for this rule.

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Quote from: fiulpro on May 31, 2022, 10:33:05 AM

Apparently Denmark is all Set to Launch the new Digital ID rules for Gambling in the upcoming July. They have already been using some sort of identification but apparently this is new and improved and would apply for all the gamblers willing to submit their ID and use the services. EasyID is now going to be Replaced by MyID. The license holders of online casino would have to now integrate their systems in the manner that the government prefers. People are still waiting for an update but I would like to know what you think about the system of online ID? Integrating it with gambling might be saving some kids going on these sites but it might also be taking all the privacy away. What are your thoughts on this ?

I don't know about the Danish people and how the government handles gambling in their country, but here in our country and in other countries, it will not work, Cryptocurrency adoption is moving and well-accepted already, the Danish people must be honest and they trust their government for them to trust their vital information, this is something not acceptable to the majority of gamblers in Cryptocurrency based casinos.

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