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September 20, 2022, 10:55:07 PM
#31
Despite its huge population and stable economy, China can't simply afford to wage a major war. Human life has become more precious, as the Russians have just found out. Many of the families have just one child each nowadays and they don't want to sacrifice their children in needless wars. And in China, the situation is more exacerbated as a result of the one-child policy. An invasion of Taiwan will cost China millions of lives and there is no way the country can afford that. It was possible in the 20th century, but definitely not in the 21st century.

On the near side of Russia, there is a war going on but not on TV news. Azerbaijan vs Armenia. Pelosi also visited Azerbaijan after a massive attack on Armenia where almost 200 people I believe were dead. The war was also about the contested border region which is Nagornokaraba.

China vs Taiwan tension I guess is dying despite US ships passing thru Taiwan straight, China didn't engage.
If war erupts, Asia will really be disturbed. China has more influence and economic disaster will affect all its surroundings.
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September 20, 2022, 10:48:06 PM
#30
Despite its huge population and stable economy, China can't simply afford to wage a major war. Human life has become more precious, as the Russians have just found out. Many of the families have just one child each nowadays and they don't want to sacrifice their children in needless wars. And in China, the situation is more exacerbated as a result of the one-child policy. An invasion of Taiwan will cost China millions of lives and there is no way the country can afford that. It was possible in the 20th century, but definitely not in the 21st century.
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September 20, 2022, 11:37:20 AM
#29
The economic effects of a conflict between China and Taiwan are shown by the following example. If a conflict ever breaks out, we already know that the US will really lose out to China in the semiconductor business. As no trade will happen. This will have a significant impact on Western domestic markets, causing previously unanticipated increases in inflation and shortages.
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September 20, 2022, 07:20:45 AM
#28
Well, strictly speaking.... USA and China are already at war, with the financial & military support that they are giving to the Ukraine and Russia on both sides.  Roll Eyes They do not have feet on the ground, but they are funding the war and also giving specialist support on the military side. 

The Taiwanese involvement will be more direct... so it will be officially seen as a direct influence in that conflict. It will send the global financial markets into a downward spiral and Crypto currencies will also feel the influence of that.  Tongue
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September 20, 2022, 06:58:20 AM
#27
Don't be scared, China is just making a facade. They might have a big military and they are making sure the world sees it but there's a housing market crisis in China right now and the cracks of authoritarian regime are showing so I don't think that they're going on an offensive soon, remember that Taiwan has a lot of the US allies on it's side too.
When Russia was planning to invade Ukraine majority of us felt this invasion would never happen. Even Ukraine was not prepared for the invasion because it felt Russia would be scared of its allies, but the world is now suffering from the invasion. China is not a democratic nation that has a functional parliament that can deliberate on the policies and programs of the executive arm. There is also no viable opposition party that can oppose the policies of the Communist Party of China. Just like Putin, Xi Jinping has the power to declare because he is a despot and has no opposition.

The United States and its allies must make China understand that Taiwan would not be treated like Ukraine where none of its allies' troops are fighting.   Joe Biden made such a remarkable move when he stated that US troops would protect the Taiwanese territory.

Economically the world would suffer because Taiwan is one of the leading economies in Asia. The world is suffering from a shortage of gas, oil, and agricultural products because of the Russian invasion but China's invasion of Taiwan would lead to a shortage of technological and electronic parts and products. The would be an increase in the prices of electronics and communication products.        
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September 20, 2022, 05:05:45 AM
#26

Economic sanctions on China will definitely damage US's economy as well. Will they really consider it tho? I think travel bans and arms embargoes will be the first to be enacted. Arms embargoes can be a cruel one and may lead to direct military conflict with China as the initiator. Things are going to be messy.
Apocalypse soon?

Should remember that China is considered the world's factory, any ban on China means it will hurt the whole world, not just the US. If war breaks out, I think the world economy will be much more devastating than what Russia and Ukraine caused.

China, Russia and India are having a close relationship with each other, I believe that these 3 countries will create a new extreme in the future to balance the world, the world is no longer just playing by US rules and EU. The rise of these three countries is unstoppable.
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September 20, 2022, 04:43:06 AM
#25
I don't think Xi is dumb enough to strike Taiwan currently when the world economy is heading towards recession. China could actually end up losing more when compared to Taiwan just like the Russia-Ukraine situation.

The Chinese government couldn't do jack when US sent over their politicians to Taiwan recently which itself implies that they are not really interested in starting a war with Taiwan.

That's what my fear is! China has recovered quite well from the effects of COVID, rather faster than many other countries. At the same time, Taiwan is known for semiconductor and electronics industry. So I won't be surprised if China actually plans to launch attack on Taiwan.

That might start a big war and lead to World War III. US president Joe Biden said that US will stand beside Taiwan if any war happens. So the impact on world economy will be devastating if it happens in reality. Bitcoin may get lucky among this turmoil.
Chinese government had already learned from the mistake Russia made and I don't know if they are ready to take the risk of crumbling there economy because of ordinary war. Chinese government will not allow such a mistake especially the Europe which is there main target when we talk about business to crumble the relationship they have with many NATO countries. China is not ready for this war and the chances of this war occuring is low.
Doubt China learn from Russia's mistake in their invasion of Ukraine. Worse, it could give China a case to study how the whole world is very fractured and divided. Sure, Ukraine got the support from US and Nato allies but only in non-direct ways like weapons, tanks, ammos,... but no troops whatsoever. This might be a lesson for China if they want to invade Taiwan since Taiwan is an island, if China could surround the Taiwan island and blockable all the incoming supplies from the US and its allies, stall enough time, you know.

Of course, if US and allies are willing to commit their troops to protect Taiwan island then this plan of China is not working, not enough in any way. A lot of things need to be considered here.
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September 19, 2022, 01:39:50 PM
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I can say that the US and NATO will not be weakened if they can supply Ukraine with unlimited weapons. Instead, they are rather timid about supplying Ukraine with weapons, weapons are limited and how Nato's soldiers will fight without weapons in hand. Aid is a problem that is causing headaches for the US and EU because if Ukraine cannot end the war with victory, it will be a huge loss for all that they provide to Ukraine. There have been many warnings from military analysts that if aid continues to Ukraine, both the US and EU will deplete their arsenals.

I think they compete for Taiwan there, the semiconductor industry plays a key role in Taiwan, everyone wants to own it.
Let me put it this way, USA supplied Ukraine with 1/10th of their yearly budget, and it has worked wonders and Ukraine has managed to push off Russia already, and that is literally just 1/10th of their budget, probably less. They sent about 40 billion dollars worth of military stuff, and around 40 billion dollars worth of cash or equal stuff, like to buy these things or food or shelter or clothes etc for people, and they have 800 billion dollars budget for military each year.

So, imagine the scenario where Russia and USA goes against each other. Obviously it would be horrible due to nuclear weapons that will destroy the world, but if we remove nuclear weapons, Russia would fall within just a few months, if 40 billion sends Russians back, think of 800 billion per year could do to them.
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September 19, 2022, 01:39:00 PM
#23
I don't think Xi is dumb enough to strike Taiwan currently when the world economy is heading towards recession. China could actually end up losing more when compared to Taiwan just like the Russia-Ukraine situation.

The Chinese government couldn't do jack when US sent over their politicians to Taiwan recently which itself implies that they are not really interested in starting a war with Taiwan.

That's what my fear is! China has recovered quite well from the effects of COVID, rather faster than many other countries. At the same time, Taiwan is known for semiconductor and electronics industry. So I won't be surprised if China actually plans to launch attack on Taiwan.

That might start a big war and lead to World War III. US president Joe Biden said that US will stand beside Taiwan if any war happens. So the impact on world economy will be devastating if it happens in reality. Bitcoin may get lucky among this turmoil.
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September 19, 2022, 01:23:33 PM
#22
I don't think Xi is dumb enough to strike Taiwan currently when the world economy is heading towards recession. China could actually end up losing more when compared to Taiwan just like the Russia-Ukraine situation.

The Chinese government couldn't do jack when US sent over their politicians to Taiwan recently which itself implies that they are not really interested in starting a war with Taiwan.
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September 19, 2022, 12:29:07 PM
#21
If you ask me I would say they should take lessons from the war between Russia and Ukraine because in Asia there is the same situation between China and Taiwan, Putin was thinking because of his military power they can defeat Ukine, but they were wrong because of the help from all over the world especially the USA and EU Russia is still facing with some problem and they are under economic sanctions, while in all over the world this war had the negative effect of the world economy, and there in China, they have the same situation and if they start the war we can see the same thing but this time in Asia and China.
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September 19, 2022, 05:26:38 AM
#20
Another article spreading fear and panic. Aren't China and Taiwan basically one country(of course Taiwan has big autonomy)?
What would USA gain from a war against China for Taiwan? What would China gain for attacking (and probably occupying Taiwan)?
Both countries won't gain much from such situation. They would lose more than they could potentially gain. It's not worth the risk.
If there's a war between USA and China for Taiwan, nobody would give a damn about Binance and in which countries Binance is banned.

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September 18, 2022, 07:59:06 PM
#19
When they are talking about ww3 speculation it's not at all a shot in the air since most of the times we have to look back what's happening in the world, some of the major countries like Russia, China and India are siding on one side and they are also pressurising small countries like Ukraine directly or indirectly ,how China supported Russia by being neutral Russia will also support China by doing the same if they attack Taiwan and mind it they got the most amount of nuclear weapons as well and it take only one stupid reason and one stupid person to shoot it and start ww3, usa is not gonna back off since they already laid down that there would be consequences, the world needs peace 🕊️

Huge countries want to enlarge their territories and prove to the world that they're powerful countries regardless of how they would damage innocent lives in countries that they're invading. I hope they would think more than twice before pursuing invasionbecause it could possibly cause another global crisis again. The whole world could suffer because of them.
no more wars - we already have done so much damage to the world.
Earlier - there was COVID  - then Russia - USA Afghan crisis -  then floods and famine. Now china and Taiwan war is in making - The world needs healing.

The problem is, we don't know what these top officials of both countries are thinking.
Either they will lower their pride and do what is both beneficial to them.
Or be aggressive and wage war. But we are just hoping that both sides will settle their disagreements and come to a peaceful arrangement.
We don't need more of this action as the world is still in the recovery of the covid pandemic.
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September 18, 2022, 07:52:11 PM
#18

I expect such sanction will drop the volume trading from Binance and tax to Chinese government will reduce from Binance.

This won't be the only dire consequence to the crypto market.
There could be a general decrease in confidence in cryptocurrencies if the market perceives them as being too closely linked to China. This could lead to a sell-off and a sharp decline in prices. A ban on Binance will definitely make Crypto seem like a China's product to an average Joe.


Economic sanctions on China will definitely damage US's economy as well. Will they really consider it tho? I think travel bans and arms embargoes will be the first to be enacted. Arms embargoes can be a cruel one and may lead to direct military conflict with China as the initiator. Things are going to be messy.
Apocalypse soon?
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September 18, 2022, 07:45:40 PM
#17
Don't be scared, China is just making a facade. They might have a big military and they are making sure the world sees it but there's a housing market crisis in China right now and the cracks of authoritarian regime are showing so I don't think that they're going on an offensive soon, remember that Taiwan has a lot of the US allies on it's side too.
China is the second biggest economy after the United States and if eventually war erupt them it will be a great devastation on China and the US will want to use every possible means to make sure that the Chinese government regret there action and I think this one is going to be completely different from that of Russia and Ukraine.
Looking at the tension between the two countries, China is building up arms and strong holds to make sure that they have different alternatives they can use if eventually the NATO comes against them full.
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September 18, 2022, 03:47:25 PM
#16
When they are talking about ww3 speculation it's not at all a shot in the air since most of the times we have to look back what's happening in the world, some of the major countries like Russia, China and India are siding on one side and they are also pressurising small countries like Ukraine directly or indirectly ,how China supported Russia by being neutral Russia will also support China by doing the same if they attack Taiwan and mind it they got the most amount of nuclear weapons as well and it take only one stupid reason and one stupid person to shoot it and start ww3, usa is not gonna back off since they already laid down that there would be consequences , world needs peace 🕊️
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September 18, 2022, 02:35:23 PM
#15
China stands high as one among the grown economy. They've got all that is necessary to invade Taiwan. Though they're high in all means, a war against Taiwan will surely make China suffer big decline in its progress. Realising this China might avoid the invasion over Taiwan. The recent truth that caused world Countries suffer is the invasion over Ukraine by Russia.
China should think if it’s Taiwan really worth it, or better to have a good relation with them instead of making such pressure. War is not good at all, it can cost a lot of lives and money which is not good and with this, WW3 can happen any time. My country is on the middle of these countries, probably we might ended up the battle ground for bigger countries especially with China and US, so I hope there’s still a solution for this and not the war.

I believe you hit the point, China should think if Taiwan is really worth as much as they can lose. I guess China knows that and they will not make a move, but they will not forget it either, that will be like a cloud over Taiwan, as it was until now. So except for big words, something we often come from China, I don't think we will see anything here, at least that would be the best option. Any conflict here can be devastating for the entire world.
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September 17, 2022, 06:58:25 PM
#14
China stands high as one among the grown economy. They've got all that is necessary to invade Taiwan. Though they're high in all means, a war against Taiwan will surely make China suffer big decline in its progress. Realising this China might avoid the invasion over Taiwan. The recent truth that caused world Countries suffer is the invasion over Ukraine by Russia.
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September 17, 2022, 05:21:01 PM
#13
Don't be scared, China is just making a facade. They might have a big military and they are making sure the world sees it but there's a housing market crisis in China right now and the cracks of authoritarian regime are showing so I don't think that they're going on an offensive soon, remember that Taiwan has a lot of the US allies on it's side too.
I would not be so sure about this, when leaders find themselves facing internal problems many times they decide to try to solve them by setting their sights on other countries and cultures, so it's quite possible this is what is happening here and if that is the case then a war between China and Taiwan would be inevitable, this will have devastating effects in a world economy that was very weak already, so it'll most likely send the world directly through a depression, and once there who knows if it'll ever recover.
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September 17, 2022, 05:06:15 PM
#12
There is never a war that doesn't have its effect, the war between Russia and Ukraine has already caused great loss of lives, resources, wealth and so much more and definitely of a war ensue between The peoples republic of China an Taiwan there would be Ripple effects felt around the world but there are some corrections I would like you to know first it's about your thoughts on the involvement of binance if a war is to come between the two.

#Binance isn't a company under the ownership of the Chinese government changpeng  Zhao is the CEO of binance and has the right to lead his company any way he wants.

# Binance isn't the only crypto exchange so regardless of their stands if a war happens if there isn't a collective agreement from other exchanges on sanctions binance alone won't do much harm.

I pray it doesn't get To a war, economy would worsen, ties and friendship between countries would break down even before it starts to affect crypto it would have really caused so much damages to citizens of the two countries and the world at large.
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