Topic: The economic effect of people flying from RF mandatory conscription - page 4. (Read 989 times)

It's 146 total, and only half of them roughly 70 million work, you cut half of them again since the ones working for the government, police,  doctors, and teachers, as well as government-owned companies, won't be sent to the frontline and you have 200k in the first wave and roughly 400k now, that's about 3% and a further 1% of what's left going to the frontline and probably going to get killed or left handicapped for life. Plus it won't be the cashier at Auchan that would be fleeing but the ones that have enough money to flee, the ones with education and experience that know how to get a job, and more importantly who have the money to pay one year of advance on rent in a foreign country, not to mention the 2000E plane ticket 

Of course, the effect won't be felt immediately but in a year or two, the consequences will be disastrous, not only was Russia's population shrinking rapidly before now it will be worse and worse in the year to come.


If my country would be that stupid in the first place not only would I have left the moment the war started but way back!
If I were on the other side, the attacked one, that's it, I would pack my bag and go do what I was trained to do, my relatives died in the war, a few of my older relatives in the previous war, probably dozens did in the other century, guess it would be my time.
Shitty ending, but I had a good run!

Is this a rhetorical question? The impact will be negative, of course. Many people with good education will leave the country.
The scale of the negative impact probably won't be that big. Tens of thousands of people aren't that big number for a country with 146 million, but most of the people running away are skilled and educated.


What friendly countries? North Korea and Syria? Perhaps North Korea might send several thousand educated people, but they will have to learn Russian first. I don't think that the regime in North Korea would let educated people leave the country. They probably won't go back once they leave.

According to the data, Russia has about 146 million inhabitants and I do not believe that this emigration will have too great an impact on their economy, unless the final figure is a few million people who are somewhat important for the system. Even if this happens, there is always the possibility that Russia will import labor from friendly countries.

I am surprised that the borders are not closed and that people are allowed to leave, although I guess the rule according to which a conscript can refuse to participate in the war still applies, because Russia still defines it as a special operation.

I assume that the question is aimed at the Russian members of the forum, but I certainly would not go to a war that is by all definitions a war of conquest and which does not respect the Geneva Conventions. Some say that only cowards run away, but in this case, all those who do not want to have bloody hands and an unclean conscience are running away.

its a mandatory for them and they are at war, anyone who will run will be considered a deserter. if you are in a country at war also, everyone who were trained as military service will have to comply to serve the country. just like US army, its also their military duty. they are also proud to join the force. they can't just run besides European countries suspend visa issuance and restrict Russian citizens.

Yes of course, mainly because I don't agree with the war. If I agreed with it, maybe I'd play Rambo, but since it's a war, or rather an invasion, which I understand is unjust, I'd try to escape if I could.


The effects of wars are usually bad for the economy in general, for both sides, and this is something we are seeing in Europe. If the war were to end today, the situation could only improve, in Russia, Ukraine, the EU and the rest of the world in general.

The Russian Federation is conscripting around 300.000 troops (take with a pinch of salt). This comes, in theory from reservists and, as usual, most recruits will come from the politically irrelevant regions in the East and South. Many people in the RF know that there are good chances of getting killed in Ukraine and the RF is not being attacked (rather the opposite). In a regime that is quite harsh with protesters and opposition, it is remarkable how many are publicly protesting across the country.

By contrast, other have decided to simply leave. When the war begun, many flew and now even more. The people who can afford to do so and live away for a long time are precisely the professional elite and the most capable individuals (doctors, engineers, IT people, expert economists and similar). I think that this is going to have a deep effect in the economy of the RF.

Would you run away to avoid conscription? What will be the effect on RF economy?