The end of copyright and patent is where we should be headed - page 6.

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Quote from: Beliathon on March 05, 2015, 05:47:12 PM

One of the challenges of our time will be destroying the stigma against culture sharing ("piracy").

I'm not so sold on that.

It's great that someone enjoys a download. The mugs who poured a ton of time, money and talent into making it available deserve compensating.

Crowd funding and micro payment may well be the way forward, but there's a pretty mucky middle ground to be crossed yet.

Anyone under 35 or so effectively assumes that all media can be free. We may end up up to our noses in self indulgent shite that's given away. I'd rather pay for some professional standards and filtration.

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I wouldn't say that all patent/copyrights laws are wrong. If you created successful brand, you should be able to somehow protect it from competitors who would just rip off your logo/name and confuse customers.

But things got out of hand, what was meant to be a 'protection' turned into full blown industry. Recent lawsuit lost by apple (~$500m) to some small company who only capitalise on holding patents, proves the case:

http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/02/25/apple-loses-patent-case-to-small-texas-company/?_r=0

Other problem is the amount of ridiculous 'inventions' being granted. My personal favourite is the guy from Australia who managed to patent a wheel (although he did it to show how bad the new patent laws are):

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn965-wheel-patented-in-australia.html

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An Australian man has been issued with an innovation patent for the wheel after setting out to test the workability of a new national patent system.

John Keogh was issued the innovation patent for a "circular transportation facilitation device" under a patent system introduced in May 2001.

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Quote from: CIYAM on March 05, 2015, 03:13:29 PM

The concepts of copyright and patent are very much 20th century ones.

The idea of trying to control "copies" made sense when you had to have expensive equipment to make the copies and the idea of allowing people to hold control over the new inventions made sense when you didn't have a way for everyone to communicate.

But we don't live in the 20th century anymore.

What we see now is that in the US companies try and keep copyrights alive "forever" (just look at how many years they keep extending the time frame for copyright on music) and with patents many corporations are able to just "stifle" any development of new ideas (which was supposed to be the very point of patents) which is why it has taken so long for many alternative energy technologies to even appear.

We don't need these "artifacts of the past" as we have "crowd funding" and "crowd sourcing" to get things done much more efficiently.

Let's stop supporting antiquated ideas and start pushing forward some new thinking (this is the space that Bitcoin is a big part of).

Couldn't agree more, patents and copyrights are completely out of place and counter-productive in the digital age. One of the challenges of our time will be destroying the stigma against culture sharing ("piracy").

The near-future is decentralized, open-source, and crowdfunded, that much is clear. Disobedience equals progress here, folks. Obedience means stagnancy.

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Quote from: CIYAM on March 05, 2015, 03:13:29 PM

The concepts of copyright and patent are very much 20th century ones.

The idea of trying to control "copies" made sense when you had to have expensive equipment to make the copies and the idea of allowing people to hold control over the new inventions made sense when you didn't have a way for everyone to communicate.

But we don't live in the 20th century anymore.

What we see now is that in the US companies try and keep copyrights alive "forever" (just look at how many years they keep extending the time frame for copyright on music) and with patents many corporations are able to just "stifle" any development of new ideas (which was supposed to be the very point of patents) which is why it has taken so long for many alternative energy technologies to even appear.

We don't need these "artifacts of the past" as we have "crowd funding" and "crowd sourcing" to get things done much more efficiently.

Let's stop supporting antiquated ideas and start pushing forward some new thinking (this is the space that Bitcoin is a big part of).

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Terminated.

The copyright laws have done nobody any good besides the greedy, and already rich people. One could find examples in almost every industry. A fine example is the music industry. Patents are just like obstacles that are causing trouble when someone is trying to make something new.

One should try patenting a patent request. Roll Eyes

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Quote from: CIYAM on March 05, 2015, 03:13:29 PM

The concepts of copyright and patent are very much 20th century ones.

The idea of trying to control "copies" made sense when you had to have expensive equipment to make the copies and the idea of allowing people to hold control over the new inventions made sense when you didn't have a way for everyone to communicate.

But we don't live in the 20th century anymore.

What we see now is that in the US companies try and keep copyrights alive "forever" (just look at how many years they keep extending the time frame for copyright on music) and with patents many corporations are able to just "stifle" any development of new ideas (which was supposed to be the very point of patents) which is why it has taken so long for many alternative energy technologies to even appear.

We don't need these "artifacts of the past" as we have "crowd funding" and "crowd sourcing" to get things done much more efficiently.

Let's stop supporting antiquated ideas and start pushing forward some new thinking (this is the space that Bitcoin is a big part of).

100% agree. We still live by and abide by a set of rules that were created before a lot of our technology nowadays. Society is completely and vastly different than it was just 50 years ago.

We need to figure out a way to adapt and adopt as a human race. We're such small picture beings...

Who knows, maybe we'll all work together in the future when we realize it's just one short life we have - ownership of ANYTHING doesn't matter in the long run. Let's make our lives here the best they possibly can be during our short tenure on Earth. I doubt I'll get to see this in my lifetime.

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In agreement that their should be new models of revenue sharing such as Itunes digital copies etc is where development needs to grow
Also reimbursing artists directly less major studios but more cooperatives
Plus Mickey Mouse laws .... some copyrights are beyond ridiculous.

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The concepts of copyright and patent are very much 20th century ones.

The idea of trying to control "copies" made sense when you had to have expensive equipment to make the copies and the idea of allowing people to hold control over the new inventions made sense when you didn't have a way for everyone to communicate.

But we don't live in the 20th century anymore.

What we see now is that in the US companies try and keep copyrights alive "forever" (just look at how many years they keep extending the time frame for copyright on music) and with patents many corporations are able to just "stifle" any development of new ideas (which was supposed to be the very point of patents) which is why it has taken so long for many alternative energy technologies to even appear.

We don't need these "artifacts of the past" as we have "crowd funding" and "crowd sourcing" to get things done much more efficiently.

Let's stop supporting antiquated ideas and start pushing forward some new thinking (this is the space that Bitcoin is a big part of).

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