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Quote from: yemight600 on April 21, 2021, 03:35:13 PM

Even though i want the SUPER LEAGUE to be a success for some reasons, however the negative effects cannot be over look. The proposal would have been better if the money involved is not that huge. And thanks to the SUPER LEAGUE ideal UEFA is able to change champions League from group stage to a real league now.

Well, the reality is that the ESL is not totally a bad idea; capitalist are usually only after money and that is what has happened; UEFA only stopped ESL because they were carried along while the process were done. European Super League (ESL) will be back in the near future, but it will be under the umbrella of UEFA who would draw out a plan to make it very competitive and rewarding.

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Quote from: Igebotz on April 21, 2021, 01:37:31 PM

Florentino is a genius after all

Aside from all those money collected by him, he made another bold move which is to show FIFA that when all those clubs join in together they could have done a serious impact. Imagine if alot more clubs actually join in and the fans agree with this idea, this would leave FIFA into nothing

Quote from: perfect999 on April 21, 2021, 04:34:11 PM

They do not care if they go join a super league or not, it is not their business, it doesn't bother them and in fact it helps them by making the fatigue of this six clubs to be horrible so that other 14 would have a better chance in the premier league.

You seriously dont have any clue about what you are talking about. Where do you think all those money for the EPL came from? Its from the sponsor and the broadcasting right. If all those big 6 actually leave EPL, do you think the number of sponsors would remain the same? Also when small teams like Sheffield play against Manchester City, they will receive a decent sum of money which would help them rebuild the whole team

Its not about trying to win the EPL for all those small teams but rather its about getting those cash to build the team before they can really take on the EPL

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Quote from: Igebotz on April 21, 2021, 01:37:31 PM

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The remaining would be use to get Real Madrid out of £900m debt, Florentino is a genius after all, it was a perfect time to retire from the football world and have his statue built Grin

the proposed ESL was never a bad idea after all the corruptions in the UEFA but the timing was wrong, the fans were not considered, it was firmly formed on greed from the club owners. Congratulations to Jose Mourinho for being the first ESL manager to get sacked. Grin

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Is step 3 and 4 speculation or real? I doubt those teams with crappy financial situation will let Perez grab that money and go away with it! No way! I didn't pay attention to this, is there a link somewhere to an article talking about this?

Actually, there were funds involved in the agreement to join as a founding club and they choose to walk away that's a breach of contract and those funds can not be refunded so it only means one thing. Perez takes all with his ESL dream. Grin

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Let's be honest, these "premier league" teams are all salivating over the potential that if these six clubs are somehow dropped, punished, given points penalty, anything that would hurt them basically, there is a chance the other 14 teams would be higher up and that is what they are looking for.

They do not care if they go join a super league or not, it is not their business, it doesn't bother them and in fact it helps them by making the fatigue of this six clubs to be horrible so that other 14 would have a better chance in the premier league. But if you drop them to championship, or give them -30 penalty, or basically anything to hurt, that would help them even more. That is why they are pushing forward with something, otherwise they just did something and suspended just 24 hours later, it was like a joke, a bluff, nothing came out of it anyway.

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https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/56830308

According to news, Milan, Inter and Atletico Madrid have joined the English clubs which have withdrawn from the ESL too. And Agnelli says that this project can't go on like this and he is very right about it of course. There are only 3 clubs left in the tournament and it will be revoked probably.

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Quote from: snipie on April 21, 2021, 03:48:31 PM

Quote from: Igebotz on April 21, 2021, 01:37:31 PM

WINNER OF THE ESL

The remaining would be use to get Real Madrid out of £900m debt, Florentino is a genius after all, it was a perfect time to retire from the football world and have his statue built Grin

the proposed ESL was never a bad idea after all the corruptions in the UEFA but the timing was wrong, the fans were not considered, it was firmly formed on greed from the club owners. Congratulations to Jose Mourinho for being the first ESL manager to get sacked. Grin

https://i.ibb.co/TRW4PNV/Screenshot-20210421-181246.png

Is step 3 and 4 speculation or real? I doubt those teams with crappy financial situation will let Perez grab that money and go away with it! No way! I didn't pay attention to this, is there a link somewhere to an article talking about this?

It's just a speculation. Of course others can be watching while a team is making the most benefit of the league after losing a lot. We should just be thankful the SUPER LEAGUE couldn't become a reality.

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Quote from: Igebotz on April 21, 2021, 01:37:31 PM

WINNER OF THE ESL

The remaining would be use to get Real Madrid out of £900m debt, Florentino is a genius after all, it was a perfect time to retire from the football world and have his statue built Grin

the proposed ESL was never a bad idea after all the corruptions in the UEFA but the timing was wrong, the fans were not considered, it was firmly formed on greed from the club owners. Congratulations to Jose Mourinho for being the first ESL manager to get sacked. Grin

https://i.ibb.co/TRW4PNV/Screenshot-20210421-181246.png

Is step 3 and 4 speculation or real? I doubt those teams with crappy financial situation will let Perez grab that money and go away with it! No way! I didn't pay attention to this, is there a link somewhere to an article talking about this?

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Even though i want the SUPER LEAGUE to be a success for some reasons, however the negative effects cannot be over look. The proposal would have been better if the money involved is not that huge. And thanks to the SUPER LEAGUE ideal UEFA is able to change champions League from group stage to a real league now.

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In the the aftermath of the suspension of ESL and Andrea Agnelli
Nasser Al-Khelaifi have been officially appointed as president of the European Clubs Association (ECA) after the resignation of Agnelli two days ago .
Paris-Saint-Germain has become one of the top of the continent and Al-Khelaifi's position on the Super League made him one of the best candidates for this position .
The important thing now is to calm things down between clubs and the European Union and open a new page with a lot of The debate that leads to the development of club revenues and the increase of Champions League fans.

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The remaining would be use to get Real Madrid out of £900m debt, Florentino is a genius after all, it was a perfect time to retire from the football world and have his statue built Grin

the proposed ESL was never a bad idea after all the corruptions in the UEFA but the timing was wrong, the fans were not considered, it was firmly formed on greed from the club owners. Congratulations to Jose Mourinho for being the first ESL manager to get sacked. Grin

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Quote from: Igebotz on April 21, 2021, 02:48:27 AM

BREAKING NEWS

European Super League Is Officially Suspended

All the six (6) English clubs have left the proposed European Super League just few hours after the protest in London and the all English club captain emergency meeting organised by Liverpool skipper Henderson yesterday to save football from been ruined. The ESL is on hold for now till further notice.

That was really fast. I don't even want to know how long these 12 clubs negotiated in the background, how much money was spent on it. I mean, quite a few lawyers have certainly spent months to define the statutes, the legal framework, etc. and the whole idea is buried within not even a week? What a bust!

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Quote from: Theb on April 21, 2021, 11:49:45 AM

According to the news 9 out of the 12 teams who joined the ESL have withdrawn from the league leaving only Barcelona, Juventus, and Real Madrid still part of the team. I'm guessing that they realized with all the negative press they are getting as well as their own fans being angry about it they won't be gaining any kind of revenue if nobody will be watching and supporting their games. Since from the start they have a lose-lose situation here without any kind of notice and a totally opposite direction from the football we love this is something that these clubs can't be handling.

Like i said this tournament cannot be played and wont be played. Now waiting for this 3 clubs to withdraw from the tournament and do delete this nonsense of a league. But now Uefa will ruin it as well probobly with the presure going up

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Quote from: snipie on April 21, 2021, 12:03:25 PM

Quote from: Theb on April 21, 2021, 11:49:45 AM

According to the news 9 out of the 12 teams who joined the ESL have withdrawn from the league leaving only Barcelona, Juventus, and Real Madrid still part of the team. I'm guessing that they realized with all the negative press they are getting as well as their own fans being angry about it they won't be gaining any kind of revenue if nobody will be watching and supporting their games. Since from the start they have a lose-lose situation here without any kind of notice and a totally opposite direction from the football we love this is something that these clubs can't be handling.

Without the support of German and French top teams, this version of ESL wouldn't stay for a long time as predicted by some people before. I still think that ESL should take place but not like the way those teams would to implement... It has to be more equitable and every team has the right to collect more money. My 2 cents in this topic.

It's not only the absence of major clubs from these two countries. FIFA and UEFA can never approve something without their wishes and for this matter, I agree with them.
ESL is a VIP club, football is not. It was well known that those owners wanted more money from the time that they get involved and bought their "teams" and they never gave a rat's ass for the game (or any game).

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Quote from: Theb on April 21, 2021, 11:49:45 AM

According to the news 9 out of the 12 teams who joined the ESL have withdrawn from the league leaving only Barcelona, Juventus, and Real Madrid still part of the team. I'm guessing that they realized with all the negative press they are getting as well as their own fans being angry about it they won't be gaining any kind of revenue if nobody will be watching and supporting their games. Since from the start they have a lose-lose situation here without any kind of notice and a totally opposite direction from the football we love this is something that these clubs can't be handling.

Without the support of German and French top teams, this version of ESL wouldn't stay for a long time as predicted by some people before. I still think that ESL should take place but not like the way those teams would to implement... It has to be more equitable and every team has the right to collect more money. My 2 cents in this topic.

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According to the news 9 out of the 12 teams who joined the ESL have withdrawn from the league leaving only Barcelona, Juventus, and Real Madrid still part of the team. I'm guessing that they realized with all the negative press they are getting as well as their own fans being angry about it they won't be gaining any kind of revenue if nobody will be watching and supporting their games. Since from the start they have a lose-lose situation here without any kind of notice and a totally opposite direction from the football we love this is something that these clubs can't be handling.

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After the withdrawal of the 6 premiere league clubs the UEFA made a compromise for them and the other founding members of the ESL as of the beginning in 2024, two seats will be awarded to clubs with the idea of the Super League and that were unable to qualify for the Champions League through their domestic leagues, for example, if a team such as West Ham ranked fifth in the English Premier League, Arsenal ended up In sixth place, West Ham will qualify for the European League and Arsenal will qualify for the Champions League with the new Invitation system.

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Quote from: boltz on April 21, 2021, 08:10:12 AM

Now, after all this heat around the ESL is kinda over , I want to say that the tournament itself was a good idea because let me tell you in 10 years from now , I would prefer to have multi-european championship with multiple teams from Europe fight over the title so this is why Super League was just the beginning. Imagine if we had Super League 2 and 3 with all this Europe clubs joining in creating a multi national championship...it would have been amazing but then money speaks and everything is over.

Not a bad idea but have you consider the fans? Do you know how impossible it would be without the fans? Travelling to different countries every weekend will definitely reduce the number of fans because not everyone can afford ticket to different countries every weekend.

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Quote from: Cnut237 on April 21, 2021, 04:40:27 AM

This whole debacle reflects very badly on those clubs that wanted to join. It reveals once again the huge gulf between the profit-seeking owners and the sports-loving everyday fans. Each of the English clubs has issued a humiliating apology. Hopefully lessons can be learned from this, and the structure of the game will improve as we move forward.

To be honest i am a little bit disappointed that those clubs have backed down so quickly because i would have like to see how the UEFA would have reacted if the super league would have become more and more a reality with more clubs signing the agreements and so on. All the talking about "the fans won" is also crap because the fans are probably the last thing that the UEFA (and also the FIFA of course) think about. All they want is more money and therefore they are making the competitions bigger with more participating clubs which means more games, which means more TV time which means more money.

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Now, after all this heat around the ESL is kinda over , I want to say that the tournament itself was a good idea because let me tell you in 10 years from now , I would prefer to have multi-european championship with multiple teams from Europe fight over the title so this is why Super League was just the beginning. Imagine if we had Super League 2 and 3 with all this Europe clubs joining in creating a multi national championship...it would have been amazing but then money speaks and everything is over.

Both of them had a place in football zone.

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