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Strange things happening in the world of football:

-Jose sacked over ESL

-Chelsea fans protesting

-Barcelona rumored to have pulled out

-Ed Woodward has stepped down as executive vice chairman of Manchester United


Liverpool fans showing displeasure in the proposed European Super League ( ESL)




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Another puritan view! ESL is just a repackaged and re-branded version of European club football games. The concept is very similar to what has been done in cricket as T20 or the famous IPL game. Now the time has come to football to make it more exciting.

Due to the covid situation, the stadium games are in the brink of collapse. The incomes from various endorsements are drying out. So the ESL is simply a survival strategy where people will be more interested and the money will start rolling. Be adaptable to changes brother!
I'm not familiar with cricket, so I can't talk about it. But concept of ESL is good for 15 founding clubs only - they think about themselves only. While for remaining European football it means collapse.
Also, does it makes sense when clubs can play in ESL no matter of their results in national league? What's point of EPL when Arsenal who only 9th still can play in ESL.
Managers of these clubs like Pep, Klopp, players are also against this league.

U think he was talking about the UEFA Champions League and he may be right, from the past two years the level of corruption has crippled the league, from the officiating down to the finances, participating clubs are being robbed, given a little amount while UEFA keep the big sum in their purse, the passion for the game was certainly fading.
I'm not sure what are you talking about. UEFA share huge money with clubs and these money is getting bigger each year.
UEFA isn't perfect, but Perez and co isn't sacred cow too.

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As said Jesper Moller who is a member of the UEFA Executive Committee. UEFA will take strict sanctions for every club that follows the European Super League, and they will be banned from playing in all UEFA competitions.
The same sanctions also apply in the Europa League, MU and Arsenal are Super League club that still play in the Europa League.

it would be simply unbelievable to see this happening, and on the other hand, it is the only chance for PSG to take the title Smiley
nevertheless, UEFA making this step will make football destined to basketball situation few years ago, with two FIBA Superleague and Euroleague, where it is clear who will win

there is no way for fans to merit UEFA competition more than European Super league, no matter how it is called, it is a matter of football quality
There is some difference. Euroleague alreadywas main basketball league in Europe, while FIBA tried to attract clubs to their new league by blackmailing them, threatening to ban clubs from national leagues and players from national teams.


After such huge negative reaction, it's good to see that few clubs may change their mind.
I think most already saw Perez interview, where IMO he said lot of bulshit. Changing game length from 45 to 30 minutes sounds bad for me. Wouldn't be surprised if they would add commercial breaks during the game for TV.
What's next, remove offsides?

The super league looks like a joke if indeed the players won't be able to participate in national leagues, FIFA organised matches and national teams.
The automatic qualification of the foundation teams every season is another wrong measurement for the super league.It will limit the quality of rivalries among teams in national leagues. However, I am sure this will be sorted out by FIFA soon
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Another puritan view! ESL is just a repackaged and re-branded version of European club football games. The concept is very similar to what has been done in cricket as T20 or the famous IPL game. Now the time has come to football to make it more exciting.

Due to the covid situation, the stadium games are in the brink of collapse. The incomes from various endorsements are drying out. So the ESL is simply a survival strategy where people will be more interested and the money will start rolling. Be adaptable to changes brother!
I'm not familiar with cricket, so I can't talk about it. But concept of ESL is good for 15 founding clubs only - they think about themselves only. While for remaining European football it means collapse.
Also, does it makes sense when clubs can play in ESL no matter of their results in national league? What's point of EPL when Arsenal who only 9th still can play in ESL.
Managers of these clubs like Pep, Klopp, players are also against this league.

U think he was talking about the UEFA Champions League and he may be right, from the past two years the level of corruption has crippled the league, from the officiating down to the finances, participating clubs are being robbed, given a little amount while UEFA keep the big sum in their purse, the passion for the game was certainly fading.
I'm not sure what are you talking about. UEFA share huge money with clubs and these money is getting bigger each year.
UEFA isn't perfect, but Perez and co isn't sacred cow too.

~snip
As said Jesper Moller who is a member of the UEFA Executive Committee. UEFA will take strict sanctions for every club that follows the European Super League, and they will be banned from playing in all UEFA competitions.
The same sanctions also apply in the Europa League, MU and Arsenal are Super League club that still play in the Europa League.

it would be simply unbelievable to see this happening, and on the other hand, it is the only chance for PSG to take the title Smiley
nevertheless, UEFA making this step will make football destined to basketball situation few years ago, with two FIBA Superleague and Euroleague, where it is clear who will win

there is no way for fans to merit UEFA competition more than European Super league, no matter how it is called, it is a matter of football quality
There is some difference. Euroleague alreadywas main basketball league in Europe, while FIBA tried to attract clubs to their new league by blackmailing them, threatening to ban clubs from national leagues and players from national teams.


After such huge negative reaction, it's good to see that few clubs may change their mind.
I think most already saw Perez interview, where IMO he said lot of bulshit. Changing game length from 45 to 30 minutes sounds bad for me. Wouldn't be surprised if they would add commercial breaks during the game for TV.
What's next, remove offsides?
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This tournament must NOT happen or probobly the end for football itself. 

Skysport news just confirmed that Chelsea Football Club are preparing legal documents to withdraw from the European Super League (ESL); while it is also reported that Manchester City will also follow ensuit and withdraw; with great joy; i think the European Super League (ESL) has been suspended and banned and would not hold. Woodward has also reportedly resigned at his post for Manchester United; good victory for football and Manchester united fan.

Sources:

https://twitter.com/talkSPORT/status/1384580215016460288
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/56823501
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This tournament must NOT happen or probobly the end for football itself. Kids always wish of winning the champions league and world cup and those greedy people are gone a take it away from them. Just greedy
The European Super League is only the idea of ​​a few obsessed people to increase their fortunes, Just look at how FIFA rejects the presence of LSE and some football legends do not support it. The presence of LSE created a new conflict in the world of football, and the impact is those players who compete in LSE cannot strengthen their country in the world cup.

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Totally. I was shocked to see my club Arsenal being one of sthe founding clubs. I am really switching my club to some other maybe Leeds if I see them playing in ESL. I am kinda sure that players from these teams will also strongly oppose the idea of their club participation in this but right now nothing is clear.

I can only say one thing: If they do this , they can earn money as much as they want but they won't earn fans support or respect ever.

I think that they earn enough money as it is, so it's should decide not money. So far, the idea seems doomed to fail. I am an adherent of old traditions and personally to me, this idea does not like.
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This tournament must NOT happen or probobly the end for football itself. Kids always wish of winning the champions league and world cup and those greedy people are gone a take it away from them. Just greedy

Totally. I was shocked to see my club Arsenal being one of sthe founding clubs. I am really switching my club to some other maybe Leeds if I see them playing in ESL. I am kinda sure that players from these teams will also strongly oppose the idea of their club participation in this but right now nothing is clear.

I can only say one thing: If they do this , they can earn money as much as they want but they won't earn fans support or respect ever.
I’m also a Gunner, but mate this clubs involvement is beyond just the players or fans. The club owners are roundly business minded men, all they care about is MONEY and MONEY. I think UEFA should negotiate with the founders of this ESL and propose a shift in earnings and to avoid the destruction of more than a century of tradition and bring our beloved game into disrepute.
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This tournament must NOT happen or probobly the end for football itself. Kids always wish of winning the champions league and world cup and those greedy people are gone a take it away from them. Just greedy

Totally. I was shocked to see my club Arsenal being one of sthe founding clubs. I am really switching my club to some other maybe Leeds if I see them playing in ESL. I am kinda sure that players from these teams will also strongly oppose the idea of their club participation in this but right now nothing is clear.

I can only say one thing: If they do this , they can earn money as much as they want but they won't earn fans support or respect ever.
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Its to show FIFA that they are dead serious about this. Its kinda like telling FIFA that they got nothing to lose even if they all decided to go with the ESL
As Florentino Perez said during an interview with El Chiringuito, "We have reached the conclusion that with the European Super League we can alleviate the club's losses." The European Super League will help the club recover financially in the midst of the pandemic. When the club has no income other than television broadcasting rights, Hopefully the European Super League can be the right medium to increase club income. Big team matches will be even more exciting allowing audiences around the world to watch the big clubs compete.



there is no way for fans to merit UEFA competition more than European Super league, no matter how it is called, it is a matter of football quality
If FIFA completely bans 12 team from joining the European Super League then the UCL competition will die. And PSG will be the next king of UCL.

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Crowning PSG without playing a single game of the finals?
Yeah, it doesn't make sense, but if we look at FIFA's firm stance on the team that joins ESL PSG will get the UCL title automatically without having to continue the competition.

Then when PSG switch stance and join that ESL, they will strip that title from them?
The possibility that FIFA will strip the UCL title from the hands of PSG, like FIFA pulled the Scudetto from Juventus when they got caught in a score-fixing case a few years ago.

This tournament must NOT happen or probobly the end for football itself. Kids always wish of winning the champions league and world cup and those greedy people are gone a take it away from them. Just greedy
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Its to show FIFA that they are dead serious about this. Its kinda like telling FIFA that they got nothing to lose even if they all decided to go with the ESL
As Florentino Perez said during an interview with El Chiringuito, "We have reached the conclusion that with the European Super League we can alleviate the club's losses." The European Super League will help the club recover financially in the midst of the pandemic. When the club has no income other than television broadcasting rights, Hopefully the European Super League can be the right medium to increase club income. Big team matches will be even more exciting allowing audiences around the world to watch the big clubs compete.



there is no way for fans to merit UEFA competition more than European Super league, no matter how it is called, it is a matter of football quality
If FIFA completely bans 12 team from joining the European Super League then the UCL competition will die. And PSG will be the next king of UCL.

Image is illustration only.



Crowning PSG without playing a single game of the finals?
Yeah, it doesn't make sense, but if we look at FIFA's firm stance on the team that joins ESL PSG will get the UCL title automatically without having to continue the competition.

Then when PSG switch stance and join that ESL, they will strip that title from them?
The possibility that FIFA will strip the UCL title from the hands of PSG, like FIFA pulled the Scudetto from Juventus when they got caught in a score-fixing case a few years ago.
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well then i am curious what will come out of this round of discussions... Roll Eyes

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LFC captain Jordan Henderson has reportedly called an emergency meeting between PremierLeague captains for tomorrow to discuss the proposed SuperLeague.
https://twitter.com/TMuk_news/status/1384502752802377731

Depends... From "strike" to bigger bank accounts... I mean this is a war and IMHO it's too early to conclude what can happen. The sure thing is that the only ones that are in favor are the 12 club owners, not the teams as a whole.
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The announcement of this new league obviously garnered a lot of negative reactions from fans and other leagues alike. I can't blame those teams who immediately signed up for this super league. Lots and lots of complaints about corruption and poor management have been arising from both FIFA and UEFA for years, and teams just want to get that new breath of fresh air and be motivated to play the game they love and make money from. I'm not much of a football fan but if the new league gives something to the fans and to the teams that weren't addressed by FIFA and UEFA for the last decade, then all's well that ends well.
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well then i am curious what will come out of this round of discussions... Roll Eyes

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LFC captain Jordan Henderson has reportedly called an emergency meeting between PremierLeague captains for tomorrow to discuss the proposed SuperLeague.
https://twitter.com/TMuk_news/status/1384502752802377731
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This is outside Stanford bridge where a protest is taking place before the game against Brighton tonight, the fans are calling on the club to do the rightful thing, the fans are totally against their team being part of the founding clubs of the European super league and they are asking the club to reconsider their decision of boycotting the league and champions league to play in the European super league. If Chelsea doesn't back down till Friday they will be disqualified from the champions league according to the UEFA chairman.


This is getting more serious than expected.
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As said Jesper Moller who is a member of the UEFA Executive Committee. UEFA will take strict sanctions for every club that follows the European Super League, and they will be banned from playing in all UEFA competitions.
The same sanctions also apply in the Europa League, MU and Arsenal are Super League club that still play in the Europa League.
This doesn't make sense. Crowning PSG without playing a single game of the finals? Then when PSG switch stance and join that ESL, they will strip that title from them?
I believe the ESL should take place between first 4 teams in CL + EL after few modifications of those 2 leagues.
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As said Jesper Moller who is a member of the UEFA Executive Committee. UEFA will take strict sanctions for every club that follows the European Super League, and they will be banned from playing in all UEFA competitions.
The same sanctions also apply in the Europa League, MU and Arsenal are Super League club that still play in the Europa League.

it would be simply unbelievable to see this happening, and on the other hand, it is the only chance for PSG to take the title Smiley
nevertheless, UEFA making this step will make football destined to basketball situation few years ago, with two FIBA Superleague and Euroleague, where it is clear who will win

there is no way for fans to merit UEFA competition more than European Super league, no matter how it is called, it is a matter of football quality
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Perez makes nonsense claims. How can he say young people are no longer interested in football
U think he was talking about the UEFA Champions League and he may be right, from the past two years the level of corruption has crippled the league, from the officiating down to the finances, participating clubs are being robbed, given a little amount while UEFA keep the big sum in their purse, the passion for the game was certainly fading.
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~Snip~
LOL you shouldn't dream too much like that, the kick off of the European Super League won't happen in the coming weeks and teams still belonging to the UEFA Champions League won't participate to it before the end of the tournament. They're not crazy, they won't take the risk to be banned from the final of the Champions League or the Europa League just for one or two starting matchdays in this totally new competition.

As said Jesper Moller who is a member of the UEFA Executive Committee. UEFA will take strict sanctions for every club that follows the European Super League, and they will be banned from playing in all UEFA competitions.
The same sanctions also apply in the Europa League, MU and Arsenal are Super League club that still play in the Europa League.
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Perez makes nonsense claims. How can he say young people are no longer interested in football when you can see the stands full of plastic fans for City? They made football attractive. Kids every day still play football and have their favorite jerseys on,,, world cup is still the most watched sporting event in the world.

Has he lost his bonkers?
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Interview with the ESL chairman Florentino Perez he talked about some major challenges, the goal, the reason behind the establishment of the league, he also talked about how they plan Football through ESL.

Perez on why the league was implemented
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Whenever there is a change, there are always people who oppose it. We are doing this to save football at this critical moment," Perez said on Spanish TV show El Chiringuito de Jugones.

"Audiences are decreasing and rights are decreasing and something had to be done. We are all ruined. Television has to change so we can adapt.

"Young people are no longer interested in football. Why not? Because there are a lot of poor quality games and they are not interested, they have other platforms on which to distract themselves."

Real Madrid are joined by La Liga rivals Barcelona and Atletico Madrid, as well as Premier League clubs Manchester United, Liverpool, Manchester City, Chelsea, Arsenal and Tottenham.
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