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Quote from: Lakai01 on April 19, 2021, 09:06:32 AM

I absolutely cannot imagine UEFA putting up with that. This would make competitions like the Euro League and the Champions League obsolete in one fell swoop.
I also find the composition of the Super League very "interesting", e.g. with Bayern and Paris SG 2 absolute top clubs in Europe are missing, instead teams would play here that would not even have realistic chances of winning a title in their national leagues - let alone in a Euro or Champions League.

In my opinion, the project is doomed to failure and will certainly not take place.

Another puritan view! ESL is just a repackaged and re-branded version of European club football games. The concept is very similar to what has been done in cricket as T20 or the famous IPL game. Now the time has come to football to make it more exciting.

Due to the covid situation, the stadium games are in the brink of collapse. The incomes from various endorsements are drying out. So the ESL is simply a survival strategy where people will be more interested and the money will start rolling. Be adaptable to changes brother!

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This impossible the UEFA cannot decide the fate of the players in the worldcup that's the work of FIFA and UEFA shouldn't cross the line in an attempt to put fear in the mind of the players, UEFA can only stop players from her continent from playing in the Euros and not the other way round.

How can they stop Messi from participating in the worldcup? Adidas is the biggest sponsor of the FIFA Worldcup while Messi is the biggest Adidas ambassador.

No Messi No Sponsor.

Quote from: Igebotz on April 19, 2021, 08:49:17 AM

The UEFA are totally against it and from his words as I quote;

Quote from: https://twitter.com/BarcaUniversal/status/1384125143933349895?s=19

"All players that play in the Super League will be banned from playing in Euros and the World Cup."

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Quote from: KTChampions on April 19, 2021, 02:58:03 PM

I believe that the future belongs to the Super League.

Its more like destroying the whole ecosystem. The current league system ensure that small teams will be getting some good amounts everytime they play against those big names which then help those small teams to build up their teams however the Super League is taking away all those big names thus destroying all those small teams as well

In the long run, its kinda like turning football into some sort of entertainment instead of sport

Quote from: Igebotz on April 19, 2021, 04:04:51 PM

I'm not against the project I'm not just comfortable the way the matter is being handled, the proposal is a good one but it came at the wrong time, why not wait till after the current campaign, now Chelsea, Rel Madrid, Man City, Manutd and Arsenal are set to get kickout of the the current UEFA competition.

Its to show FIFA that they are dead serious about this. Its kinda like telling FIFA that they got nothing to lose even if they all decided to go with the ESL

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Fans arent happy about this so i think this wont work
Americans trying to do what they done to their sports. This wont work

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Quote from: KTChampions on April 19, 2021, 02:58:03 PM

I hope this is the beginning of the end for vile organizations like FIFA and UEFA. Big football is a business and businessmen themselves should be engaged in it and not goats officials who are mired in corruption and, in fact, manage other people's money. I hope events will develop according to a tough scenario and clubs from the Super League will be banned everywhere (like the players) and they will leave FIFA and UEFA forever and thus we will get an independent normal organization. I believe that the future belongs to the Super League.

The Super League idea sounds pretty straightforward on paper. My major concern is if it would be able to live up to the promises. While I'm not too biggy on the Super League, I'm particularly glad that the reign and era of FIFA and UEFA is coming to an end. That's why they've been fighting very hard to put an end to the Super League before it even gets a chance to debut.

Quote from: acquafredda on April 19, 2021, 02:45:48 PM

From now on I will be supporting Bayern Munich!
Germany’s rules on fan ownership, known as 50%+1 for the voting stake which members must have, pose a problem for the Super League.
German fans could in theory block their clubs from being involved. Bayern was due to have its annual general meeting last week but it was postponed to the end of the year because of the coronavirus pandemic. Bayern members have a 75% stake in the company which runs the team. The rest is held by sponsors.
https://www.si.com/soccer/2021/04/19/european-super-league-psg-bayern-munich-borussia-dortmund

German fans would eventually gets on the bandwagon when they see that the Super league project is yet to stay and that it would be the biggest competition we've seen yet.

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Quote from: Saint-loup on April 19, 2021, 09:58:50 AM

I don't understand why you've opened this thread if you really think this so-called "project" will never take place? It sounds a little bit ridiculous.

I'm not against the project I'm not just comfortable the way the matter is being handled, the proposal is a good one but it came at the wrong time, why not wait till after the current campaign, now Chelsea, Rel Madrid, Man City, Manutd and Arsenal are set to get kickout of the the current UEFA competition.

Quote from: Trofo on April 19, 2021, 02:40:53 PM

I think I read somewhere that Dortmund and PSG already turned them down and that Bayern is expected to do the same.

Bayern Munich also turned down the offer, they love being on the farm land.

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I hope this is the beginning of the end for vile organizations like FIFA and UEFA. Big football is a business and businessmen themselves should be engaged in it and not goats officials who are mired in corruption and, in fact, manage other people's money. I hope events will develop according to a tough scenario and clubs from the Super League will be banned everywhere (like the players) and they will leave FIFA and UEFA forever and thus we will get an independent normal organization. I believe that the future belongs to the Super League.

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Quote from: LTU_btc on April 19, 2021, 02:18:32 PM

I'm disapoointed that my club Barcelona is part of it. "More than a club" they say, but they don't give a f*ck about supporters opinion, everything is just about money.

yeah, i wonder why they need more money rn, oh i know, terrible management for years and this: https://as.com/futbol/2021/01/30/primera/1612047093_780978.html

Quote from: LTU_btc on April 19, 2021, 02:18:32 PM

I'm a bit suprised that PSG will not join this league. But I really appreciate their, Bayern and Borussia position.

Nasser Al-Khelaifi, Qatar, FIFA and the World Cup 2022...ring any bells?
Bayern prolly knew the repercussion behind it and decided to stay put until everything gets sorted out, no way they'll miss out on the money behind a Super League, everything's about money when these big clubs are involved and Bayern will join if everyone reaches an agreement. Dortmund, no idea why they declined, maybe they know they won't stand a chance in a super league? lol

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From now on I will be supporting Bayern Munich!
Germany’s rules on fan ownership, known as 50%+1 for the voting stake which members must have, pose a problem for the Super League.
German fans could in theory block their clubs from being involved. Bayern was due to have its annual general meeting last week but it was postponed to the end of the year because of the coronavirus pandemic. Bayern members have a 75% stake in the company which runs the team. The rest is held by sponsors.
https://www.si.com/soccer/2021/04/19/european-super-league-psg-bayern-munich-borussia-dortmund

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Quote from: tyz on April 19, 2021, 02:23:33 PM

So, there are missing three teams. I would guess that these teams are Bayern Munich, Borussia Dormund and Paris St. Germain. That makes sense, because teams from two big countries missing from the Super League so far are Germany and France. In the medium term, it will be expanded to 18 or 20 teams anyway.

I think I read somewhere that Dortmund and PSG already turned them down and that Bayern is expected to do the same. Could be that they are doing that because of the supporters and their respective leagues or maybe they have their own reasons. We are living in exiting times for sure.

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So, there are missing three teams. I would guess that these teams are Bayern Munich, Borussia Dormund and Paris St. Germain. That makes sense, because teams from two big countries missing from the Super League so far are Germany and France. In the medium term, it will be expanded to 18 or 20 teams anyway.

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I still hope that SuperLeague won't turn into reality. I'm disapoointed that my club Barcelona is part of it. "More than a club" they say, but they don't give a f*ck about supporters opinion, everything is just about money. This is why I don't like modern football.
I'm a bit suprised that PSG will not join this league. But I really appreciate their, Bayern and Borussia position.

BTW, what are your thoughts about UEFA reaction and new Champions league format? For me it looks strange and I doubt it will stop teams from joining SuperLeague. And it will go ahead just in 2024, while SuperLeagueis supposed to begin this year.

Quote from: Trofo on April 19, 2021, 01:18:57 PM

By the way, we now have 6 new topics talking about ESL. Good job on checking the forum a bit before opening them Grin

Don't know which one was first, I posted in this one since it looked slightly better then most. Now we need one mod to come here and join them all together.

I noticed it too, gambling board look messy now. It would be nice if we discuss it in single topic.

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Quote from: Lorokan on April 19, 2021, 12:35:37 PM

The super league is not a scam lol; and it should not be compared to one.

Of course it is not a scam but it is blatant money grab to make rich even richer. Football should be played because of the supporters and situations like this one perfectly show it is only about the money. Really curios to see how it will all pan out.

By the way, we now have 6 new topics talking about ESL. Good job on checking the forum a bit before opening them Grin

Don't know which one was first, I posted in this one since it looked slightly better then most. Now we need one mod to come here and join them all together.

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Quote from: mamesso on April 19, 2021, 12:35:45 PM

The European Super League has been inaugurated. 12 teams have agreed, according to the Daily Mail Bayern Munchen and Porto will soon join the European Super League, it is hoped there will be 1 more team to participate before the first season starts, Florentino Perez will be President (LSE) with his deputy Joel Glazer from the Manchester United side.

With this inauguration, clubs participating in the European Super League face the threat of being expelled from competitions under UEFA, because this competition did not have the blessing of FIFA. UEFA confirmed that it will exclude teams participating in the European Super League and they are also prohibited from playing in UCL/UEL.
This statement is very beneficial for PSG, because Paris Saint-Germain will be crowned Champions of the Champions League this season for not participating in the European Super League participation, Teams that are still in the Champions League this season apart from Paris Saint-Germain will be automatically excluded from the Champions League.

FIFA also said that it would prohibit players from competing for the national team in the World Cup or other tournaments (under FIFA). UEFA will also demand the participating teams around 50-60 billion Euros.

LOL you shouldn't dream too much like that, the kick off of the European Super League won't happen in the coming weeks and teams still belonging to the UEFA Champions League won't participate to it before the end of the tournament. They're not crazy, they won't take the risk to be banned from the final of the Champions League or the Europa League just for one or two starting matchdays in this totally new competition.

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The European Super League has been inaugurated. 12 teams have agreed, according to the Daily Mail Bayern Munchen and Porto will soon join the European Super League, it is hoped there will be 1 more team to participate before the first season starts, Florentino Perez will be President (LSE) with his deputy Joel Glazer from the Manchester United side.

With this inauguration, clubs participating in the European Super League face the threat of being expelled from competitions under UEFA, because this competition did not have the blessing of FIFA. UEFA confirmed that it will exclude teams participating in the European Super League and they are also prohibited from playing in UCL/UEL.
This statement is very beneficial for PSG, because Paris Saint-Germain will be crowned Champions of the Champions League this season for not participating in the European Super League participation, Teams that are still in the Champions League this season apart from Paris Saint-Germain will be automatically excluded from the Champions League.

FIFA also said that it would prohibit players from competing for the national team in the World Cup or other tournaments (under FIFA). UEFA will also demand the participating teams around 50-60 billion Euros.

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Quote from: Soonandwaite on April 19, 2021, 12:03:06 PM

this super league is almost like all the scam sites on telegram and pancakeswap !!!! just to generate money. the clubs just want to earn more money.
i think it's good that some very good teams from europe boycott this super league. it's just too much football.
and then the champions league is to be extended from 32 to 36 teams.
then the teams will have less and less time and the players will hardly have time to regenerate.
i'm really curious to see how it all develops in the next few weeks and months.

The super league is not a scam lol; and it should not be compared to one. The reality meanwhile is that the super league is a greedy motive intended to fund only the pockets of the big teams selfishly; UEFA are also looking after only their pockets, which makes it very difficult for fans, supporters and the small teams. What do you think will happen ? will the clubside succumb authority to UEFA or have their way ?

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this super league is almost like all the scam sites on telegram and pancakeswap !!!! just to generate money. the clubs just want to earn more money.
i think it's good that some very good teams from europe boycott this super league. it's just too much football.
and then the champions league is to be extended from 32 to 36 teams.
then the teams will have less and less time and the players will hardly have time to regenerate.
i'm really curious to see how it all develops in the next few weeks and months.

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It might be early but let me say that I have a feeling for years now that something like this will happen but I never wanted to split away from UEFA but in the same I love to have a championship with all this giants playing every weekend. As a fan of football, I hope both UEFA and ESL will find a way to keep the players away so they won't be affected if they want to play in World Cup or similar international cups.

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here is a very nice overview of the clubs with their squad value that participate in the super league...
3 places are still free - should probably be given to german clubs, which then refused it...

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Quote from: Igebotz on April 19, 2021, 09:32:01 AM

Quote from: Lakai01 on April 19, 2021, 09:06:32 AM

In my opinion, the project is doomed to failure and will certainly not take place.

I think the project is just a wake up call for the UEFA to do more in terms of finance, because the money involved in the UEFA competition is very poor compared to that of the proposed super league.

I don't understand why you've opened this thread if you really think this so-called "project" will never take place? It sounds a little bit ridiculous. Personally I don't think it's just blackmail from big clubs to put pressure on UEFA, I think they really want to put on feet this new organization and I don't think FIFA or UEFA have the right to prohibit players from participating to their national selection, courts would surely reverse those kind of bans.

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