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Quote from: Mistafreeze on April 22, 2021, 09:01:38 AM

Perez told FIFA he want to create his World cup Grin

lol. That would be a nice achievement of his very successful career Tongue

Maybe one day we will see a world cup with Real Madrid and other big teams playing super international mixed league with big teams playing along with national teams Roll Eyes

I wouldn't be surprised to see something like that, there are now some political trauma going on within the board of directors and in the football games as a whole. Europa super league will be accepted to go with because on a serious note, it gonna bring interesting and fantastical football experience to fans. But don't know if this will be approved and implemented.

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Quote from: Mauser on April 22, 2021, 02:23:54 PM

At least someone who likes the Super League here

The problem behind it is that they want to make a lot of money with it, while on the other side don't have any competition. Both Real Madrid and Barcelona are the two big teams who promoted the ESL a lot and surprisingly both of these football clubs have a huge debt. Creating a new league with new TV rights to being sold to Sky or some other network they would make a lot of money. I am pretty sure that the games would never be shown on ordinary satellite TV. Gladly the Fans were able to stop it.

Sooner or later, the Super League will be created. Top clubs produce top content and they have to manage money. At the moment, only officials are in charge of the money - this is an absurd situation and I hope that she will be buried as soon as possible. And by the way, I don't understand those who want to watch a lot of dull matches with outsiders instead of interesting matches between great clubs.

I agree with you. Eventually, we will see this tournament happening. I also don't understand how people are content with watching big clubs playing against very small teams in many matches. I think we need a tournament that will consist only the biggest clubs. I would definitely enjoy watching it.

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Told you, it is not over yet.

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Boris Johnson met with Manchester United chief Ed Woodward in Downing Street days before European Super League launch

Source: https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/ed-woodward-boris-johnson-manchester-united-b1836076.html

Source: https://twitter.com/Independent/status/1385322955681542157

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Quote from: KTChampions on April 22, 2021, 04:02:37 PM

Sooner or later, the Super League will be created.

Exactly for the people who think it is over, you are a fool.
This is only the start of the war, The Superleague was an old Idea from Berlusconi in 1988.

Just for your information teams are still in the SL, till they will go to JP and sign and pay the exit clause they are still in.

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Quote from: Mauser on April 22, 2021, 02:23:54 PM

At least someone who likes the Super League here

The problem behind it is that they want to make a lot of money with it, while on the other side don't have any competition. Both Real Madrid and Barcelona are the two big teams who promoted the ESL a lot and surprisingly both of these football clubs have a huge debt. Creating a new league with new TV rights to being sold to Sky or some other network they would make a lot of money. I am pretty sure that the games would never be shown on ordinary satellite TV. Gladly the Fans were able to stop it.

Sooner or later, the Super League will be created. Top clubs produce top content and they have to manage money. At the moment, only officials are in charge of the money - this is an absurd situation and I hope that she will be buried as soon as possible. And by the way, I don't understand those who want to watch a lot of dull matches with outsiders instead of interesting matches between great clubs.

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Quote from: Mistafreeze on April 22, 2021, 09:01:38 AM

Perez told FIFA he want to create his World cup Grin

lol. That would be a nice achievement of his very successful career Tongue

Maybe one day we will see a world cup with Real Madrid and other big teams playing super international mixed league with big teams playing along with national teams Roll Eyes

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Quote from: yemight600 on April 21, 2021, 03:35:13 PM

Even though i want the SUPER LEAGUE to be a success for some reasons, however the negative effects cannot be over look. The proposal would have been better if the money involved is not that huge. And thanks to the SUPER LEAGUE ideal UEFA is able to change champions League from group stage to a real league now.

At least someone who likes the Super League here

The problem behind it is that they want to make a lot of money with it, while on the other side don't have any competition. Both Real Madrid and Barcelona are the two big teams who promoted the ESL a lot and surprisingly both of these football clubs have a huge debt. Creating a new league with new TV rights to being sold to Sky or some other network they would make a lot of money. I am pretty sure that the games would never be shown on ordinary satellite TV. Gladly the Fans were able to stop it.

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Quote from: xenon131 on April 22, 2021, 02:06:44 AM

Will those clubs get sanctions from such bodies as UEFA and FIFA?

I did not go into the details of the political feuds between the leaders of the Super League and FIFA/UEFA but .. but sport is just a political instrument. If you do not neglect the repeated tolerant statements of the presidents of international associations Gianni Infantino and Alexander Cheferin, then even an idiot can understand that this smells like double standards.

The co-founders of the Super League, by and large, do not care about the importance of this tournament, this is just a new opportunity for them to earn money, and given who is the main sponsor of this event, this is not surprising. But the leaders of FIFA and UEFA also made a mistake ... I understand that they do not want to give away some of the tasty pie, but the disqualification of teams looks like a change of democracy by anarchy.

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I received the news of the creation of ESL with misfiling; I think there are more politics in the European league than the ordinary fan may understand the club’s owner wants more money 💵 and the fans more fun I just hope FIFA will take a good stance on this power play.

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Quote from: yemight600 on April 21, 2021, 03:35:13 PM

Even though i want the SUPER LEAGUE to be a success for some reasons, however the negative effects cannot be over look. The proposal would have been better if the money involved is not that huge. And thanks to the SUPER LEAGUE ideal UEFA is able to change champions League from group stage to a real league now.

There are no plans by UEFA to change the Champions League that way that you have a "real league". UEFA just plans to increase the teams attend in the competition, but then it will be more like a European League instead of a Champions League if you let attend two or third class teams just to make more money. So, the new CL is not better than the Super League.

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Perez followed up and he really needs better PR advisors. Their Sunday announcement was ill advised. And now his response post abortive first attempt equally ineffective, if not harmful to his cause.

At the same time he does bring up fair points. Young people are watching less football, or rather, no longer watching clubs they were brought up in.

But he is wrong to think ESL will fix that. It was to some extent the era of galacticos that moulded youth to only want to see superstars on superstages. You help build the monster, now help heal it, not just feed it.

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Quote from: blue Snow on April 22, 2021, 02:30:37 AM

I got my post on another topic about ESL on the gambling board then that topic going moved to off topic. Yeah, They know (moderator either) this game wouldn't happen in the future, no one talk about gambling/games/football on the ESL, this just about a greedy person who wants to more eat sponsor of money. Grin

Poor thread created by a newbie is not qualified to be in the gambling section and besides we cannot have more than one ESL thread in one section. Ighehh is a reputable forum user and this thread is just okay.

Perez told FIFA he want to create his World cup Grin

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I just read that florentino perez said that the plans for an european super league are not dead, they are just at stand-by for now. So he has not given up on that subject yet even though at the moment it seems like his dreams will never become a reality. Like i said before i would welcome some competition for the UEFA, so they have to be more transparent and must stop to behave like they are the kings of football and can do whatever they want.

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I got my post on another topic about ESL on the gambling board then that topic going moved to off topic. Yeah, They know (moderator either) this game wouldn't happen in the future, no one talk about gambling/games/football on the ESL, this just about a greedy person who wants to more eat sponsor of money. Grin

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Quote from: Mistafreeze on April 22, 2021, 01:51:35 AM

Quote from: Spack17 on April 21, 2021, 06:28:33 PM

Nearly all of the founder clubs have left the ESL till now. But I believe this was a signal for a probable big change in the future. Maybe it hasn't happened yet but it will I think.

Rome was not built in a day, Michael faraday did not invent electricity in a day, Satoshi did not invent Bitcoin in a day, everything with good intentions takes time to implement, the ESL was a wake-up call to FIFA and UEFA that yes both organisations are replaceable if they are not doing their job properly. Perez is a legend

I also like the idea of ESL to break the monopolistic ways of UEFA and FIFA if not for the sanctions against players involved being banned playing in world cup in their countries and leagues my take is that if their is no clashes of fixtures between ESL with other matches then there is no reason to ban it, ESL matches are scheduled to be played in midweek clubs involved are seeking more ways to generate funds in the midst of consequences of the impact of Covid-19.

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Quote from: judas on April 21, 2021, 04:28:20 PM

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/56830308

According to news, Milan, Inter and Atletico Madrid have joined the English clubs which have withdrawn from the ESL too. And Agnelli says that this project can't go on like this and he is very right about it of course. There are only 3 clubs left in the tournament and it will be revoked probably.

This development shocked me a lot. I heard the news first watching CNN channel and didn't believe it . Their decision is a blow to all fans of Italian and English clubs (me including) who have always had the joy watching their ESL clashes. Will those clubs get sanctions from such bodies as UEFA and FIFA?

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Quote from: Spack17 on April 21, 2021, 06:28:33 PM

Nearly all of the founder clubs have left the ESL till now. But I believe this was a signal for a probable big change in the future. Maybe it hasn't happened yet but it will I think.

Rome was not built in a day, Michael faraday did not invent electricity in a day, Satoshi did not invent Bitcoin in a day, everything with good intentions takes time to implement, the ESL was a wake-up call to FIFA and UEFA that yes both organisations are replaceable if they are not doing their job properly. Perez is a legend

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The European Super League have ended without beginning after all club participants resign and only Real Madrid and Barcelona left, I think many club afraid with announcement banned by UEFA and FIFA but they not understand how financial most guarantee with The European Super League. But this now ended with Real Madrid and Barcelona left right now.

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Nearly all of the founder clubs have left the ESL till now. But I believe this was a signal for a probable big change in the future. Maybe it hasn't happened yet but it will I think.

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Quote from: Theb on April 21, 2021, 11:49:45 AM

According to the news 9 out of the 12 teams who joined the ESL have withdrawn from the league leaving only Barcelona, Juventus, and Real Madrid still part of the team.

if the Juventus chairman Mr Andrea Agnelli said the European Super League wasnt going to happen that means Juventus is out too meaning Barca and Real Madrid are all what are left...lets call this El clasico Super league Tongue

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Quote from: Theb on April 21, 2021, 11:49:45 AM

I'm guessing that they realized with all the negative press they are getting as well as their own fans being angry about it they won't be gaining any kind of revenue if nobody will be watching and supporting their games. Since from the start they have a lose-lose situation here without any kind of notice and a totally opposite direction from the football we love this is something that these clubs can't be handling.

You have to give these guys some credit, they really tried because looking at those debt numbers you really have to go out of your way to find the means to pay back.

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