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legendary
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August 30, 2021, 06:18:13 AM
#46
This guy is such a lying scumbag and he is digging deeper hole for himself with every new post he makes from all of his puppet accounts.
The plot thickens and we missed some fun times in forum so I wonder when are we going to see new movie coming up called ''Banning of all Rainbow's alts''?

I don’t want to explain too much, I want to focus on my banned appeal.rainbowcitydao is my abandoned account. I haven't logged in for about two months.
Dude, give it up already, you are banned, in jail and there will be no mercy for you in mao zedong style, because people in bitcointalk forum are not stupid.
Try finding some other place for your fake promotion and stop wasting your time here.

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August 30, 2021, 04:23:50 AM
#45
Join&PROOF OF AUTHENTICATION## [/b][/color]
Bitcointalk Username: RainbowcityDAO
bitcointalk profile link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile
Twitter url:  https://twitter.com/kxWHALExk
Twitter audit : https://www.twitteraudit.com/kxwhalexk
Facebook URL: https://www.facebook.com/eric./
Telegram Username : @TheKXXkxx
BSC Wallet Address: 0x6E609a6E3a51437A91c9D551E292dB06a1FC5c28

In the next two to three months, I will officially launch a blockchain DAO project, which I call Rainbow City.

Name of campaign:Telegram
BTT username:RainbowcityDAO
Link to BTT profile:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile
Telegram username: @RainbowcityFinance

I can imagine a sophisticated account attack where someone were trying to discredit another user using impersonation and then bad practices, so do think that it's important to be cautious in more than one way. However, I owe @Ratimov an apology.

It should be noted that the profile of @kxwhalexk was created on 09 June 2021: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/kxwhalexk-3339476
which was a month following the the post by RainbowCityDAO, who also used RainbowCityFinance and included the kxwhalexk twitter handle in their post on 01 May 2021 (linked to by @nutildah and @YOSHIE).

Those precede the use of RainbowCityKun's account -- created 10 Sep 2020, but first posted in July 2021:
Eric, aka @kxwhalexk aka @RainbowcityDAO as above, posted on his facebook profile which he linked the "Bitcoin is a new civilization" on 01 July 2021 by linking to a reddit post by reddit user 7RainbowCity: https://www.reddit.com/r/Rainbowcity/comments/obhs04/bitcoin_is_not_just_a_currency_but_represents_a/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
This topic was posted to reddit on the same day as the same topic on this forum by @RainbowKun, 01 July 2021 https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcoin-is-not-just-a-currency-but-represents-a-new-human-civilization-5346930
While RainbowKun was registered many months before DAO, Kun's first post on this forum was that post on 01 July 2021.

There is still a 0.1% chance of my initial sentence, but 0.1% is not much.

Damn it. =/

kxwhalexk, I advise you to stop creating multiple accounts. That you linked to your real name and facebook account (I assume) might mean that you have some degree of naivete and innocence, and perhaps actual belief in the ideology of bitcoin. Contrary to that, since it appears that you created multiple accounts to support a single one, you should know that is poor behavior and can only discredit you. You would get much further here with a solid, single account that contributes to the forum.

This post was particularly bad form:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.57569855
legendary
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August 30, 2021, 04:06:13 AM
#44
I've been watching this topic on Reputation & Meta for 3 days, this is the first time I'm dizzy, my eyes are red when I read everything here.

@nutildah, I thumbs up, every day there is something that makes the suspect cornered.

@nutildah, this is his Twitter name: @RainbowcityKun, how come it's the same as the account name you posted, maybe, maybe, by chance.....!




Now, I continue to share, if you want to communicate more with me, you can follow me on twitter: https://twitter.com/RainbowcityKun
 I will also follow you, and I will post some more refined views on twitter in the future.


https://archive.vn/wip/as0XO

What can be said between @RainbowKun & @kxwhalexk, is it possible that they are the same person, in terms of Twitter names, 90% can be said so, Did i miss something.


Telegram is also the same, city
Name of campaign:Telegram
BTT username:RainbowcityDAO
Link to BTT profile:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile
Telegram username: @RainbowcityFinance
legendary
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August 30, 2021, 12:40:40 AM
#43
Why aren't you and kxwhalexk the same person again?

I'm sure Jazmin and Ghoul will explain it to you shortly.
legendary
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August 30, 2021, 12:25:55 AM
#42
OK let's address some of these misconceptions you seem to hold about the motivation behind our actions.

During this attack on me, @kxwhalexk was involved. He came to the forum in the past few months and achieved excellent results.

I would not consider his posts to be "excellent;" as a matter of fact I reported a few of them as spam and they were deleted. His posts looked forced, like they were translated from a foreign language article, and frequently parts of them made no sense in English.

As a result, he was regarded as my alt account because the account was blocked for the first post it posted.

No, he was regarded as your alt account because you have a similar posting style.

Why didn’t you close his account on the first day? But after he has worked so hard to create value for the forum for three months and then banned him because of his posts on the first day?

He didn't actually "create value" for the forum. That is just your opinion.

Isn't this banning potential newcomers because they are involved in the struggle?

No. You know full well kxwhalexk was banned for plagiarism. And it wasn't just a one-time thing -- he had done it multiple times.

Speaking of kxwhalexk, is this his Twitter handle?



Because that address has been used on the forum before:

Join&PROOF OF AUTHENTICATION## [/b][/color]
Bitcointalk Username: RainbowcityDAO
bitcointalk profile link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile
Twitter url:  https://twitter.com/kxWHALExk
Twitter audit : https://www.twitteraudit.com/kxwhalexk
Facebook URL: https://www.facebook.com/eric.thek/
Telegram Username : @TheKXXkxx
BSC Wallet Address: 0x6E609a6E3a51437A91c9D551E292dB06a1FC5c28

In the next two to three months, I will officially launch a blockchain DAO project, which I call Rainbow City.

So, uh... I guess the only question I have left is:

Why aren't you and kxwhalexk the same person again?
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August 28, 2021, 07:32:14 PM
#41

Newbies are always under scrutiny since in the history of the forum it was they who were scammers, cheaters, etc. The forum is familiar with deception, therefore, "once you get burned on milk you blow on water"


So stop building drama.

" I have now cancelled the bad words in this post.


Would you feel angry if you were in this position? Still, it doesn't matter, I can register another account."



Bitcoin is certainly worthy---so focus on bitcoin.

"peaceful coexistence" doesn't include calling other forum members "scumbags".

"is this the culture forum? A culture of bullying newbies"

Most of us have been newbies and somehow made it through.

I'm a long time member of quite a few forums---I read more than I post on most of them.
I'm also a member of a couple scooter forums----I love motorcycles AND scooters. I grew up around bikers (the type that some may consider "hardcore") and let me tell you...
 those scooter forums can get friggen' ruthless.


_Miracle, hello, I have removed that word now. In the text above, I have described my mental state. I came to bitcointalk with a very sacred attitude. I hope to work with my friends here to promote the idea of Bitcoin and the spirit of Bitcoin. Therefore, I spent a lot of time and energy trying to write and reply to articles every day. To perfect my philosophical thinking about Bitcoin, I have slowly accumulated a certain reputation. However, I was slandered suddenly, saying that I was a big liar and abused the forum's merits. I am really very angry. I feel very disappointed here too. Maybe it was because I thought this place was too bright at the beginning, and I didn't expect the coldness and darkness here. After this incident, I will slowly adapt to the environment in the future. In any case, I am the most loyal fan of Bitcoin.



This is only a personal opinion and just as many people will disagree with me on this:
Erasing a bad thing you said (like it never happened) is not as good as leaving it up, apologizing for it, moving forward and never doing it again.

But the following advice is pretty standard and you are not so much of a "newbie" that you don't know better than not to do this...

You're going to register an ALT account?
That's not going to go well----and isn't it part of the thing you're being accused of doing?



Few people want to scroll through your threads of disputes.
If you have something to contribute then do it. If you are making claims to some accomplishment in TRW (the real world) then prepare to prove it or be called out on it.

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August 28, 2021, 07:44:05 AM
#40
The forum has come a long way and newcomers have always been and will be different. Fraud detectives have also been and will be. If you check old themes, you will be surprised that one person can own a farm with hundreds of alternative accounts.
Newbies are always under scrutiny since in the history of the forum it was they who were scammers, cheaters, etc. The forum is familiar with deception, therefore, "once you get burned on milk you blow on water"
For example, here are a few past topics where dozens of newbie accounts were exposed, abuse of transfer of merit, and more.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.49708048
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.46990586
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.47498423

So stop building drama. The insults that you say about Ratimov are much rougher than what he laid out against you. Are you inviolable?
On the contrary, I was surprised by Ratimov's good nature, with which he generously distributes merit to newcomers, who later went into the ban. And then we see an experienced The Pharmacist looking suspiciously at newcomers. Since the proverb about milk fits here too. Smiley

lovesmayfamilis, I have always respected anyone in the forum, including you, and we have also had some exchanges in the article. I have now cancelled the bad words in this post.But this time I think you are too partial to Ratimov, you did not consider the problem from the perspective of me or a newcomer. At the same time, you are not a victim of this incident, so you cannot understand how the victim feels, how angry the victim is.

For example, to change you to my position, think about it in another way. You have just come to the forum for more than a month. You spend a lot of energy writing articles here every day, publishing an original article every day, and then spending a lot of energy communicating with friends who reply to the article. Gradually you have accumulated a certain reputation in the forum. Then, suddenly one day, a person ran out. He spent 8 days fabricating various data, and finally told everyone loudly: lovesmayfamilis, you are a big liar, you have formed an alt army, you are embezzling the forum Merit, you are deceiving the forum's assets. Then dozens of people swarmed up. This is a big liar, kill him. Then everyone takes a magnifying glass to check each of your posts, verify whether each sentence is plagiarized, and then if there is a sentence that is consistent with the one on the Internet, immediately say that this is a plagiarism, report to the administrator, and put its account Sealed.

Then there are various ways to chase, intercept, and want to kill this account. Isn't this the attack I have encountered in the past two days?

Through this post, the attacker generated a huge sensation, gained more than 50 merits, and gained praise from countless people on the forum. However, I became a liar that everyone shouted and beaten for no reason.

Would you feel angry if you were in this position? Still, it doesn't matter, I can register another account.

During this attack on me, @kxwhalexk was involved. He came to the forum in the past few months and achieved excellent results. As a result, he was regarded as my alt account because the account was blocked for the first post it posted. Why didn’t you close his account on the first day? But after he has worked so hard to create value for the forum for three months and then banned him because of his posts on the first day? Isn't this banning potential newcomers because they are involved in the struggle?

This is the hard work he has achieved in the past three months, but he got involved because of others attacking me. If you stand on my side, won't you be angry in your heart? Are you not disappointed in the forum? Such an excellent newcomer was directly banned because of the attack?

This is why I am complaining here, why the old people of the forum should do everything in their power to suppress the potential newcomers in the forum. This is why I am so disappointed this time. But in the future, I will try my best to adapt to the culture here, because I am a big fan of Bitcoin.



Bitcoin is certainly worthy---so focus on bitcoin.

"peaceful coexistence" doesn't include calling other forum members "scumbags".

"is this the culture forum? A culture of bullying newbies"

Most of us have been newbies and somehow made it through.

I'm a long time member of quite a few forums---I read more than I post on most of them.
I'm also a member of a couple scooter forums----I love motorcycles AND scooters. I grew up around bikers (the type that some may consider "hardcore") and let me tell you...
 those scooter forums can get friggen' ruthless.


_Miracle, hello, I have removed that word now. In the text above, I have described my mental state. I came to bitcointalk with a very sacred attitude. I hope to work with my friends here to promote the idea of Bitcoin and the spirit of Bitcoin. Therefore, I spent a lot of time and energy trying to write and reply to articles every day. To perfect my philosophical thinking about Bitcoin, I have slowly accumulated a certain reputation. However, I was slandered suddenly, saying that I was a big liar and abused the forum's merits. I am really very angry. I feel very disappointed here too. Maybe it was because I thought this place was too bright at the beginning, and I didn't expect the coldness and darkness here. After this incident, I will slowly adapt to the environment in the future. In any case, I am the most loyal fan of Bitcoin.


To respond to OP title:
Newbie status in the forum does not always reflect that the person behind the account is actually a beginner, especially in this forum. Some ways of writing beginners can be identified that they are actually old members of the forum, or several accounts belonging to one person. So, basically can't be sure whether the newbie account is personally owned by the newbie. That's why there's no difference in privilege between the ranks to be suspect.

To respond to OP accusation.
Because after all sMerit is valuable, and very regrettable if distributed to the wrong people (if proven). You are not constrained to deny accusations as best you can with honest evidence. Sometimes there are things that are impossible to prove because of a principle (eg anonymity) and your evidence can be rejected by some members (perhaps subjectively judged). The final judgment is based on the point of view of each member and the fact that some people don't care about one's reputation.

By the way, will these accusations (account farming) prevent you from writing articles? And after all you write articles for everyone, right? I think this kind of accusation is only disturbing if the accused has a business.


Hello, noorman0, thanks for your suggestions. What I want to express here is that although I have given some sMerit to some novices, more of the sMerit are given to higher-level people. At the same time, although I gave it to some novices, I was serious and responsible for every sMerit I sent out. Because they all created effective and valuable comments and conducted various valuable exchanges. I will also organize these comments one after another for everyone to see. Let everyone see if I am sending merits to some spam replies. All my merit records are open and transparent.

Similarly, I write articles and exchanges here every day in order to accumulate my reputation and become friends with more users in the forum. Various businesses will happen in the future. So, when others directly slandered me as a liar, I was very angry.

But no matter what, after this incident, I will continue to write and share my in-depth thinking about Bitcoin. I hope that more friends can share my articles and share the ideas of Bitcoin, because my articles are for everyone in the forum.



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August 28, 2021, 07:33:23 AM
#39
You are making the situation more worst. This isn't the right approach to defend yourself. It's a general behavior to creating a thread once we notice something suspicious. Suspicious means perhaps there is something wrong and not yet well-proven. So you may defend and explain it.

I am wondering why are you questioning forum culture? As far as I can see this forum is enough friendly for newbies. But yes, the forum isn't enough friendly for abusers and spammers. I am always quite soft with newbies and I notice most established users are soft as well. There will be always different thoughts, but for a few people, we shouldn't judge overall forum culture anyway.

Don't be aggressive by creating a lot of threads on the same topic. You weren't tagged nor even a single neutral tag I found on your profile. So please handle with care whatever issue you are facing.

Maybe someone can point out to me what was actually suspicious.
The post that RainbowKun linked to had no strong evidence against him, and even admits to that in the first post, other than proving that a subset of users are in China -- and using China as the argument to discredit them. And that some new users give out some of their merits to him, which isn't entirely unexpectable.

It looks like the search for plagiarism against RainbowKun was a witchhunt to get him banned, considering it looks like he posted evidence just now that he indeed authored posts that were claimed to be plagiazisms.

So, what's up?
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August 28, 2021, 05:02:08 AM
#38
I published articles in many media at that time, and some accounts are no longer available.

This is my account on a Chinese encrypted social media, bihu. This link is the article nutildah another searched for. This is the link from that year.This is the link from that year.

https://bihu.com/article/1285422


This is the introduction of my personal homepage, I have put the sentence "I am RainbowKun on Bitcointalk" on it, you can check it.
https://bihu.com/people/159860


If you're the original author of this article, it shouldn't be so hard to prove. I can't read the site, but if you're the author, can you just add a link saying something like: "I published this article in English on Bitcointalk, using the name RainbowKun". That would add a lot of credibility to your story.
I did this in my media as you wanted, and I posted a short article。
https://m.bihu.com/shortContent/1105603687?i=1CCcaQ&c=2&s=1cP01x
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August 28, 2021, 04:44:17 AM
#37

And leaving negative trust because you were "angry"  about something someone posted is really bad form.

Trust is for transactions.

Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ   *it is at the top of this section
                                                      https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/unofficial-list-of-official-bitcointalkorg-rules-guidelines-faq-703657



Marketplace trust                                                       
                                                      https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/marketplace-trust-211858

@The Ghoul, while it's understandable that you're angry when someone throws an accusation/ allegation against you, it's not advisable to leave a negative tag/ feedback. Tags are meant for scammers or users that are suspected to be involved in dishonest activities as highlighted by Miracle.
legendary
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August 28, 2021, 04:01:56 AM
#36
Yes, you did a great job and searched for my article written in Chinese in 2018. I am the original author Kun Yuan
If you're the original author of this article, it shouldn't be so hard to prove. I can't read the site, but if you're the author, can you just add a link saying something like: "I published this article in English on Bitcointalk, using the name RainbowKun". That would add a lot of credibility to your story.
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August 28, 2021, 03:57:35 AM
#35
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Because I was really angry at the time, and of course that was the first time I used the trust function. If Rainbowkun’s matter is resolved, I will automatically delete his negative trust.

I don't want to hurt anyone for no reason.


And leaving negative trust because you were "angry"  about something someone posted is really bad form.

Trust is for transactions.

Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ   *it is at the top of this section
                                                      https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/unofficial-list-of-official-bitcointalkorg-rules-guidelines-faq-703657



Marketplace trust                                                       
                                                      https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/marketplace-trust-211858
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August 28, 2021, 03:26:46 AM
#34
Download a wechat.

How does wechat solve anything? You could easily sockpuppet multiple chats.
The link to the Chinese article mentioned by nutildah above is an article from 2018. Below the article is the author’s contact information: the WeChat QR code.
Just contact him and let him prove that he is rainbowkun.I tried to do this, but there is no response at the moment.

What does "sockpuppet" mean? Is it a technical term?



Suchmoon is really good at explaining their responses so it won't be long for that.


I think you guys are really new to "western internet" and it can be rough online in the free world. 

This site is tame compared to other places but they are not going to moderate every dispute:
You are going to have to learn how to moderate your own behavior and how to use the ignore feature.
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August 28, 2021, 03:19:06 AM
#33

What does "sockpuppet" mean? Is it a technical term?


Sockpuppet means someone creating a few accounts to talk to one another, making it seem like they are all by different person.
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August 28, 2021, 03:15:32 AM
#32
Download a wechat.

How does wechat solve anything? You could easily sockpuppet multiple chats.
The link to the Chinese article mentioned by nutildah above is an article from 2018. Below the article is the author’s contact information: the WeChat QR code.
Just contact him and let him prove that he is rainbowkun.I tried to do this, but there is no response at the moment.

What does "sockpuppet" mean? Is it a technical term?

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August 28, 2021, 02:39:50 AM
#31

I think he called him "scumbags" to the person who said he was a liar when he was very angry. Of course, Ratimov also said it when he was angry, but the scum and the liar are still human, just not What a good word.

Yes I would call that the start of a potential flame war.

*and you have completely missed the irony in my prior post

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August 28, 2021, 02:22:43 AM
#30
Download a wechat.

How does wechat solve anything? You could easily sockpuppet multiple chats.
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August 28, 2021, 02:10:31 AM
#29
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Bitcoin is certainly worthy---so focus on bitcoin.

"peaceful coexistence" doesn't include calling other forum members "scumbags".


"is this the culture forum? A culture of bullying newbies"

Most of us have been newbies and somehow made it through.



I'm a long time member of quite a few forums---I read more than I post on most of them.
I'm also a member of a couple scooter forums----I love motorcycles AND scooters. I grew up around bikers (the type that some may consider "hardcore") and let me tell you...
 those scooter forums can get friggen' ruthless.


I think he called him "scumbags" to the person who said he was a liar when he was very angry. Of course, Ratimov also said it when he was angry, but the scum and the liar are still human, just not What a good word.
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August 28, 2021, 01:40:42 AM
#28
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Because I was really angry at the time, and of course that was the first time I used the trust function. If Rainbowkun’s matter is resolved, I will automatically delete his negative trust.

I don't want to hurt anyone for no reason.
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August 28, 2021, 12:22:16 AM
#27
Yes, they gave me another tag.. I think I have to go to Ratimov’s post to explain....

I don't see any tag on your account, but you sent a negative one to Timelord over him calling you out though...
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