Topic: The forum culture is to kill all newbies? - page 3. (Read 1279 times)

To respond to OP title:
Newbie status in the forum does not always reflect that the person behind the account is actually a beginner, especially in this forum. Some ways of writing beginners can be identified that they are actually old members of the forum, or several accounts belonging to one person. So, basically can't be sure whether the newbie account is personally owned by the newbie. That's why there's no difference in privilege between the ranks to be suspect.

To respond to OP accusation.
Because after all sMerit is valuable, and very regrettable if distributed to the wrong people (if proven). You are not constrained to deny accusations as best you can with honest evidence. Sometimes there are things that are impossible to prove because of a principle (eg anonymity) and your evidence can be rejected by some members (perhaps subjectively judged). The final judgment is based on the point of view of each member and the fact that some people don't care about one's reputation.

By the way, will these accusations (account farming) prevent you from writing articles? And after all you write articles for everyone, right? I think this kind of accusation is only disturbing if the accused has a business.

Bitcoin is certainly worthy---so focus on bitcoin.

"peaceful coexistence" doesn't include calling other forum members "scumbags".


"is this the culture forum? A culture of bullying newbies"

Most of us have been newbies and somehow made it through.



I'm a long time member of quite a few forums---I read more than I post on most of them.
I'm also a member of a couple scooter forums----I love motorcycles AND scooters. I grew up around bikers (the type that some may consider "hardcore") and let me tell you...
 those scooter forums can get friggen' ruthless.

I have sent you a PM and changed one of my social media introduction information according to your requirements. Please check it.

There is a QR code at the bottom of the article. I think you can add what you said "KUNYUAN" as a contact to verify if it is the original author. Download a wechat. Why don't you investigate further since this step has been investigated?

I just added KUNYUAN, but no response so far.

I desperately need Rainbowkun to prove himself. This way I can get rid of the alt tags imposed on me.

I tried to reply to that article by Ratimov, but I gave up. That post is too confusing. But ratimov mentioned my name again today, accusing me and them of using the same image conversion website.


https://sm.ms

This website is my most frequently used website. Yes, I am Chinese. If you search for "图片转换成链接" in google. sm.ms is the first few searches in google.



Yes, they gave me another tag.. I think I have to go to Ratimov’s post to explain....

Thank you for asking this question. First of all, this is just a sentence on the Triffin Dilemma in the wiki, an introductory sentence. What problem does the Triffin Dilemma solve? You can read my entire article. This sentence is just a declarative language that belongs to the Triffin Dilemma. The point of view in my entire article is to interpret the Bitcoin problem from the perspective of the Triffin Dilemma, and look forward to the future development direction of Bitcoin. From Triffin Dilemma, I interpret that a super-sovereign currency must appear to solve the problems of the current world monetary system. In the future, Bitcoin can definitely grow into a super-sovereign currency.

Here, the Triffin Dilemma is a known historical event and common sense of economics. Anyone with a background in economics can know exactly what the Triffin Dilemma is. This is common sense knowledge. Therefore, this article is also an introduction to common sense knowledge.


For example, I said some introductions of Newton:

In his paper "The Laws of Nature" published in 1687, Newton described universal gravitation and the three laws of motion. These descriptions laid the scientific view of the physical world for the next three centuries and became the foundation of modern engineering.

This is also common-sense physics knowledge. If I put this sentence in my article, is it also plagiarism?

I hope everyone can read my entire article carefully to see what point of view this article expresses, whether this point of view is reasonable, and whether you agree or disagree. Rather than chase and intercept from here, take out every single sentence to see if there is exactly the same description, and then complain about plagiarism.

What I hope to do more with you is the exchange of academics and ideas.





I just saw this message you sent, let me edit it again. First of all, I am Kun Yuan himself. The article you posted was published by me in 2018. However, I am not the Senior Algorithm Engineer for Alibaba Group and Google Scholar you mentioned, this person is not me. I also don't have a LinkedIn account. But I can try to use other methods to verify my identity. I also sincerely hope that you can read every one of my articles to understand what kind of person I am.

Mr. Kun, without trying to invade your personal privacy any further, could you perhaps just add a line to your LinkedIn page that says "I am RainbowKun on Bitcointalk"? You could place it in the About section, for one day.

If you can do this, just as a temporary measure to prove your identity, I will personally apologize to you for calling you a liar and a cheater.

You are making the situation more worst. This isn't the right approach to defend yourself. It's a general behavior to creating a thread once we notice something suspicious. Suspicious means perhaps there is something wrong and not yet well-proven. So you may defend and explain it.

I am wondering why are you questioning forum culture? As far as I can see this forum is enough friendly for newbies. But yes, the forum isn't enough friendly for abusers and spammers. I am always quite soft with newbies and I notice most established users are soft as well. There will be always different thoughts, but for a few people, we shouldn't judge overall forum culture anyway.

Don't be aggressive by creating a lot of threads on the same topic. You weren't tagged nor even a single neutral tag I found on your profile. So please handle with care whatever issue you are facing.

I would like to know what is going on in this article about Kun Yuan? Is there any connection between RainbowKun and Kun Yuan?

I have extreme doubts about this. Why would you text spin your own article? Why not just say you were this person from the beginning? You have also taken excerpts from articles that are clearly not yours.


Here is the original:



Did you also write this wiki article? 

Yes, you did a great job and searched for my article written in Chinese in 2018. I am the original author Kun Yuan, and I am also from China. Later, I will introduce my resume in the crypto world. My energy is mainly used in writing and the design and development of smart contracts. You can't frame me for forming a Merit Corps and abuse Merit just because I am a Chinese. If I can see the face of a Chinese on the forum, I feel very cordial. I believe that if you find the faces of your country on the forum, you will also feel very cordial. I will introduce my experience in detail later.

The problem is you. You're a liar and a cheater. It is you who is cheapening the value of the forum by flooding it with plagiarized and spun text that you claim to be original thought (it is not).

For example, your topic

Bitcoin, switcher for mankind from Carbon-based to Silicon-based civilization

is almost a word-for-word translation of this article:

``Kunyuan Original Serial 6'' blockchain is a switch for human beings to evolve from carbon-based to silicon-based civilization

This article is three years old and I don't believe you are the original author. For example,




So... let me guess what you're going to say next: you are actually Kun Yuan, Senior Algorithm Engineer for Alibaba Group and Google Scholar, right?

I was astonished to see two of his threads on the reputation board, and now another here on meta, all pointing and repeating the same issue. I won't be surprised if I see another one on B&H tomorrow or next.



If Satoshi were still alive, the forum would be more strict than it is now. There would be no signatures or bounties, and all discussions would be about bitcoin and technical issues, so there would be no drama. The introduction of signatures, bounties, merit, and the trust system added a lot of drama to the forum, and the only way to survive is to develop a thicker skin, or you'll get kicked off. Nobody here cares about your feelings; just your deeds are important.

If you look closely at the reputation board, you'll notice a lot of drama, lies, and accusations amongst both reputable members and Newbies, indicating that no rank is immune to scrutiny or research, which is the beauty of the forum.

OP, go to your profile and check the amount of merit you have received so far. Are you sure this forum has a culture of killing all newbies?
Go to this thread and I believe you should change your thread title to be more specific. [TOP-200] Members who support newbies - Thanks!. Even the real Ratimov accuses you, include of being one of the most helpful users for newbie to develop with merit and I see it has helped 523/ August 13, 2021.

I firmly believe that newbie are the most important part of the bitcointalk forum apart from we had millions of high rank users before. Nothing will harm newbie if they don't break the rules like spam posting, palagiarism, abuse of merit, abuse of campaigns. They will have to take responsibility for their own actions, they will be ignored and others will be tagged.

It's good that you are responding constructively to the accusation by Ratimov. But why are you creating so many threads here and there? You have created two threads in reputation and one more here in meta. Couldn't you create one thread and share your arguments in the same thread? It would be of more benefit for you to have all the points presented to the community.

Yes, the 2 words I added later

Did I miss something in your post?  How is what I wrote in contradiction to what you wrote?  I'm saying the forum isn't prejudiced against newbies--and I also like newcomers who aren't spammers (though as I said, that's the exception rather than the rule). 

It's actually the opposite (of prejudice): I like seeing new users who aren't spammers, it's what both Bitcoin and the forum need to grow.

Seriously.  OP is just aggravated that he got caught up in the alt account ring that he's suspected of being a member of--and for good reason IMO.  The fact is that if the forum in general were prejudiced against newbies, OP wouldn't have been able to earn all of those merits he did, nor would all of those other new accounts involved in the alt ring.  It's only after the merit-givers think they've been hoodwinked that there's any blowback, which is what OP is now seeing.

That's true IMO, and as soon as I start to let my guard down as far as handing out merits to newcomers, shit like this happens.  Now I'm going back to being very skeptical about any newbies who make well-written, high quality posts--because that's the rare exception, not the rule, and cases of that deserve scrutiny.

That depends on which perspective you are from, I mean if newbies says that they feel alienated in this forum then there must be some sort of truth in those words. For me, the only thing that makes it difficult for newbies to navigate is that they don't have the guide, there's a guide yes but it's so passive that it's not encouraging them to go further.

The forum has come a long way and newcomers have always been and will be different. Fraud detectives have also been and will be. If you check old themes, you will be surprised that one person can own a farm with hundreds of alternative accounts.
Newbies are always under scrutiny since in the history of the forum it was they who were scammers, cheaters, etc. The forum is familiar with deception, therefore, "once you get burned on milk you blow on water"
For example, here are a few past topics where dozens of newbie accounts were exposed, abuse of transfer of merit, and more.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.49708048
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.46990586
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.47498423

So stop building drama. The insults that you say about Ratimov are much rougher than what he laid out against you. Are you inviolable?
On the contrary, I was surprised by Ratimov's good nature, with which he generously distributes merit to newcomers, who later went into the ban. And then we see an experienced The Pharmacist looking suspiciously at newcomers. Since the proverb about milk fits here too.