Topic: The full truth behind ShadowCash/Coin trolls and their attacks on other coins. - page 40. (Read 48478 times)
October 11, 2014, 12:09:13 PM
October 11, 2014, 12:05:51 PM
October 11, 2014, 12:03:44 PM
Nice to see SDC guys coming in here crying victim. SDC guys trolled XST and a few other coins 1st. This is a 1st they can actually claim and it would be the truth. This thread exist because of in part the actions in other coins threads and the Nazi deleting of post that rebut things said by TrollsRoyce aka coolstoryteller and pokielax31 in the ShadowCoin/CASH thread as stated by the OP. ShadowCoin is no victim. They are the aggressors and most of the altcoin community knows that is how they operate.
October 11, 2014, 11:52:54 AM
October 11, 2014, 11:48:19 AM
October 11, 2014, 11:46:37 AM
shadowcash blocked his thread again and my criticism went unanswered. Does someone can answer me about this? This thread isn't self-moderated
i read and in imo is just vaporware like all other scamcoins that does mention to zerocoin / zerocash.
why you dont stop to delete this? just answer and keep the post here if the answer is legit
Zerocoin / zerocash are scam coins. In fact, if you look at the source tree with a zerocash directory, you will know automatically that it is a scam. Check out ghost.
The dev here is promising the same thing. So shadow is a zk-snark scam as well.
If anyone is interested in reading and educating yourself about the research that Zerocash is doing for anonymous cryptography, check out their whitepaper on zk-snarks (http://zerocash-project.org/media/pdf/zerocash-extended-20140518.pdf).
i read and in imo is just vaporware like all other scamcoins that does mention to zerocoin / zerocash.
why you dont stop to delete this? just answer and keep the post here if the answer is legit
wait, the anon of shadowcoin will be based on zerocoin / zerocash? The same of all other "anon" scamcoins?
How if these two are incompatible tecnologies and the real dev abandoned these projects when he realized that didn't work?
Longandshort and coinstoryteller going to make a miracle?
or after learning about the Hondo's project in stealthcoin now they will transform shadowcoin into cryptonote too?
But they know how to implement Chandran signatures? No?
Hmmm things are getting clearer now.
How if these two are incompatible tecnologies and the real dev abandoned these projects when he realized that didn't work?
Longandshort and coinstoryteller going to make a miracle?
or after learning about the Hondo's project in stealthcoin now they will transform shadowcoin into cryptonote too?
But they know how to implement Chandran signatures? No?
Hmmm things are getting clearer now.
Zerocoin / zerocash are scam coins. In fact, if you look at the source tree with a zerocash directory, you will know automatically that it is a scam. Check out ghost.
The dev here is promising the same thing. So shadow is a zk-snark scam as well.
October 11, 2014, 11:43:28 AM
Wrongful things being said in this thread ShadowCash has pioneered some great code.
What exactly? First staking mobile wallet?
Or the stealth addresses that StealthCoin has because the ShadowCash devs were generous enough to open source the code?
I realise a lot of you guys are angry, but try to remember who your fight is with. If you attack the Shadow dev you'll lose because he had nothing to do with this, and if there are any honest people left in crypto I'd wager he is one of them. I won't even go into his work - anyone who takes the time to look into it sees that it speaks for itself.
People seem to be blaming LongAndShort for the drop in Stealth's price, but if all it takes is one person raising questions (albeit very persistenly) to crash the market, how solid is the coin's foundation in the first place?
"If you attack the Shadow dev you'll lose because he had nothing to do with this, and if there are any honest people left in crypto I'd wager he is one of them."
There are lot's of angry people over in the cinnicoin community that would spit in your face if you muttered that. If you havent already, why not educate yourself on the facts? read thru cinni coin thread.
Sad to see the people crying "fud" becoming the fudsters. The dev claimed a bounty by implementing encrypted messaging in Cinni, thereby adding value to the coin. He had no obligations to Cinni beyond that and the Cinni devs have even said that they were on good terms when he left to start Shadow.
So it's your word, verses the word of the Cinni devs themselves. Any other misconceptions/misinformation you'd like help with?
His word against many respected cinnicoin investors that have no reason to lie. hmmm...
My beef is not with the developer. So lets stop this.
No, you don't get off that easy if you are going to be lying about people (even if it is out of frustration).
Hello,
For those who remember, I was a former volunteer dev / proj mgr / comm mgr for Cinni. Please allow me to clear the FUD on rynomster's name (as this was brought to my attention by trolls posting in XC's thread).
Rynomster came to help Cinni with it's encrypted messaging system (per a bounty). After this work was finished, he himself decided to not continue on with Cinni (for his own reasons, which frankly should not matter). His contribution towards the Cinni project started on good terms, and he left Cinni project on good terms -- as far as the dev team was concerned.
As for the issue related to Cinni PoS, I can verify that rynomster did indeed email fixes to the PoS code to cinnidev. And to my knowledge, cinnidev committed them (however, if cinnidev truly committed them will need to be verified by cinnidev / rynomster). Now, whether or not rynomsters fixes corrected absolutely every issue with Cinni's PoS, I cannot answer -- but I do know that rynomster emailed fixes on the PoS code.
Nevertheless -- why are we attacking rynomster? If you are going to call him a liar, then you will have to call both myself and cinnidev liars. But let me ask you -- who else would know the facts better than the dev team? Cinnidev likewise can and should confirm everything that I have said. Anyone who says anything contrary to the facts that I have just stated is a liar, or is ignorant to what actually happened.
Again, rynomster was offered a bounty to build encrypted messaging for Cinni -- this he did in a successful and timely manner. Once this work was completed, he was by no means obligated to continue developing for Cinni. Even Cinni's PoS issue he was not obligated to look at or fix, but he was kind enough to. Please refrain from attacking him, his character, or his new coin.
battbot
I can confirm that what Battbot is saying is correct.For those who remember, I was a former volunteer dev / proj mgr / comm mgr for Cinni. Please allow me to clear the FUD on rynomster's name (as this was brought to my attention by trolls posting in XC's thread).
Rynomster came to help Cinni with it's encrypted messaging system (per a bounty). After this work was finished, he himself decided to not continue on with Cinni (for his own reasons, which frankly should not matter). His contribution towards the Cinni project started on good terms, and he left Cinni project on good terms -- as far as the dev team was concerned.
As for the issue related to Cinni PoS, I can verify that rynomster did indeed email fixes to the PoS code to cinnidev. And to my knowledge, cinnidev committed them (however, if cinnidev truly committed them will need to be verified by cinnidev / rynomster). Now, whether or not rynomsters fixes corrected absolutely every issue with Cinni's PoS, I cannot answer -- but I do know that rynomster emailed fixes on the PoS code.
Nevertheless -- why are we attacking rynomster? If you are going to call him a liar, then you will have to call both myself and cinnidev liars. But let me ask you -- who else would know the facts better than the dev team? Cinnidev likewise can and should confirm everything that I have said. Anyone who says anything contrary to the facts that I have just stated is a liar, or is ignorant to what actually happened.
Again, rynomster was offered a bounty to build encrypted messaging for Cinni -- this he did in a successful and timely manner. Once this work was completed, he was by no means obligated to continue developing for Cinni. Even Cinni's PoS issue he was not obligated to look at or fix, but he was kind enough to. Please refrain from attacking him, his character, or his new coin.
battbot
Be careful you don't become what you hate.
Best of luck to you.
October 11, 2014, 11:37:40 AM
Wrongful things being said in this thread ShadowCash has pioneered some great code.
What exactly? First staking mobile wallet?
Or the stealth addresses that StealthCoin has because the ShadowCash devs were generous enough to open source the code?
I realise a lot of you guys are angry, but try to remember who your fight is with. If you attack the Shadow dev you'll lose because he had nothing to do with this, and if there are any honest people left in crypto I'd wager he is one of them. I won't even go into his work - anyone who takes the time to look into it sees that it speaks for itself.
People seem to be blaming LongAndShort for the drop in Stealth's price, but if all it takes is one person raising questions (albeit very persistenly) to crash the market, how solid is the coin's foundation in the first place?
"If you attack the Shadow dev you'll lose because he had nothing to do with this, and if there are any honest people left in crypto I'd wager he is one of them."
There are lot's of angry people over in the cinnicoin community that would spit in your face if you muttered that. If you havent already, why not educate yourself on the facts? read thru cinni coin thread.
Sad to see the people crying "fud" becoming the fudsters. The dev claimed a bounty by implementing encrypted messaging in Cinni, thereby adding value to the coin. He had no obligations to Cinni beyond that and the Cinni devs have even said that they were on good terms when he left to start Shadow.
So it's your word, verses the word of the Cinni devs themselves. Any other misconceptions/misinformation you'd like help with?
His word against many respected cinnicoin investors that have no reason to lie. hmmm...
My beef is not with the developer. So lets stop this.
October 11, 2014, 11:34:49 AM
Wrongful things being said in this thread ShadowCash has pioneered some great code.
What exactly? First staking mobile wallet?
Or the stealth addresses that StealthCoin has because the ShadowCash devs were generous enough to open source the code?
I realise a lot of you guys are angry, but try to remember who your fight is with. If you attack the Shadow dev you'll lose because he had nothing to do with this, and if there are any honest people left in crypto I'd wager he is one of them. I won't even go into his work - anyone who takes the time to look into it sees that it speaks for itself.
People seem to be blaming LongAndShort for the drop in Stealth's price, but if all it takes is one person raising questions (albeit very persistenly) to crash the market, how solid is the coin's foundation in the first place?
"If you attack the Shadow dev you'll lose because he had nothing to do with this, and if there are any honest people left in crypto I'd wager he is one of them."
There are lot's of angry people over in the cinnicoin community that would spit in your face if you muttered that. If you havent already, why not educate yourself on the facts? read thru cinni coin thread.
Sad to see the people crying "fud" becoming the fudsters. The dev claimed a bounty by implementing encrypted messaging in Cinni, thereby adding value to the coin. He had no obligations to Cinni beyond that and the Cinni devs have even said that they were on good terms when he left to start Shadow.
So it's your word, verses the word of the Cinni devs themselves. Any other misconceptions/misinformation you'd like help with?
October 11, 2014, 11:31:17 AM
Wrongful things being said in this thread ShadowCash has pioneered some great code.
What exactly? First staking mobile wallet?
Or the stealth addresses that StealthCoin has because the ShadowCash devs were generous enough to open source the code?
I realise a lot of you guys are angry, but try to remember who your fight is with. If you attack the Shadow dev you'll lose because he had nothing to do with this, and if there are any honest people left in crypto I'd wager he is one of them. I won't even go into his work - anyone who takes the time to look into it sees that it speaks for itself.
People seem to be blaming LongAndShort for the drop in Stealth's price, but if all it takes is one person raising questions (albeit very persistenly) to crash the market, how solid is the coin's foundation in the first place?
"If you attack the Shadow dev you'll lose because he had nothing to do with this, and if there are any honest people left in crypto I'd wager he is one of them."
There are lot's of angry people over in the cinnicoin community that would spit in your face if you muttered that. If you havent already, why not educate yourself on the facts? read thru cinni coin thread.
October 11, 2014, 11:27:07 AM
Wrongful things being said in this thread ShadowCash has pioneered some great code.
What exactly? First staking mobile wallet?
Or the stealth addresses that StealthCoin has because the ShadowCash devs were generous enough to open source the code?
I realise a lot of you guys are angry, but try to remember who your fight is with. If you attack the Shadow dev you'll lose because he had nothing to do with this, and if there are any honest people left in crypto I'd wager he is one of them. I won't even go into his work - anyone who takes the time to look into it sees that it speaks for itself.
People seem to be blaming LongAndShort for the drop in Stealth's price, but if all it takes is one person raising questions (albeit very persistenly) to crash the market, how solid is the coin's foundation in the first place?
October 11, 2014, 11:22:31 AM
Wheatclove = coinstoryteller = trollsroyce the scammer
Boh = pookielax13 too. I'm sure there are other shills too but these guys own 1.8 million SDC coins. Wonder what happens when they tire of it and Dump it?
A 3rd of all SDC coins in the hands or 1 or 2 guys. October 11, 2014, 11:16:42 AM
Wrongful things being said in this thread ShadowCash has pioneered some great code.
What rampaging and trolling other coins on their launch that dared to use some part of the open source resources SDC dev made available? How dare they use OPEN source code. Claiming the 1st pos coin staking Android wallet even though it was posted to the Android store 3-4 days later. Any retard can see it wasn't 1st but on they go about how they delivered the first one. Paid promoters to spread the lie and even paid for news articles to try to back it up. Epic fail. Just go to the Android store and look at the add dates for both LibrexCoin and ShadowCoin/cash add. LOLz
October 11, 2014, 11:09:24 AM
Wrongful things being said in this thread ShadowCash has pioneered some great code.
What exactly? First staking mobile wallet?
October 11, 2014, 11:01:34 AM
Wrongful things being said in this thread ShadowCash has pioneered some great code.
October 11, 2014, 10:44:12 AM
I believe this is still an accurate post by Longandshort:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9056919
As for what I've observed: the overactive members of your communities are too concentrated on the price of your coin. They are rightfully panicking due to the dumpoffs but do not know who to blame. Your volume is fake (reason being that a coin can't have as much volume as your coin and remain the same price), and your price has been artificially inflated to do pump and dump group hype. After the releases/tech start taking longer to be released, the pump and dumpers exit the coin.
This can be seen with any and every coin that has gone 10x in it's first few months. Your coin has been used as bait by those in the altcoin game that are very good at making money for themselves.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9056919
As for what I've observed: the overactive members of your communities are too concentrated on the price of your coin. They are rightfully panicking due to the dumpoffs but do not know who to blame. Your volume is fake (reason being that a coin can't have as much volume as your coin and remain the same price), and your price has been artificially inflated to do pump and dump group hype. After the releases/tech start taking longer to be released, the pump and dumpers exit the coin.
This can be seen with any and every coin that has gone 10x in it's first few months. Your coin has been used as bait by those in the altcoin game that are very good at making money for themselves.
If you are actually interested in educating yourself, you should start here:
http://bitcoindailyherald.com/2014/10/10/stealthcoin-price-plummets-amid-overt-community-chaos/
excerpt: "The current feud primarily involves ShadowCash trolls, another privacy-centric altcoin competing for the same investors as Stealthcoin (ShadowCash developer Rynomster has admonished the trolls for their actions)."
October 11, 2014, 10:18:12 AM
pookie's (Mr.Boh) bot bought 50 sdc and price went up a bit LOL
no volume, no blockchain, no friends. Just bots
1 btc volume LOL
no volume, no blockchain, no friends. Just bots
1 btc volume LOL
October 11, 2014, 10:14:36 AM
Wheatclove = coinstoryteller = trollsroyce the scammer
October 11, 2014, 09:46:35 AM
SHADOWCOIN TEAM, THEY ARE DANGEROUS BANDITS
October 11, 2014, 09:19:57 AM
I believe this is still an accurate post by Longandshort:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9056919
As for what I've observed: the overactive members of your communities are too concentrated on the price of your coin. They are rightfully panicking due to the dumpoffs but do not know who to blame. Your volume is fake (reason being that a coin can't have as much volume as your coin and remain the same price), and your price has been artificially inflated to do pump and dump group hype. After the releases/tech start taking longer to be released, the pump and dumpers exit the coin.
This can be seen with any and every coin that has gone 10x in it's first few months. Your coin has been used as bait by those in the altcoin game that are very good at making money for themselves.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9056919
As for what I've observed: the overactive members of your communities are too concentrated on the price of your coin. They are rightfully panicking due to the dumpoffs but do not know who to blame. Your volume is fake (reason being that a coin can't have as much volume as your coin and remain the same price), and your price has been artificially inflated to do pump and dump group hype. After the releases/tech start taking longer to be released, the pump and dumpers exit the coin.
This can be seen with any and every coin that has gone 10x in it's first few months. Your coin has been used as bait by those in the altcoin game that are very good at making money for themselves.
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