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Quote from: Strongkored on June 26, 2023, 10:50:23 PM

The right time to enter the market really determines the success of trading, but it's not an easy thing to do because it's the same as knowing which price is the highest and also the lowest price, all you can do is predict or analyze but it won't be 100% correct, but agree to start trading not always when the market starts to turn green because consistent traders who often trade understand that even in red market conditions they can still enter the market and benefit from the red conditions, continue to carefully learn each state both green and red so that trading does not always depend on just one state.

The success of a trader is determined not only by the ability to enter a trade at the lowest price, moreover, it is very difficult to determine this lowest price.

Success is determined by the ability to determine the moment of a trend change, no matter if we are talking about a local or global movement. In fact, having this skill, a trader can already count on positive results in trading, and in this case it is not so important in which market, red or green, a transaction will be opened if the subsequent price movement was definitely true. In addition, a change in trend does not only occur at the very bottom, this is a fairly common phenomenon in day trading.

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Quote from: Y3shot on June 21, 2023, 07:06:47 AM

What stopped you when the price was low? don't let the sudden increase make you rush into the market- learn to control your emotions.
One of the challenges of some traders is that they don't know when is the right time to enter the market. Some traders feels when the market is red it is always a wrong time to get into the market to trade. If the green should only be considered as the best time to enter the market, I think it won't always be a right decision. Going into the market when it is green is just greedy sentiment for trading.

Most of the traders even for the experienced one, they don't know when to trade. Sometimes when they want to buy, the price keep rising so they think they have no chance because the price is expensive and they think the price will suddenly go down after they buy and vice versa. I have experienced that similar things and it's normal to face that when you are trading.

This is why you need analysis/research and being up to date with the news so you know at least what to expect with the assets you are trading with.

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Quote from: AbuBhakar on June 25, 2023, 01:27:13 PM

Bearish is indeed the best time to buy but sometimes buying on a bullish market is still good if it's a confirmation for a reversal. Yeah it's very easy to say that it's good to buy on bearish but how long will the bearish occur before the market finally recover to take some profit.

A pumping market after a long bearish trend is one of the time to pruchase Bitcoin if you want to have a high chance to purchased when the market is recovering instead of dumping to maximize profit because you can purchase on way higher if you just buy randomly on dumping market. Atleast on confirmation buy, You have a high chance that the market will go on bullish right after you enter.

It basically depends on your financial goals and personal choices whether you want to buy when the market is in a bear run or you want to fill your bags when the price is about to start the adrenaline rush, if you are a long-term investor, you should probably buy when the market is in a bear run because you will get much better prices, but, if you are just a short-term investor and want a few percentages of profit, you should definitely trade only when the market is in a bull run.

When you buy right after a bull run has started, you will have enough time to just sell when your target has reached or you can keep holding more if the price keeps going up without any stops because that will obviously generate more profits for you as a short-term trader.

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Quote from: Patrol69 on June 26, 2023, 04:42:55 AM

There are some investors who predict the market only by considering the red and green side of the market. That is, they think that the market will be green and then red again, and when it will be red and then green again. But our idea is wrong. If the market increases a bit then the market will have the potential to increase further. It is not true that the value of a coin has suddenly increased a little and the value of that coin will not increase again. For example, when the price of Bitcoin was in the $26,000 range, many people assumed that the price of Bitcoin would not increase further, that is, they thought that the price of Bitcoin would go down from $26,000. But from that 26 thousand dollars the market has come close to 31 thousand dollars. Again, many people may be thinking that the market will not stay close to this 31 thousand dollars, the market will go down, but the market can rise above thirty one thousand dollars.

Indeed many think so. Namely those who are pessimistic about bitcoin price movements. And in fact the red market and the green market cannot be used as a reference. And actually at this time what is more effective as a reference is from fundamentalist news which always has an impact on market sentiment. For example today The First Leverage BTC Future ETF will be launched in the US. And I think the market is going to be a bit more volatile from the news.

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Quote from: Y3shot on June 21, 2023, 07:06:47 AM

Traders needs to learn when is the right time to enter the market and not to judge when to enter with a particular signal. Signals are unprecedented and may change faster than it's expected.

The right time to enter the market really determines the success of trading, but it's not an easy thing to do because it's the same as knowing which price is the highest and also the lowest price, all you can do is predict or analyze but it won't be 100% correct, but agree to start trading not always when the market starts to turn green because consistent traders who often trade understand that even in red market conditions they can still enter the market and benefit from the red conditions, continue to carefully learn each state both green and red so that trading does not always depend on just one state.

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Quote from: Y3shot on June 21, 2023, 07:06:47 AM

Traders needs to learn when is the right time to enter the market and not to judge when to enter with a particular signal. Signals are unprecedented and may change faster than it's expected.

Not just any person can be called a trader as well for making some trades taking a signal or hearing some else’s advice, when i stared my first orders with my friends i use to like being called a trader until i learned a painful and expensive lesson. Trading isn’t easy or safe for anyone to join the market studying and entering first trades.
If i can share my opinion about trading and someone reads it i want to say to him think twice before starting, there’s many other profitable businesses and works than trading. It’s a very manipulative, dangerous and addictive business where you can be gambling with a lot of money and mess with you emotions and mood. It can be profitable when you learn so much and understand the market beside having large capital money and good money management.
I shared my opinion and signals in the local board when bitcoin was trading on $26k that it’s a good level to buy some more of it went right. As much as i could be wrong. So always stick to your plan and do a good management as going to gamble some of your money.

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Quote from: Patrol69 on June 26, 2023, 04:42:55 AM

There are some investors who predict the market only by considering the red and green side of the market. That is, they think that the market will be green and then red again, and when it will be red and then green again. But our idea is wrong. If the market increases a bit then the market will have the potential to increase further. It is not true that the value of a coin has suddenly increased a little and the value of that coin will not increase again. For example, when the price of Bitcoin was in the $26,000 range, many people assumed that the price of Bitcoin would not increase further, that is, they thought that the price of Bitcoin would go down from $26,000. But from that 26 thousand dollars the market has come close to 31 thousand dollars. Again, many people may be thinking that the market will not stay close to this 31 thousand dollars, the market will go down, but the market can rise above thirty one thousand dollars.

The truth is that some people merely enter the market due to positive comments made by other users of the Bitcoin market.I see this set of people that follow only the light of Bitcoin price to quickly take decision without their own research as people that just come to the cryptocurrency industry to just make quick money, without understanding how cryptocurrencies work. For example, when some people are talking about Bitcoin price increasing, that is the time they will start buying, and when they hear people complaining that the Bitcoin market is falling, they start panicking and start selling.but I believe those that have the knowledge never follow the pattern of Bitcoin price light.this brings to mind a buddy of mine who is constantly keen to buy Bitcoin anytime the market turns green and seriously it always end up in lost because he always invest some money that is not suppose to invested, so it always ending of selling at lost.

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Most of the buzz appears when the price is rising. Therefore the forum sees more sign-ups and more visitors. Those with a background of speculative trading know that the time to buy is the bear market and the time to sell is the bull market. But for a first timer, I guess this much developed thinking does not occur in the first time. They just buy while the price is rising and eventually get stuck. Though we can't do anything after the mistake is made, we can teach people to avoid such FOMO/Panic buying while a bull market runs.

The first try is not always went so well, most of the time it ends up failing and disappointing. But this is the way to educate beginners and give light their way as their mistakes could be a lesson to ponder in order to have a better journey. Things don't go so well and we fail and commit mistakes several times before we reach our goal. And if we are impatient and can't handle the stress, no way we achieve success but failure and losses.

Newbies should be warned about what will possibly happen to them in their early days and they should clearly understand that trading isn't an easy job and we don't underestimate it.

Learnings and realization is never been something which can really be avoided specially when we are still a noob on which there are lots of things which you could really be able to encounter and make you learn

afterwards.It is really just depending on how someone would really be that absorbing or would really be utilizing those learnings for the better or improving on yourself. Its impossible that you wouldn't really be able to realize things on the time that you had encountered on them. If you do make out some mistakes then you are already aware on how things works and on next time then you would really be trying out to avoid.
If you have committed again then it would be a never ending process. You would be still finding ways on how you would really be lessening out that certain risks.

It all matters on a certain individual on how they would really be able to handle out themselves on this unpredictable market. Whether it would be bullish or bearish, there would really be always those counteractive
kind of sentiments or factors which would really be trying out to stir up anything on point.

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Quote from: TheUltraElite on June 26, 2023, 03:53:53 AM

Most of the buzz appears when the price is rising. Therefore the forum sees more sign-ups and more visitors. Those with a background of speculative trading know that the time to buy is the bear market and the time to sell is the bull market. But for a first timer, I guess this much developed thinking does not occur in the first time. They just buy while the price is rising and eventually get stuck. Though we can't do anything after the mistake is made, we can teach people to avoid such FOMO/Panic buying while a bull market runs.

The first try is not always went so well, most of the time it ends up failing and disappointing. But this is the way to educate beginners and give light their way as their mistakes could be a lesson to ponder in order to have a better journey. Things don't go so well and we fail and commit mistakes several times before we reach our goal. And if we are impatient and can't handle the stress, no way we achieve success but failure and losses.

Newbies should be warned about what will possibly happen to them in their early days and they should clearly understand that trading isn't an easy job and we don't underestimate it.

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There are some investors who predict the market only by considering the red and green side of the market. That is, they think that the market will be green and then red again, and when it will be red and then green again. But our idea is wrong. If the market increases a bit then the market will have the potential to increase further. It is not true that the value of a coin has suddenly increased a little and the value of that coin will not increase again. For example, when the price of Bitcoin was in the $26,000 range, many people assumed that the price of Bitcoin would not increase further, that is, they thought that the price of Bitcoin would go down from $26,000. But from that 26 thousand dollars the market has come close to 31 thousand dollars. Again, many people may be thinking that the market will not stay close to this 31 thousand dollars, the market will go down, but the market can rise above thirty one thousand dollars.

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Most of the buzz appears when the price is rising. Therefore the forum sees more sign-ups and more visitors. Those with a background of speculative trading know that the time to buy is the bear market and the time to sell is the bull market. But for a first timer, I guess this much developed thinking does not occur in the first time. They just buy while the price is rising and eventually get stuck. Though we can't do anything after the mistake is made, we can teach people to avoid such FOMO/Panic buying while a bull market runs.

The time to buy at a discounted price is the best market. This will be understood by newbies once they experience the market cycles in front of them.

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Quote from: Y3shot on June 21, 2023, 07:06:47 AM

What stopped you when the price was low? don't let the sudden increase make you rush into the market- learn to control your emotions.

One of the challenges of some traders is that they don't know when is the right time to enter the market. Some traders feels when the market is red it is always a wrong time to get into the market to trade. If the green should only be considered as the best time to enter the market, I think it won't always be a right decision. Going into the market when it is green is just greedy sentiment for trading.

Sometimes when the market is red it can also be a good time to enter the market if carefully watched. Not all green ends up with profit and not all red ends with loss too.
Traders needs to learn when is the right time to enter the market and not to judge when to enter with a particular signal. Signals are unprecedented and may change faster than it's expected.

If we say that not every opportunity in the green is a good opportunity to buy Bitcoin or a crypto, it means that not every opportunity is also a good opportunity to buy when the market is red. Is that right?

Because there is a chance that when most of the crypto in the market is green, there is a sudden fall like what happened last month or when the price value of Bitcoin pumped up to 31k$ almost and then suddenly dropped gradually until more than 26k$ . And there is also a chance that when you buy red, the market will drop even more in value, in which for me, if that happens, it still seems okay to me if I always only think about DCA.

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Quote from: Bitcoin_people on June 26, 2023, 12:43:12 AM

Some traders consider it a good time to trade when the market is green. They think that trading at this time will have a chance of profit but basically there is a chance of loss at that time. When the market is red, trading is more profitable. If any investment is made while the market is red then it is necessary to wait until it turns green later. And when the market is red, there is a certain signal that later the market will rise again. But if the investment is made when the market is green then market dumping can happen anytime. So if you want to trade, you must invest only when the market is bearish.

So true. If it's for long or medium term investment then entering only when the market is bearish or red market is the most appropriate step. Because the risk of a much deeper decline is also quite minimal. because of the decline that has already occurred. But investing when the market is green or on the rise is indeed very risky to experience sudden dumping. But when the market is green, there are many day traders who are more daring to enter. because because indeed increases occur more often when the market is green. So day traders may even earn more in the green market. because the direction of price movement is much easier to predict.

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Some traders consider it a good time to trade when the market is green. They think that trading at this time will have a chance of profit but basically there is a chance of loss at that time. When the market is red, trading is more profitable. If any investment is made while the market is red then it is necessary to wait until it turns green later. And when the market is red, there is a certain signal that later the market will rise again. But if the investment is made when the market is green then market dumping can happen anytime. So if you want to trade, you must invest only when the market is bearish.

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Quote from: Y3shot on June 21, 2023, 07:06:47 AM

Sometimes when the market is red it can also be a good time to enter the market if carefully watched. Not all green ends up with profit and not all red ends with loss too.

The ideal time to entry is in red market because it is the time when BTC is cheap. A green market means BTC price is increasing, so we can't by BTC at a cheap price. People may think the green market is a good time to entry, may not have the purpose to hold a long time. They just hold for a short time and take small profits. While for people who target for the long term investment, they must choose the entry time in bearish season (red market). Of course, green market doesn't guarantee for profits, it totally depends on the way (strategy) we trade.

Things like this are certainly basic knowledge so that we are not wrong in making decisions which can result in losses,
It is important to know when to buy and sell,
the most important thing is keep trying to learn and much better.

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Quote from: AbuBhakar on June 25, 2023, 01:27:13 PM

Bearish is indeed the best time to buy but sometimes buying on a bullish market is still good if it's a confirmation for a reversal. Yeah it's very easy to say that it's good to buy on bearish but how long will the bearish occur before the market finally recover to take some profit.

A pumping market after a long bearish trend is one of the time to pruchase Bitcoin if you want to have a high chance to purchased when the market is recovering instead of dumping to maximize profit because you can purchase on way higher if you just buy randomly on dumping market. Atleast on confirmation buy, You have a high chance that the market will go on bullish right after you enter.

The green ans red candlesticks matters, we only need to stay online and monitor the market, perfect scalping will results in enormous profits. No time to relent around, aiming at good profits and standing out for potential pump of a project. I don't value either the market is in the bear or bull season, once my setups hits, I got a good entry, ofcourse I will triggered my trade and obtain significant profits. The market should print money for us because we overthinks on what's going to happen when the market hits either the bull or bear season, always ready to carry out our initial plans.

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Quote from: Y3shot on June 21, 2023, 07:06:47 AM

Sometimes when the market is red it can also be a good time to enter the market if carefully watched. Not all green ends up with profit and not all red ends with loss too.

The ideal time to entry is in red market because it is the time when BTC is cheap. A green market means BTC price is increasing, so we can't by BTC at a cheap price. People may think the green market is a good time to entry, may not have the purpose to hold a long time. They just hold for a short time and take small profits. While for people who target for the long term investment, they must choose the entry time in bearish season (red market). Of course, green market doesn't guarantee for profits, it totally depends on the way (strategy) we trade.

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Quote from: AbuBhakar on June 25, 2023, 01:27:13 PM

Quote from: Hamphser on June 24, 2023, 04:50:38 PM

Common sense on what you would need because pointing out on when is the right time to enter the market then it would really be definitely be pertaining about those red times or bearish times and not on a pumping

market.This is where people do usually be committing out mistakes on which they do really have that kind of impression or decision on the time that the market is trying out to recover then this is where they would really be positioning themselves.Whereas, it would really be that wise if they have done it earlier on the time that most people are really that in fear when it comes to market dealing. Be greedy when others are fearful and be fearful when others are greedy, this is where i do usually follow up this kind of saying and it does really works well, although not an assurance or all the time but at least
it would be giving out that kind of advantage whenever you do face up these situations.

Bearish is indeed the best time to buy but sometimes buying on a bullish market is still good if it's a confirmation for a reversal. Yeah it's very easy to say that it's good to buy on bearish but how long will the bearish occur before the market finally recover to take some profit.

A pumping market after a long bearish trend is one of the time to pruchase Bitcoin if you want to have a high chance to purchased when the market is recovering instead of dumping to maximize profit because you can purchase on way higher if you just buy randomly on dumping market. Atleast on confirmation buy, You have a high chance that the market will go on bullish right after you enter.

Yeah you do really have a point on which it is true that once you do see that there is already a trend reversal then investing or putting up your entry on that very price pump or increase would really be the best thing
to do but of course to those people who do have that hesitance or doubts when it comes to this situation. This is why whenever we do see that this current situation on Bitcoin on where the price is tanking up again on 30k and we cant be sure if it would be pushing through on what most people been anticipating. This is why we should really be that careful on putting up ourselves on such condition but if we are really that going for long term then this wont really be that a problem. You could always be having the option to hold and wont be stressing up yourself if ever the price would be able to reach out or not but knowing
this crypto space on which if the market turns out to be green then most of them would really be increasing.

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Quote from: Y3shot on June 21, 2023, 07:06:47 AM

What stopped you when the price was low? don't let the sudden increase make you rush into the market- learn to control your emotions.

One of the challenges of some traders is that they don't know when is the right time to enter the market. Some traders feels when the market is red it is always a wrong time to get into the market to trade. If the green should only be considered as the best time to enter the market, I think it won't always be a right decision. Going into the market when it is green is just greedy sentiment for trading.

Sometimes when the market is red it can also be a good time to enter the market if carefully watched. Not all green ends up with profit and not all red ends with loss too.
Traders needs to learn when is the right time to enter the market and not to judge when to enter with a particular signal. Signals are unprecedented and may change faster than it's expected.

Good point and advice. However....

.....a trader can't learn how to properly deal with their emotions if, in the first place, they didn't fully experience yet being in the worst trading situation. Learning to control the emotion is already a famous advice but to fully understand the deep meaning of that, a trader should really experience several mistakes on the way. It's not easy to control the emotion as it was human nature. Honestly, even professional traders can't deal with their emotions.

But what matter here is, as long as the trader is serious about pursuing success in trading, controlling the emotion can be managed properly on the way.

Quote from: Y3shot on June 21, 2023, 07:06:47 AM

Traders needs to learn when is the right time to enter the market and not to judge when to enter with a particular signal. Signals are unprecedented and may change faster than it's expected.

You are right there but didn't you know that determining the right timing, sometimes requires a trial and error? That's the challenge there.

It's easy to say but it's not that simple to execute.

We can't always achieve a 100% success rate in trading but we can make our winning stats more dominant over losing stats.

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Quote from: Hamphser on June 24, 2023, 04:50:38 PM

Common sense on what you would need because pointing out on when is the right time to enter the market then it would really be definitely be pertaining about those red times or bearish times and not on a pumping

market.This is where people do usually be committing out mistakes on which they do really have that kind of impression or decision on the time that the market is trying out to recover then this is where they would really be positioning themselves.Whereas, it would really be that wise if they have done it earlier on the time that most people are really that in fear when it comes to market dealing. Be greedy when others are fearful and be fearful when others are greedy, this is where i do usually follow up this kind of saying and it does really works well, although not an assurance or all the time but at least
it would be giving out that kind of advantage whenever you do face up these situations.

Bearish is indeed the best time to buy but sometimes buying on a bullish market is still good if it's a confirmation for a reversal. Yeah it's very easy to say that it's good to buy on bearish but how long will the bearish occur before the market finally recover to take some profit.

A pumping market after a long bearish trend is one of the time to pruchase Bitcoin if you want to have a high chance to purchased when the market is recovering instead of dumping to maximize profit because you can purchase on way higher if you just buy randomly on dumping market. Atleast on confirmation buy, You have a high chance that the market will go on bullish right after you enter.

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