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Quote from: jostorres on June 25, 2023, 12:40:53 PM

There were lots of times we return and pass $27k but we then fall down immediately but right now after checking the price, we are now at $29k. Your analysis were fail before but it's now correct. Positive sentiments can come to us crypto lovers but there are some sentiments which are against to it. The SEC for example and it might be the one who is responsible for the dip last time. US country are also affected but I think buying shares from a crypto company was still allowed. Maybe that is their reason for doing that.

Well, exact prediction of price need tons of experience which i do not have, so i just predicted the price on the basis of knowledge i have, and yet it proved to be true but to some extent only. As i did not think it will touch $31k in this week, tomorrow will be next week and i can see some correction in the price is already started and in my thought next week will be a correction week.

Which means, it will be healthy for market and after that market could go for $40k, of course it will not directly touch $40k but there will be some technical resistances will be made too.

Let's see where BTC will take us, i am pretty sure about $40k soon, idk why? But currently all sentiments are in favor of crypto, like SEC, CFTC, USA government, IMF, other countries are making steps in favor of crypto. This all help BTC to cross $40k.

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Quote from: Faisal2202 on June 21, 2023, 07:32:44 AM

after analyzing the market, I was sure that once the $27k resistance will be broke, then BTC could easily reach above $28k plus there were many sentiments are in favor of crypto. I was expecting this boom in market previous week but previous week market went into correction and touched 24,900$ well, that was a good time though and many big investors from USA bought many shares of MicroS strategy which is equals to indirectly buying of BTC.

The point is, currently I do have 90% surety that market might touch 29,500$ if something more positive came up like the new EDX exchange proposal by USA and other market sentiments will keep this spike up maybe it touches 29,500$ after a little correction. Let's see what happened next.

There were lots of times we return and pass $27k but we then fall down immediately but right now after checking the price, we are now at $29k. Your analysis were fail before but it's now correct. Positive sentiments can come to us crypto lovers but there are some sentiments which are against to it. The SEC for example and it might be the one who is responsible for the dip last time. US country are also affected but I think buying shares from a crypto company was still allowed. Maybe that is their reason for doing that.

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Re: The green shouldn't always be the reason to enter the market

The proper entry were actually the reds and not the greens. I think only the newbies are the ones who enter at the greens. It's a risky kind of approach especially if the coin that they pick are the the newer ones or those who are shit/meme coins that are being hyped.

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Quote from: Y3shot on June 21, 2023, 07:06:47 AM

What stopped you when the price was low? don't let the sudden increase make you rush into the market- learn to control your emotions.

One of the challenges of some traders is that they don't know when is the right time to enter the market. Some traders feels when the market is red it is always a wrong time to get into the market to trade. If the green should only be considered as the best time to enter the market, I think it won't always be a right decision. Going into the market when it is green is just greedy sentiment for trading.

Sometimes when the market is red it can also be a good time to enter the market if carefully watched. Not all green ends up with profit and not all red ends with loss too.
Traders needs to learn when is the right time to enter the market and not to judge when to enter with a particular signal. Signals are unprecedented and may change faster than it's expected.

If you stick to what is right and basic, the red market chart should be the perfect timing to enter the market because all prices are certainly dropping, which means you can maximize your purchase particularly if you plan to fill your portfolio with bigger amount of bitcoin. However, experienced traders have their own version when to enter and trade the market. As long as they see good signals to trade despite of its market condition, professional traders will still end up trading successfully and profitably.

Common sense on what you would need because pointing out on when is the right time to enter the market then it would really be definitely be pertaining about those red times or bearish times and not on a pumping

market.This is where people do usually be committing out mistakes on which they do really have that kind of impression or decision on the time that the market is trying out to recover then this is where they would really be positioning themselves.Whereas, it would really be that wise if they have done it earlier on the time that most people are really that in fear when it comes to market dealing. Be greedy when others are fearful and be fearful when others are greedy, this is where i do usually follow up this kind of saying and it does really works well, although not an assurance or all the time but at least
it would be giving out that kind of advantage whenever you do face up these situations.

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Quote from: Y3shot on June 21, 2023, 07:06:47 AM

What stopped you when the price was low? don't let the sudden increase make you rush into the market- learn to control your emotions.

One of the challenges of some traders is that they don't know when is the right time to enter the market. Some traders feels when the market is red it is always a wrong time to get into the market to trade. If the green should only be considered as the best time to enter the market, I think it won't always be a right decision. Going into the market when it is green is just greedy sentiment for trading.

Sometimes when the market is red it can also be a good time to enter the market if carefully watched. Not all green ends up with profit and not all red ends with loss too.
Traders needs to learn when is the right time to enter the market and not to judge when to enter with a particular signal. Signals are unprecedented and may change faster than it's expected.

If you stick to what is right and basic, the red market chart should be the perfect timing to enter the market because all prices are certainly dropping, which means you can maximize your purchase particularly if you plan to fill your portfolio with bigger amount of bitcoin. However, experienced traders have their own version when to enter and trade the market. As long as they see good signals to trade despite of its market condition, professional traders will still end up trading successfully and profitably.

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Quote from: gabbie2010 on June 24, 2023, 07:24:27 AM

Truly at times when the market is green it can be profitable as well but the overall sentiment of the market will have to be bullish thus the trader will enter the market in pullbacks or reversal, however this can be achieved with knowledge in Price Action with the aid of candlestick patterns.

Some traders often invest when they say that the market is bullish which I think is wrong, they need to analyze patterns, they need to learn candlestick and some other strategies that can help them to fully understand the market and let them not suffer to much loss. Because sometimes we can encounter fake pump as well, so we need to be extra careful in these things.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on June 23, 2023, 04:54:09 PM

It is always a failure or mistake especially if we are not good at making a decision. A reason why we should have to pause for a while to think over and over again before deciding what we are going to do next in a particular situation in order to avoid mistakes.

Apparently, there is no perfect time of entry but as we know that it was good to start investing during the market corrections. But some people are preferred to have it started during recovery as their reason is that they won't wait and hold for so long, and they will earn profit quickly. That was the comparison between a patient and an impatient holder - they all have a reason and therefore, buying always depends on us.

profit is not easy quickly but instead of impatience one can achieve their desired goals with patience so I don't think that those individuals who rushes for the success can achieve success. Buying will depends on us but we have to choose when to buy so an expert will make good decision while those who don't have any knowledge cannot be true all the time.

People who wants to be successful needs strategies to apply, knowledge of time to make decision, and control emotions. At start everyone makes mistakes but successful person is that who seek to minimize these mistakes with passage of time.

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Quote from: Y3shot on June 21, 2023, 07:06:47 AM

What stopped you when the price was low? don't let the sudden increase make you rush into the market- learn to control your emotions.

This mistake is mostly common to newbies or inexperience traders seeing market green triggers their emotion to enter the market and buy not minding the fact that the price is the peak and about to retrace or pullback thus the consequence is watching their entry turn Red therefore they will have to wait till the price resume or continue with the initial trend or dump massively which result to losses.

Quote from: Y3shot on June 21, 2023, 07:06:47 AM

One of the challenges of some traders is that they don't know when is the right time to enter the market. Some traders feels when the market is red it is always a wrong time to get into the market to trade. If the green should only be considered as the best time to enter the market, I think it won't always be a right decision. Going into the market when it is green is just greedy sentiment for trading.

This is where experience in trading is utilized a good trader enters the market at the beginning of the trend and target a Take Profit and exit quickly because of high volatility of price i .e a price reversal is imminent.

Quote from: Y3shot on June 21, 2023, 07:06:47 AM

Sometimes when the market is red it can also be a good time to enter the market if carefully watched. Not all green ends up with profit and not all red ends with loss too.
Traders needs to learn when is the right time to enter the market and not to judge when to enter with a particular signal. Signals are unprecedented and may change faster than it's expected.

Truly at times when the market is green it can be profitable as well but the overall sentiment of the market will have to be bullish thus the trader will enter the market in pullbacks or reversal, however this can be achieved with knowledge in Price Action with the aid of candlestick patterns.

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Quote from: JoyMarsha on June 23, 2023, 05:17:53 PM

If you don't learn how to control your emotions, investing in the crypto market may be a terrible experience. Since people rushed to invest because of the sharp rise in the price of bitcoin when they weren't intended to.

I know how awful it can be since I have experienced it before. There is this belief that when the market pump, the bull run is about to kick off that everyone should make an investment before it's too late. However, in reality, it is not.

You're not wrong, individuals that listen to what's been said on social media are those that falls into this category. They chase about the hype of the market because of what they hear from social media influencers on twitter or youtube. The market turning green doesn't always means the market is set to starts pumping higher. Sometimes it's just the market taking some break from the falls it was on and those green don't last long as the market falls again.

If you want to invest and benefits from the market, you have to do that when the market is red as others are selling because of fear from fud or you can also invest through dollar cost average. With this you can buy as many times as possible and not been bother of the market.

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Quote from: Jatiluhung on June 24, 2023, 01:48:23 AM

Red and Green cannot be used as a guide to determine when is the right time to enter or exit. I think there is more to be done before deciding to enter a trade. such as reading fundamental news, and conducting technical analysis such as determining support and resistance points. And see if there is a price bounce or support that is broken or not. and many other things. But entering when the market is hype or is turning green for several days in a row sometimes carries a higher risk. And I personally prefer to buy when the market is red and sell when the market is green. and of course with the considerations and analysis that has been done.

As a trader or as an investor, we must know what are tools needed to have a good market analysis. And definitely, it was not the color of the market we have to consider but several factors. And as you have mentioned, those things play an important role in analyzing the market condition and we must have to learn all of these things to get what we wanted to happen. Because the future of the market couldn't be determined by its color but as we observed, news is the biggest market influence.

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Quote from: Y3shot on June 21, 2023, 07:06:47 AM

What stopped you when the price was low? don't let the sudden increase make you rush into the market- learn to control your emotions.

Don't have money to buy and that is a weakness for people in investing and even though prices tend to move low. The trick might be to use DCA much better to maximize purchases.

Quote from: Y3shot on June 21, 2023, 07:06:47 AM

Sometimes when the market is red it can also be a good time to enter the market if carefully watched. Not all green ends up with profit and not all red ends with loss too.

When red market conditions are certain it is a good move to enter the market. The profit pattern depends on how the trading strategy you apply, but it is different from making big profits in the long term by expecting small profits in the short term. Totally depends on how the trading strategy you apply.

Quote from: Y3shot on June 21, 2023, 07:06:47 AM

Traders needs to learn when is the right time to enter the market and not to judge when to enter with a particular signal. Signals are unprecedented and may change faster than it's expected.

In trading you don't always get the right moment to enter the market, it's just that you need to learn to open and close orders in trading, this accuracy must be learned correctly and even if the market is on a red or green line.

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Red and Green cannot be used as a guide to determine when is the right time to enter or exit. I think there is more to be done before deciding to enter a trade. such as reading fundamental news, and conducting technical analysis such as determining support and resistance points. And see if there is a price bounce or support that is broken or not. and many other things. But entering when the market is hype or is turning green for several days in a row sometimes carries a higher risk. And I personally prefer to buy when the market is red and sell when the market is green. and of course with the considerations and analysis that has been done.

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Quote from: Y3shot on June 21, 2023, 07:06:47 AM

Sometimes when the market is red it can also be a good time to enter the market if carefully watched. Not all green ends up with profit and not all red ends with loss too.
Traders needs to learn when is the right time to enter the market and not to judge when to enter with a particular signal. Signals are unprecedented and may change faster than it's expected.

That is exactly the point of having realised and unrealised gains in our portfolio. Just because a current position is in the red doesn't mean it is going to stay like that and we will lose money. Every coin can have a bad day or week that will lead to setbacks, that is part of the game and we shouldn't be too concerned about it. On the other side when a coin is the green we could always sell the position and realise that gain. It's helpful to ask ourselves how high is the upside potential or does it make more sense to switch into another coin now. Crypto currencies like most other risky assets tend to move in cycles, which helps a lot the trader that faces a losses. That is also why signals can change quickly and we need to look at a wider range of signals. Only focusing on short term signals can gives us other trading recommendations than looking at more long term signals.

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Quote from: JoyMarsha on June 23, 2023, 05:17:53 PM

If you don't learn how to control your emotions, investing in the crypto market may be a terrible experience. Since people rushed to invest because of the sharp rise in the price of bitcoin when they weren't intended to.

I know how awful it can be since I have experienced it before. There is this belief that when the market pump, the bull run is about to kick off that everyone should make an investment before it's too late. However, in reality, it is not.

However, if someone feels like entering the market (bearish or bullish), they are free to do so since before the bull run ends, they will be able to achieve the desired profits.

Basically there are many things that must be prepared before entering the crypto market,
controlling emotions is one that needs to be learned and it is also an important part,
because if not then we will make decisions that are not right which will ultimately harm ourselves.

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If you don't learn how to control your emotions, investing in the crypto market may be a terrible experience. Since people rushed to invest because of the sharp rise in the price of bitcoin when they weren't intended to.

I know how awful it can be since I have experienced it before. There is this belief that when the market pump, the bull run is about to kick off that everyone should make an investment before it's too late. However, in reality, it is not.

However, if someone feels like entering the market (bearish or bullish), they are free to do so since before the bull run ends, they will be able to achieve the desired profits.

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Quote from: Y3shot on June 21, 2023, 07:06:47 AM

What stopped you when the price was low? don't let the sudden increase make you rush into the market- learn to control your emotions.

There is no gain saying why some forks enter the market when the price is already on the high side, and if we must point out one reason for that is for the fact that the don't miss out from the ride even though they already missed out in buying the deep because of the fear of losing.

This action is known to be controlled by fuds and fear and as an investor, if you allow such fear dominate your mind, it will become hard to be able to make the right judgement in your investment analysis since the fuds will control the decisions making processes.

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Honestly this is were most of us miss it, we want to show off to our friends and family that crypto investments are easy by trying to ride the wave and get the fast profits and call it good investments..no this isn't the best strategy and a reason why others call it gambling.

But the right way to do it has always being buy low and sell high and this should be our blueprint, lets buy when everyone is talking about the price fall not when everyone Is talking about the greens then this will also show we are true believers of Bitcoin!!

Quote from: lalabotax on June 22, 2023, 04:58:47 PM

But in reality it's like this. When the market is red and the price is dropping, many people are afraid to enter the market and buy Bitcoin. While actually the price is still low and actually this is one opportunity to collect more Bitcoin at a low price, right?

Maybe we are hypocrites...

Maybe we want it easy...

Maybe talk is cheap and can't walk the talk, and its understandable as most are using hard earned money and not sure of what the future holds for them.

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Quote from: MFahad on June 23, 2023, 02:12:48 PM

This is true that sudden decision is not always right sometimes a sudden decision may results in someone's failure so keeping emotions in control will provide a smooth way of earning.

It is always a failure or mistake especially if we are not good at making a decision. A reason why we should have to pause for a while to think over and over again before deciding what we are going to do next in a particular situation in order to avoid mistakes.

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Entering into market whenever the market is green is not a good decision because people will think that it will be more green in coming days but it goes down so taking step with active mind is necessary. Before going into trading try to learn prior to trading that when you will enter the market and when you have to leave the market because entering time is most necessary thing which every individual cannot predict.

Apparently, there is no perfect time of entry but as we know that it was good to start investing during the market corrections. But some people are preferred to have it started during recovery as their reason is that they won't wait and hold for so long, and they will earn profit quickly. That was the comparison between a patient and an impatient holder - they all have a reason and therefore, buying always depends on us.

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The mindset of most traders is that they think it is too risky to buy when the market is bloody, hence they wait for the market to turn bullish before entry, is risky though but that is where the market gives you the best reward, I love buying when the market is red because I have seen the benefit, you get the best profit in the risk side. Emotion is one problem with traders that loves buying in the green market.

Some traders has experience situation when they buy after a market crash and the market kept on crashing down instead of recovery so some of them have doubts whenever there's a crash. They wait for there to be some confirmation of the market not falling down anymore but they missed the opportunity to buy like some of us did in the last market crash before the sudden rise of the market that saw it trading above $30k.

What traders need to do is to dollar cost average because if they keep been fearful then they can't buy during a crash opportunity and will miss out of future gains. Market crash are opportunity for us to buy Bitcoin at a discount and we need to make the most of those opportunities.

DCA will definitely increase your volume in your portfolio, regardless if you are buying from its high or low price. But if you want to take some high advantage and maximize your purchase, then always enter at a bloody market. Yes the risk is high, that’s why you have to keep your coins for long term hodling. But maybe for those who have fears in entering the market, just settle for DCAing and still keep your investment for long term.

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Quote from: michellee on June 23, 2023, 02:09:31 AM

Those who do not know when to enter the market will miss the best moment to buy at the lowest price. Even if it wasn't the lowest price, maybe they could still get that low price and hold it until the price increases.

When the market is getting a red candle, they can analyze market conditions to find when to enter the market. At least they got into a downside situation where they could buy it at a low price.

But most traders will enter the market when the price starts to move and get a green candle because they think the price will increase greatly in the next minute or hour. So they started buying and holding it.

For beginners, it’s always safe to just follow the basic, buy low and sell high. That way, they will not miss any opportunity while taking advantage when crypto prices are low. As long as they’re here for long term hodling, and just sell when the price is right, then they will always be profitable in the end. However, for experienced traders, buying at a green candle is never bad. They have their own plans towards the market so probably they are good enough already to manage their emotions and hold on to their coins in case these coins have suddenly experience price decline.

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Quote from: Unbunplease on June 23, 2023, 11:13:59 AM

Yes, a green light can mean that it will soon turn red and you will make your investment at the very peak of the price. That's why you should pay as little attention to color as possible to enter the market. More attention should be paid to analyzing where you want to invest. The main thing is to take your time.

Green market attracts more traders and creates extreme levels of greed. But the person who buys at the top can realize how dangerous that green market can be for a trader. The red market actually creates fear among traders and they wait for further downs, as a result of which many times they miss opportunities. Now the rapid dumping seen in the market to liquidate high leveraged positions is really scary. So this is another factor that makes traders emotionally vulnerable.

But traders should take knowledge of the market trend before taking any trade, because if the market trend is strong then the green market can be a good opportunity for the investor. So trading is a profession where emotions have no value, you have to control your emotions and those traders who can do that can stay in the market.

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